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hello that wrong jane space a wrong who owned it, would attack israel and reprisal for the bombing of its consulate in syria. and 13 days later, it did a huge wave of weapons and watched most shot down by israel's air defense systems with limited damage will casualties we're told perhaps has some list of said it's a kind of high stakes sparring with the wrong choosing. not to alicia, much greater for our power. it hasn't. it's arsenal, according golf display to flex it, raining and military muscle against its arch enemy may be as much for domestic consumption as to send the message to tel aviv. however, the diplomatic reverberations being felt far and wide with fee is about what might happen next. so how serious is the risk of wider conflict and what's being done to prevent that? and is the us president joe biden, the only person who can now writing and is ready. prime minister benjamin netanyahu will be exploring what might happen next with all puddle of guests and a few moments. but 1st, this report from lina, i will actually all the shop ways from iran attack

a reverberating world wide with many political leaders alarmed by the garages, drones and miss irons. it's the 1st time uranian weapons have directly targeted israel from iran. israel said air defense systems intercepted most of them to her own had vowed revenge after revolutionary guard commanders were killed in the bombing of the iranian consulate and syria. 2 weeks ago, the missile garage increases, international worries of sparking a wider regional conflict, but a rainy and military leaders sought to draw a line under the latest hostilities. and you'll receive this will produce and has completed and successful, and there is no intention to continue it. and it's over from our perspective. but if there's any resume, does anything against us inside the soil or anywhere in the city or as

a country is our next operation will be much bigger. if they use gets involved in any action against us, none of its basis would remain safe and that agent but towards from the top in israel will do little to ease fears of more conflict to come a model fossil diagnosed i'mma, this campaign is not over yet. we need to remain prepared and attentive to the ideas and homefront commands, instructions and to prepare for any scenario. at the same time, we blocked the 1st wave of attacks and we did it with great success on the us. presidential biden has again vowed to defend israel, but wants to avoid open conflict with you on since israel genocidal war and gods that began in october, killing and wounding more than 100000 palestinians. fears have grown debt, the violence could explode into a wider war. international diplomat or were can frantically to avoid further

military action that could have devastating regional and global consequences. leno barclay, i was just 0 for inside story. but we're going to define the significance of this escalation in the wrong israel conflict with all panel today into ron mohammed. brandy is a professor at the university of toronto and he's advise the raining and negotiating team of international nuclear tools in london. you'll see medical book is an associate fellow at the british pink time, chatham house, and the motion of dc. i boss shaheed ahmed is senior diplomatic correspondent that how supposed he's come with us foreign policy since the obama administration signed to all 3 of you for joining us today. mohammed, let me stop with you. we have had literally decades of hostility on proxy attacks between israel and the wrong. but what has changed in recent hours?

would you say that israel and iran and now at full well, 1st of all, the strikes last night against is rarely regime were very devastating. uranium, severely damaged to military bases. and the propaganda that we're seeing 24 hours a day and literally now and the western media about how little damage was. cause is because absolute nonsense, the ryans send many very cheap drones and old missiles as decoys. maybe a couple of $1000000.00 and is riley spent $1300000000.00 to down them. and then the main missiles all got through and struck the military bases. and this is there . any of these are so confident about themselves, and i guess today they can take international reporters to see the base of to basis for themselves. but beyond that, we have to remember that the ron has shown on strategic patients for years. and

there's riley is carried out assassinations any wrong years passed and sabotage. when that failed for they started to assassinate iranian officers and syria for a fighting peices and outside in their affiliates who were being supported by these rallies among others alongside the goal on heights and uh, and during the last 6 months, when the ron has been supporting gaza and the resistance and i've been opposing the genocide. this really is murder and the number of officers have you on is here. and iran did not retaliate at least directly because you're on wanted to keep the focus in the past on the fight against ice as an outside of that. now to focus on guys because americans wants the americans in his right. and he's in the west want to change the narrative. but since there is there any regime struck the running, the embassy and the us, britain and france and un security council refuse not only to punish those writing

wishing but to condemn, and you're on me until august, the 4th to punish the regime. and this has changed the equation, this is the big change. okay, now the bringing whatever, let me bring it in, you'll see an off couch change the question people have talked about this for a long time. is that shot the war? is it now hot tool? so yeah it's, it's so it's a direct attack. it's literally so it's what i actually agree with the previous because it's a 200 showed strategic patients, full full menus and that's, you know, fighting. so foxes actually sales day that day then you in the gym. but it definitely didn't, so it last night and i don't know well this information about taking i'm 9090 percent of the don't see a $150.00 me so it goes me. so ballistic, my says, willing to accepted and probably didn't cause much, much damage said leads, and joe bentley, lot one young go. and i think in the sense the question is,

what happens next? but it's, it's a change that the problem with those of these conflict from a should, the will for what these are cause will between was insight into it that x, y. now it on says, on the one hand, this is a close chip. so we want to move on the form there, he's a so you need to do is try the 8 i thing in the sense is better for is that not to be 5 yet because what that thing yesterday of to it? so actually experience months and months of criticism from its closest allies for the way it conducts the war and unacceptable wave conducts to what we mean guys are actually in arm. and there are limits yesterday to unite the united states as some companies in the region. your in defending in is way, so i'm not so sure in what sense this is a slip edging success. a full a full full a lot. but at the same time though, but i chose to be seen, these are the governments we seem to to, to retaliate. but it's as, as,

as it stands. and if you are the cause, always present, then by then to ensure that there is no ice field that escalation, a ha, how worried all day in dc? because of course, there's a new, clear dimension to this. israel doesn't talk about it, but we'll know it's a nuclear power. iran has a nuclear program and most experts say if they wanted to develop a nuclear device, the breakout time is just a matter of days now. absolutely, that's a huge be a i think that's an awareness of the vitamin ministration in particular, which did not do right. the obama here. i mean that deal that prep, donald trump trump, vito devices ministration knows that that choices have brought. there are much fluids. that's a new thing about seeing that uh, you know, ever before, i know israel right now has a huge incentive to begin to be more i think, for us officials what that thinking right now is how do we get israel to adjusting

said c, as in logical and beneficial to not as affiliated, however, what we know from 6 months of this conflict. now in casa, is that this document, and it's relative particularly not being driven so much bye. and that's the sort of the rationality strategy achieving its actual war. and that is being driven really by the political calculations of having to send that and yahoo and importantly, those around him. so you need to succeed have, right. so you show the type of you off the defense minister, very much seem to someone trying to hold that in the right. you now see study guidance. the, the kind of dc preferred alternative to that in yahoo also come out and say, we want to hit her on her. now what that means for the us is even if they're in a scenario where device immunizations kind of voice, and it's really a sketch of pollution against a rod. i think that they then seal, they lose political capital to stop israel virginia of everything. and so you don't

want to see how it's doing. so that means the operation and rough i and got that which the us, they can see me worried about what that would look like and what that means. the palestinian was for his national opinion against israel that it also means that the dog, right doctor pays for as you all could see. okay. it shut off in, let us he back in or on in such a huge dramatic we, we have been kind of jumping up a bit to go into a level that he does a real fear among us officials that the less ridge the saw i the rough uh, all that on is now by low on the us side, especially because the present binding chosen in this moment to refer to what school and his, their strategy with his route. so demonstrating over allow me military for about a rhetorical support for israel in a bit of japan to gain american insights that have them lives in process. so i don't know if it'll work to be of ours who's going forward looking at the scale of the attacks mohammad, you are telling us things that are not what we are hearing from the americans. and

these riley's, you type say that to bases well hit and severely hit. we've got no pictures of that . we've got no report has to go to the stain on yet the narrative is coming out from the us side. let me quote you the national security council spokesman of the us. admiral john could be an incredible minute tree achievement by israel is just an extraordinary example of minute minute teresa perry or see what do you say to that in the, you know, isn't this damaging for israel's us? why it wrongs military reputation in the region and damaging full domestically for the wrong? are these the same americans who are saying we have no evidence of genocide and gaza, or are these the same americans were saying that our intelligence says that there were panels under our ship a hospital or that the and it had that the resistance, they would,

they find their own hospitals. i think that's the same intelligence agency so i wouldn't to take it too seriously. okay, well my mom, i hear you made some specific claims which i haven't seen elsewhere before this program. certainly these rallies are saying that the base could nip out team, which is in the south of israel in the desert that suffered some minor damage just just to be clear for us. whereas the other base that iran says it was the very 1st of all, it's very surprising that in this base in southern israel, only a small little girl was severely wounded. i wonder what she was doing there. but uh i, i, it's all you have to do is ask, there's really so let you see the base and take a comprehensive tour of the bass. i'm sure all is well, but if really indeed the is, were heavier regime was successful, then why are the americans so worried about the expansion of the conflict?

okay, and that's not a problem. it, but just for you just to be clear because you made navigation about to basis, can you name the of the baseboards, please? it's an intelligence gathering base which this way of you said using against the resistance and the north end in particular in syria. so i think, you know, this 99 percent stuff reminds me of the elections of these governments that are controlled by the united states. these presidents, which i'll get 99 percent of the above. the fact is that to the is randy regime last night with simulated m. e. ronnie and hit them back. and when you're, you know, when your gas goes and says that the arab governments aren't with, or, well, you know what the, what their position may be. we have to look at what people on the street. so say, that's not what governments are saying. in fact, if the greater it's

a gap between the governments and the people in the region when it comes to as well, the worse it is for those governments. so when, for example, the jordanians are seen to be citing with this way of the machine. that's the jordanian government, that's not the jordanian public. let's. let's separate these 2. but again, as i said, if the ronnie and if the ronnie in the offensive capabilities are so weak, then then the united states should encourage those rallies to attack. you run again, but i think americans know that if israel strikes one, again, the response will be time even more harsh this time, right? benny guns. uh, one of the key members of the wall cabinet you'll see is saying that israel will extract the price in a time and manner of israel's choosing. do you think it plays into this in any way into the calculations of, of exactly what scale israel's responses,

the fact that this attack by iran was very clearly telegraphed in advance. it took place at a time when both israel and the us, well on the highest state of beloved island, the fact that there were no dest. it was that it was an element of the see at the dates where they were, we could watch at home and actually know exactly when they did loans in the ballistic me. so let me close me sides where, where we launch and what we have now that basically the tool is any negative in that contradict each other but one full domestic consumption and one for the installation of and strategic phase and full domestics vision is presented as a great success and there is some story about about a certainly basis beverly handled though, you can imagine that such a that image that it was like now with a very exposed something like this in the event. an probably, so this probably is, is

a coming from the end that they've developed domestically ended on, on the other hand, it was almost all the as the 2 on didn't for them to out. these are too much because done to spend the consequences for free, and that didn't want to push either these or as the united states, the agent into, into a cost schedule. well, so between the strategic and the need to pay some domestic pushes the cutting house some, some not $25.00 boxes, but the, the, that the, the tension. and what benny guns, which is one of the more responsible. and then bills of, of, of discovery that says, you know, is what we chose each time and, and the minute was retaliation. in other words, isn't, doesn't need to retaliate like no, because there was no major danger. and may major major. it was fatal material. damage to it, so that's, let's remind those have actually the damage was because 2 weeks ago and everyone expect expected and accepted the kid on salt to

a certain degree as device to respond. so there the question was is the time the scope and, and the place and that we. busy always happened, then everyone can move, move on, and again in many ways by finding some boxes, what's best to off and what is and it's been criticized for, for the last 66 months and being i selected. like now, you know, i'm actually maybe is a, is a standing intellect smelling the way, but to stand a ball, we seem to have evidence that the, the us did get to direct warning. and certainly the writing inside us saying that they did well on the us the evidence i have, for example, the u. s. president joe biden was at his home in delaware, and then a hardly heard back to the white house because he knew this was coming as a diplomatic correspondent, bureau organization. how much knowledge do you have of what's been going on behind

the scenes in recent hours and days? yeah, they're all june channels between the u. s. center i just kind of boss these messages about the confliction or any other kind of important message they need to pause, right? so one is to to switch or swash orthodontic in a different logic relationship by the time and future countries, and the who is the present vitals. quite controversial, the least advise that the very influential bradley has been running his own kind of travel in recent months, annual mind. and i received some documentation and some degree invitations better. uh so there are all these channels suddenly its on. so in, in d. c. uh, that rod does not want to sleep in some huge way right now and also perhaps as lot have the bandwidth to do so. i mean given the regional situation way. yeah, higher. it's all very conscious of all that population based bags. palestinians are

also very worried about it, right? i mean, that's understandable that a lot there. right. and then there's a ron old domestic situation coming now. little street off to mass protests, full the beginning of the, of a civilian woman. so that there's a lot of reasons bye around me about what has sleep right now. washington doesn't want to sleep, but i think the wild thoughts care remains that is really confident, right? by saying, well, i just want to highlight is that in this moment of loss, so it is a little bit low, and it's still talking incredibly right off the test legion's. on both sides. the 3 attackers mask a c around in the time to the, from iranian soil into israel. what? so? talking about splutter. escalations. okay. now who's going to bounce back in a big, scary be. and that's exactly the kind of talk that a lot of you have specials. don't want to see um conversely, at the political level and you have so we see present buying a lot as won't because especially republican saves the time is right to send $14000000000.00. more weapons says ralph strikes about the stalled moultry

population of 5 and has wanted since the father of the problem was so vile, that's a lot of hesitation. there's also a lot of political when you've read, including a d. c. not in israel to escalate by that arm, israel more which leads to greater risk to mohammed, let me ask you about diplomacy that might be going on behind the scenes. you've heard, brett mccook may be talking the power saying directly to the radians. what's your understanding of any direct contacts because of go breton, but because part of the obama administration has many of the officials in the by the administration building funds. the c i a director, he was involved in nuclear diplomacy, jake sullivan, the national security advisor. he previously was involved in negotiations with the radians, you know, old as well, but haven't because you were an advisor at one point. so the wrong nuclear team, all the direct tools between the 2 sides. you know, there are no direct thoughts between iran and the united states,

and we have the indirect communications between the 2 countries that have been utilized for years now. and of course, the romance of sending messages to the united states in the united states has sent messages to ron in the united states. and those quite well that escalation is not something that's an interest of the united states. if the united states were to get involved, these very same mist files and drones that are highly capable will destroy us spaces and the persian gulf region. and then across the region. and those countries that house, those bases will be seen as compress it. and that would bring about massive destruction and they will destroy the global economy because energy energy prices will go through the roof. so the americans may have enough the same people laughed in washington. i think that would understand that they can say the propaganda about

how all the drones and missiles were stopped and, and all that. and how and gaza israel is winning and holland up in on their winning . and after the americans are winning everywhere and how russian drowned and miss files are all shot down. they also, they're also being shot down. 99 percent of them in ukraine, but the americans are losing across the board. and the west is on the decline. and so, okay, i can let, let me, let me, but let me bring in, you'll see on this because it's pretty clear the us, i think all of us saying this wants to draw a line onto this and stop any further escalation of that seems to be around this position to but you'll see we've seen president biden in the last 6 months, give unconditional support to israel to defend itself. we've seen president biden send a naval a amada to the region. we've seen him provide diplomatic cup of israel at the united nations and we came, we've seen him continue you. despite all it asked of civilians to send weapons to

israel. and yet whenever buying me the said, show restraint, respect my red lines missing you all. who does not listen to him? so was way. does joe biden have over israel and the current is ready to government right now. and i say we need to differentiate between the usa policy. we need to come to got certain. i think we should have seen them way more block the president by then insulting the wall the ceasefire. you money town says 5 and, and, and, and they allowing mo, mo, you money to. and they the entering the release of the hostages and so on. and so forth that that was not enough place you on the attorney out and differentiates phone. they talked last night that that thing do elected states and other allies with lights in still pick a this income at the homes and, and me side. but when it comes to the united states, it has all the colors when it comes to is that if it's one seats can actually put

enough per showing, these are again, not necessarily to do exactly what's washington once, but the enough sometimes to service it. as for myself and the way, and then the thing i do is the, i think, and that's what this i disagree because actually is on, is supporting all the wrong causes. like now in the me least, i know. so even in the last show in, it's what we few thing, but when it comes to to, to guys that easily is not true winning the wind garza, it's making only it makes it well for the police students and full ways and, and if it's the whole of the united states actually to have the is a to get to be on the will to think about the day off the in guys are and type to be and also a new secuity architecture in, in the mid list which we include piece with the pallet stands mo, inclusive, including the fill out, but at the same to look at it on as built in. eventually it's false that the

stopper likes the legion. so you say that the u. s. has all the cards you'll see and is not being prepared to use them until now. while we're at mohammed talk about potential, each other will make melt down globally. if, if, if this was to expand into an all out war between the 2 countries. well, just 7 months away, you've got a us presidential election. do you think president biden is prepared to use all these cards? now? i can't seem to suitable. that therefore means the middle east is outside gratian because with sure that the mom and mentioning so, try that iran in will policy strikes on us basis probably in the bus and the probably shutting down the shipping routes. energy exports, that would be a huge blow to american global insurance to pass on vitamins re election prospects . a lucy, the us knows it has to leverage. right. so i think what, why look,

stop changes conflict that hasn't gotten enough attention. is that in a couple of states that as president biden has used that leverage thoughts over time, for instance, me know something, we'll see channels that it israel was ready to try to pull out 11. all right. they had made a decision. they wanted to expand the war, braxton bivens and had a 45 minute phone call with mountain yahoo! instead, this is not happening. what i think it is so striking about that is that that means by and that his team have known since october time, that it will take about a little to stop you through the actions. the weather is impala sign in casa in the west side, where they see that quite inside, and also regionally, the having me thought choice would be, i think the computational could shift as we get closer to the election. and i do things in the house and all that big. so yes, pressing button is thinking about is we election in november, but he and his team, this is a, this has been one of the handicaps of that release approach unfortunately. but it remains live that focuses the see themselves at these dots in the row, right,

and not just dealing with the conflicts of to day, but setting the stage for us relevance on the stage in the future. so they are very much thinking about the pacific that thinking about the war and you've created that you're getting security of some top point of view. they do not want some of these stabilizing sides of the say, like to contact me at least right now. that upsets the relationships that the end of the say, right? and it's that sends you security that they do not want some kind of shift the value of states towards russia feeling that recognize more successful new things. so that is very conscious of those factors as well. as certainly in need of the social. okay, thank you very much to all 3 of you all guess today. well, how is mirandi? you'll see medical book and eyeball shaheed, ahmed, as of algebra, aims to give you the most comprehensive coverage of what's going on in the region. and you can always find context. i'm in the, let's just on a website out to 0, don't com. you'll view so much appreciate 2, you can contribute on all facebook page. that's facebook dot com, forward slash

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revise wells and increases systems. customer ridgecrest the i'm carry johnston de la the top stores on i'll just hear you and the secretary general has called for the escalation during a security council meeting. close to discuss their rounds on president to the tax on israel becomes a day off to tyrone north. hundreds of miss townsend drones asked as ro, around says it was in response to israel's attack when it comes to that and damascus 2 weeks ago, which killed a senior revolutionary god, commandants.