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hello, i'm christian fraser. you're watching the context on bbc news. i refuse to quit. south carolina will vote on saturday. but on sunday, i'll still be running for president. i'm not going anywhere. we have to do what's good for our party, _ we have to do what's good for our party, and — we have to do what's good for our party, and she was up, but she's doing _ party, and she was up, but she's doing a _ party, and she was up, but she's doing a speech like she won. she didn't_ doing a speech like she won. she didn't win, — doing a speech like she won. she didn't win, she lost. joining us on our panel tonight is tara setmayer, a resident scholar at the uva's center for politics and former communication director for the republican party, and peter walker, political correspondent for the guardian.
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nikki haley says she won't drop out of the presidential bid even if she loses in south carolina. at the united nations security council, the united states again vetoes a draft resolution demanding an immediate humanitarian ceasefire in gaza. the world health organization says it's led high—risk missions to save critical patients from gaza's nasser hospital under siege from israel. good evening. the republican primary in south carolina is four days away, and were the state's former governor nikki haley to win it, it would probably be the biggest upset since buster douglas duffed up mike tyson. itjust ain't going to happen. the latest poll out today from usa today puts her almost 30 points behind donald trump, with an even slimmer chance ahead.
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even if haley reprised her modest success in new hampshire, in every state that is voting over the next four weeks, trump would still be over the threshold by march 19th, when the big states like florida, illinois and ohio hold their winner—take—all primaries. so, this afternoon, the speculation was growing that maybe a concession was in the offing — but not a bit of it. i hear from the american people, too. i hear from the american people, too that's — i hear from the american people, too. that's why i refuse to quit. south _ too. that's why i refuse to quit. south carolina will vote on saturday, but on sunday, i'll still be writing — saturday, but on sunday, i'll still be writing for president. i'm not going _ be writing for president. i'm not going anywhere. be writing for president. i'm not going anywhere-— and in case you don't believe her, her team provided new details this afternoon about plans post—south carolina. she's spending more than $500,000 on a new tv ad set to run in michigan tomorrow. and after sunday, she has a travel schedule that takes in nine states. the schedule includes at least ten high—dollar, private fundraising events.
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the truth is that, in spite of it all, haley is raising money at the fastest rate of her political career. so what is going on? (pres)lets speak to our panel , a resident scholar kara, what is going on? the biggest uift kara, what is going on? the biggest aift for her kara, what is going on? the biggest gift for her is _ kara, what is going on? the biggest gift for her is donald _ kara, what is going on? the biggest gift for her is donald trump - gift for her is donald trump continuing to attack her, which is canteen is continuing to do. you should evasively but bit —— basically ignore her and act as if he is the nominee, because i firmly believe there is no path from nikki haley. what's fuelling her is the fact that she's still able to raise money and everyone knows that money is gravely important in politics, and as long as their donors out there willing to fund her, she will stay in this race continue to control trump for as long as she possibly can. —— two
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troll trump. something between now and the convention, she gathers delegates, and they can make a move at the convention. this is what ted cruz tried to do last time around in 2016, and it failed miserably for him. ultimately, he acquiesced and supported donald trump, which i think is where nikki haley will end “p think is where nikki haley will end up in the end. think is where nikki haley will end up in the end-— up in the end. let's pick up one thou~ht up in the end. let's pick up one thought that — up in the end. let's pick up one thought that if _ up in the end. let's pick up one thought that if something - up in the end. let's pick up one i thought that if something happens up in the end. let's pick up one - thought that if something happens to him. peter, let me put the calendar on the screen for people. you'll understand what might be going on here. 0bviously, understand what might be going on here. obviously, you have understand what might be going on here. obviously, you have the understand what might be going on here. obviously, you have the south carolina primary. somewhere between that date and the republican national convention, we may get the start of the federal election interference case in washington. so, are they betting that at some point, his presidency or his nomination becomes untenable in the course of that two or three
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months? it doesn't give him much time. �* , ., �* , , months? it doesn't give him much time. �* , . �*, , ., time. i'm sure that's the bit, and when you're _ time. i'm sure that's the bit, and when you're that _ time. i'm sure that's the bit, and when you're that far— time. i'm sure that's the bit, and when you're that far behind, - time. i'm sure that's the bit, and when you're that far behind, all. when you're that far behind, all you've — when you're that far behind, all you've got _ when you're that far behind, all you've got to do is basically bank on something falling from the sky. i'm on something falling from the sky. in also_ on something falling from the sky. i'm also interested. i don't know what's _ i'm also interested. i don't know what's inside nikki haley's header why she's — what's inside nikki haley's header why she's doing it or will she will eventually— why she's doing it or will she will eventually pit it, but there some people _ eventually pit it, but there some pe0pie in— eventually pit it, but there some people in the republican party who see this _ people in the republican party who see this notjust in the classic political— see this notjust in the classic political terms, see this notjust in the classic politicalterms, but see this notjust in the classic political terms, but something more important _ political terms, but something more important than that. whether they is a party— important than that. whether they is a party should push back against this almost cold which has taken over the — this almost cold which has taken over the party and repelled this entirety— over the party and repelled this entirely unsuitable, narcissistic sociat— entirely unsuitable, narcissistic social path into power —— cults. i think— social path into power —— cults. i think it _ social path into power —— cults. i think it might also be a big principal— think it might also be a big principal whilst there is still a hope — principal whilst there is still a hope of— principal whilst there is still a hope of stopping this, that's something they perhaps want to do to try and _
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something they perhaps want to do to try and almost take it back. tara, in practical _ try and almost take it back. tara, in practical terms, _ try and almost take it back. tara, in practicalterms, doesn't - try and almost take it back. tara, i in practicalterms, doesn't matter? in practical terms, doesn't matter? he's putting on the people in terms of the committee. to all intents and purposes, he is the nominee. most of the sinister senators have —— most of the senators have come out in support of him. what does it on walk for him? ., �* , support of him. what does it on walk for him? . fl. ., , support of him. what does it on walk forhim? . �*_ ., , , for him? that's clearly the big ruestion for him? that's clearly the big question - _ for him? that's clearly the big question - what _ for him? that's clearly the big question - what is _ for him? that's clearly the big question - what is the - for him? that's clearly the big question - what is the point . for him? that's clearly the big | question - what is the point of question — what is the point of nikki haley staying in this other than for those who don't want to see donald trump win is to give a structure to those softer republicans who are uncomfortable with the path of the party. who vote for democrats or stay home. the prospect of a second donald trump term is unimaginable to many of us, and has an impact on the us around the world as well. we see donald
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trump praising putin and using the navalny murder as a way to complain about his own situation in the us. saying he wouldn't support nato. these are all things that are concerning at home and abroad. what it unlocks for him, it really wouldn't be any different. he is basically the proverbial nominee at this point, and he's raising money. the rmc has his people there soon and it's going to be an extension of his campaign. it really wouldn't change the calculus at all for him other than he can't help himself but to attack nikki haley because of his narcissism. i to attack nikki haley because of his narcissism. , , ,.,, to attack nikki haley because of his narcissism. , , ., ., , ., narcissism. i suppose, tara, if you were nikki — narcissism. i suppose, tara, if you were nikki haley _ narcissism. i suppose, tara, if you were nikki haley and _ narcissism. i suppose, tara, if you were nikki haley and submit - narcissism. i suppose, tara, if you were nikki haley and submit that i narcissism. i suppose, tara, if you i were nikki haley and submit that you are the alternative, bowing out now after new hampshire, you perhaps bring in the rest of the field back in iowa. but if you stay in longer all the way tojuly in iowa. but if you stay in longer all the way to july and in iowa. but if you stay in longer all the way tojuly and august, you were the second candidate, you are
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the obvious pick. is that somewhere in the calculus?— in the calculus? perhaps. i think it's difficult _ in the calculus? perhaps. i think it's difficult because _ in the calculus? perhaps. i think it's difficult because she - in the calculus? perhaps. i think it's difficult because she does i in the calculus? perhaps. i thinkl it's difficult because she does not have a coalition of other republicans, major republicans who primary voters actually listen to, backing her. the people who are backing her. the people who are backing her. the people who are backing her are few and far between and they're not people who the primary voters... she only represents a small portion of their current republican party. she's mainly being boosted by independence evenin mainly being boosted by independence even in her own home state of south carolina. it's independent and liberals who think she might has a shot. it is a difficult road and she constantly halfs to answer with what is your path, why are you doing this. but when donald trump makes comments like he has recently, particularly on foreign policy, it gives people hope that there is an alternative. but hope is not a
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strategy in politics. the alternative. but hope is not a strategy in politics.— alternative. but hope is not a strategy in politics. the one point that really matters,... _ in the poll that really matters, the one between the president and not—so—hypothetical nomination of donald trump — it is biden who is trailing. the president's support verges on anaemic. verges on anaemic to the point that concerns about his candidacy can no longer be written off as democratic "bed—wetting — which is strange when you compare their respective record. remember this is one of those rare elections in which both candidates have been president. and a survey of the presidential historians ranks president biden as the 14th best president in us history. the former president trump comes in last at number a5. 154 historians were consulted, they are current and recent members of the american political science association. they were asked to give each president a score from 0 to 100. justin vaughn is associate professor of political science at coastal carolina university and one of the two academics who conducted the presidential greatness project.
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i'v e i've never seen them scored before. what measures do you use to assess? that's a great question. we leave it up that's a great question. we leave it up to the assessment of the individual respondent. they're all experts on presidential politics and learn its dollars. but we don't prescribe a definition upfront —— learned scholars. instead, every scholar takes their own perspective. i think the general consensus has been those presidents who have led the nation through times of great crisis, who have expanded or evolved the institution of the presidency, who have played a heroic role in important moments, the ones we typically will associate with being great. typically will associate with being areat. �* ., ., , ., ,. great. i'm going to put on screen some ofjoe — great. i'm going to put on screen some ofjoe biden's _ great. i'm going to put on screen l some of joe biden's achievements. some ofjoe biden's achievements. what confuses a lot on the democratic side is that he finds it difficult to run on this record.
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it's quite an extensive record. there's plenty in that list that you should be able to build to come —— build a campaign on that score is quite high among the historians. why is he failing? i quite high among the historians. why is he failin: ? ~ quite high among the historians. why is he failing?— is he failing? i think... i agree that i is he failing? i think... i agree that i think — is he failing? i think... i agree that l think he _ is he failing? i think... i agree that i think he could _ is he failing? i think... i agree i that i think he could probably... not a very strong campaign on those issues that moderate voters are very pleased with. kind of polarising or hyper progressive, that would maybe alienate a moderate voter. i think maybe his inner campaign team believe that the best pitch he's got is still that he's not president trump. but it's not four years ago, when he was the candidate on the outside looking in. now he's the president with four years of record and probably beneficial to remind americans of what he's accomplished. there is a nostalgia would within
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the republican base for donald trump's presidency. they could probably say this was a stick shut from academia, politically biased. what would you say to that? i what would you say to that? i say that in surveys — what would you say to that? i say that in surveys like _ what would you say to that? i say that in surveys like this, - what would you say to that? i 3: that in surveys like this, people often kind of want to see how their quy often kind of want to see how their guy performs, and if they don't like how their favourite president or preferred partisan performs, they will view the survey as illegitimate. that's kind of a normal in terms of these exercises. i'll say that, while it can be simultaneously true that more democrats than republicans participate in these kinds of exercises, that they also are all professional scholars who i think most of the time, are wearing their scholar hat when they're filling out these surveys and not there partisan and political hat. let me bring in our panel. peter,
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the elephant in the room here is age. it's what nikki haley refers to when she talks about both candidates. do you think it is that that undermines all those achievements forjoe biden that would put on the screen? i achievements forjoe biden that would put on the screen? i think that is a big _ would put on the screen? i think that is a big element _ would put on the screen? i think that is a big element to - would put on the screen? i think that is a big element to it, - would put on the screen? i think that is a big element to it, and l would put on the screen? i think that is a big element to it, and i | that is a big element to it, and i think— that is a big element to it, and i think it's — that is a big element to it, and i think it's a — that is a big element to it, and i think it's a fact that his delivery can he — think it's a fact that his delivery can be slightly halting almost. he's -ot can be slightly halting almost. he's got a _ can be slightly halting almost. he's got a very— can be slightly halting almost. he's got a very slight speech impediment, which _ got a very slight speech impediment, which can— got a very slight speech impediment, which can effectively talk. i've seen — which can effectively talk. i've seen him _ which can effectively talk. i've seen him deliver a press conference on a receipt — seen him deliver a press conference on a receipt sunak visit last year, and it— on a receipt sunak visit last year, and it was— on a receipt sunak visit last year, and it was interesting watching him in the _ and it was interesting watching him in the flesh flash. —— rishi sunak. ithink— in the flesh flash. —— rishi sunak. i think viewers in the uk don't often — i think viewers in the uk don't often get _ i think viewers in the uk don't often get to see that good part of hint _ often get to see that good part of hint but— often get to see that good part of him. but there's enough if memory could _ him. but there's enough if memory could he _ him. but there's enough if memory could he a — him. but there's enough if memory could be a problem. you have to
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essentially... gerontocracy, almost, of someone — essentially... gerontocracy, almost, of someone in their late 705 and even _ of someone in their late 705 and even older— of someone in their late 705 and even older backing out of the most important — even older backing out of the most importantjob of the even older backing out of the most important job of the world. it even older backing out of the most importantjob of the world. it is slightly— importantjob of the world. it is slightly 5trange for importantjob of the world. it is slightly strange for people watching from outside, thinking in the uk. peopie _ from outside, thinking in the uk. people don't necessarily follow us politics _ people don't necessarily follow us olitics. ., ., , people don't necessarily follow us olitics. . . , ., , politics. tara, i remember early in my career— politics. tara, i remember early in my career covering _ politics. tara, i remember early in my career covering corruption - my career covering corruption allegations facing the former french president, and when he got to the court case later, the sort of nostalgic roof for the president and what he represented. there was a sort of revision about what he represented. is there an element within the republican base when you thing about donald trump? i within the republican base when you thing about donald trump?— thing about donald trump? i don't know if it's — thing about donald trump? i don't know if it's a _ thing about donald trump? i don't know if it's a nostalgia _ thing about donald trump? i don't know if it's a nostalgia for- thing about donald trump? i don't know if it's a nostalgia for donald l know if it's a nostalgia for donald trump _ know if it's a nostalgia for donald trump and — know if it's a nostalgia for donald trump and the _ know if it's a nostalgia for donald trump and the way— know if it's a nostalgia for donald trump and the way he _ know if it's a nostalgia for donald trump and the way he read - know if it's a nostalgia for donald trump and the way he read his. trump and the way he read his presidencv _ trump and the way he read his presidency. some _ trump and the way he read his presidency. some people - trump and the way he read his presidency. some people feell trump and the way he read his. presidency. some people feel as though— presidency. some people feel as though the — presidency. some people feel as though the economy _ presidency. some people feel as though the economy was - presidency. some people feel as though the economy was betterl presidency. some people feel as- though the economy was better under donald _ though the economy was better under donald trump, — though the economy was better under donald trump, despite _ though the economy was better under donald trump, despite all— though the economy was better under donald trump, despite all the - though the economy was better under donald trump, despite all the chaos. donald trump, despite all the chaos and att— donald trump, despite all the chaos and all of— donald trump, despite all the chaos and all of the — donald trump, despite all the chaos and all of the other— donald trump, despite all the chaos and all of the other things _ donald trump, despite all the chaos and all of the other things that - and all of the other things that were _ and all of the other things that were pretty— and all of the other things that were pretty significant, -
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and all of the other things that l were pretty significant, including him inciting _ were pretty significant, including him inciting an— were pretty significant, including him inciting an insurrection. - were pretty significant, including him inciting an insurrection. the| him inciting an insurrection. the fact that — him inciting an insurrection. the fact that there's _ him inciting an insurrection. the fact that there's an _ him inciting an insurrection. the fact that there's an entire - fact that there's an entire right-wing _ fact that there's an entire right—wing ecosystem - fact that there's an entire . right—wing ecosystem that's fact that there's an entire - right—wing ecosystem that's trying to whitewash _ right—wing ecosystem that's trying to whitewash history— right—wing ecosystem that's trying to whitewash history about - right—wing ecosystem that's tryingl to whitewash history about trump's wall to whitewash history about trump's wait and _ to whitewash history about trump's wait and how— to whitewash history about trump's wall and how coordinated _ to whitewash history about trump's wall and how coordinated it - to whitewash history about trump's wall and how coordinated it was, i wall and how coordinated it was, it'5 wall and how coordinated it was, it's pretty— wall and how coordinated it was, it's pretty extraordinary. - wall and how coordinated it was, it's pretty extraordinary. i'm i wall and how coordinated it was, it's pretty extraordinary. i'm not| it's pretty extraordinary. i'm not surprised — it's pretty extraordinary. i'm not surprised that _ it's pretty extraordinary. i'm not surprised that donald _ it's pretty extraordinary. i'm not surprised that donald trump i it's pretty extraordinary. i'm not i surprised that donald trump would be able to— surprised that donald trump would be able to last _ surprised that donald trump would be able to last in — surprised that donald trump would be able to last in that _ surprised that donald trump would be able to last in that survey _ surprised that donald trump would be able to last in that surveyjust - able to last in that surveyjust based — able to last in that surveyjust based off— able to last in that surveyjust based off his _ able to last in that surveyjust based off his behaviour- able to last in that surveyjust based off his behaviour and i able to last in that surveyjust. based off his behaviour and the able to last in that surveyjust i based off his behaviour and the big lie about— based off his behaviour and the big lie about the — based off his behaviour and the big lie about the court _ based off his behaviour and the big lie about the court fraudulent i lie about the court fraudulent eiection— lie about the court fraudulent election of— lie about the court fraudulent election of 2020 _ lie about the court fraudulent election of 2020 would - lie about the court fraudulent election of 2020 would be i lie about the court fraudulent i election of 2020 would be enough lie about the court fraudulent - election of 2020 would be enough to follow _ election of 2020 would be enough to follow the _ election of 2020 would be enough to follow the qualify _ election of 2020 would be enough to follow the qualify him _ election of 2020 would be enough to follow the qualify him to _ election of 2020 would be enough to follow the qualify him to be the i follow the qualify him to be the worst _ follow the qualify him to be the worst president _ follow the qualify him to be the worst president in _ follow the qualify him to be the worst president in history. i5. follow the qualify him to be the i worst president in history. is there and -- _ worst president in history. is there and -- a _ worst president in history. is there and —— a nostalgia? _ worst president in history. is there and —— a nostalgia? how— worst president in history. is therei and —— a nostalgia? how disastrous or democracy— and —— a nostalgia? how disastrous or democracv his _ and —— a nostalgia? how disastrous or democracy his presidency - and —— a nostalgia? how disastrous or democracy his presidency was i and —— a nostalgia? how disastrous. or democracy his presidency was and what he _ or democracy his presidency was and what he is _ or democracy his presidency was and what he is claiming _ or democracy his presidency was and what he is claiming he _ or democracy his presidency was and what he is claiming he would - or democracy his presidency was and what he is claiming he would like i or democracy his presidency was and what he is claiming he would like toi what he is claiming he would like to do, what he is claiming he would like to do. this— what he is claiming he would like to do, this dictator— what he is claiming he would like to do, this dictator nonsense - what he is claiming he would like to do, this dictator nonsense and i do, this dictator nonsense and reorganising _ do, this dictator nonsense and reorganising the _ do, this dictator nonsense and reorganising the federal- reorganising the federal bureaucracy. _
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reorganising the federal bureaucracy. these i reorganising the federal bureaucracy. these arei reorganising the federal. bureaucracy. these are all reorganising the federal- bureaucracy. these are all things that are — bureaucracy. these are all things that are not _ bureaucracy. these are all things that are not good _ bureaucracy. these are all things that are not good for _ bureaucracy. these are all things that are not good for our - bureaucracy. these are all things i that are not good for our democracy. do you _ that are not good for our democracy. do you think— that are not good for our democracy. do you think in — that are not good for our democracy. do you think in spite _ that are not good for our democracy. do you think in spite of— that are not good for our democracy. do you think in spite of the - that are not good for our democracy. do you think in spite of the pole, i do you think in spite of the pole, when the two records are put side by side, that is whenjoe biden might just come to the fore? side, that is when joe biden might just come to the fore? absolutely. you have to _ just come to the fore? absolutely. you have to understand _ just come to the fore? absolutely. you have to understand the - just come to the fore? absolutely. i you have to understand the american peopie _ you have to understand the american peopie are _ you have to understand the american peopte are not — you have to understand the american peopte are not paying _ you have to understand the american people are not paying attention i you have to understand the american people are not paying attention the l people are not paying attention the way we _ people are not paying attention the way we are — people are not paying attention the way we are right _ people are not paying attention the way we are right now. _ people are not paying attention the way we are right now. usually, i people are not paying attention the way we are right now. usually, the| way we are right now. usually, the us citizen— way we are right now. usually, the us citizen really— way we are right now. usually, the us citizen really doesn't _ way we are right now. usually, the us citizen really doesn't pay- us citizen really doesn't pay attention— us citizen really doesn't pay attention until— us citizen really doesn't pay attention until after- us citizen really doesn't pay attention until after labour. us citizen really doesn't pay- attention until after labour day, the final— attention until after labour day, the final 90 _ attention until after labour day, the final 90 days _ attention until after labour day, the final 90 days or— attention until after labour day, the final 90 days or so - attention until after labour day, the final 90 days or so of the i the final 90 days or so of the election _ the final 90 days or so of the election. when _ the final 90 days or so of the election. when they- the final 90 days or so of the election. when they realise i the final 90 days or so of the| election. when they realise it the final 90 days or so of the i election. when they realise it is a trinary— election. when they realise it is a binary choice _ election. when they realise it is a binary choice between _ election. when they realise it is a binary choice between joe - election. when they realise it is a binary choice betweenjoe biden,| election. when they realise it is a i binary choice betweenjoe biden, who happens _ binary choice betweenjoe biden, who happens to— binary choice betweenjoe biden, who happens to he — binary choice betweenjoe biden, who happens to he a— binary choice betweenjoe biden, who happens to be a little _ binary choice betweenjoe biden, who happens to be a little old, _ binary choice betweenjoe biden, who happens to be a little old, but- binary choice betweenjoe biden, who happens to be a little old, but has- happens to be a little old, but has for testing — happens to be a little old, but has for testing record _ happens to be a little old, but has for testing record as _ happens to be a little old, but has for testing record as president, i for testing record as president, doesn't — for testing record as president, doesn't want _ for testing record as president, doesn't want under— for testing record as president, doesn't want under democracyl for testing record as president, - doesn't want under democracy versus uttra~ _ doesn't want under democracy versus uttra~ i_ doesn't want under democracy versus uttra~ ithink— doesn't want under democracy versus ultra. i think the _ doesn't want under democracy versus ultra. i think the american _ doesn't want under democracy versus ultra. i think the american people i ultra. i think the american people will realise — ultra. i think the american people will realise that _ ultra. i think the american people will realise that the _ ultra. i think the american people will realise that the age _ ultra. i think the american people will realise that the age issue i ultra. i think the american people will realise that the age issue is l will realise that the age issue is not as_ will realise that the age issue is not as important _ will realise that the age issue is not as important as _ will realise that the age issue is not as important as making - will realise that the age issue is| not as important as making sure will realise that the age issue is - not as important as making sure our democracy— not as important as making sure our democracy survives. _ not as important as making sure our democracy survives. like _ not as important as making sure our democracy survives.— democracy survives. like you should ask ou democracy survives. like you should ask you what — democracy survives. like you should ask you what your _ democracy survives. like you should ask you what your top _ democracy survives. like you should ask you what your top three - ask you what your top three presidents were. who can talk? abraham lincoln, number one. naturally! laughter
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what would be a statistical tie probably, but franklin delano roosevelt came in number two. just a little smidge ahead of george washington. those three are the top three, but fdr in washington have finally beenjoshing it —— have been kind ofjostling for number two. number ten after lbj. thank you for coming of the programme, justin. my coming of the programme, justin. m pleasure. around the world and across the uk. you're watching bbc news. let's look at some other stories making news. the chief inspector of borders and immigration, david neal, has been sacked. a home office statement said he had breached the terms of his appointment. it comes after he was quoted in a publication which says the uk border force failed to check the occupants of hundreds of private
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jets arriving last year. mr neal's contract had been due to expire next month. the sentence of the man found guilty of stabbing three people to death in nottingham last year is to be reviewed. valdo calocane was given an indefinite hospital order on the basis of diminished responsibility. the attorney general, victoria prentis, said the sentence was "unduly lenient". relatives of the victims have welcomed the announcement. the national trust is reopening the farne islands, off the northumberland coast, to visitors for the first time in two years. the bird sanctuary is home to around 200,000 seabirds, including puffins and arctic terns. it had been closed because of an outbreak of avian flu. you're live with bbc news. some breaking news. two men have been charged with murder in connection with the shooting in kansas city. that killed one person and wounded 22 others — following an event to mark kansas city chiefs becoming
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super bowl champions. let's go to tom bateman, our washington correspondent. two people charged with murder, tom. this has just two people charged with murder, tom. this hasjust come two people charged with murder, tom. this has just come from the prosecutor in jackson prosecutor injackson county, missouri, jean baker, who announced two men charged with second degree murder. their names are dominic miller and lyndell mays, with armed criminal action and unlawful use of a weapon. it was nearly a week ago that the news began to break of a shooting at the super bowl victory parade. there was a shoot—out next to very busy part of the furry. what has happened was police now say 22 people and one woman killed —— 22
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injured and one woman killed. the youngest was eight years old. two people charged with second degree murder. another two juveniles people charged with second degree murder. another twojuveniles have been charged with gun related offences. they have not been identified. as to what happens next, the chargers will be prosecuted from this point —— the charges. at least half of those were children, but eight were critically wounded. several remain in hospital and we await further details as to their condition.— and we await further details as to their condition. ., �* . ., ., ~ their condition. tom bateman, thank ou ve their condition. tom bateman, thank you very much- _ the world health organization said today that it has led two "high—risk" missions to save 32 critical patients, including two children, from gaza's nasser hospitalfrom gaza's nasser hospital in recent days. it's surrounded by destroyed buildings, "with no stretch of intact road".
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130 patients and at least 15 doctors and nurses remain in the hospital. the pressure for a humanitarian ceasefire is mounting, and in washington, the mood has certainly shifted. the americans again vetoed a call for a permanent ceasefire today, but they have circulated their own draught within the security council, that calls for a six—week �*temporary�* ceasefire. not entirely different you might think from its previously—held position — but within that resolution is condemnation of israeli settlement activity, a rejection of the idf�*s plans for a buffer zone, and a warning that any advance into rafah would result in further harm to civilians. there's also been a change in direction for labour. as pressure mounts from his backbenchers, keir starmer is now backing a call for an immediate humanitarian ceasefire. hoping to stave off a mass labour rebellion, ahead of a crunch vote in the commons wednesday brought by the snp. their motion calls for a permanent ceasefire. here is the opposition leader at a scottish labour conference in glasgow on sunday
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an end to the fighting notjust now, notjust— an end to the fighting notjust now, notjust for— an end to the fighting notjust now, notjust for a pause, but permanently. a cease—fire that lasts _ permanently. a cease—fire that lasts that _ permanently. a cease—fire that lasts. that is what must happen now. the fighting _ lasts. that is what must happen now. the fighting must stop now. it's a problem politically, as it is forjoe biden. there are 16 crucial electoral college votes in michigan. a swing state thatjoe biden won in 2020 biden, but by only 150k votes. there are over 300,000 arab americans who live in michigan. arab americans who live in michigan, some of whom have launched an "abandon biden" campaign. let's speak to aaron miller, a senior fellow at the carnegie endowment for international peace and former state department middle middle east analyst. do you get a sense right now that the white house is trying to find a way forjoe biden to pass this? it
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is becoming a major problem for him in the campaign. is becoming a ma'or problem for him in the campaign.— in the campaign. yeah. i think the administration's _ in the campaign. yeah. i think the administration's looking _ in the campaign. yeah. i think the administration's looking for- administration's looking for balance, but we're five months into this war. the president has demonstrated support for the idea of israel and the people of israel and the security of israel. i don't see that fundamentally changing unless the israelis do something so egregious and out of bounds that forces the president's hand. american presidents, and i've worked for both sides, don't usually like to fight and have sustained public conversations. it's awkward, it's messy, it's literally costly and in most cases, not all, it usually proves to be counterproductive. so, i don't predict a break between netanyahu and biden for one simple reason. one fundamental fact rests on — can the us broker and an
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agreement between israel and hamas that leads to a period of extended quiet, de—escalation of the military action? and freeing the hostages. if the us cannot produce that, you might as well hang a closed for the season sign on british policy as well as us policy. and for that, mr biden needs mr netanyahu and war cabinets agreement. you biden needs mr netanyahu and war cabinets agreement.— cabinets agreement. you can argue whether or — cabinets agreement. you can argue whether or not _ cabinets agreement. you can argue whether or not he _ cabinets agreement. you can argue whether or not he has _ cabinets agreement. you can argue whether or not he has any - cabinets agreement. you can argue whether or not he has any levers i whether or not he has any levers over netanyahu policy, but ultimately it falls to hamas. it doesn't stop until the hostages come out. i doesn't stop until the hostages come out. ~ ., �* . doesn't stop until the hostages come out. ~ . �*,'::::h doesn't stop until the hostages come out. ~ .�*,'::::f �*, out. i think that's 100% right. it's almost unimaginable _ out. i think that's 10096 right. it's almost unimaginable to - out. i think that's 10096 right. it's almost unimaginable to consider| almost unimaginable to consider a day after or the day after the day after with hamas holding 134 israelis, 30 of whom either died on october the 7th, their bodies taken to trade to gaza or died in
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captivity. it's unimaginable that anything of positive consequence is going to happen until those hostages are freed, and probably in an asymmetrical trade which will force the israelis to free, i would say, ten times the number of hostages that they're going to redeem. peter, in response to the prince of wales intervention today, downing street said all the uk needs to be on the same page, all leaders need to speak to the same song sheet. do you get the sense tomorrow that that will be the case? in you get the sense tomorrow that that will be the case?— will be the case? in one sense, yes, in one sense. _ will be the case? in one sense, yes, in one sense. no- — will be the case? in one sense, yes, in one sense, no. in _ will be the case? in one sense, yes, in one sense, no. in the _ will be the case? in one sense, yes, in one sense, no. in the first - in one sense, no. in the first sentence. _ in one sense, no. in the first sentence, most political parties are shifting _ sentence, most political parties are shifting towards a smilar—ish point
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of view _ shifting towards a smilar—ish point of view. they don't want the rafah invasion— of view. they don't want the rafah invasion to — of view. they don't want the rafah invasion to take place. you could call all_ invasion to take place. you could call all sorts of region —— issues —— similar—ish. it's also going to be —— similar—ish. it's also going to he very— —— similar—ish. it's also going to be very political in the sense that this is— be very political in the sense that this is a _ be very political in the sense that this is a scottish national party motion — this is a scottish national party motion and labour want to amended. but the _ motion and labour want to amended. but the government also wants to put an amendment on, too. both the snp and the _ an amendment on, too. both the snp and the government are seemingly trying _ and the government are seemingly trying to— and the government are seemingly trying to exploit the divisions that labour— trying to exploit the divisions that labour have on their front bench. so, labour have on their front bench. so. they— labour have on their front bench. so, they don't really know, you know — so, they don't really know, you know it's_ so, they don't really know, you know... it's quite a partisan thing. it know... it's quite a partisan thing. it could _ know... it's quite a partisan thing. it could go— know... it's quite a partisan thing. it could go quite badly wrong, and there _ it could go quite badly wrong, and there is— it could go quite badly wrong, and there is a — it could go quite badly wrong, and there is a worry that quite a number of feelings— there is a worry that quite a number of feelings are getting so high, we've — of feelings are getting so high, we've had a protest outside mps' offices _ we've had a protest outside mps' offices i— we've had a protest outside mps' offices. i think there's a desire to
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try andm — offices. i think there's a desire to try and- - -— try and... we will watch that closely tomorrow. _ try and... we will watch that closely tomorrow. sorry - try and... we will watch thatj closely tomorrow. sorry dick try and... we will watch that - closely tomorrow. sorry dick squeeze you tonight, but we'll be right back up you tonight, but we'll be right back up to this. stay with us. —— sorry to squeeze you. hello there. the next couple of days look pretty unsettled. we'll see two areas of low pressure moving in, bringing wet and windy weather to our shores. could see some issues with localised flooding in places as the ground is already so saturated. but one thing noticeable for the next few days, despite the wind and the rain, it will stay very mild before things turn colder from thursday onwards. now, through tonight, that wet, windy, milderweather spreads its way northwards. but initially, ahead of that rain, it will turn quite cold across some northern and eastern areas. a touch frost perhaps for northeast scotland, but temperatures recovering — nine or ten degrees across southern and western areas by the end of the night. and here it is, this area of low pressure, a fairly deep feature with quite a few isobars on the chart indicating windy weather with gales certainly around coasts of
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irish sea coasts, northern and eastern parts of scotland could see the strongest gusts. the rain splashing its way eastward through the morning. into the afternoon, starts to push out into the north sea. skies brighten up behind it, but it does remain blustery for all areas. some showers running into northern and western scotland, but it will hang back, i think, across eastern england with regards to the cloud and the rain. but these temperatures again above the seasonal norm — 11—13 celsius. as we head through wednesday night, it's dry for a time. then we see another area of low pressure gathering force out west. it'll bring a band of showery rain into northern and western areas. that rain starts to pep up, begins to cross england and wales. again, a fairly mild night to come across the south, something a bit cooler working its way into northern and western areas. that's a sign of things to come as we head through thursday. as this low pressure system, with its heavy rain and strong winds across the south, spreads across the country and pushes on in towards the north sea, it starts to open the floodgates to a much colder west—northwestly. that's when you can see that's evident here with the blue colours,
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not particularly very cold, but certainly colder than what we've had over the last week or so. so, a rather unsettled, wet day to come, i think, for much of the country, certainly england and wales on thursday, windy in the south. as the rain pulls away, the colder air starts to move in, so those showers begin to turn wintry over the higher ground of northern and western hills. and notice the temperatures as well — it will be noticeable, 5—9 degrees. factor in the wind, it'll feel colder than that. it stays fairly unsettled into the weekend. sunshine and showers again, these wintry over northern sunshine and showers, again, these wintry over northern and western hills and nights will be turning colder with some frost.
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