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i'm steve clements and i have a question. joe biden. warrens is real that it's losing support. but what role is he actually playing in the war and gaza? let's get to the bottom line. the for months now, the u. s. has provided unwavering support for israel as it proceeds it's war in gaza and vetoed every attempt at a ceasefire. now president joe biden says it is real, is losing support over its indiscriminate bombing of gaza. more than 18000 palestinians have been killed by israel since october 7th, mostly women and children, mostly crushed in apartment buildings after hamas attack. when 1200 is really soldiers and civilians were killed, is really leaders still say they want to decimate the stomach resistance movement. how mos retrieve $100.00 plus captive and stay in gaza indefinitely. but for palestinians, it just seems like the point is to kill more of them, to starve the rest and make me entire gaza strip unlivable. so 10 weeks into this

war with buying and warning is really leaders that they have tough decisions to make. what role is his administration actually playing? today? i'm talking with political sciences. should we tell honey who teaches at the university of maryland? and he's the author of the stakes america and the middle east shipley. thank you so much for joining us. let me just start out and ask you, how are american stakes in the middle east doing right now, as it seems unable to affect israel's course in this war. a good to see you, steve, and thanks for hosting me. look, it doesn't look very good for american interest. i have always believed that from the 1st moment um, uh, after the how much the attack or risk commerce attack on israel. the president did well in showing empathy with these realize at the moment of our ability, every president would have done that. but since then, he has taken decisions that were based on personal belief,

personal preferences, personal emotions that were not necessarily driven by a considered assessment of american interest that are a stick and they're a huge american interest that are a stake. um, for one thing, when you implicated the world this or meaning world disorder or almost every human rights organization was a push called the ham asset tax war cries, but has called these really actions in gaza work crimes. and even worse, and some people with speculating about a possible genocide when you have that kind of mass destruction and killing and dest and ruin, and you were implicated. and that in the sense that you're giving a, you know, a blank check support, including your own weapons being delivered even with the emergency moves to bypass congress to, to deliver that. you were implicated,

you are implicated when you v 2 wing is each bar at the you one. so you are seen to be bought of the war. and i have always worried that this particular, the scale of destruction and devastation on tomorrow is such that this is going to be printed on the consciousness of an entire generation. certainly in the middle east of ads and muslims, but really beyond even young people. beyond that and that, that kind of results often and a blow back in the back of course will be not just on the israel, but in this particular case on the us, which would be unfortunate and holistic, obviously down the road potentially. so that's one. the 2nd thing that i've worried about from day one is that the presidents commitment without again thinking about it or even having, remember the person went to his real, he had, he even met with. and he's really war cabinet meeting. there is no evidence that the president has convened an inner agency process to consider the implications of

his decision or to support the aim of destroy him. us. whatever that mean vague as it is, even though most of us understood that such a decision on that scale was going to lead to devastation, to structure on the scale that we're witnessing. maybe just drawing all of gaza. and how would we be, be prepared to pay the price is not just morally but in terms of violation of international law. and would we be preferred for the possible escalation that will come out of it? meaning a drawing party is like his blood drawing parties and now we see the how many who these bronc part is in the rock, syria, and potentially even drawing iran in, in a way that engages that us the presence sent to korea groups very quickly. i don't know that there was any evidence you should process to consider the consequences for escalation. so in that sense, the present seemed to allow his own personal preferences to drive

decisions that i've had grieve, consequences for america's national interest. and this is not over. it's not just about the possible blowback, which would be unfortunate, but it's also about the possible escalation, which i do not rule out at this point. kimberly, you're saying something different. you said that joe biden shot from the hip from is got and he did this personally. so my question is, this is a guy who was chair of the council of the, the senate foreign relations committee for years was vice president handled many foreign policy issues. is he showing at this moment and a, an incompetence and foreign policy that surprises you the well, i don't know better than compet those, but certainly a insensitivity or lack of deep understanding or lead. i don't know if he has a blind spot on this issue. you and i have known him, i have known him when he was center and at various periods,

particularly 19 ninety's. i respected him as somebody who was thoughtful and yes, he was a realist. uh but i, i had, you know, um, considered him to be one of the people are knowledgeable about foreign policy. i testified before one of these committees i, i met with him when he was vice president to talk about this particular issue in a small group. and so i, i, you know, i, i thought i knew him before. she was pros real, but honestly, every present of the united states is pro, is real. and he of course, was perhaps more certainly more than obama. we know that i'm, i'm finishing up the book with a few colleagues about the obama and trump and bite and presidencies. and we know that even in the obama administration who was taking more pros, real positions. but this shocked me. yes. it shocked me because he's in the number one, you know, we all understood that he was a realist, but we also, it says he was a compassionate, realized that he, he was a man who can convey empathy. obviously he conveyed a lot of episode with israel is,

and these relays reward him for it and understand them, including people who didn't like him, or people who prefer a truck or him. but his inability to show even, you know, the empathy for what was obviously risk devastation, the policies shocked me. yes. i think it shocked me. that's number one, but he's an inability to separate his own personal feeling to think that he was, he knew exactly what he needed to do and he was just going to bring everybody on board. and he was insensitive even to advice from within the state department within the white house that went to the country. you knew at all. we knew he had this a kind of a posture which she thinks she knows better than his uh, the people he is discussing every issue with, but not on the on something that matters deeply to the interest of the united states. i think he miscalculated. he turn out to not have thought about this

carefully and now he's having to deal with the consequences. let me ask you about american leverage right now. national security advisor jake sullivan, is in tel aviv. i don't know what he's doing, but there is this sense that all of us are watching helpless. what is now happening inside palestine, and there seems to be no line that will trigger the involvement of of at least others so far. what are, what, what's going on here? well, 1st of all, the, remember, the present of the united states has not said we're going to stop support if you, if you don't do x, y, z the, the warning quote, the warning. and i use that in quotation because i'm not sure what the warning means is, is you're gonna, you're losing support of the rest of the international community over the quote, the indiscriminate attacks in the gaza. hello. i mean, you know, this is what we've been more than 2 months space and you already have it. that's basic. there's already way of course,

it's happened. he's telling people the obvious and people are rewarding. oh, you know this. he has, you know, as long as look from, from nothing you know, it's point of view and the far right of administered his government or really these really government probably. um, you know, they, they could care less about the general assembly going to go for a ceasefire. or the 13 members who voted in the, in the security council in favor of a fee. so as long as the us is going to employ the veto, as long as the, the, the, what the suppliers will go unconditionally to is realize less. the funds from congress will, will keep coming. and they can, they can live with the rest of it. it doesn't matter what are they protected and so, and there was nothing at all in the posture that biden has taken privately publicly . that indicates that any of this is in jeopardy and you know, that, you know, his problem was from day one. so saying that is real, has the right to defend itself. of course it does what state does not have the

right to defend itself. every state has the right to defend itself, but obviously the number one, even if it under normal circumstances when, when there is such a hardening of the hearts and devastation, destruction on your own side. when you demonize the other, you are a strain anyway, but when you consider that he knew from day one, he has even, well, these really good them. at the most extreme that do you have members of these? israel governments want far more than self defense and they want aims that were at odds with america's interest that were at odds with american values. and you give them unrestrained, of free hand to do what they want with american weapons. that's irresponsible in all honesty shipley. i want to play a bit from a speech by the national security council spokesman john kirby, who spoke to georgetown university students earlier this year. this work it in

today right now. if mr. prove, just do the right thing and pull his troops out. obviously that doesn't appear to be anywhere near happening. he continues to fly around and drones and cruise missiles into civilian infrastructure, knocking out that he knocking out the power mean, or your family's without heat or power at least. yeah. yeah. and um and uh, and hitting quite literally innocent civilian targets, playground, schools, hospitals. and it's, it's, it's under depravity. it is an airy in calculation of a different war, a different time, a different set of adversaries. um, but if you think about it, and i would just ask you this because this is what the prime minister netanyahu and others have been saying. how moss is how mosse could end this by laying down its arm to leave. but my question is, what incentive would come us have to lay down his arms tomorrow? well, let, let's put this aside for a minute. i want to address particularly,

or is the clip itself about refrain? um, i think the president, for example, took the right decision to support your brain after the russian invasion. i supported that. in fact, i woke up one morning and you know me, i write more about the middle east, the new queen. although i follow that issue as well, i found myself putting the sanctioned list on that issue. but when the president asserted the support for your queen and galvanized european supporting international support was in the name of defending a you know, a liberal, international order. right. and the rules based international order, those are the 2 principal, but he laid out as the core of his foreign policy. and obviously in addition to something that he came up with early back in countering trump about human rights as a priority. and so, you know, when you're looking at this and you saying he just veto the resolution quote for

a humanitarian c spy, it wasn't even an editing of the fighting or the war humanitarians he's by which every organization, every 8 organization says you cannot provide the needed humanitarian support, now with given the devastation, without a seatbar and the entire world community supports it and you goes against it and he's got to defend the internationally. so the double standards are, are, and you saw this the clip which obviously emphasizes with the premiums, but obviously you have not seen early on anything resembling that from the president or his white house spokesman in terms of initially the postings. now with regard to how mass, yes, i mean we could, we could talk about what the aims of how mouse are, and i think people don't understand the, the game of course is you could look at how may i ask, but how much is playing to an audience or so they might have the own ams, it might be extreme, is, is beyond what,

what might be acceptable as piece for sure. but they are planning to pull a student in community, obviously before they have to come in the morning before him asset that it's not like there was peace justice, you know, and hope in, in israel post done, particularly among the palestinians. whether they are in in garza or the west bank and it was impacting our hopelessness. i was there in israel and the westbank it just uh, 3 days before. uh the, the how much that tax and, and it was just to honor hopelessness. and yeah, we've, i've written, i'm always not the only one i've written last spring in april saying that there's going to be an explosion on a scale we have never seen before. i even use the term something we have noticed. you pay the bill, but you can feel the hopelessness was gonna was gonna lead to a interest. yes. and so the, yeah, exactly. i mean, the point of it is that it's not what we expected, but how much exactly was going to do, of course,

but we didn't even know that the capability to do what it did as well as didn't know it, had that capable of do what it is but given what happened and when you look at the scale of devastation and there was the initial bite and administration inclination. i met with members of administration during that but was, and now people will just blame him at us because of the hard that they did. and we had galvanized everybody else. majority pulse stands, majority of the apps or against him as i am, sorry, that is such a not even approach. and by the way, i use that term with administration. i do think that when you're just like israel is witnessing the heart of that, how much committed are they going to say all we're going to blame ourselves for it rather than blame the people who are actually doing the shooting. and so, of course, a lot of the sympathy went in directly to have mass. and now of course, what do you have? the hundreds of thousands of new refugees who lost homes of loved ones and

witnessed her and fear and hunger. and he's not going to be recruits, even if you eliminate him as, as we have known it, will there not be a replacement for him as it comes? and this was predictable. most of us wrote about it from day one. it's not like this is a we, we know how was the part of this is not a particularly extraordinary where it is in terms of the scale right now. we know how human beings operate under such conditions. that's why somebody has seasoned as bite. right? it is utterly surprising that he wasn't comfortable with. i want to get back to this notion of the united states element of complicity in this moment. america has points have been full of leverage. it's just not using them a no doubt on the question, but i mean, i think that's a silly move in for anybody who follows this. so that's why the rest of the world

sort of laughs up. they say, well, you did the judging. it's not. but why we, we say, but what we do, we know what we do automatically, no matter what our position is publicly. but the president, as you, as you said, is changing his public discourse a little bit. what people are going for, warning, obviously there's a change in the movement. there's a, there's a concern, and it's driven by 2 things that i gotta tell you that, uh, you know, biden is sensitive to, i think, a miscalculate. he miscalculated the extent to which there would be such a push back against the west. it would undermine america, standing as one administration of official thing were taking a lot of water on board. but the 2nd thing is this political calculus whose instinct was the more you supporters of the better political you are, she has not come to grips with the ships that have taken place, particularly within the democratic body. you can see, you know, in the latest gallup full, 2 thirds of democrats, democrats, disapprove,

of these really military reactions in gaza. majority of americans want issues barking garza and he finds himself dropping into. ready a lot of the drop is coming, disapproval is coming from his own democratic constituency. any way that is given his opponent, donald trump, an edge, and he's reading the full and a lot of people. democrats in congress, and many of them i've spoken with are very concerned about his bus. sure, because they could all go down with him. and so now he's not only facing potential consequences for american interest globally, but he's also facing potential electric consequences for him in 2024. what do you think the failure to have leverage over israel in this moment is going to do with the day after equations are the policies and people going to trust united state. it's as one of the arbiters uh, you know, in some form of govern governance formula in the future,

or have we taken ourselves out of that in their eyes. and what happens with this 75 year containment strategy. that is large, we've been, you know, the whole palestinians in place is, is that just going to continue to convulse at this point? how do you see the future? so let me, let me make 2 points on that. number one, i think it's, uh, i don't even talk about the day after i don't really know is the what the day after is we're still in, in today and today is horrible and there's no end in sight. and there's a lot of suffering. and we really all efforts have to be going into, let's stop this killing. i mean that is just not something that we should put up with and, and, and i don't know what will be left of gaza. i mean, just the picture showing you know, 50 percent of the buildings in, in north because it had been destroyed, damage you talking about 80 percent of guidance have been rendered a homeless. i mean that this just an astonishing number. even aside from the

$70000.00, were reported debt and, and one did already and on more to come. so i, i think we need to focus on the moment in many ways i find the discussion of the day quote, the day after is distracting and, and kind of almost a smoke screen to hide the reality that we now must put all our focus on. but in terms of the trust of the us, when there might be a diplomatic opportunity, i agree with him. for one thing, people didn't trust joe biden in the middle east. certainly palestinians, long before october 7th, but now obviously completely do not have any face. and then what does that mean? it means that there is no plan that the united states could put on the table that will be believed or accepted for at face value. so the real issue then, when diplomacy, when there was an opening for diplomacy, it will be can the united states do something. and if that rather than promise

something, people want to see action today, rather a promise for an action tomorrow, because no one is going to believe the promise. that's where the effort has to go with taking concrete steps that the us can do today. and now that contrast form the reality in israel palestine that's a, i don't see anything and joe biden's resume that says he's capable of doing that journey scenario. where you see these 2 societies able to reside next to each other without being completely driven by hate on both sides. you know, i'm a student, a war of course floors and, and people do fine. sometimes it pass to reconciliation during war's hearts harden . you only focus on what the other side does do the haro that you face the loved ones that you lose your, your fear of exist for your own existence, you know, and you then start demonizing the other. uh, you know,

what is the term demonizing to look into them? is that demon and henry thinking that everything against them works? well, we know that this is not, you know, unusual, but then there are moments where they come together. the question is, is there a path, right? we know that there could be, there is no way that we are going to avoid this hatred and recycled the violence on a lower scale until there is an equitable outcome for the israelis and palestinians to live together with equal dignity and, and uh uh, to uh, self determination and freedom. uh you cannot have what now exist on just reality that exist right. uh and not expect more and more violence and hate. well, we'll leave it. they are university of maryland professor ship retail. jaime, thank you so much for your calendar. and for being with us today. my pleasure. so

what's the bottom line? joe biden now says israel will lose international support if it keeps killing innocent people indiscriminately. he and secretary of state anthony blinking and national security advisor jake sullivan, keeps saying that pushing is realized to be far more cautious in their campaign. that is best bar killed, more than 18000 palestinians, and yet find it keeps green light in bond deliveries to israel. america has leverage in this conflict and could do much to bring it to a cease fire and work from that moment to try to rebuild some kind of equilibrium between israelis and palestinians. but as long as the white house pretends to be pathetically difference in this carnage is likely to continue, and the risk of escalation remain ever present. that's what failing to use power when you have, it looks like. and that's the bottom line. the

church solutions gives us no hope for future that we have to find creative solutions. not just turn our backs on the don't think that has a number. think about it as a person, person yourself, and that person's shoes. so as you can see for this is my us, my life, or at least in my life and all the stages we want we want to break because the women and my country deadlocks. we want we are not and neither ology, we are human beings and deserves to be treated in the chloe we are working in the footsteps. our officers claim that has been done before can be done as long as a human being is doing it. you just have to keep pushing because no one else can see the vision. this kid in australia

indigenous with the missing the disproportionate to the high rates. 101 east investigate. you said nothing done to help find missing originally on out. does he have a it is a tenant to produce objectives these coverage. many parts of is really media are effectively engaging in propaganda or genocide. what these really military was telling us does not fit in with what evidence they have so far. and yet, on the fringes of his randy, public discourse, anti war voices persist, sales calling the traitors. the listening post covers how the news is come to watch this space for where the story goes. next expo 2023 of world destination

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