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as we have political rights, we convert to freedom of speech. we can criticize all government as much as we want . i'm not going to come to you and say if you vote for this issue, the answer to compile all of these things going to to do. but i know that because i mean, wait and if maybe the point is where to take a lot for us to take us out of it. so it's very important you can hopefully by realistic at the same time you sent you the, i think that saw that some democrats, that i think that was package and nicely put everyone on it and put my data on the same thing with a different that people what we saw was an opportunity for change. we're still figuring out what works for us and what doesn't. so it becomes very hard to explain to a generation of people were born born freeze, who are thrown into the system movie and told you have this right. you have that right, but not really towards the responsibilities and not really being able to hold and you just are comfortable to the instance of a democracy is changing of leadership. so to see how healthy i would democracy is i think this year will be important in that sense.
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i often say i'm the change i want to see. and that begins with me one time demo with young people that we bought. and that's way it is. you don't inform yourself your educate yourself about the state of the economy, about with the standing and how you can make that change and contribute to it. so i'm the change i don't want to see is the power of holding being a young person. i just goes to university this. yeah, i'm a 1st. yeah. i'm now able to vote. so i think for me, my role is a student is to like, i get everybody else. you also just hear me. i'm interested in making a difference. i love to say that one job of was in that, which means nothing much. can you send me in that one some week? so if 27 meet invoices agreed to commit to make change the voices of you. that was something you, we could do more in 5 years then this happened in 30 years, and that is that i can tell you guys,
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i'm so grateful to you for sharing these valuable insights into the state of south africa. and the future is to see us in this beautiful setting that university your university, my university, to thank you for speaking throughout your 0 and now the valley of a japanese. yeah. and that's folded into its lowest level against the us dollar in more than 30 years. a decision last month by the bank of japan to raise interest rates for the 1st time since 2007, some little to hope a slide. adela is not worth a 160 in a week a year and it's good for expos, some tourist. but it's households by increasing input costs. that's it from me down . jordan from avenues continues here on the i'll just say era off to generation change don't go away. thank you so much in the a miss themes in the cause of stress as is there as long last continues. there's
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a deliberate mission of posting and humanity in western media. and it needs to be question, sustains coverage that actively humanize as, as readings and actively humanizes palestinians. this is not the time for doing this kind of way. tracking those stories, examining the journalism and the effect that news coverage can have on democracies everywhere. here at the list think that's the very look on this and public confrontation, young people across the u. k. a putting their bodies on the line to full attention on the issues that my so to them. meanwhile, the u. k. government is coming down and protest it considered as disruptive and anti social with new rules and hosted consequences. welcome to generation change a global series attempts to understand and challenge the ideas that might provides
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you around well, today we meet to active. this is different methods to push and they'll be for change. whether it's direct action or engaging with the political system. they come pain or issues ranging from the climb emergency to migrant lights and the play belong straight. the says that to me you born in canada, to somebody parents that you grew up here in london. what plenty to see to doctors and see what plans to proceed for me was growing up in the early, 2, thousands and the backdrop of the rock floor everywhere. you loved me, it was talking about my friends and talking with people that looked like me. and i think that filled me with a lot of anger and kind of confusion. and i became quite assess the politics if i
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didn't engage in that politics was definitely engaged with me and my identity in setting the terms. and i didn't about top of i think he was familiar with the time climate crisis. so climate imagine the new spoken about climate justice won't see me when you talk about us for a long time. we've talked about climate change as an environmental issue, right? but climate change is a symptom of a system not breaking down and not working and responsible for a lot of other injustices. so whether we're talking about racial injustice, whether we're talking about the housing crisis, or inequality at the heart of it is an economy that prioritizes profit and profit for the few. and then is pondering people on time that so we have the same companies who are responsible for the vast majority of emissions are also responsible for poor working conditions and low wages. those are responsible for
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not paying taxes and you have to pick up the bill. people so when we talk about climate justice we talk about building a hopeful vision of the future. that means we can tackle other social injustices and the pursuit of timeframe. how much i hope people would say that there are many climate movements of the name. it was a fight a against the climate crisis. say, where did you see a got a new organization? green you do rising in g and d rising. we haven't better than analysis of things that the climate movement hasn't necessarily gotten right. one of them is my time limit for a long time has been white and middle class, and we will know in order to be something as big as climate change, we need everyone. and so how do we include everyone? what if we built an economy? that's the only priority was to serve people on products. we would have an economy that invested in communities that built wells for communities that lived within
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planetary boundaries because we're investing and renewables and public transport. and that's what we're doing are going to do a rising as we're talking about the green deal, which is an economic transformation that allows us to thrive in the future and tackle climate change. the other thing up super different about what we're doing is for political or main tech, take us to find them keys and hold them accountable in terms of challenge them and film them so that we have them on record. and when we put them on line, you know, it's up to the electorate to decide whether these people are for us and against us . not much in the cases, the lights go much. i appreciate one of our most popular challenges is when we challenge pretty fatality, the former home secretary who's passing the time to kind of off shore refugees and migrants to lawanda for post testing. and we went to a fundraising dinner. she was hosting and disruptive that, that engaged in the and actually it wouldn't
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buyer or i think a lot of people looked at it and ask themselves why it's time to best talking about migrations. things like the rwanda times are just a distraction to get us to be angry at migrants. people who just want better lives and opportunities. instead of being angry at a political class that is just taking more and more from working people and giving us less than return is the your that is published in your mom is a rock a. so you were born and bred in the u. k. how did your family story and background check your, what would be? well, for my family, we were actually the only ones from both sides of the family to have her come to a western country. so i have most of my dads,
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how many living in georgia and on and exile and all of my mom's family we live in, get it right. so when you go pay with that kind of background, it's very difficult to not be political your way as a young person. what was your 1st kind of experience of activism and doing the type of work the day? so i was researching into my university and i said of the board quite divestment of sanctions campaign. got many students and academics on board and then later went on to replicate the other universities. and this really laid the foundations fault for what later was formed as part of sign action. the can you tell me a little bit about palestine action, what and they teach once it starts it. so how about an action?
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is there a direct talk soon? that what on our main focus on, i mean target is out, but systems which is as low as largest dom spend as specifically it was thought is because all of the i've been used to bring in and ball go between britain and is where i've had fails and 3 things through the political process, so late, but i specifically which i was involved in. and when every other route fails, then tie with action was to be left open for us. so we started off by initially storming into that headquarters in london. stay financing across the offices and kept going back again and again. and eventually mom, all people joins our, our network. so one of that must have factories and olds and was boss too. so i must have lost and they were forced to abandon that one that has cost is. so for us, we want to continue to grow with this movement until all of our big sites. so shut down in this country. can you explain why is chosen speak, some elvis systems may produce the vast majority of as well as military drone plays
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. we've seen how this is used on the cops of population of gauze. uh, routinely. they market them as possible tested or compact pre fun. and then use that to sell onto, or that rate james across the wells. they've been used it against the people of customers. for example, iraq, afghanistan, and many other places also against refugees here who were trying to seek safety in this country. they also build the electronics for the apartheid wall. the same system is being used between us and mexico. so we can see how it starts off in palestine. and as it is used against other people across the wells. can you explain exactly what risks you run yourself in order to carry this out? we were quite heavily targeted. i think at the start of palestine action, we saw that followed up by res. i'm on our homes, but the co found says include thing arresting. richard bonner's and of the co found the black come out and it was after that he said that he would go in hunger strike
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if the landlords did not fix out. but um they did continue to charge several of the squares that so were facing the charge the block. now ive cuz thursday to connect someone damage and since thursday to bug. oh, so i guess the rest it is kind of hard to the plan is not the ends of the process, but its, i'd say in the call process in itself is an extension of the action. and it's why we keep trying forces complaints to basically give out information that they would not normally give out. but you are running a real risk to and you know, status games presents. if this continues to operate, you know, more and more lives are going to be taken. and so i'm more than willing to accept f as in, as a consequence, i will still be a lot better off than most people who have to you at the end of these lessons. to kick things off, i just want to ask and then you can always gone through so many big changes.
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do you think that young people dissolution or do you think they all politically engaged? active, what's your opinion at the moment? i think both, i think young people are, does this illusion that i'm one of them? i'm but we are also political. i think we're in this period, we're actually social activism and social movement. i've never been more active and imagine it's heavy, but it's the political elite and you know, look toral politics that i think is what's the solution in young people because we have a electronical system in a voting system, not a is not representative it, but also puts people bold action, they want their economy to work for them in their communities. they want action on climate change. they want investment in our public services. the only reason we survived the pandemic were pete because of front line service workers. i thought we all agreed during the pandemic, that those are the people that should be at the heart of our communities. they are the people that we should be investing in. and the only reason that and bold action
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is because we still have in place political leaders who somehow haven't caught up with a consensus. the fact is that many young people are the summation with a political system. but i think a way more political than, than ever before because the political system, i mean like told politics has failed. so many people, and i think situation of call been and leave as well on a lot of young people into poly politics. and they felt like that was a very cool change. and when that didn't work for myself, at least it opened my ours to realizing that we cannot afford to invest our time into a system that wasn't designed for us. but that doesn't mean that there isn't ways that we can be politically active and change our society from the grassroots rather than through, appealing to the powers that be to create those changes for us. i mean, i would say that i don't see social movements being successful unless they have a political weight and so it's not about whole. so giving up on like toral,
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of them are politics. it's about trying to use the power of social movements from the grass roots to kind of course that change and we, we see it happening around the world actually enlighten america. we're seeing the hopes of that sort of political wing of progress, the politics starting to take power. you know, if you look at your life, for example, and while we had that defeat in 2019 with the carbon sleeper, i do see, you know, i'm pragmatic enough to see that there is another way into power. we just need to build stronger movements, a faithful climate change. it may be slightly different and you're right, you do needs a complete overhaul of the system, which will require the state and the government to get behind it. but i think when it comes to imperialism and politics and support of the policy and people, then jeremy colburn was an exception. i believe for what we've had for the past 100 years of successive governments, and no politician in this country has ever shut down an alms back today. whereas
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people have faith, if you'll naples, all quite young and they were funded around 2019, which was just the full, the cable pandemic. and then, you know, we've had the warranty crane when you look at one of those issues on the outside. how do you think they've impacted your what i'm, what you're trying to achieve. so we started at an interesting time in 2019. um, it was a time when it was kind of the kind of activism around climate change. i don't think i've ever seen before. you had, you know, extinction rebellion we had to climb the strikers. you have the u. k. announcing the 1st sort of net 0 target by 2050 in the world. and then early in 2020, a pandemic came, people are suddenly talking about government intervention. we're talking about investment instead of austerity. we're talking about building back a better and not going back to the economy pre pandemic. and coming out of the pandemic, we have the korean war, which put stressors across europe, particularly on energy supply. and what we saw was the u. k. a. now it's new north
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sea oil and gas. and that's put us in a really difficult position because investing a new fossil fuel infrastructure doesn't help us meet or meet our energy needs now . and it doesn't lower energy bills, but also just puts us in perpetual crisis because the climate crisis is not going anywhere. who the id feel about all of the big events that happen recent years and how that directly impacts what you're doing? yes, sir, for some context we launched at the end of july 2020 and then in may 2021. this has when we saw a through to install, people have gaza. people being forced out the homes and and jerusalem. and we saw a massive increase and people following and joining public time option and supporting the cause. during that time, there was a factory and full activities has climbed onto the top of the reef on south fox street in lesta and move in a couple of hours. hundreds from the local community came out support. it was like
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today. and then we saw the fire service pull out and says and refuses dates for the place that we will not meet these protesters. so for us, it was about go straight to these arms companies, specifically out but systems and bypassing the political process. and that strategy also expose the fact that this company exists here because many alms companies, they kind of hides in plain sight and these factories and industrial towns that you wouldn't know what this is was between that one. and the one next, all which bills toys for children. and we found it to be extremely successful where it was before we had never seen that type of success and fostering the closure of is really on the stock series in this country. 2022. so people across the u. k facing flooring place and on a rock with the rising cost of living prices that plus prices and strikes in $1.00
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industry after another proposal and transport work has to don't because annoyed so i want to know what break if you think about how far it is that you should be able to go to in terms of getting your points across. and i think it's different for different movements. so for the change started side is that right? and but so, so in order for them to gain the rights of mass salary and the device that they did serve as well, cuz then it's necessary for them to disrupt the tray line. i think paula said, action is quite different though to was extinction galleons tactics mainly because expansion volume is more focused on disrupting at the public as a whole as a way of posting pressure on the government in order to enact that they, they radical change. it needs on the climate where it was for us, we are more focused on directly disrupting the companies. we talk reducing weapons,
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so there was less impact on the public. i was, i was just, i just had the are usually about us on action. goes a step further than extinction. rebellion smashing up. yeah. conference rooms causing damage to the appropriate a. so how do you justify that? well, what is smashing off an honest company west? i think that ability to produce weapons and i think many people would agree that you kind of put a price on one human life. you can put a price on a window or a fax or a, a reef, for example. i'm not sure never come at the cost of human life if you saw a child with as a human being about to be high and you had to knock down it all in order to help them knock out the door without, without hesitation. and that's exactly the same principle. do you have anything that you would add? yeah, absolutely. i am a student of social movements and we often are to a white washed version of whether it's martin luther king or gandhi,
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or the women's rights movements. huge parts of those movements took direct action, not really did stop daily life going on for people are politicians. and so we're going to need movement set, take a variety of different actions. and the fact that we're in a day and age where we think striking workers are moving their labor as being extreme. well, who said we have a right over there, labor, right? if we're not creating a conditions that are fair for them to work and why should they not down there tools. and so i've been really inspired to see the union leaders that have been on our television articulating the fears and hopes of ordinary working people. in 2022, the u. k. government 40 and legislation to come. that would be as disruptive person now in the public or the bill. subbing for economy wants to introduce even hoster will. we will also increase a maximum penalty to disrupt the remote away. criminal,
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i think, is a fairly cheap infrastructure such as rows, railways, and our repressed. i'm here, so please, i'm the quote, new power. it's not a human rights design. do i? don't mind freedom of expression to protest finally? no, you just stop right? well, glue yourself to the rose and get away with it. the critics who these messages to threaten long standing democratic freedom, the governments, the they are needed because recent protest by minority of actually they've been dangerous training public funds. and so i've actually police resources. what do you think about these, even though isn't bills and they effect so how do you think it will impact the way you move forward? i think people embrace and for a long time is to thank the author are terry and is in was the domain of certain country is when actually, you know, britain has exercised it around the world for a long time. and now it's here at home and trying to curtail protests on one side.
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it shows that we're being impactful because actually the, the government is needing to legislate on specific types of protests. on the other hand, i think a lot of people are worried. i've just seen in spaces when we're talking about protests and thinking about the type of actions that we are planning these bills package are written they factor into who's willing to take these action. it is an incredibly hostile moment for our movements, but this is the moment we can let them when, because it becomes the new norm and then therefore we're unable to sort of cool back and you're right. so if we let that become something that's accepted today, you're running those rest already are running the risk of things and to present and how do you feel about all of this happening? because i'm all attack 6 already based on direct action. i'm over the criminalized, the new bills don't affect toes that much, but actually the more they try and repressed, i'm put on new laws and you bells,
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i think the more people actually moved to was more radical types of options. we saw recently at the end. so you monica, a protest, people coming investors for just starting slogans like who elected them. you can face the rest for that. then one of the rest for shutting down an honest company. i think that what they are, what they've done is go to and by clashing and help movements, what the government says that these bills are necessary. because guerrilla tactics used by small minority of pretest is of course, disproportionate impact on the hard watching majority seeking to go about that everyday lives. what do you make the argument? we looked at for the breakdown the climate and, and in order to get the message across that forced into a situation where they're forced into blocking the general public, then it's for the great to got. i think when people take more drastic action and response and wrong, and i'm blaming those activists, we have to blame the government who didn't act fast just to kind of illuminate
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a bit more we did. we did an action over the summer where we disrupted the hustings of the conservative party who were trying to choose their new leader and disrupted the speech of less trust. the reaction in that moment as i was being dragged away was like show the militants act to this, such as extinction, rebellion know, table to disrupt ordinary people who what caused the, the right thing. i guarantee what they want to create a situation where the government of the day decides what they think is fair, what they like. who are the good guys, who are the bad guys? democratic societies don't work like that. democratic societies are one that allows for there to be debate that allows for people to have different opinions for people to organize and help determine that their future. and we're slowly sort of looking
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away from that kind of society, them into one that's governed by a few. if you could take a step back and imagine the world that you want to see, what is it that you want to see the future like you like in the u. k. i one a, a future where we have, we're sort of democratic renee some, some people are able to be involved in decision making. and that decisions as a society are based on what benefit people and benefit planner over process. you know what the timeline of climate change wants to, gary? i think we have opportunity in this window to make sure that the way that we tackle the climate crisis is one that has just to set its heart. but there is a risk, right? i think governments will find a way to tackle climate change, but it's not secure that they're going to do it in a way that's fair. i think everyone now believes climate change exists and the main stream, the fight is over, how we tackle it. and we wanna make sure we tackle it in a way that protects our communities. what by you had, i mean your future that might involve time and present. and,
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but if you would kind of imagine that the seats that we're going to pay off, how would it look? well, i think the of the 1st $1.00 would be and i'm to as well as arms chase and written i've implemented people are rather proud as london was largest export yvonne's more of a tiny islands as are so much roots back to here. so if it has to be a must of overhauled of that whole industry for that kind of thinking and tactics to be transported to other countries. and then i believe, you know, hopefully within a lifetime we can see if we palestine before that to happen. we need sanctions and the governments aren't going to do it so the people have to do it themselves for the 1st month. thank you so much for speaking with me today.
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calling attention to any quality pollution meant extra disease. ok, and can he has low income communities site one brother was killed by police. they don't to fit the voices but the one past one day and organize that are on the
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record. how old are these people for the begun supplementing buffer, then it has been put on the bus that april gorbinko who brought in generation change. can you change is coming is no doubt about it on a dizzy to the latest news as a boeing a military response for situation, we mean fund nationwide with detailed coverage. it's only taking a few hours to turn the citrus trees into canals, rooms and isolated from around the world, showing by russian full series of the band and the surrounding countryside, causing fires like this in the forests virtually every day. a pod, huge, i mean to be used as the i r c suffered casualties. we have not suffered to scientology use. thank goodness we did have injuries from a missile strike on a guest house. thought provoking on to who that you say. no double standards to all
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of us. any anyone in particular? i said, all facing realities, government seems here to whittle down democracy. it's because it's troubling for you. it's very, very painful here. the story on talk to how does era, the israel continues this bombing of guns at least 25 ton this demands of entailed in the last few of the other ones are in georgia. this is all to 0 lights. and so coming up nearly 900 people have been arrested in the us as a student that movements against the war and does a sprites schools out in the philippines and extreme heat wave across spots of asia shows no sign of using the grunting humanitarian crisis into the fights to the
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