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best? no doubt that social media hesitate a significant role in attracting sir is to use these spots around the world today. 80 percent of travelers visit just 10 percent of the world's tourism destination. and residents of these instagram level locations are always thrilled with the fluids arriving on the show. i'm very impossible and this is the straight away locals are literally like please don't come enough tourism to interpretation

is a major problem in mexico city. say a german woman ran up in the temple and they did. a danish woman was arrested for exposing himself to republic upper. this man was arrested as he tried to solve police officers for not painted bar to people, made it to the islands are now getting water cut off because of the surface of torres that have came in an overcrowded molly. prices and brands have driven out local people, and it's almost as if they are in the background noise to this western disney land . instagram for little bit people are before us, are living the a by 25 c the u. n. for the next step, the number. 7 of terrorists worldwide will reach 1800000000 leading to grace and pressure on hot spots, housing crises, cultural erosion,

environmental degradation. these are just a few of the effects of, of a tourism. so they will be asking is the way to do travel best. so joining us to discuss this on guests from 3 communities that are directly affected by these issues. the key i found of education through travel who was born and raised in hawaii, cyrus wattsey put tree a bottle of these poet academic and alex gonzalez, overrides a mexican martha and historian. thank you all for being here with us, sarah swap, the can i ask you 1st, you are joining us, one of the most instagram locations in the wild body. what shocks you the most between the depictions you see a bali on social media and the reality of life for locals. thank you, man. social media is a powerful tool, but oftentimes it's the big thing. a really narrow and also

a constructive 3 l a. b of body and, and one in one sense there's this valley ask uh, a 1000 temples island, the gods and goddesses island, the paradise. but then in, in opposition of it. of course we know now recently in body there's been viral reviews of, of taurus on visitors, of being violent and endangering themselves and others, and trespassing into sacred spaces. and i think it's, so it's, it's, it's quite sad about that. those imagery are the trash thing. um, ideas, so by you know, me, onyx, i want to ask you about mexico city, which has seen a huge influx of cycle digital. know, matt's post curve it on digital norma, the new gen for 5 years. well, i think the an excuse for the gentrification was seeing mexico's that he has more

or less appreciate it in terms of it's a value of the rent about 7 to 8 percent of the past 5 years. but this is entirely down to foreigners. it's very easy to point of them, but mexico cities huge in the foreigners, are very much concentrated in certain areas that are popular areas. but these areas are already being gender aside from before. so i think it's a broad conversation that we've got to be having delta care in a hawaii is one of the most popular service destinations in the world. as someone who works in sustainable travel. what are some of your main concerns around how people currently visit the islands? the people currently visit the islands without any consideration for the people who live there often displacing local residents out of this year or more hawaiians live outside of the even inside the island. so how tourist choose to spend their tourism dollars and real estate they occupy and who they how they choose to participate in

culture, activities all determine the life of local people there. when you travel, do you think of yourself as a visitor in someone else who is home or as a tourist and does it matter? take a look at best buy for experience torres. like experiencing molly's there seem to be a level of disrespect there that i've never seen before. i feel like this is the prime example of this didn't really t, which is a largely muslim island. and these signs are everywhere, asking people not to walk around of the big caves. obviously, as an island, people are on the beach. people are in bikinis, that's fine, but they're asking people not to wear them when they're like, walking around the town. yet almost everyone i saw was walking around town in bikinis and it's unexcused of oh, i didn't know because the signs are everywhere. and this was something that i feel like i saw so much involved in like all different aspects just in terms of like littering. and i don't know like just taking a 1000000 pictures everywhere to like a degree would have never seen before. but i just think it is so crazy that if

you're going to travel somewhere, you're not going to respect what people are asking from you, sarah. so i see i'm just recently in kyoto in japan for us have been banned from certain parts of the geisha area. is the geisha district is the way that people visit bali needing to any tensions with locals. and if so, one of those tensions around as well as i said earlier that there's this social tension happening in bali. and the main problem is how local views are not being respected. and i think also how the visitors and i'm thinking about what you said, the tourist, they're thinking body as a just another hot spot to some other content for them to upload. it's reducing bali and, and the society as mary and mary objects were asked, i think of when we're visiting a play slips really interesting about the place and the space is the people and how

we connect to the people. um uh, the caring uh you recently led a visit to pow hall, but in hawaii where your thoughts are on uh the ancestor roots of that site. can you send us a little bit about that and what happened and what problem that sort of reveals really? yeah, sure. um the so pro harbors a number one most. is it a destination on a walk through one of the islands because i e and um it is a military base to everybody else except for native hawaiian people. it's native hawaiians, it's literally called pearl harbor because it used to be covered with pearls. but after the military are occupied, you know, one girl find pearls on our trips. we go to pearl harbor to honor what it is to hawaiian people, which is an ancient sacred burial ground. and in that process, let me go to state grid spaces. we do protocol we chat, we ask permission to enter into the play,

cuz sometimes we leave offerings depending on the location. and in this case we left an offer in chance in order to enter, which is very, very, very common in hawaiian culture. and actually the most proper way to enter into a sacred space. um, recently i brought a height highschoolers about 20 of them to visit pearl harbor, but to learn the hawaiian side of it. and they were confronted by the national guard and ended up being a whole entire front line between my 2 hawaiian culture practitioners. myself and my staff and 20 high school students are visiting from brooklyn. um, participating in a very innocent chat and being matched with a full line of national guard, threatening to kick us out. not letting us enter, saying that we're not allowed to practice these things on, on a national park property. um, it was extremely intense. we had to have a download about it afterward,

especially with the chaperones and the kids and their parents. um and thats just for a simple song. yeah. uh and so this just, this contributes to how tourism affects how cultures are preserved and the commodification of culture. well tourism changes local cultures and a multitude of ways. check this out. this is how bad it gentrification and so you either make you go is truly getting affecting how local businesses run there every day. but kids don't even make spicy santos anymore because the u. s. remote workers that move their don't like the spicy size. that could be yes, are losing business. you're almost uh they should be the most common video of this . but basically they can a comment on a ne, i keep you call us on sale. and the backup book, it is an all because you might be going to open already as are being shut down in order to make way for modern work spaces. locals are being turned down from jobs if they can't speak english to serve the us remote workers. alex,

this might be thought of as a somewhat humorous point, but there is a more serious diamond sion to it isn't the to yes, i mean cause those non spite yourself as symptomatic of what we're seeing across mexico cities tourist area. but i really want to emphasize how important it is to realize how much better to use a tonic city. it's not can coo and it's not educated specifically the tourism. it's got married or other things to focus on. and so even though it's quite easy to blame choice because that's already publicly stupid, sometimes it's also a very easy way to hide what's really going on at the next couple of the economist . what else i'm talking about, what sort of going on below the, the surface and this has to do more with the infrastructure seems to be got mexico . the fact that perhaps no one's to be talking about what we locally called the development mafia. this is a local, political, and economic group that breaks laws and can modify living spaces far more than the

7th of the $72000.00 all the ad b and b's comes in fated in the room at columbus half polanko areas of mexico city . so i think theresa often problematic no doubt, but they're also a very good way to hide structural and preexisting issues in the cities. thanks. but clarifying that's um the key on the, the, the who lot is probably one of the best known hawaiian traditions. but that has also been impacted how's net yes. so if you go to oftentimes and on the airplanes, i always hear people ask each other. oh, what do you do and how about e? and it's like, oh, i went for a while. oh, i saw who i show but, but actually all of those are out of context, especially if we're going to hotel to do it. we don't have a spiritual practice that's done as an offering to the god. it's been a natural spaces at done during specific times and for specific purposes.

and now it's just been commodified so much that it's really just, sometimes it's performed for tourists and you can even see it. and the 2 types of hula that exists. one is called because chico, which is the ancient, where intern practice and the western are started coming to the island. they changed to a lot about the new one is called alana and it's slower. it has different rhythms. it's not as quote unquote sexual, but they have different clothing. uh so you can see how things change. uh, western the western gaze starts to enter into culture. there's fluffy, i'm struck by how the pictures of bali riley ever feel connected to indonesia or by them use culture. in fact, it reminds me of the coloring. you'll adage, a lounge without people for people with outlined. do you see a colonial by mention to travel today is definitely,

i think what's happening now. it's kind of a legacy of the colonialism happening in indonesia and bali particular because value was presented to the world during the 19 twenty's and the dutch from colonialism as like the gateway to the paradise and it's being portrayed and it's being projected to the world with that sense of exotic and romantic feeling, but in reality, what's really happening is people are losing their land. there's plenty of persistent problems like water starts to see because of the ongoing clash with the demands of the expansion of tourism. and um, i think instead of at we can imagine a different idea of tourism what,

what happened in body, instead of having empowered the local people the body needs. what is happening right now is exploitation a. bunny m o is a travel writer whose work focuses on the intersection of the colonized ation and the travel of culture. and this is what they have to say about the roots of the tourism industry. you know, colonialism, it transformed it and really kind of burst in the way that we considered travel. the ways that we talked about travel and how travel physically transforms a place and, and that project, i mean, you have this class of the powerful and the dispossessed. you know, of these explorers going to his wild lands and seeing what they found. and really it was all for the for resource is right is to have to put people know if it turn will kind of service place and a place of servitude true. and another power for their economic wealth and for

their enjoyment. so i say tourism is the leisurely phase of colonialism. so there is this idea and this never ending excuse of, i'm helping the economy. they need me. it's something i call the tories savior. it's like, where would you be if we weren't here, you know, supporting you, you know, back from folks, sorry, but that's what you're saying. you're saying they need or what was, why, how was it surviving before you came like that's how tourism industries flourish out of the development of local industry. you have so many coastal places have, you know, local fisheries were just the heart of, of a lot of the town of fisher folk, you know, work art, coastal people and then resorts come, your pose, boulders like, you know, look at jamaica. i mean, you have to travel further or further away to serve people who are from far, far away and you just cannot survive and live sustained to be in the place that you were honestly born into unsustainably. i like 5 sense. you may have

a reactions about video or i think it's, it's, it's a very valid point to make. but again, it's up to sketching the dynamics within places like mexico that have a long history of internal colonialism. long after the spanish left, the columbia leap continue to rule this country and we see it again. it's no coincidence that it's the partial parts of mexico. they've got all the tourist insightful this to us dollars. and then suddenly at the local, it leads found themselves being lost out of their own areas. now it's, it's sort of ironic because these are the people gentrifying these areas before and they happened to invoke the very people who could beat them at their own game. so again, i think it's very interesting, always seeing this sort of domino effect, because all these people who are most vocally complaining about gentrification and mexican, such as these tend to have been the general size themselves. and we have this domino effect, but you've got the sort of central a towards the areas,

the gentrified areas pushing out previous gentrified. so then go on to genta fi less than 5 areas. and we've got this domino effect going on across the mexico city . how can you solve this? i think it's a massive sort of question because it's easy to say, well, how would they surviving before the tourist always came in? well, with industry the polluted r, as extracted the water. so we've got very exploitative industries going on before the end of the gentrification before and after tourism. it's not as easy as saying get rid of all the choice, but because we do actually need that money, we do actually need that diverse economy. it's more about decentralizing it, and i think that's the key, at least in mexico. get people out of the same of places, i think, to enjoy them anyway. it's mo, from a little frantic. few. oh, those, karen, i, i wanna bring you in on that. are there any parallels in hawaii that i wouldn't say that, but i do want to say that i think that that comment on that video is a very,

very narrow view of the world polynesians are steve ferrers, i mean, probably just have traveled for thousands and thousands of years they were a tourist, but before there was tourism, i mean you see that what japanese shirts you see that with indigenous trading, all along the border of canada and mexico, the united states. so they were all tourists and they were all, i guess, who do i put exploiting resources but it was in balance. it wasn't a balance to way that people would have an exchange. and i think you're saying like, for us are bad or travel is bad. well, that's not accurate because human but human spc is inmates of travel. we were a nomadic when we started out. so i don't think that the answer is get rid of all the tourists. like alex said, it's just creating a more balanced system, especially economically. and alex again pointed out that the elite exists everywhere. and the, i would say, it's more of

a capitalistic structure that is being hurtful to those who can don't. there is no equality. um, so i think that creating an equal balance monetary lee would balance out to travel and tourism and the harmful effects of that because there are awesome effects of tourism. and yeah, some of it is economic, but a lot of it as cultural, the spread of idea, the spread of culture, it opens mines. it creates like diverse points of view. i think that bonnie is, is it has like a very short narrow version of what it means to travel. got it alex. i want to read you back in a 2nd by what oscar especially about this i do, you know, can travel is better and show maybe that the money is just gotten back into the local economy is a ways that maybe they could be more focused on that yeah, um tourism in valley is a big business. um um last year 2023 by the welcome

warrant ends by 1000000 people uh to our tiny island. and um, the, the problem is we have to be very careful in thinking about how to create the sustainable economy that process for uh, the, uh, presler. um the people the, the local people of bodies. so um, currently what's happening, the profits are going mostly to the, the, the come to the cooperation from glum darcy and foreign investors. and creating. 5 a widening gap between rich and poor, and i think we must try to tell people how we can, how, how we can promote agencies by the nice people making their decisions and having their decisions and the, and being a, someone they did their,

their. a voices and that's, that's we're, that's what we're trying to do right now. alex, do you want me to come back? yes, within this discussion we had a long ridge discussion. not once, have we mention to the states and its role. i think it's incredibly convenient for governments to not get involved. you don't want to touch the with the golden goose and so the state often just need to intervene, but it's so much the state can do right. regulation of the space is not huff. house of let regulation like be seen here in mexico city. are we since think of a list of that b and b is a very little to do with what actually happens afterwards. uh, public housing. i mean, this reestablished events at the top dimensions i think is crucial because it's not about limiting towards there's nothing about telling them not to come us communities to live from these people. but it's where the state can come in and we just do with that money effectively amongst the community that can be effective

from the arrival of a massive holdups taurus. i would like to keep dr. karen, and can i ask you about sustainable travel then on or off the back of that? and if i do that, sometimes obviously what brings people to these, you know, usually sports will make sense like popular or like cheap package. holidays is more sustainable. travel inherently more expensive and is that something we just need to accept? i think that's an excellent question. um, so for example, on our trips we, the average torres spends $4000.00 a week and how about you and all of that money most likely is leaving the island. the island is covered with corporations. and as i was pointed out, the states could be controlling that, but they don't um, and so these corporations pocket, all those money and as far as the money coming into, how about you? and then we have like local agent to use like mine who offer a 100 percent native hawaiian vendors, uh, native wine class, as native wine culture events. and people repeatedly have started like your, your,

your trips are too expensive. i'm trying to do. hawaii, i'm a cheap and i'm like okay, if, why is this present to you? how do you think it is for hawaiian? how do you think that they survive in such an expensive place? and so, yes, our trips are expensive because we pay a living wage. the regular local native hawaiian people can survive in their own homeland so we aren't displacing them. um sir, so i'll tell you, i wanna give you the final word if i may, on this id or maybe more responsible tourism. if there was a way, the if there was one thing maybe that you could ask visitors to do differently when they're coming to body. what might it be? oh, as a body nice. and also who's family working for years and tourism. i, i treasure, meeting and encountering a lot of people from different parts of the world and from different walks of life

. it's, it's, it's a part of, it's a part of a unique meeting with other people and we enjoy that. um, i think as visitors, uh we are not passive individuals and we can be an, an active and, and a more um, more practical that we can, that we can care about the, the face that we have a special memories on. and i think that's, that's that kind of feel like there's response to the responsibility. but that also entails as whenever we are visiting a place. well, i wanna thank you uh all of you, my guess. so don't say key or no cyrus, why fi and alex, of course i want to thank you for watching. did you enjoy the show we want to hear from you? if there is a conversation, i was hoping you would like to fax to us,

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