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parts, but they didn't provide any evidence of that. right. what's the latest on the investigation into that? well, there's 2. number one is there's an internal investigation by the united nations that's done behind closed doors. privately, that's the name but investigation. it was ordered by the secretary general. we do not know when they will be issuing their findings. but they are looking specifically that the allegations that israel has leveled against 12 unread employees. that's number one. we don't know when that will be completed and or if it will be made public, we think it will be made public, but it doesn't have to be. but you went and said that they probably will the 2nd investigation. it's more of a, not so much investigation, but it's, it's, it's more of a looking into, if under a is being impartial in their, in their work. and that is being led by the former foreign minister of france. and
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that is concluded, and that will be released publicly in the next few days. not so much an investigation there, but more of just taking an assessment, if conrad is acting and in their practices is impartial. if you will, i should point out that israel has not given any evidence to their claims that any of our employees were involved in october 7th to the united nations directly to this day. okay, gabe, thank you very much for that. that sounds there is gabriel is under reporting that live from the united nations. we will check in with you throughout the evening to find out uh the latest that uh to the security council. as it here is a briefing about the situation in gaza. and of course, the role of when review and a refugee agency, meanwhile, cot, i said it's reassessing its role as a mediator between hamas and israel in the war on guys. the prime minister made the comments after talks with turkey is foreign minister. they also stress the need to
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deescalate the tension between yvonne and israel. us and g 7 foreign ministers gathered for us 3 day meeting in the tiny, an island of copies of gab, a death at the meeting will focus a force on the situation in the lease as well as the war in ukraine talks are expected on a political solution for peace and security in the middle east. and the g 7 leaders will then late to meet in june 20 more on all these stories on our website that alta 0 at dot com. the very latest on these drugs. one guys, of course i'll have more use in searching these right after listening state the you will see the card a duty and a grow viewing for p use
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germany stands accused of simplicity in israel's genesis. that does hit a nerve in berlin, plus investigative journalists in ukraine, digging into state corruption, the dangers would come with the 1st 6 months now. the world has watched as it is ready. bombs have fallen on gaza in a word that has killed more than 33000 palestinians. another 10000 remain on, accounted for presumably, dead. beneath the rubble, the level of destruction is actually in humane. which given the roll, the artificial intelligence has played in this war is no accident. according to an investigation by 2 is really news outlets. the military, there has been using an a i program called lavender, to identify its targets. the revelations about how the ai system makes those calls
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. the loss of innocent lives baked into the decision making process and how the killing actually takes place are all terrified. scary or steel is the fact that this is technology that can travel. so the implications of this story extend well beyond, regardless, right, the this is a war that 6 months in still manages through our phones and our feats. to horrify us the dates in the number of innocence, cute. in the way they are to palestinians urged by these re lease to go to the safe spaces better than bar civilians shot to death in the hospitals or when lining up for food starved to death. while the world watched. and when the is really military use is artificial intelligence and
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a i based targeting system code named lavender as a weapon of war among the casualties. the collateral damage is our collective human lavender appears to be a glorified a. i washed kil list effectively. it's a system that throws up names and we see it through the reporting on the alignment . their system that soldiers, again, are being compelled to treat palestinians as the numbers. what that does is it removes the friction that exists normally between humans and the decision to kill the systems lend a kind of veneer of technical rationality to what essentially seems to be a masculine campaign. it shows how the military strategy, after october 7th, was dictated by likely by vengeance. and it just goes to show that the use of this technology was really just kind of a crutch to allow this killing campaign to go on. these really military 1st
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deployed a i to select targets in 2021 in a war on gaza that lasted 11 days, 2 months after her mazda is a tax on october 7th to is really news outlets plus 972, and local call reported that the army had rolled out a more advanced, more destructive a i tool, called the gospel, able to increase the number of tar are buildings and structures from thousands a day to thousands. then just last week, those same 2 outlets combined to lift the lid on the lab and revealing that it takes that a technology and use it to target humans based on things like their social media, their contact movements, and how many times they change their sim cards. plus 972 and local calls say that they base their reporting on 6 sources or from the is really military. what their story makes clear is that the taking of innocent palestinian lives is not
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a flaw in the technology. it is a feature built here. this is a good example where a i has been misused as to a to worsening the situation for people on the ground, how it was was used for mass killing fetish. tenea is how they accept as 90 percent of accuracy and the 10 percent were accepted as a margin or for targeting people to ends off with over 33000 people have been killed and government and the only human review for that 11 their system was just to check within seconds, if the target is a male or not, which basically didn't humanizes palestinian men as they r o allow us to be targeted. and this is exactly why we should be questioning such as the commodities and how they are used. and we put an ice against oper. speaker 11, there was a band with them. could they get sort of an oven?
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they're basically creates a bank of target people to be eliminated. and the system phones $37000.00 such targets. this resulted in is red lombardi. and gaza with the quantity of weapons, but he's almost unheard of in terms of the amount of the t and t that was dropped there. why? because we have enough targets to drop a very large amount of explosives, because the system decided that these people need to be to be able to go read them, is actually make these cues decisions. and they are loaded with probability and bias errors, different from the errors in human decision making, errors all the same. so, so not the same. the most concerning part of these revelations was the over reliance on a systems. there was essentially a complete trust and prove that the system determine was a target. so instead of usually cooling through surveillance, data deciding if somebody was actually who must operative, the army just signed off on thousands and thousands of star gets to strikes.
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essential confirms with that almost everybody in gaza seems to be considered a legitimate target by the is really military. there's also the wave, a target. and when plus 972, and the local call also revealed reportedly based on those same 6 sources in the is really army. the existence of another automated system called where's data is used to track targeted individuals to their home. then comes between human element is really military personnel, delays or bombing until after dark, when there's a greater probability of the target being along with their families, thereby driving up to the civilian desktop. suddenly while israel is back politically in this war by washington, it's army needs, silicon valley technological. the military's mass surveillance systems are reliant
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on google images to work. google has a policy that dictates its products, cannot be used to cause what the company calls immediate har, not only is the tech giant breaking its own route by letting the israeli military attack palestinians with google's help. when journalists at the new york times the intercept or the listening post, ask the company to justified its inaction or even comment on it, it fails to respond. what school ought to do and whether other companies ought to do is to ensure that they are safe guards against their usage. that they aren't giving access to use their systems in ways that, that help scale out with the kinds of unlawful acts of witnessing and gaza. simply saying that one is pro human rights is a tech company is not really enough anymore. and really back tech companies have to have to do a lot more to ensure that they aren't knowingly or unknowingly contributing to the situation and gaza and the sugar facing the people that google didn't necessarily
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realize they were creating software that would become the basis for one of the biggest surveillance systems humanity has ever seen. some people in the army who saw the systems in action did something quite unusual and spoke about why it was so wrong. i've heard that many people in these rarely army who do not agree with how the war is being foot. those are spoke up or perhaps the bravest, these rallies in the war, something broke within them and they decided that they would not call for it any longer. about it said on the scene, i live in brooklyn certificate the israel has been holding it. surveillance of palestinians for years the west bank city of hebron has been the primary laboratory, the testing ground for new surveillance to palestinians in gaza. now find themselves in a distill p, a nightmare at the mercy of a military that can see their every move and can kill with the parents impute as
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damaging as the investigation by plus 972, and local call may prove to be for as really leaders the reality is this a technology is being showcased. live in the gospel under, planned by google images, are all being marketed to potentially bad actors around the world that they could be coming soon to a war zone near you. an important aspect to keep in mind because often times, you know, tech companies that are particularly involved in supplying the kinds of systems that there's rarely security forces. administrative defense use actually a game. and that's the benefit out of being associated with the kinds of scalable warfare that we see happening and then guys that because it drives their value up from the point of view of military effectiveness. so now the next government that is seeking to exact the same kinds of warfare and will look through these companies
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as well, right? the misuse of technology, the i system and everything that has been waived for an ice in this ongoing during the site. bring us the big question about how we should today join forces with all the countries and with other ferguson people to ask for a little bit regulation for the use of technologies and a i this to bring us to the question of a zip code of 9 patient of technology because big relations are lagging behind that lead to this to community just to be misused as worth times. and as those a, our systems are evolving. they are just use to increase the operation of the red press, the put in global majors to countries this past week, the international court of justice, nicaragua, accused germany of facilitating genocide in gaza. and that has not gone down well with either the german government or the news media there. mean actually,
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robbie is here with the details. the i, c j is on video to decatur to lawsuit against israel over this assault and gaza with the case broadband. because aguayo is the 1st to put one of his allies in the dock. it centers in germany's role as a primary supplier of weaponry to israel. government is taking to onto it, showing up legation to prevention. decide what with respect, i think the nation where you many tavian law only the united states sends more military equipment to israel than germany. but as washington does not recognize the sieges, judas dickson, a case against the us is considered and viable. because algo has argued the germany's position to keep its weapon supplies flowing. often earlier i see the ruling that is really supposedly committing genocide makes it complicit. that's would be agree of accusation for any state, but no way does it cut quite as deep as in germany given its responsibility for the deadliest genocide of or the world war 2 holocaust. but also the genocide,
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early in the 20th century of the hey data and nama peoples in what is known. and maybe a drilling sensitivity was on display in how many in the media did, decided to respond to the i c, j. case you should. this is a, it's very why is it us, it, us good. at least you can find a lot. i named the unplug the door, she runs, then in golden is done the form of tests thoughts. and by if it's a for the most license, when does this look good offers. all the media outlets dismissed the allegations on account of nicaragua as own poor human rights record is relevant as the show for i'm starting this will be in the car hardware. awesome, cool. enough to see mission with windows and dispensed in. the timing of the i c j . case was interesting. the day before the hearings began was the 30th anniversary . a bit of london genocide in which more than 800000 people from the tipsy ethnic group were killed in a treat. the german foreign ministry said the faith of the tutsis is a constant reminder for us to never again look a we to, one day later,
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germany was being accused at the was highest court of doing fall worse than that. thanks. the ukraine is now into the 3rd year of its more with russia and the printing and journalists are feeling the pressure. investigative reporters whose work is critical of by the, the authorities or military leaders are getting smeared online. masked men have come knocking on their door. the authorities in key of, we're fine with the investigative news outlet be, who's dot info when it was exposed in russian war crimes. but reviewing cases of corruption in ukraine has resulted in journalists there being placed under soviet style surveillance by the security services. we contacted president, florida minutes the landscapes office asking what if anything the government is doing to protect reporters, no reply. but listening posts. joanna, who's now on the ongoing attacks on journalism in ukraine.
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the more so. this is the kind of journalism ukrainian reporters, that investigative outlet be host info. do they keep a close eye on the countries rich and powerful? however, last december, the journalists were the ones being watched. the team had gathered in a hotel for a training workshop and became the targets of a major surveillance operation conducted by ukraine's intelligence services. it was only when a little known youtube channel posted video and audio recordings in january that the journalist realized what it happens. the material suggests that they've been using illegal drugs and questions whether they could be trusted. people in the you talk about what they did do at the usually in the search. what was the rules of bull commercials to just make it plus new york?
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no grains keep the routers the instead is home to be who's to launch its own investigation into how and why the surveillance was carried out. when it says it will do it. they've done everything out in the open, leaving an incredible amount of evidence on the hotels 60 t. v. overall, there was 13 people involved in this operation. before we arrived, they came to install like gadgets rented the cottages, installed surveillance, even in the sooner. no dock, though it's now a week later they came back to remove it too. so it was a massive operation by the security services at the ship. i'm facing us of money. it's not that we're surprised by the surveillance. so pressure, we keep an eye in the forty's, they keep an eye on us. but when the special services deploy a huge amount of resources to monitor a team of drug list at a time when we are at a full scale war, that feels like intimidation, a symbol on the post,
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or downstairs, or no mistake, or some just surveillance. based on the phone conversation is we know they also wire topped us for more than a year shuttle. the story triggered an uproar within a journalistic community in ukraine. but the targeting of the host was in an isolated event. other journalists have been harassed by on an offline the editors of national newspapers and online publications issued a joint statement. and even met with investors of g 7 countries. asking the diplomats to pressure presidents and landscape to denounce the attacks. would you keep these natural or the least unable to proceed. ready to landscape fire, chief of the intelligence department, responsible for the surveillance of a government investigation is underway. but the story expose the tensions between the president and the train in 4th state. put your last, have you not to when the war started, there was an unspoken agreement among journalists to not criticize the cleaning on
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saturdays, or all of the anti corruption investigations to talk to. but eventually we realize that people are, i want to hear the truth about whether someone is profiteering from the war. if corruption is taking place, if also are these are making competent decisions, grandma or to change it issue, but i know clean to ukrainians to mont diverse sources of information. that is why opposition media such as the who's studying for an independent media, a mega popular, and at times more popular than the media outlets that the government had authorized . there is competition on telegram 2 and the government is trying to create a space on telegram that works event. we're watching more. yeah. cra. okay. and we want to see how shits and anonymous telegram channels are used to discrete agendas to members of civil society. and it's just been led to career loss that were being cast as enemies of the ukrainian people called rushing agents. that's very
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dangerous because we hold a pro ukraine position, but also believe the government needs to be held accountable. there's liberal transparency, but it's clear that all of this is happening to those who criticize the government or military leadership re not. and then let me see what it is. i've gotten a good shape, so i'm gonna buy some more show a lot of them. you see that the author already is react quite nervously. the criticism and some actions of journalists demo, which despite the many restrictions old during the listing ukraine face investigative outlets are now technically uncomfortable topics like corruption, mobilization and troop losses on the battlefield. cream, able to share, i mean you out of the favor. in contrast, really no to morning us. when do we stop? the stories remain largely outside the mainstream news, agend business day and united news tv merits. on a rolling news bulletin that is comprised of 6 national channels that came together
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at the start of russia's invasion in 2022. not 2 years later, those channels are still broadcasting the exact same thing. turning out messages that come with the government's seal of approval symbol would click on united marriage and was a response to the invasion. when none of the channels have the capacity to provide 247 useful cost to last level, the lowest. it was necessary to very quickly find a format that would provide a verified source of information with minimal opportunity for russia to interest you to return to substantiate what are the ones that yeah, it's becoming more of a p r exercise for the also are these tools to con society and shield people from the real state of things. there's a place for state propaganda during the war and the most, but there also needs to be balance for hope was the separate. there's only one channel, so it'll be live tv keeps some voice to be oppositional. otherwise, the marathon is almost void of opposing these successful. obviously,
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a good summary, inconvenient topic were satisfied the alarm, and many journalists have questioned the formats. editorial policy and governments expenditure on the united news tv marathon is separate from vanya cumulative and investigation by b, who's published in march, doug into the ownership structure and funding of the company producing content shown on tv, marathon events, the canada via k. my at um, one of the tv channels that has a 6 hour growth cost slots on united news is the state department tv channel. it does not produce its own content but pays a private production company. a significant amount of state funds from one of the highly of us level. um, our assumption is that this company is close to the presidents entourage. but you could ask why is it important to talk about this production house a tool? well it's because they produce content that ukrainians watch around the clock speed . it's the answer to the warble. yeah,
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absolutely. bath and then the sure i'm absolutely confident that those in power would like to totally dominate the media space and replace all t v output with the mattresses and spread the message all over the internet trying . but i doubt that they can achieve the result they desire that on nimble the content of all ukrainian media comp. be controlled and why do we have a back? but i can think for ourselves a bit good. you always mentioned to you, they said that all the recent weeks presidents polanski has toughened his stands on anonymous social media tools, many of whom have gone aster journalist. he has pushed for more regulation and transparency in february. when's the lensky? how the press conference is tone towards during the list was more conciliatory. guess executive additional what it did for us to but with the ongoing threat from russia and dwindling aid and media attention from the west, ukraine's government is keenly aware of that inconvenient store. it is about
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corruption and scandals may hinder their coons. ukraine's investigative journalists say the task of keeping the country's image support. this cannot happen at the cost of transparency and the troops. we sort of mentioned them never who were not enemies, the printing, no stories were partners, but we're also demanding partners and we have a mission. we're careful with our criticism invoice. it's only one. it is impossible with a quiet one our society, a victory or democratic development. is under threat. sorry, i'm not sure if it was just what i'm doing. investigative journalism is not about digging back. it's about making the case for something to change. we want everyone involved in this surveillance, the scandal to be brought to justice. so it wouldn't happen again. democratic ukraine should not look like this, because we're not russia like ukraine. another
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conflict that's been knocked out of the headlines by the story in gaza is the civil war ensued on. the country has been torn apart for a year now by a power struggle between the sudanese armed forces and a rival militia group. the sheer scale of the humanitarian crisis is what stands out here. roughly 8000000 people have been displaced 6000000 internally, the other 2000000 to neighboring countries and estimated 18000000 are going hungry for this coming week and emergency humanitarian conference will be held in paris, its mission to try to raise $2700000000.00 to make up for the shortfall in food. this conflict deserves far more attention than it's been getting from the global news media. and that includes us here at the listening post. we'll see you next.
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weren't find elsewhere. there is no over there and it's hot, it's right here. and right now the stream on out to the around so how is your vacation in this, the shelves? the chest. wow. the, the killing of i'll just return it is shooting a book that was not an isolated event. it highlighted the whole question of press freedom of turn in a skilled one, doing their job. they were certainly aiming in the direction of the terms of the 0 world looks at the number of journalists killed into occupied palestinian
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territories, which has increased dramatically during the war on god and at the problems of holding anyone accountable for 3rd task shooting. the messenger $10.00 to 0. the widespread destruction in gaza is really strikes this joy palestinian homes in the north of this, right? the you watching l g 0. live from bill. how with me for the back, people also coming up dismounting on what we have lasting with our solutions the head of the.

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