to the message, they say they're going to carry on the details coverage. these really prime minister spoke this evening saying that the military is ready to invade drop off despite criticisms from allies from the hall. so the story everyone is terrified, seeking shelter in the hospital for more than 6 months. right now, nowhere is place and kind of thing. these are targeted 3 sons, unforgotten children of homeless, politically this month in the assessment, 18 garza, the names added to a long list of people killed by a lady. tall good operation is worldwide. the wind is israel pursues such a policy and what its impact fix is inside story. the

hello welcome to the protocol, is the whole role and the 7 family members of how much politically to as well honey assassinated by israel on wednesday. in garza of the latest the victims of is really targeted killings. israel has been doing this a roundabout for decades. the reputation of its overseas intelligence all most that has become part of his reading, the propaganda in cinema and tv cereals. a license to kill anyone. israel considered as an enemy, the niceties of international law, written old, as all the politics or criminal repercussions of such acts. so is this to take an official policy if it's relevant? so, what's impactful? is it just about vengeance? we'll put that to all guess in a moment. the 1st test report from katya lucas. what diane? it was a target. it is really striking, kansas city that assassinated 3 sons and 4 grandchildren of home us political leader is my, on the. and he says the feelings will simply strengthen palestinian determination,

but we will call the they believe that if they kill recession, a g does all their next to of 10. and we will abandon all people that we will abandon all resistance. they all mistaken this noble blood that is spelled, including my own children will hard now results make us more defiant, more adamant to continue to march on this road. the road of struggle and resistance until we will not freedom and the lawful rights of the palestinian peoples are restored. the attack follows israel's bombing over bands call 2 little building in the syrian capital, damascus that killed several top rainy and officials earlier this month. another suspected as really strong, striking levels. capital back in january killed sally low, rudy. the founder of homos is armed wing palestinian leaders say those killed are quickly replaced the router. you know the, we are our resistance movement and the resistance must be victorious. the

resistance will be victorious for decades. israel has assassinated people in the occupied territories and abroad palestinian leaders and a rainy and scientist among them. according to studies, why is really author ronan bergman? up until 2018. israel assassinated 2700 people worldwide. i and the past leaders who rallied for a 2 state solution have also been targeted, posted in president. yes, it out of died unexpectedly in 2004 and many suspect israel may have been behind his stuff. now, decades later, the warrant also has re ignited pest pensions and field new ones. some believe the is really assassinations of honey. his family were intended to do real negotiations between israel and home. off phoebe and i had a long discussion. us president joe biden is pressuring is really prime minister

benjamin netanyahu to reach a ceasefire. but many now say israel's continued use of assassinations will further risk, the long term prospects of peace in the region. katia, a little bit of the m l g a 0 for insights story. let's bring in august though, until of eve, and i'm a professor of history at x, the university in the u. k. in boston, and i me to the distinguished public policy fellow. there's some products institute at the american university and they wrote a column list and on the list. and in pittsburgh, pennsylvania, calling cloud director of research on the safe, young group, specializing in the future of terrorism, security and trans national crime. very well, welcome to gentleman on this edition of inside story. i even thought they could come to you until the 1st. you know, we've got the facts that israel says that those that were killed yes today. well, how i'm us to risk and collateral damage that the palestinians say they were the

children of the smell, honey, it's all about the narrative. isn't it? the message getting out to the international audience? yes, i think you for having me in your program. yes, i think it is, it is about the narrative and it's also about how detailed it can be. a bottles, he's really not active. i don't know if this came out in english, but definitely in hebrew. ready this was a decision taken by very junior officer who took that decision in a blink of a moment because of the intelligence that he received, which i think is a lot, i think is what i knew exactly who they thought that that they knew these were the uh the, the sense of is waiting on. yeah. i do think also that they knew that they were great and showed in there but didn't care and therefore it's, it's not just

a mentor of one that they've against the other. it's really a fabricated kind of an explanation for something that you know the picture themselves tell the story then. ready the clear way, but i do agree if i may just add something, a little bit might be an immediate reason for this is as you or rebuilt it. as many mentioned, you know that i need a new one to this app in order to do that. ready and then it goes yes, which is definitely a feasible and probable explanation. once you remember the design is moving even before the creation of the state of is targeted by listing and for disability culture leads out of this kind of oriented is believe that if you hit the leads or the leaderships, you have an easier way of or easier time, you know, pressing and repressing the people you want to call the lies as the glands or,

or in prison in big good prisons as they did in the west bank and the gaza strip chance. i think there's also an historical structure here and probably also more immediate reasons and i'm sure we'll talk about them in midland. we will then we won't pick say, since we go along hopefully quite deeply. i just want you to run me curry about this because the impact of such an assassination, however, you want to describe it, assassination, talk to the killing. it, it has an impact, it surprises and it shocks, that's what is right. these ones, it's what the reaction might be from the palestinians in the short time of the long term to this. as well as he is rarely have shown clearly since the priest items are in those days, really the last century. they're very good. a chilling palestinians and they're very good, an ethnic cleansing expanding colonial settlement and controlling western ontario power. so helping them set up their shuttle and calling them apart. i'd say they're

not very good understanding the realities of how people in palestine are. countries actually behave as human beings. and they've actually exactly the same as jewels on his rarely behavior. but if you're subjugated or tortured, or a deported or humiliated, you react with the resistance, you fight back, you may not fight back immediately about you fight back the, the whole growth of mass as well now and sort a lot of them and others. this phenomenon of the last 40 years has profoundly changed the landscape of the air is really conflict on the regional cit, the picture, and these are, these are the americans with, i think, don't understand that these people are willing to afford. they know they're gonna make a chill. they don't shy from taking actions or making statements against israel and the israelis just keep practicing this policy of trying to kill leaders

without any real impact. because they already have asked the hezbollah and the others are prepared for this. i'm, there are lines of successions that are very, very clear. and so this isn't a real problem, certainly is rarely is how, how to come up with a better policy. the found one that they continue to use now, and we'll talk about those lines of succession as well in the product i'm calling. if i can see you in pittsburgh, i mean talk to killings are justifiable from the is really point to view that we go for decades, not just in the occupied territories of so as a report did say, but why has this specific is really policy that's been beneath quite a long time is very evident. some of us allowed to continue in the international domain without any will be a sanction from the us, from europe in general. yeah. well, i mean, it would be difficult for the united states, the same, much credibly given the way the united states has. uh, you know,

engaged in the global war and terrorism. i think, you know, basically setting a precedent for target assassinations of terrace without due process without trial . yeah. but this goes far beyond the united states. this is something that the, as rarely as have talented as an effective counterterrorism tool. there's been many books of course, many studies written on, you know, target assassinations as a counterterrorism policy and, and so what we haven't seen is targeted assassinations bring success. often it's the opposite, the removing leaders and in the process up to the ranks come even more battle hardened more extreme leaders. they're eliminating people that they could probably do business with. i'd suggest looking at the case of northern ireland where, you know, jerry adams and martin mcguinness were labeled terrace by the british. but ultimately, those are the people that deliberate piece in dates around the corner. let me bring

you in again with, with call in here. so that if russia does this, we've seen this quite openly in the last few years, such as the poisoning of live and young, 22006, it's good by a. so guy scripling, 2010, george mach of the, the very famous poisoned umbrella incident in 1978 on waterloo bridge. there's a lot more as well that was sanctions google on russia. call in israel, does it in the day of self defense or post holocaust revenge alt arisen that will bucks an island? so yeah, so this is something that the united states as, as failed consistently to bring pressure on use. rarely as uh you know, with regard to the way they conduct counterterrorism, the binding administration is probably brought in more pressure then, then some previous administrations. but even there and especially in election year, you're reaching kind of the maximum amount of pressure you're likely to see. i think the by the ministration is mishandled. this conflict in many ways. but there's a big growing invest between buy that yahoo and it's one that's likely to get worse

before it gets better. right. because i bring it in on that. yeah, sure. but then there's a kind of standard, the double standard or hypocrisy or imperial behavior of the big powers. the use of british american russians all over the world. they're allowed to break the law. they're allowed to kill with a band them. but other people cannot do that and must be held accountable in front of some kind of court or possibly sanction. this is how imperialism works. and this is what designed to successfully apply it on the starting and you know, 1910 or so they got the british, the power of the day to support them and creating a jewish homeland. and this is really state and allow that was 93 percent power steering in our of and then the americans, after world war 2 became the big imperial western power. and that's where israel, his focus is lobbying and pressure. they still haven't met. israel still has immense pressure upon the white house, much of congress and some state legislatures in the us and every other dimension of

american politics. the ability of israel to expect complete support has, has afraid badly n, as in frank quickly. and campuses, and labor unions and media, all kinds of the churches, other institutions. but you still have the white house, pretty much giving israel everything is lost even though as college said, there is no verbal. a scold is about the variables folding from the white house is paired with a mass of new weapons transfers and financial aid and no real diplomatic pressure at all. so we have people that what they do, what the americans do is basically say, keep killing. so we're going to be with you a lot and papa and tell him you've come out, just get your opinion on. certainly what balances we've just had. but about this policy of targeted killing. i mean through the yes and the decades since the

establishment of israel, the narrative of how you describe in is royal palestinians or arabs must have changed. especially when we have incidents such as the oslo accords peace with egypt. you know, not everybody was the end to be now, how is it perceived? yeah, if it's a little uh, it gets to agree with the the other 2 guest i've just finished the book. good loving force and he's in the on both sides of the atlantic and he's very clear that both in griffin and in the united states the low b as of the. ready and 100 years old and therefore works by initiate. there's no need to tell by didn't what to say when it comes to. and not scolding isn't for it's a policy of kelly. and therefore that it will take quite a while before this kind of impact on the american political decision making will change. although as, as i think around me, mention the civil society is or the change and therefore i think we should be more

optimistic about future changes in the american policy, but not in the immediate future. now uh for your question, i do see that the exception is the deal. money zation of the palestinians. i'm sorry the room, the room is the the one who's ation of the palestinians. ready the exceptions of the moments where you get the impression that may be a police thing is treated in a different way. but i think all in old, in the 100 when to use of the presence of values of historical satisfied by this thing is what do you in the eyes and do you really zation is a very important part of a set of colonial projects such as that isn't because set of colonial projects are projects of displacement and replacement. then you cannot massively ethnically cleanse people or genocide them as you do. now, if you don't do human eyes then and then what that means is not only man targeted but also. ready bees and then women and, and this was a,

the kind of these really major perception of palestine is now in moments such as the one that unfolded after the service of october. this kind of deal when he's a single. ready takes a given the more extreme form in the way the people allow themselves to say things of a general side. ready nature that may be added during. ready or relaxed, or com periods that they are hiding. but i seen on an old in order to implement the idea that started by this time should be a jury stage. you have to be human eyes, the native indigenous people of palestine. otherwise, a more of a basis of the whole project would have been exposed and, and i think. ready and these really educational system, the culture system, the socialization processes in these really early all kind of create one called the bread. ready of the. ready other, and i'm afraid would continue to see the but as being is as sub humans as

contention that or is it, let me just get in there as well. everything that comes in the direction. yeah, we want to balance and we want about the conversation around because, you know, again, as you say, it comes rounds, the whole issue of silencing your critics calling clock in pittsburgh just some examples here about the way it's rails policy to silence it's critic. so get rid of them, works just for all of you is in 1979. i. the hudson's solid names appear low lead up behind the attack, so is really athlete. so the 1972 musical and pix, was killed in a remote control bomb in bay region. 2004 shakia see the founder of our mass killed again by a us apache hellfire missiles in garza city. in 1981. however, the install apollo in brazil, we have jose on the battle of bonnet. i'm at and a, a brazilian apples lieutenant who was killed according to the facts that we have at

the moment. radioactive poisoning because he most of the agents in israel didn't what brazil becoming a nuclear power. you have the very loud brash attack, some of the people in your neighborhood, but so it sort of feels a waste, miss rel, on the different confidence you want to do a little bit more quietly. it's all about keeping face or keeping good relations with your allies. yeah, and this is a global campaign, right? this is trans national and it has been for decades. but even with all the examples that you point to and i could point to several others actually uh, what is it done to counter mos? nothing. this is an organization that has actually grown more powerful over the years. so you know, targeted assassinations are a tactic. but if they're divorced from a strategy, and i would argue a political strategy, you're going to end up in a situation like these realize are in now where they've had a military campaign. totally divorced from any viable political strategy. and it's

likely to do to basically kick the can down the road. we're going to be back in the same situation in a year, 18 months, 2 years. but actually you're gonna have a younger generation of palestinians that are even more enraged than the previous generation. because of what they've just lift or rubbing. if i quit again briefly, i would say i want to bounce through this conversation. the policy has changed, doesn't it? from the 1950s whether use ratings would use these sorts of targeted killings as a last resort. the last clinical method yes, i think so they, they because they're really supreme court formerly approved targeted assassinations . so this is a policy that has the support of the highest levels of the law and in israel. and therefore, they just do it the trend as much as they want they killed, as they're doing engagement now, and they don't get any real accountability or pressure to stop us. but as colon said, the business,

they're not really succeeding. and if you look at the terms in the last 40 generously, people fighting back against israel, some government, some of the non state actors are much more sophisticated and technologically, militarily they're doing things that were never possible 2030 years ago. israel is much more vulnerable and there there's really no huge need to reassess the entire is really approach to engaging with or addressing the power of the palestinian challenge. and so, you know, it was time for this on 48 happened. there was a one and a half 1000000 posts and is there's not 13000000 of them. most of them are still within a 100 miles radius of palestine. and israel, they're not going anywhere. they are, they want a peaceful resolution. but these remedies don't want a peaceful resolution. they want the jewish superstate in palestine and israel that the backs of the uh, if it show or of the western imperial power, some voice,

there are no force during that period of hours. so we'll have to do this and therefore we have this continuing a situation which is a catastrophe for everybody in papa and tell of a collection was called the palestinian uprising of the intifada. actually impacted on the way that is right. the policy changed when it comes to dealing with the palestinians, and you might say pre intifada to post intifada. but i think these ladies, the government, all these way to government. and immediately after the occupation of the west bank and the goal is to say the to good, it's just easy decision. there's only one hand age will continue to control. ready of the west being that it does say, well, we'll never really for the withdrawal from it. but mike, really either directly or indirectly, that was one decision. and the 2nd decision is that if the public opinion would resist this is really set, the g is a would we have we will. ready each month the if you want,

they offered to low those of the presence in open prison. if the police thing is behaved well, namely, would not result in an uprising and a maximum security prison. if they did react with collective punishment that we all are familiar with and demolition of houses mess, arrested without a trial. it's an expansions and indeed the summary executions in killings. so i think this has not change of the way the government zip changed and maybe the tactics have changed the best that is really a strategy is to continue if i may just, and the shelton's at it to police. these really army is a police force a polices and not only the army, hundreds of thousands of is very young. ready in daily maintenance and policing, the 2 prisons that they've created, one in the west bank prison that has resulted in augusta and then this is the

uh i am going to trip. and next i think we just got a slightly off topic here because again, you know, we're focused on this on this of this issue of targeted killings. and you talk about the general perception of, of setting you how the palestinians are treated. but how does this? because the way the public did is really to spoil rough listening on radio, watching television news programs react to the narrative. that is a targeted killing right now. yes. but i think use, you know, you cannot separate eh, the killings from the septic getting the ideology in this i, i disagree little because why me and the other guess. because i do think this is the strategy. it's a holistic strategy but it is a sub did you with the hope that one day. ready they can, they can really make the hold of palestine induce, they know, as far as these, maybe the public is concerned. it has the fullest of both of these. when you choose your left to it and that's what i think you have to connect it to the way the jews

public is educated. indoctrinate that the human eyes, the palestinians. this is seen as actually a work of the elite as part of these, where the army, this is the height and look at the situation. now. there is no fixture of trying in gaza. there is a hope that these where the public would see the killing of the 3 children of honey it because the police equivalent to a picture of victory because they have totally failed in that operation. that they have started on the 8th of october and i was telling me that if you don't mind, i just broke it probably was calling in pittsburgh because i just wonder what the strategy will be now because we seen talked it killings 11 on in, in the past few months as well. we're seeing a raj thing up of violence from israel. the they have, they admitted it, but we, we know we generally come and take this believe they all behind obviously the bombing of the rainy and cold see the toughest in damascus. it is rusting up in a way that the global politics do not want. it's worrying america

a. well, the cynic in me would say that this is a deliberate ploy a by you know, netanyahu and his cronies, to deflect attention away from gaza. a, which is a, a conflict that's not going well for the audio. and to brought in the conflict to drag me wrong in a way to drag in the united states as a way of kind of saying, look, this isn't just as rarely thing. this is a regional issue, and are you were in a low boil regional civil regional war? now, when you consider what's going on, i love it on in yemen, in iraq, that ebbs and flows. and so i think that's the goal of that. and you know, it was to paint this is something broader and to take the focus away from god. because again, when you're killing, you know, the kids and grandkids of political, how much political members that means that you're aren't able to achieve your goals . and so you're, you're kind of reaching, you're looking for tactical victories,

right. more one is the highest ranking home aust, number that, that's been killed so far. these really have very few tactical victory support to and they have 33000 civilian deaths that the world is asking why? right? right me very quickly then let, let me just come and head this way. these running out to buy days when it comes to talk to killing in that full these over the board, the incidents are a way of deflecting, perhaps the lack of i don't wanna say imagination, but the lack of direction that a, the, the, is riley military or politic have right now. yeah, this to them is this one is that the is rarely is, are still trying to defeat some ass, which they're not going to be able to do no more than they could defeats as well or others they're, they're trying to was massive trimmings and destruction. they all have part of this is relation to what they will onset about the by the onto design as i'm for the last 120 years. i've just finished a little study of it's really propaganda points,

which i'm going to publish next week. analyzing what they've been saying for the last 100 years on the last 55 years and which i have engaged debates with this. rarely some pro, it's rarely people in the west, and this shows the issue has consistently said that it wants to stay for the jewish people, but it's power level whether it's a so the image as a bastion of western democracy, human those own in life and the good life, and they want to bring this to the of, i'm civilized, the arabs, and so they see this confrontational, it's not just with our son, but with later on with syria and with other people in the region. and they desperately want the united states to fight the battle for them, but they neither spaces pretty irresponsible, but not quite. the eviction of that they're gonna get into a war with has by law and the around. so this is realism, the political scientists call the real people. they don't quite know what to do, and all they can do is keep chilling and keep telling lies on exaggerations. this is what we're going to keep saying. indeed, sadly,

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