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it is in a series of most a shutdown roads that cross the border. rob mcbride is following developments himself. this seems to be another step by north korea to further permanently seal the border between north and south and also suffering any chances it seems a reconciliation. the south apparently detected at the signs of the mines being laid on this particular track at the end of last year. this is a track that accesses a hillside that was the scene of fighting during the korean war with a view to assuming the remains of soldiers full repacked creation. this was all part of a 2018 military agreement between north and south. it was signed when relations were improving on which is old, but a memory now as well as taking steps against this particular track. the north has also been taking measures to permanent. the c last 2 paved roads which had been used for cooperation projects going to the extent of actually removing street
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lighting from roads on its side of the boulder. meanwhile, the north is also being re establishing god posts which had been removed in recent years. with it seems the south of taking similar measures on its side of the bold old of this. it continues the policy old is a trend of the freezing relations between north and south with kim jong on making the it's his stated intention that there are no chances now of unification with the south run. the pride, i'll just say a wrestle scotlands 1st minister, how does the use of has announce he's stepping down. he was set to face 2 motions of know, confident, soft, a power shelling agreement collapse last week, spending the weekend, reflecting on what is best for my party, for the government, for the country i lead. i've concluded that repeating a relationship across the political divide can only be done with someone else at
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the hill. i have therefore informed us in peace, national secretary of my intention to stand the spotty leader and ask that she commences a leadership contest for my replacement. as soon as possible, and after the days of public speculation, springs, prime minister says he will not resign. federal sanchez says grains of corruption involving his wife had made him consider his position, his wife, they go into go, math is being investigated for alleged corruption. sanchez and says she is innocent and that is in use for now. analogy 0. that's it for me for the back to go. but to stay with us, my colleagues. so rahman will have the college. is there a news hour coming up for you? right after generation change? thanks for watching the on challenging the cost level ministry spending, as i said, all time high,
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one nation is racing to buy weapons. will western side machines impacts or runs ability to wage a war against israel? fuss? why it's what needs ancient city of venice is charging entry fees for the day trip to count you the cost on out of there, the very low carnes and public confrontation, young people across the u. k. a putting their bodies on the line to force the attention of the issues that might to that. meanwhile, the u. k. government is coming down approaches. it considered as disruptive and anti social with new rules and hostile consequences. welcome to generation change a global series attempts to understand and challenge the ideas that may applies youth around. well, today we meet to active. this is different methods to push and nobody's to change. whether it's direct action or engaging with the political system. they come pain or
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issues ranging from the climb emergency to mike or mike and the play belong straight. the says that to me you born in canada to somebody parents that you grew up here in london. what plenty to see to doctors and see what plans of the seed for me was growing up in the early 2, thousands of the backdrop of the rock floor everywhere you loved me, was talking about my firms and talking with people that looked like me. and i think that sold me with a lot of anger and kind of confusion and i became quite upset to politics if i didn't engage in that politics was definitely engaged with me in my identity and setting the terms and i did on that topic.
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i think these are familiar with the time climate crisis. so climate imagine the the you've spoken about climate justice. what do you mean when you talk about that for a long time? we've talked about climate change as an environmental issue, right. but climate change is a symptom. of a system not breaking down and not working and responsible for a lot of other injustices. so whether we're talking about racial injustice, whether we're talking about the housing crisis, or inequality at the heart of it is an economy that prioritize is profit and profit for the few. and then is pondering people on time. so we have the same companies who are responsible for the vast majority of emissions are also responsible for poor working conditions and low wages. those are responsible for not paying taxes and you have to pick up the bill people. so when we talk about climate justice,
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we talk about building a hopeful vision of the future. that means we can tackle other social injustices and the pursuit of timeframe. how much it will be. we would say that there are many climate movements of the name. it was a fight a against the climate crisis. say, where did you see a got a new organization? green you do rising in g and d rising. we haven't better than analysis of things that the climate movement hasn't necessarily gotten right. one of them is my time limit for a long time has been white and middle class. and we will know in order to be something as big as climate change, we need everyone. and so how do we include everyone's? what if we built an economy? that's the only priority was to serve people in panic. we would have an economy that invested in communities that built wells for communities that lived within planetary boundaries because we're investing in renewables and public con sparks. and that's what we're doing at greenville rising as we're talking about the green
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deal, which is an economic transformation that allows us to thrive in the future and tackle climate change. the other thing for different about what we're doing is for political or main tech tickets to find them keys and hold them accountable in terms of challenge them and filling them so that we have them on record. and when we put them on line, you know, it's up to the electorate to decide whether these people are for us and against us . there's not much traces, i like to go much. i appreciate one of our most popular challenges is when we challenge pretty fatality, the former home secretary who's passing the plans that kind of offshore refugees and my grades to lawanda for processing. and we went to a fundraising dinner. she was hosting an disruptive that, that engaged in the and actually it wouldn't buyer or i think a lot of people looked at it and ask themselves why it's time to this. talking about migrations, things like the rwanda times are just
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a distraction to get us to be angry at migrants. people who just gotten better lives in opportunities. instead of being angry at a political class that is just taking more and more from working people and giving us less than return the, the your, that is published in your mom is a rock a. so you were born and bred in the u. k. how did your family story and background check your, what would be? well, for my family, we were actually the only ones from both sides of the family to have her come to a western country. so i have most of my dads, how many living in georgia and on and exile and all of my mom's family we live in, get it right. so when you go past that kind of background,
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it's very difficult to not be political your way as a young person. what was your 1st kind of experience as active as i've been doing the type of work the day? so i was researching into my university and i said of the board quite divestment of sanctions campaign. got many students and academics on board and then later went on to replicate the other universities. and this really laid the foundations fault for what later was formed as part of sign action. the can you tell me a little bit about palestine action, what and they teach once it starts it. so how about an action? is there a direct talk soon? that what on our main focus on our main target is out, but systems which is as low as largest dom span. specifically, it was thought since, because all of the i've been used to bring in alms and ball go between bricks and
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is where i've had fails and clear things through the political process. so late. but i specifically which i was involved in as one of your other beach sales. then di, with action was to be left open for us. so we started off by initially storming into that headquarters in london. stay financing across the offices, and kept going back again. and again, and eventually mom, while people joined our, our network. so one of the mazda of factories and all of them was boss too. so i must have lost and they were forced to abandon that one that has courses. so for us, we want to continue to provide this movement until all of our big sites. so shut down in this country. can you explain why is chosen speak? some elvis systems may produce the vast majority of as well as military drone plates. we've seen how this is used on the cops of population of gauze uh, routinely. they market them as possible tested or come by proof and,
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and then use that to sell onto or that rate james across the wells. they've been used it against the people of customers. for example, iraq, afghanistan, and many other places also against refugees here who were trying to seek safety in this country. they also build the electronics for the apartheid wall. the same system is being used between us and mexico, so we can see how it starts off from palestine and others use against other people across the wells. can you explain exactly what risks you run yourself in order to carry this out? we were quite heavily targeted, i think at the start of palestine action, we saw that followed up by res. i'm on our homes. but the co found says include thing arresting. richard bonner's and of the co found the black came out and it was after that he said that he would go in hunger strike if the landlords did not fix out. but um they did continue to charge um several of the squares that so were facing the charge the block now cuz thursday to connect from the damage and since
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thursday to back on the guessing rest, it is kind of hard to the plan is not the ends of the process, but its, i'd say in the court, so is that in itself is an extension of the action. and is why we keep trying forced his complaints to basically give out information that they would not normally give out. but you are running a real risk ask and you know, status games presents. if this continues to operate, you know, more and more lives are going to be taken. and so i'm more than willing to accept f . as in, as a consequence, i will still be a lot better off than most people who have to you at the end of these lessons. to kick things off. i just want to ask in the u. k, we've gone through so many big changes. do you think that young people, disillusioned, or do you think they all politically engaged?
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active, what's your opinion at the moment? i think both i think young people are, does this illusion that i'm one of them? i'm but we are also political. i think we're in this period, we're actually social activism and social movement. i've never been more active and imagine it's heavy, but it's the political elite and you know, look toral politics that i think is what's the solution in young people because we have a electronical system in a voting system, not a is not representative it but also because people are bold action, they want their economy to work for them in their communities. they want action on climate change. they want investment in our public services. the only reason we survived the pandemic were pete because of the front line service workers. i thought we all agreed during the pandemic, that those are the people that should be at the heart of our communities. they are the people that we should be investing in. and the only reason that and bold action is because we still have in place political leaders who somehow haven't caught up with a consensus. the fact is that many young people are the solutions with
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a political system. but i think a way more political than, than ever before because the political system, i mean like told politics has failed. so many people, and i think a situation of call been and leave as well on a lot of young people into poly politics. and they felt like that was a very cool change. and when that didn't work for myself, at least it opened my ours to realizing that we cannot afford to invest our time into a system that wasn't designed for us. but that doesn't mean that there is a ways that we can be politically active and change our society from the grassroots rather than through, appealing to the powers that be to create those changes for us. i mean, i would say that i don't see social movements being successful unless they have a political weight and so it's not about whole. so giving up on like toral, of them or politics. it's about trying to use the power of social movements from the grass roots to kind of course that change and we,
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we see it happening around the world actually enlighten america. we're seeing the hopes of that sort of political wing of progress, the politics starting to take power. you know, if you look at your life, for example, and while we had that defeat in 2019 with the carbon sleeper, i do see, you know, i'm pragmatic enough to see that there is another way into power. we just need to build stronger movements, a faithful climate change. it may be slightly different and you're right, you do needs a complete overhaul of the system, which will require the state and the government to get behind it. but i think when it comes to imperialism and politics and support of the policy and people, then jeremy colburn was an exception. i believe for what we've had for the past 100 years of successive governments, and no politician in this country has ever shut down an alms back today. whereas people have faith, if you'll naples, all quite young and they were funded around 2019, which was just the full, the cable pandemic. and then, you know, we've had the warranty crane when you look at one of those issues on the outside.
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how do you think they've impacted your what i'm, what you were trying to achieve. so we started at an interesting time in 2019. um, it was a time when it was kind of the kind of activism around climate change. i don't think i've ever seen before. you had, you know, extinction rebellion we had to climate strikers. you have the u. k. announcing the 1st sort of net 0 target by 2050 in the world. and then early in 2020, a pandemic came, people are suddenly talking about government intervention. we're talking about investment instead of austerity. we're talking about building back a better and not going back to the economy pre pandemic. and coming out of the pandemic, we have the korean war, which put stressors across europe, particularly on energy supply. and what we saw was the u. k. a. now it's new north sea oil and gas. and that's put us in a really difficult position because investing a new fossil fuel infrastructure doesn't help us meet or meet our energy needs now
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. and it doesn't lower energy bills, but also just puts us in perpetual crisis because the climate crisis is not going anywhere. who do i, how do you feel about all of the big events that happened recent years and how that directly impacts what you're doing? yes, sir, for some context we launched at the end of july 2020 and then in may 2021. this has when we saw a due to the solar from the people of gaza, people being forced out the homes and and jerusalem. and we saw a massive increase and people following enjoining public time option and supporting the cause. during that time, there was a factory and full activities has climbed onto the top of the reef. all set fox 3 in less the and move in a couple of hours. hundreds from the local community came out support, it was ox today. and then we saw the fire service pull out and says, and refuse and say to the police that we will not meet these protesters. so for us,
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it was about going straight to these arms companies, specifically out but systems and bypassing the political process. and that strategy also expose the fact that this company exists here because many alms companies, they kind of hides in plain sight in these factories and industrial towns that you wouldn't know what this is as well as between that one and the one next, all which bills tories for children and we found it to be extremely successful where it was before we had never seen that type of success and fostering the closure of is really on the spot series in this country. 2022. so people across the u. k. facing flooring place and on a rock with the rising cost of living prices that plus prices and strikes in $1.00 industry after another proposal and transport work has to don't because annoyed so i want to know what break if you think about how far it is that you should be
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able to go to in terms of getting your points across, and i think it's different for different movements. so for the change strikes on is that bread and butter. so in order for them to gain the rights of mass salary and the device, so they deserve as well, cuz then it's necessary for them to disrupt the tray line. i think paula said, action is quite different though to was extinction galleons tactics mainly because expansion volume is more focused on disrupting at the public as a whole as a way of posting pressure on the government in order to enact that they, they radical change. it needs on the climate, whereas for us we are more focused on directly disrupting the companies we talk with using weapons. so that was less impact on the public. i was, i was just, i just had the are usually about us on action. goes a step further than extinction. rebellion smashing up. yeah. conference rooms
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causing damage to the appropriate a. so how do you justify that? well, what smashing up an honest company west, i think that ability to produce weapons and i think many people would agree that you kind of put a price on one human life. you can put a price on a window or a fax or a, a reef, for example. i'm not sure never come at the cost of human life if you saw a child with as a human being about to be high and you had to knock down it all in order to help them knock out the door without, without hesitation. and that's exactly the same principle. do you have anything that you would add? yeah, absolutely. i am a student of social movements and we often are to a white washed version of whether it's martin luther king or gandhi, or the women's rights movements. huge parts of those movements took direct action that really did stop daily life going on for people are politicians. and so we're
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going to need movement set, take a variety of different actions. and the fact that we're in a day and age where we think striking workers are moving their labor as being extreme. well, who said we have a right over there, labor, right? if we're not creating a conditions that are fair for them to work and why should they not down their tools? and so i've been really inspired to see the union leaders that have been on our television articulating the fears and hopes of ordinary working people. in 2022, the case of men, cruelty and legislation to combat you as disruptive person now in the public or the bill coming for economy wants to introduce even hoster will. we will also increase a maximum penalty to disrupt and remote away criminalized interference with team for structures such as roast railway and our repressed. i'm here so please, i'm the quotes, new power. it's not a human rights design do i?
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don't mind. freedom of expression to protest. finally. no, you just thought of right or glue yourself to the rose and get away with it. critics who these messages to threaten the long standing democratic freedom. the government says they are needed because recent protest by minority of actually they've been dangerous training public funds. and so i've asked the police resources, what do you think about these, even though isn't bills and they effect so have and do you think it will impact the way you move forward? i think people embrace and for a long time is to thank the author are terry and is in was the domain of certain country is when actually, you know, britain has exercised it around the world for a long time. and now it's here at home and trying to curtail protests on one side. it shows that we're being impactful because actually the, the government is needing to legislate on specific types of protests. on the other
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hand, i think a lot of people are worried. i've just seen in spaces when we're talking about protests and thinking about the type of actions that we are planning these bills package are written they factor into who's willing to take these action. it is an incredibly hostile moment for our movements, but this is the moment we can let them when, because it becomes the new norm and then therefore we're unable to sort of cool back and you're right. so if we let that become something that's accepted that are you running, those are still ready or running the risk of things and to present and how do you feel about all of this happening? because i'm all attack 6 already based on direct action. i'm over the criminalized . the new bills don't affect toes that much, but actually the more they try and repress, i'm put on new laws and you bells, i think the more people actually move towards more radical types of options. we saw recently at the end. so you monica, a protest, people coming investors for just shouting slogans like, who elected them,
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you can face the rest for that. then one of the rest is for shutting down an honest company. i think that what they are, what they've done is go to and buy flashing, and how are movements, what the government says that these bills are necessary. because guerrilla tactics used by small minority of pretest is of course, disproportionate impact. on the hod watching majority seeking to go about that everyday lives. what do you make the argument? we looked at for the breakdown the climate and, and in order to get the message across that forced into a situation where they're forced into blocking the general public. then it's for the great to got, i think when people take more drastic action and response and wrong and i'm blaming those activists. we have to blame the government who didn't act fast. just to kind of illuminate a bit more we did. we did an action over the summer where we disrupted the hustings of the conservative party who were trying to choose their new leader and disrupted
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the speech of less trust. the reaction in that moment as i was being dragged away was like show the militants act to this, such as extinction, rebellion know, table to disrupt ordinary people who what caused the, the right thing. i guarantee what they want to create a situation where the government of the day decides what they think is fair, what they like. who are the good guys, who are the bad guys? democratic societies don't work like that democratic societies or one that allows for there to be debate that allows for people to have different opinions for people to organize and help determine that their future. and we're slowly sort of looking away from that kind of society, them into one that's governed by a few. if you could take a step back and imagine the world that you want to see, what is it that you want to see the future like you like in the u. k. i one a,
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a future where we have, we're sort of democratic renee some, some people are able to be involved in decision making. and that decisions as a society are based on what benefit people and benefit plans over process. you know what the timeline of climate change wants to, gary? i think we have opportunity in this window to make sure that the way that we tackle the climate crisis is one that has just to set its heart. but there is a risk, right? i think governments will find a way to tackle climate change, but it's not secure that they're going to do it in a way that's fair. i think everyone now believes climate change exists and the main stream, the fight is over, how we tackle it. and we wanna make sure we tackle it in a way that protects our communities. what by you had, i mean your future that might involve time in prison and but if you would kind of imagine that the seats that we're going to pay off, how would it look? well i think the office 1st one would be and i'm to as well as arms chase and
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threaten. i've implemented people or rather, but i just wanted to was largest export yvonne's more of a tiny island as was so much roots back to here. so if it has a must of overhauled of that whole industry for that kind of thinking and tactics to be transported to other countries. and then i believe, you know, hopefully within our lifetime we can see if we palestine before that to happen. we need sanctions. i'm the government's own. going to do it so the people have to do it themselves. the 1st month. thank you so much for speaking with me today.
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calling attention to any quality pollution meant extra disease. ok and county has low income communities. silent brother was killed by police. they don't fit the voices but the one past one day and organize that are on the record. how old are these people for the begun supplementing buffer then it has been put on the bus that april gorbinko who brought in generation change. can you change is coming is
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no doubt about it on a dizzy to one of the biggest selections of 2024 in the general election will administer now render moody's b t p. increase its fruit across the country. how will economic uncertainty and you've some employment swaying, focused in key states? and will the media be able to cover the vote, reading and fairly ongoing coverage, but in the selections on out tuesday, around the colleges. when the now is the time to be direct, israel's project has been to completely conflict zionism and judy as a. but this was not a jew, israel's a state,
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and they need to be treated as any other state. what this is where the tough questions are as can you see negotiations being even half this is most important. which of these are going to and bushy hold unapologetic, i'm just asking awesome upfront on how to do the the hello and so robin, you are watching the all. does it renews online football headquarters here in the hall coming up in the next 60 minutes? regional lead as cold as rails planned to military operation in rafa to be stopped as a meets the us secretary of states inside of your baby is ready as far as i can at least 30 palestinians in johnson. most of them and the southern city of alpha, the students rally outside francis
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doable university in support of palestinians as riots. please move in declared the protest as plus mount from web.

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