of consequences of the region and the world. a quizzical look at us politics, the bottom line, the well joe biden and donald trump faced each other in the us election in november. the current and former president swept the poles in super tuesdays both. now they hope to get that parties nominations, but was on american both as priority. is this time around? this is inside story, the hello. welcome to the program. i'm adrian instead of getting a re match between us president joe, by the end of the full up president donald trump, now seems almost certain both swept to impressive victories on super tuesday when

primaries were held in moving to 1000 states. but despite strong showings, both candidates face challenges and rallying the base. some republicans unexcused he asked about another trump run for the presidency. and fighting has opponents in his comp to oppose his support as well as war on guns. so we'll go to our panel in just a moment, but 1st a report from sent in by as they call it super tuesday. for a reason, donald trump cements to the place of the republican challenger for the us presidency in november with the result wanting primary victories and 12 more states . his lead is now virtually unassailable. we did a window selection because we have no choice. if we lose the election, we're not going to have a frontier exit polls to jeff trump. schools for tougher immigration policies have resonated with many republican voters. but despite his strong showing, he still vulnerable trump has been charged with nearly a 100 offenses in several criminal cases that could complicate his run for the

presidency. nikki haley, his last remaining republican opponent now was nearly no chance of winning bus or double digit support. in many states, just a portion of republican voters aren't enthusiastic about another. trump run for the white house just between donald trump in the back with the interaction kind of what happened and i felt more comfortable with that and basically it kind of approaches valley oh, i'm terribly frustrated with this country. i mean, the fact that we have biden in trump to choose from. it's disgraceful. it is disgraceful. we don't need to oxygen ariens and office running for offers. there's plenty of other people who were earlier in their careers who could run and do a better job than those to us present job. i'm also slipped to victory in the democratic primary races, but he to face his challenges by and support for israel as for on gaza,

as opposed by some democratic voters. he ran on oppose in many states, but some democrats registered that disapproval by voting non committed. who do not committed means that the democratic party has to change. they have to take in the voters preference on the topic. i've got the completely so far. so this is the only tools i have to pressure them. that's super tuesday is open ensured another showdown between biden and trump in november. but while both may have their parties nomination in the back, it's not clear whether they have the full support of their parties, voters since monahan al jazeera for inside story. the, well, we're fortunate enough to have with, as a panel of experts that reflects diverse opinions across the us political spectrum from washington dc. the well known post a james song b because also president of the, our american institute from building some vermont arshad. how sign is

a democratic policy, political strategist, and co founder of convey communications, a film that aims to support emerging progressive leaders, and also in the us capital retail shop is a conservative political advisor and republican opposed to donald trump's leadership. welcome to you all, james. it wasn't the decisive day that it can be and has been, has super tuesday ever mounted. bless somebody, we knew more or less before tuesday, but it's going to be a binding. trump pretty much in november, didn't we? and yeah, it certainly was. and this is not the super tuesday, i recall from the eighty's when jackson swept or is it from the ninety's or any other super tuesday it, it was a expected turn out was very low, which i think is of concern to both candidates in both parties and there certainly are concerns for, for, for biden, with the low turnout, the lack of enthusiasm. and for trump,

on the fact that he has consolidated the support among all republicans. this is going to be a fascinating election because the stakes are so high, but most voters are not pleased with the candidates who are carrying the banner on either side. it's an armageddon election. people are going into a battle the end of the world. if the other side wins, but they're not happy with the standard, they're on their side. i should, could bivens, best time to look at it as well as warn, gotten most of the election in november. it's the question that he does need to ask himself, he needs to figure out how to get good with his base. and it's not just because you know the bases and have anywhere else to go. this uncommitted campaign is to put the bite and campaign on notice in michigan. and now in minnesota, we've got a substantial vote. no, no, they didn't vote for any of the other options on the ballot. they're telling biting to get good with the base. and i think that's important or bases young people,

people of color, we want to send a message and this is how they've done it. rena nikki haley is campaign is over. she denied trump a clean sweep on tuesday, but there was little point in her carry on. was that? why did she failed to connect with the republican votes as always, the trump junction, or just just too big into a powerful to stop? it's a little bit more of the latter. there was a great deal of connection between nikki haley and i would say a health. ready swath of today's republican party, if anything, we learned from super tuesday. what was that? basically the republican party is not as unified as the former president. trump goes out there saying almost daily. he and his team understand that they have a bit of an up to bottle ahead of them. they won't, of course, make this concession in public. his victory speech last night sounded very much like the trump. we've always known the one who had that 4 year term in the white

house and who he's been as a private citizen of the year since he was denied the 2nd term. what we know now though, is that 30 to 40 percent of republican voters and primary did reject trump, and that is again, a real problem for trumps that they're gonna have to solve for that as they move forward. nikki haley basically did not pick up the delegate math in order to close the gap between her and trump. her goal on super tuesday was fairly just to be competitive, and so to stutter her campaign. certainly, it's not a surprise, but the moment really demands the republican party look in word and figure out how it's going to move forward with a nominee that is deeply unpopular and who has some serious warning signs, blurring him in the face. he has weaknesses in more moderate and fluent areas like the northern virginia suburbs, for example. this is not an easy challenge that he will solve overnight. i'm not even sure that he will solve it before november, because what will be in the general election will be that real weakness again,

rear its head for trump and or whoever the republican nominee is. i actually tend to believe that there may be a brokerage convention this summer. james dear to agree with that with a warning science for trump and last night is putting numbers nikki haley was able to make games against trump in areas dominated by white votes. as with college degrees, this is a call us divide among g o, p votes is called the trunk, the b u, i keep hearing that the same polls that show state by state 3040 percent voting against trump show nationally, trump beating biden by 56 points. there is a consolidation when given the choice trunk vs and i think that at our callback 2016 there also was talk of a brokered convention party establishment has never wanted donald trump, but he's found a way to insight uh enough voters. and i mean, insight, i mean he,

his message is frighteningly a reminiscent of all the kings man and the kind of of almost pro fascist leadership that has found people with desperate need social dislocation, political this location, a sense of all is lost and i am going to save you and that has grabbed so many people so hard that his, his situation is i think, very difficult to turn around. i don't think that republicans can dislodge donald trump without to leave destroying their party, which is already destroyed. it's the donald trump party. so i think, yeah that there's top, i know that there are a lot of republicans who would like to see a the republican party of old doesn't exist anymore. it's the donald trump party. and that's what we're going to have in november as the donald trump party versus the the joe biden party. and people are going to be happy with it. but that's the choice we've got. and it's a, i think more to the point here of what we learned,

the minnesota vote, the north carolina vote, the uncommitted, and the no preference was much higher than anyone expected. i think joe biden has a problem closing the deal with his base, and it's not that they will vote against him at all. it's that they probably won't vote at all and you cannot win as a democrat unless you consolidate a much high or percentage of the black vote. latino vote ation vote and use vote. then jo biden's been able to, to do, as i said, this is an election. the stakes are really high, but the turn out will be suppressed because democrats and republicans and independents aren't happy with the choices that they've got. i want to come back to the uncommitted in just a few minutes, but to but i showed you what you were to pick up on what james was, was saying that particularly how donald trump has managed to appeal to so many blue collar workers in the united states who would traditionally have voted democrats as well. let me correct that real quick. when we talk about blue color,

if we're talking about lower income folks, people who are where he can wage jobs, he only picks up white blue collar workers. he does not pick up blue collar workers of color, and that's not an, that's not a a difference without, without a distinction here. when it comes to incomes under $50000.00. donald trump doesn't have a lot on any of that. and this is where to abide in does need to do some work here that basic people who may be building uncommitted the basic people who are progressive and have progress academic economic ideas. these are people that joe biden can pick up if he inspires the democratic base, which is to say young people, people of color, this is and these uncommitted votes. these are warning signs that he needs to come back to the base. and again, i don't mean some kind of left wing politics that cause a ceasefire among the democratic party and among the country is more popular than it is in, for example, in congress. so this is,

these are popular ideas that job i didn't come back to you now and remember this is fixable and this is a message to divide in to come back and fix this. read out. do you agree with what james was saying? that about be the public about it, no longer being the republican party, it's that, that's the trump body. how do you explain the hold? the trump has over the policy and it's versus most of its focus. we don't know exactly how to split hairs here to understand what's at play and, and it's that we have an incumbent right now present bite in who has some really fi and favorable. you know, for example, i, myself was a crossover voter in 2020 having voted for the 1st time for a democrat for president. and i crossed over again a little. i was a lifelong republican. i voted, provided i did not expect that he would run for another term and i'm deeply frustrated by that and, and i, i think it's a bad move for him. i wish he had actually decided not to run for reelection and gone ahead and top somebody else. so what we're seeing right now is

a lot of the electric feeling like how are we seeing a bite in trump rematch? and that's where that's an entry way for trump every time that biden is out there in the public, i being scrutinized for his lack of cognitive ability. again, something that has been a hotly debated and then also, you know, what you're really seeing in gen z is a frustration again, not by this president, not to pass the baton. it was jonesy who put vitamin harris and the white house. so yes, were inevitably careening towards a bite in trunk, re match the re match that nobody wants. they do believe the to turn out will be surprised. but you have to look at the numbers from last night. again, to see that this republican party is not what it was. 8 years ago, 2016 was a different scenario. 2020 was a different scenario. and now we're in a completely, in a typical scenario. this is we just have nothing in modern history to look at, and i think i'm most struck by the result from vermont last night. we're nikki haley won by about 4 point. there were a couple pools that had from applied 30 and i believe 28 point to be that wrong on

the numbers. i would just caution. so if we learned nothing from 2016, please just do not believe all the polls out there. and this is a problem matic for trump. when you look at numbers across arkansas, massachusetts, excuse me, virginia. you see he was under performing in many places. so this is yes. trump's party, but there are huge problems here. and so while it may not be the party of yesteryear, it's a brand new party that comes with a new set of problems. and one of the biggest ones is how to get the independently minded voters in swing states, how to get suburban college educated women under the tent of republicanism in 2024 . james, would you agree with that? i mean, the other po's not to be believed. you know, it's a, it's part of what i do and i think my brother a very clearly with the, with also disagree. he just the domestic polling. i just the middle east calling,

but the polls are showing both candidates have problems to be sure. the composer also showing that donald trump is leading in nationwide pulling net, vermont. yeah, look at that. i think let's be clear here. mickey healey wins vermont. and nicky healey wins d c. guess what? they don't matter. they're both totally blue states and they're always going to be blue states in the foreseeable future. it's the, it's the bernie sanders state. it's the 96 percent democrats state in, in, in washington dc. nikki haley. winds them because they never would vote for trump anyway. the real point is that if you look at the national polling and you look at the, the, the series of national pulling that's going on now for, for months now, across the board. the donald trump is consolidated to port him on the republican party. not just consolidated support, but he's also consolidated a view of these are the republicans who still think brock obama wasn't. most of

these are the republicans. we still think brock o'bonham wasn't born here. these are republicans who in 7080 percent believe that joe biden is not a legitimate president. this is a problem in the republican party. and donald trump has caught hold of this mindset and defined it and defined himself as the savior of those who are in need, and they're buying it. and i think, you know, look, i remember the republican party of a ronald reagan, the republican party of a mich oven, mitt romney, the republican party of gerald ford that doesn't exist anymore. it is now the republican party of newt gingrich. and donald trump, it's the republican party of aggressive, partisan hate field politics and, and preaching to a desperate public that is looking for someone to save them because they don't know what's happening. they don't understand the changes that are taking place all

around them. so that's a problem, and donald trump will consolidate that vote as he did in 2016 really be joe biden. i think let's go back to the vitamin side of the. busy lawyer, he has some issues that he has to deal with and ages. certainly one of them does that has become a significant issue, not just because of democratic voters and americans want to cease fire. they want the killing them, but it's 100 represent something far more per deeper, far more serious. and that is the fact that america is out of touch with human suffering in the world. it's out of touch with a value based foreign policy. the values that they want is not, are not the values of let's go beat them and kill them all and, and line them up as winston churchill would have, would have led it back. uh, i have century or more ago it's, it's a values that says we should not be seeing genocide on folding. it's a values that say, we should not be seeing people mode down in the streets. we,

it's a values that says we should not see starving children and do nothing about it, and people are frustrated about that. and so they're voting on on been committed. and i think they'll continue to do that until joe biden, ex, decisively, to change this around. they don't want a war, they don't want to continue and they don't wanna be complicit in it. and i think that the democrats still haven't caught that. so it's a very briefly a up to those uncommitted votes that we saw, both in michigan and then again on tuesday bite. and as yet to read the room. i think he hasn't read the room at that. i wrote an article about that and i think he clearly hasn't. and i think nikki haley, i'm sorry, the vice president, the counselor harris was sent out to deliver a message like that. but i'm feeling that i'm seeing it. but was a message that resonated with people, but it didn't translate to a policy change. they're still not calling for

a permanent ceasefire. they're still not calling for an end to our complicity in terms of weapons supplies. they're not limiting. look, ronald reagan, i'm a democrat, i never thought i would suggest to suggest that a democrat do a ronald reagan did, but in 1982 he told bacon stop. he said this looks like a holocaust and people are seeing it. he suspended cluster bouncy suspended f sixteens and begging stuff. joe biden has to do at least that much showed how, how does the president then navigate that this, this growing abandon byline campaign standing from his hesitancy to go for as far as well as one goes into a dozen and to a, to what extent to, to to vote is particularly younger and of arab americans feel that finding has betrayed them. i do want to respond real quick to this, james and rina. i talking about my home state, vermont, or i thought i was not surprised that nicky healey got such a huge portion of our boat. vermont isn't the bernie sandra state that you think it

is? we have a republican governor. we've re elected numerous times is actually when most popular governors in the state there is maybe not, there's not a whole lot. there are opportunities for republicans to get votes out of even places like for my, for full of crossover motors. the republican party, though, is chosen not to when you take a look at states like north carolina and virginia, then nicky healey voters who came out according to actually pulling 2 thirds of them in both states. and these are swing states so that they wouldn't vote for donald trump if he was a nominee at james's right. and, and ran to, to about this idea that republicans have chosen to go in the direction that closes them off. that actually narrows their prospects. there are voters to win in north carolina in virginia. it's even in vermont if republicans get a band in this racist sina phobic base that they've double down to and that they've

incited. so on that side, this is a problem for trump. you can't win with the increasingly small base like that. that's an opportunity, of course, for joe biden, for joe biden. as i mentioned before, there are the ball as in his court. there are solutions. i think the comm layers is comments is a start that not just a comment the declaration that we should, we are also asking for a ceasefire. i think that that should be just the beginning to be the same as when the stakes are so high. what, what's taking him so long and the 6 are so high, and so many domestic issues as well. in the united states, abortion, he writes that the progress that we have made in the last great many years is, is under threat from the supreme court, from republicans in congress. right now, july. and in terms of keeping his base is relying on a number of other domestic issues, 12 economic issues to keep the base of line this growing uncommitted vote. i think

it takes a lot of establishment democrats by surprise. and these votes, these campaigns are really doing. i believe a good job sending a message maybe even then nerving the bite and campaign to say, hold on a 2nd. you can just take the base for granted just because there's other issues like abortion get riots, etc. we have to come back to this issue and this isn't a bad issue for me to come back to. most of americans also supporting the ceasefire . right? or do you want to come back on that? i'd also want to put a question to you about about the age of both kinds of it said the president was 81 donald trump, 77. you can see why younger voters aren't particularly confused about the choice in the election if they stayed away in november. who would have most to lose trump or by a this isn't about ages um and i, i frequently hear that its agents to criticize the ages of both these, these candidates. and i just think that's absolute malarkey. when you look at,

at the retirement age, being anywhere between $61.67 brought in states coast to coast. you wonder what these 2 guys are doing, running to be the top leader of our land. are they even in touch with what regular every day americans are facing? you know, both of them are grandfathers. they have grandchildren, who's futures depend on leaders who understand the biggest issues of the day, which are things like cyber security, you know, look at the southern border, did trump, he didn't even finish the wall. forget that he goes out on the trail lying about that daily thing that he fixed the crisis when he was in office, the wall was never finished, but he never even deployed sophisticated, innovative techniques that would've help keep our border secure. so we see a crisis, and i think the real frustration for me right now is the fact that we have a system, the rewards incumbent sitting in congress as well as makes this presidential primary system. so very unfair and, and coming from a more conservative. right?

leading political ideology, i don't believe in certain tactics to level the playing field. for example, i'm not a quote as the type of person, but what i see when i look around the america i, i'm in today raising very young children in is an inability for me and my generation of millennial to be able to get the dream that my parents had which was to change homes every 58 years of a 2 car garage, 2 story house with a white picket fence or a safe community in which the schools are exceptional. you know, these are the issues that are on the kitchen table. and nikki, here we took them, and she, she even had a lot of head turning of, of liberal women women who were looking at her with a fresh that device saying, hey, you know, some of the stuff she thing is palatable. so what i'm looking and seeing right now is a system that again, it's sort of rig and i'm not, i'm not trying to say it's read aloud trump, but in a way it is look at the state parties, the republican parties are re made in his image his lawyer list have crept into the infrastructure and created carpet systems which would benefit him. so until people

wake up and decide to say, we wanted overturn of citizens united to get big money out of our project. we went term limits. we want to end gerrymandering. these are things that i have talked to younger republicans about and they find palatable, so that the tide is turning. there is a seismic shift, but it seems like some of these meters do not want to pass the baton or leave their secure faith. profitable feats of power in order to make room for the next generation. and it is very, very frustrating. that's why yesterday showed us just how pathetic the electorate is. james. if the election, what tomorrow trump would win. what could change between now and november to prevent that? a couple things. number one i, i think i would agree with the reason that we're not sure until this moment. we're not sure who the candidates will be in november. i'm not, i'm not going to place any bets on that. it looks like trump invited. i think if we're trumping vitamin it'd be a very close contest and it would be down to

a couple of states that are absolutely critical. michigan being one of them, uh, pennsylvania, being another florida in georgia being others. the question is, well joe biden do what he needs to do if he is in fact running against donald trump . bully do what he needs to do to get the uh, the, the uncommitted, uh, those who are disaffected right now from the democratic ticket to come back home. and he has the unique capacity as a democrats to move to get the, the traditional democratic base that is the working class ethnic voters from pennsylvania, michigan, wisconsin states like that, back into the democratic full. he, he is working class g. ready from scranton, that's the persona, and that has been an attractive to people he, he did a capture that vote in 2020 but he could do it again. but you know, this is, this is a situation where i think we don't know,

we don't know who the nominees are going to be, actually because there is an age issue to be sure. there also is uh, you know, donald trump's a little wacky and i something could happen between now and then i don't know. i do, i don't think we're either party is in a position both structurally and in terms of the political process to come up with a, a way of replacing the nominees. uh, it will be a of a voice vote from the floor of a convening of the r n c or the d n c. and then we'll end up being a reminiscent more of the bulgarian communist party. 1955, where everybody's told before they go in who they are voting for. so that could happen. i just don't know, but it isn't worth today between bite and then trump. is it being very close? it would depend on a couple of key states. it would depend upon the extent to which joe biden read the room and was able to bring back disaffected voters, a lot of them disaffected because a guy is that which is, i think, really of, of,

of, of consequence, for those of us from the air community and um, and i think it's, it's going to be something we're going to be holding our breath until we get to november to see what, what, what is out. and i know the shut the and we don't want it to come back in the but we're, i'm sorry where, what are the time many things indeed to all of you for taking part in today's program. james, i'll be i'll shut, assigned and read a shop. thank you for watching. you can see the program again at any time by going to the website which is 0. don't come this way, you'll find it for further discussion. you can join us on our facebook page at facebook dot com forward slash h, a insight story out. of course, you can join the conversation on x a handle the, a page, a inside story from the atrium thinking of the same here. we'll see you again. bye for now. the a business like this, this world to you believe i guess is

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