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destroyed a compound had destroyed a compound inferior, earlierthis had destroyed a compound inferior, earlier this month, allegedly. us president biden has spoken with the israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu by phone and the white house released a statement from president biden saying they condemn the attacks. he also said he will convene g7
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leaders to co—ordinate a united diplomatic response to iran's brazen attack. here's what we know about the situation in israel at the moment. israel's military says some restrictions have been lifted. forces have told the bbc that some restrictions have been lifted on movement inside israel, but did not provide futher detail. israeli media says israelis nationwide no longer need to stay near shelters. air sirens sounded in multiple locations in israel earlier. there were explosions over jerusalem, according to witnesses. israeli media say they are from aerial interceptions. israel's defence forces say one 10—year—old girl has been injured so far and that light damage was caused to a military base.
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we do not have details of which base. the idf�*s spokesman says the injured girl is being treated by paramedics. and this is the view right now ofjerusalem. there are reports from witnesses on the ground there of explosions and sirens sounding. explosions. sirens wail. multiple sirens wail. as you can hear, sirens sounding in a loud explosion and he may have been able to see flashes in the night sky above the city. this was from
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our live position injerusalem hours ago. earlier, we heard from daniel hagari, spokesperson for the israel defence forces. iran has launched a direct attack from iranian soil towards the state of israel. tonight, iran launched a large—scale co—ordinated attack on israel. the regime in iran fired a massive swarm, over 200 killer drones, cruise missiles and ballistic missiles, towards the state of israel. together with our allies and partners across the region, we are operating at this very moment to defend israel from iran's attack. so far, we have intercepted a vast majority of incoming missiles by israeli systems. so far, we have intercepted and are continuing to intercept dozens of attack drones as well as cruise missiles and ballistic missiles outside of israel's border. a number of iranian missiles fell inside israeli territory, causing minor damage to a military base with no casualties.
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only one little girl has been hurt, and we hope she will be well. the iranian attack is ongoing. our plans are in the air. tonight, a wide—scale attack by iran is a major escalation. together with our allies and partners, we are operating at full force to defend the state of israel and the people of israel. we will continue to fulfil this mission.
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ambassador to the un from israel has said in a letter to the security council, this is part of a dangerous trend of deterioration and the gravity and volume of the attacks are unprecedented and a fragrant invasion of the un security council resolution. antonio guterres said that he called for an immediate cessation of hostilities. we have been talking through that the course of the night and what is the country well — just waking up to, james lansdale?_ just waking up to, james lansdale? , . ., ~ , ., lansdale? they are waking up to an uneasy _ lansdale? they are waking up to an uneasy dawn, _ lansdale? they are waking up to an uneasy dawn, in _ lansdale? they are waking up to an uneasy dawn, in israel, - an uneasy dawn, in israel, lighting up the capital city,
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jerusalem, and waking up to the reality that in the first time many can remember, israel has been subject to a direct attack by its long—term flow, iran. for many many years there has been a conflict but it has been one of one removed where iran has used its proxy forces are militias and other people in the region to attack in the region. very rarely, actually going out into the open and attacking israel openly because the potential risks that may involve. iran, overnight, has taken that risk of huge escalation in this conflict and as far as we can tell so far the maximum number of missiles and drones fired, at the moment the officialfigure is and drones fired, at the moment the official figure is about 200. i would expect that to rise. the israeli authorities
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are saying most of those missiles and drones were intercepted outside of israel, meaning israel has had a huge amount of help and support from its allies this night, to protect it. i think the interesting question this morning will be how that support is leveraged into diplomacy. you have heard just now there will be a meeting of the un security council today, president biden said he wants to convene a meeting of g7 allies. i think they will try to use those opportunities to bolster support for israel, because israel, having been very criticised for the way it has been behaved in gaza over the last six months, but this morning, it is the victim of an attack and i think its allies want to exploit that, not just
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to try to rally support for israel and put pressure on iran, but also to try and restrain israel. because the question now facing israeli policy makers will be how do they respond to these attacks and how do they do that in a proportionate way, and i think the allies of israel and others in the region will want that to be as measured and calibrated and limited as possible. what and limited as possible. what is the day _ and limited as possible. what is the day ahead _ and limited as possible. what is the day ahead now - and limited as possible. what is the day ahead now look - and limited as possible. what is the day ahead now look like for ordinary israelis, going about their business? when we are in a new reality where what you have called a shadow war, now appears have potentially become a war. what does that mean for them?— mean for them? they will be wakin: mean for them? they will be waking up. _ mean for them? they will be waking up. they _ mean for them? they will be waking up, they will- mean for them? they will be waking up, they will be - mean for them? they will be | waking up, they will be going to work. this is sunday morning, the start of the week in israel. they will be
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carrying their mobile phones with them with their civil defence alert at the ready, in case there is any further attack. remember, it is coming up attack. remember, it is coming up to passover, not all of the schools are open but last night the civil authorities announced that all educational activities, trips, camps, they would be cancelled. the government has also banned any mass gathering of people, more than 1000 people, presumably because that would present too much of a target. that means there will be constraints on any demonstrations that may have been planned, certainly any mass gatherings, concerts, football matches, things like that. life will be different, i think. ithink that. life will be different, i think. i think israel this morning is waking up to a new reality, a more dangerous reality, a more dangerous reality, where we are still not entirely sure how this
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escalator react by iran will play out what it means by the region. play out what it means by the reuion. �* ., �* ~' ., region. and we don't know whether— region. and we don't know whether they _ region. and we don't know whether they would - region. and we don't know whether they would take i region. and we don't know| whether they would take us region. and we don't know - whether they would take us and to be perfectly frank but in terms of a potential response from israel, what might we see? israel has military capacity to hit back against iran. i imagine there will be some pressure within, by policymakers to respond like with like. not to target iran's allies, proxy supporters, but to attack iran proper. they may want to make sure any attack is calibrated on a military target, but equally, i think they will have lots of voices in there is from the allies, saying less is more. on this
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occasion. the less they can do to escalate the situation, rather the more they can do to de—escalate it, the better. james landau, our diplomatic correspondence, reporting during the course of the night, and i went in the morning, james, thank you very much. joining me live now is former cnn state department reporter elise labott and founder of zivvy media. always very good to have you with us on the programme. to begin with the fact we have seen a direct attack from iran, directly from the revolutionary guard, do you think this is something that israel was anticipating? i something that israel was anticipating?— something that israel was anticipating? i think it was very much _ anticipating? i think it was very much anticipating - anticipating? i think it was l very much anticipating some kind of reaction from iran. if he saw what happened over the last week or so, iran went to
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the united nations, it invoked article 51 of the un charter and basically alerted the international community that it would be undertaking a response. after it did, you heard the sergeant saying earlier that it would consider the matter closed. it is kind of this co—ordination you have seen over the last 48 hours or so, president biden, almost as if he knew exactly what was going to happen, he came out and said he was expecting the response sooner rather than later. then you saw the trajectory of the drones and missiles, most of them being shot down. i won't say the international community knew exactly what time and where the missiles were coming but there certainly was an alert to the international community. let's talk more _ international community. let's talk more about _ international community. let's talk more about that _ international community. let's talk more about that because l international community. let's talk more about that because of so that statement from president biden, talking about
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the readiness. he says in the statement at my direction to support the defence of israel the us military moved aircraft and ballistic missile systems to the region over the course of the past week. what does that tell us about the continuing partnership of the united states and israel when we know if we take a look back at the last few weeks there have been tensions with regards to the relationship betweenjoe biden and benjamin netanyahu and how israel had been prosecuting the war in gaza. in light of these latest developments, where does this stand now?— stand now? i think it goes to show you — stand now? i think it goes to show you that _ stand now? i think it goes to show you that even - stand now? i think it goes to show you that even though l stand now? i think it goes to - show you that even though there could be tension between leaders of the united states and israel, the defence of israel by the united states is really ironclad and the relationship between the two countries is strong and then to pick up on whatjames said, i think there will be heavy diplomacy now at this stage.
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obviously notjust on iran, but on israel, to restrain itself. you saw in the last few days, not only the united states but britain, germany and even russia, even though there are tensions between the us, nato and russia right now, that co—ordination in terms of going to iran, urging restraint, i think it was said at same urging of restraint right now because the ball is really in israel's court. again you heard tonight from iran evoking the un charter, saying it considers it undertook this response, and considers the matter closed. what does that say? that iran is making a pledge to the international community it will not be undertaking any more attacks as a result of this particular attack on the embassy. whether you can trust iran or not, it is making this commitment, not to israel of the united states, but to the un, which you take that
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membership seriously. i think the way iran undertook the attack, the way you saw it shot down, the ball is really in the court of israel and i think there will be a lot diplomacy in terms of ok, israel took this attack on the embassy, that it felt it needed for insecurity. iran took the response it needed to take for its own either security or domestic constituency but i think there will be a real effort to kind of de—escalate tensions right now. you mention those diplomatic efforts. in the statement from president biden he spoke of convening g7 leaders tomorrow, he said on sunday, with regards to coming up with a co—ordinated diplomatic response to iran's brazen attacks, according to that statement. what will that g7 meeting look like, do you
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think? what could they potentially come up with? i think it is going to be a lot of rhetoric. there is going to be a lot of rhetoric in terms of there is a real ironclad defence of israel, that it stands by israel's security and there will be able a lot of handwringing about a iran but at the end of the day i think the real efforts will be focused on israel not taking this a step further to escalate so then iran, even in that statements to the united nations, it said "hey, we consider this matter closed, but if israel wants to escalated further, we are ready." right now, it could go two ways. we could temper down the tension and the escalation or it could really spiral out of control and if you heard the un secretary general �*s statement tonight, it was about escalation. so, a real effort now i'm not getting into the
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spiral and tit—for—tat attacks. there was minimal damage to the israeli facilities. unfortunately, that one young girl was hurt, but as the attack stands as it is now, if that were to be it, i think the us and its allies would consider if lucky that there was no further damage, that civilians were not killed. we saw everybody rushing to israel's defence. it shows that even though there is a war going on and there is consternation about how israel is prosecuting it, israel should feel comfortable that the international community has its back on further attacks from iran. you see an attack on israel right now — i am not sure how the international community will respond. i5 community will respond. is mentioning the war there and the fact that israel is engaged there in gaza. the promise from prime minister benjamin netanyahu with regards to the
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operation in rafah. where do you think that leaves the situation right now? if you think about the idf, for example, does it have the numbers to continue in gaza while also having the readiness for the situation we have with iran right now? if for the situation we have with iran right now?— for the situation we have with iran right now? if you go back to 2006, — iran right now? if you go back to 2006, obviously _ iran right now? if you go back to 2006, obviously what - iran right now? if you go back to 2006, obviously what is i to 2006, obviously what is going on in gaza right now is much more extensive than the military operations in gaza at that time, but israel was fighting a two front war. it was fighting in the lebanon, it was fighting in the lebanon, it was a very robust, extensive war, and it was also writing in gaza. i think right now, israel has — i think — withdrawn a bottle of troops from gaza, not just because it has been chastened after the killing of the tragedy of the world
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central kitchen workers but it has been preparing for escalation with iran and i think you will see a stealing of the army and idf and intelligence forces ahead of a potential escalation with iran which nobody wants but that does not mean the war in gaza is over but i think you will see a lull and hopefully there will be some ceasefire negotiations, but i think that is how israel might be calculating it. if it escalates, we really don't know, but certainly, they will need to deploy more reservists and i think there is going to be able a lot of conversations right now about how they can fight the two front war, as you say. fight the two front war, as you sa . ~ , , ., y fight the two front war, as you say. absolutely. also at a time where there — say. absolutely. also at a time where there are _ say. absolutely. also at a time where there are over— say. absolutely. also at a time where there are over 130 - where there are over 130 israeli hostages, of course, you have not been returned, and we know of course for those
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families, and very painful situation. a situation that has caused a lot of frustration with prime minister netanyahu. what does this mean for the families, the hostages, but also, what do you think this means for prime minister netanyahu when we know he has been facing a pretty tough time at home? he been facing a pretty tough time at home? ., , , been facing a pretty tough time at home? . , , .,. been facing a pretty tough time at home? . , , .. ., at home? he has been facing a very tough _ at home? he has been facing a very tough time _ at home? he has been facing a very tough time at _ at home? he has been facing a very tough time at home, - at home? he has been facing a very tough time at home, and l very tough time at home, and you did kind of see these protests erupting recently protests eru pti ng recently about protests erupting recently about a real dissatisfaction as to how he is fighting this war. i think everyone in israel supports the israeli armed forces and supports israeli security, but does have problems that they think that netanyahu's is keeping the foregoing for his political objectives? and when you see what israel does over the next days and weeks on iran, they used to be this kind of
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acceptance of whatever israel did and whatever the government did and whatever the government did was justified. did and whatever the government did wasjustified. i think there is going to be a lot more careful examination of each examination of each attack because there is scrutiny on netanyahu right now so i think you are going to see the defence minister benny gantz a lot more in front right now on this israeli threat from iran that you will see from prime minister netanyahu himself. and minister netanyahu himself. and de endin: minister netanyahu himself. and depending on where this goes, whether we see that response from israel and things do go a bit more quiet, potentially, it is contained, there is also the potential, isn't there, for proxy flareups? we have already seen that in the past months as well. how complicated would that make the situation? how strange would that be also for
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the idf as well? it strange would that be also for the idf as well?— the idf as well? it is going to make it incredibly _ the idf as well? it is going to i make it incredibly complicated. over the last couple of days you heard israel was expecting a multipronged attack. notjust from missiles and these uavs, but also from a and that could be hezbollah, hezbollah, it could be the houthis. obviously, hamas gets its support to some extent. you might see some action from the houthis. they were stopping shipments in the red sea that were going towards israel. you might see more of that. then again, the united states has its military deployed there. so, i think this is all going to get very complicated, and if you see an attack from the who these, —— houthis, iran are saying this will be contained, so the houthis do not necessarily take iran's orders
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100%. there is not that kind of co—ordination. they get a wide berth to do what they think they want to do with irani in support. they are not micromanaging every move of the houthis. the houthis like to show their power and that they are not 100% beholden to iran. does israel respond against the houthis or does respond against iran? a couple of months ago when he saw the attacks from the houthis there was talk about going straight to the source, to iran. i think that is the kind of escalation that the international community does not want to see.- the international community does not want to see. editor of osma politics. _ does not want to see. editor of osma politics, thank _ does not want to see. editor of osma politics, thank you - does not want to see. editor of osma politics, thank you very l osma politics, thank you very much for your analysis. osma politics, thank you very much foryouranalysis. good osma politics, thank you very much for your analysis. good to talk to you. earlier, i spoke to aaron david miller — a former us diplomat now a seniorfellow at the carnegie endowment
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for international peace. watching all of this unfold, i wonder, how do you think prime minister benjamin netanyahu will react to this greeting? i mean, assuming the drone, cruise and ballistic missile strikes don't cause significant damage and casualties — i am not sure when they are going to conclude — i think the israelis are going to respond. with or without casualties. i think the israeli logic is going to be "we are going "to continue to hit iranian revolutionary guard "senior personnel wherever we can find them and if we have "to strike them again, we cannot create a situation "where iran is going to strike us again with "where iran is going to strike
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us again with "this sort "where iran is going to strike us again with this sort "of massive barrage of missiles." whether the israelis are reading the iranians correctly or not is unclear. the israelis want to restore deterrence, but the truth is that they misread october 7 in terms of the hamas's motivation. there was april1 when they took out several personnel and not thinking the iranians would respond with this sort of dramatic escalation. i think there will be an israeli in response, probably against iranian conventional military facilities in iran properly. whether or not that will take us up an escalatory ladder, whether or not it will involve hezbollah getting involved in a very serious way that goes beyond what happened in december 2006. hezbollah's inventory of high trajectory weapons is massive.
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so, we are really on the cusp. i am not predicting this. we certainly could get to an area the middle east has never been before which is a major regional war. one additional point — i think gaza has now become, tragically, with respect to the humanitarian situation there, any prospect of the release of hostages and any sense of security and stability, gaza has become a secondary consideration, particularly if the israelis strike iran within the next couple of days. all of this undoubtedly makes it very complicated for prime minister benjamin netanyahu, but ijust wonder what you think this means for his position at a time when we know he has been embattled at home. i think he has a — never underestimate this guy. he has been given another prolonged lease on political viability.
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benny gantz will not leave the government now that israel stands on the cusp of perhaps a significant escalation with iran and with hezbollah. the israeli public, i suspect, will react in support. whatever retaliatory strikes the war cabinet decides, and the united states, with all the tensions and anger and frustrations that the biden administration has with the prime minister, a lot of that is going to disappear, and i see it building already in the us congress where you — with the exception of progressives — you are going to have wall to wall support of democrats and republicans standing with and behind israel. so, if the israelis retaliate, which
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again, leads to an iranian counterstrike, and we are off to a real regional confrontation, i think much of the last six months is going to be subordinated to this new reality. i just want to ask — if we are at this critical threshold, is there any way that you think that things can still go back — that that threshold is not necessarily breach? breached? if the israelis respond and the iranians decide they do not want to call israel's bluff and retaliate, and estrange hezbollah, maybe you can put this back in the box, but a very dangerous precedent has now been set and i think once that precedent is out of the box, once you have a situation where the iranians have crossed a deadline by attacking israel
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and the israelis going to respond by directly striking iranian territory, even if you get a period of temporarily quiet, i think something quite significant has happened. ambassador bolton, i heard him an hour ago on cnn, basically saying — and there were two republicans, one former member of the house and two former members of the house — basically said that bolton was right, that the israelis and the americans and the sunni arabs in the region need to deal with the response to the problem — that is tehran — and bolton was recommending these israelis at least the nuclear facilities. briefly, you are a state department official. what does that mean for the united states tonight? sorry, i missed that. you have held positions including in the state department, what do you think all of this means for the united states tonight?
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i think that there was no way out of the israeli palestinian conflict in gaza, it was, the us was a strategic cul—de—sac and now we have a bigger problem which is the prospects of a major regional confrontation which could result in spiking oil prices, plunging financial markets, and something the middle east has never experienced before and the us unlike gaza or ukraine, the us unlike gaza or ukraine, the us unlike gaza or ukraine, the us could actually on this one drawn into the fight. aha, one drawn into the fight. a former us state department official aaron david miller is always greatly appreciate your insights, thank you for being with us. ., ~ insights, thank you for being with us. ., ,, , ., ., insights, thank you for being with us. . ~' , ., ., . with us. thank you for having me. with us. thank you for having me- you _ with us. thank you for having me- you are _ with us. thank you for having me. you are watching - with us. thank you for having me. you are watching bbc i with us. thank you for having - me. you are watching bbc news. if you'rejustjoining us, we've been covering iran's attack on israel. it's morning now in israel and the country is starting to wake up facing down the possibility of a wider regional conflict. let's bring you the latest
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that we know at this hour. the iranian—backed hezbollah group in lebanon now says it has launched a fresh barrage of rockets towards the golan heights. that was just hours after it joined a major iranian drone and missile attack targeting israel. hezbollah and israel have regularly traded cross—border fire with israel since the start of the ongoing war in gaza. iran's revolutionary guards confirmed earlier that they launched that major attack from within iran that was in part a response to a deadly airstrike that destroyed an iranian diplomatic compound in syria earlier this month that is widely believed to be an israeli airstrike. president biden spoke with israel's prime minister benjamin netnayahu by phone. the white house released a statement from president biden saying in part:
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biden also said he will convene g7 leaders to coordinate a united diplomatic response. and here's what we know about the situation in israel at the moment. israel's military have told the bbc that some restrictions have been lifted on movement within the country, but did not provide futher detail. air sirens sounded in multiple locations in israel earlier. with explosions overjerusalem. israel's defence forces say one 10 year old girl has been injured so far and that light damage was caused to a military base — we do not have details of which base. our diplomatic correspondent james landale, shared the latest from jerusalem.
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we have been talking throughout the course of the night and of course it is morning there now in israel. what is the country waking up to?— waking up to? this morning israel is waking _ waking up to? this morning israel is waking up - waking up to? this morning israel is waking up to - waking up to? this morning israel is waking up to an - israel is waking up to an uneasy dawn that is lighting up this capital city ofjerusalem this capital city of jerusalem and this capital city ofjerusalem and theirwaking up this capital city ofjerusalem and their waking up to the reality that for the first time that many can remember israel has been subject to a direct attack by its long time though iran. for many years now that has been a conflict but it is one of one remove where iran used as proxy forces and militia and other supporters in the region to attack israel. very rarely actually going out into the open and attacking israel openly because of the potential risks that may involved iran overnight has taken that risk of huge
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escalation in the conflict and as far as we can tell so far is the maximum number of missiles and drawings that have been fired at the moment the officialfigure is fired at the moment the official figure is about 200, i would expect the number to rise. the israeli authorities say most of those missiles and drawings were intercepted outside of israel which means that israel has had a huge amount of help and support from its allies this night. to protect it and i think the interesting question this morning is going to be how that support is leveraged into diplomacy, because you heard just now is going to be a meeting of the un security council later today, joe biden said he wants to convene a meeting of g7 allies. they will try to use those opportunities i think to bolster support for israel because israel having
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been very criticised in the way it behaved in gaza over the past six months, at the moment this morning israel is the victim of an attack and i think its allies will want to exploit that notjust its allies will want to exploit that not just to its allies will want to exploit that notjust to try its allies will want to exploit that not just to try and its allies will want to exploit that notjust to try and rally support for israel and put pressure on iran but also to try and restrain israel because the question now facing israeli policymakers will be how do they respond to these attacks and how do they do that in a proportionate way and i think israel's allies and others in the region will want that to be as measured and calibrated and limited as possible.— limited as possible. what is the day ahead _ limited as possible. what is the day ahead now - limited as possible. what is the day ahead now lookingl limited as possible. what is i the day ahead now looking like for ordinary israeli people going about their business when we are in a new reality where what you are called a shadow wall now appears to have
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potentially become an overt one. what is that mean for them? it one. what is that mean for them? , ., ~ , them? it will be waking up, auoin to them? it will be waking up, going to work, _ them? it will be waking up, going to work, this - them? it will be waking up, going to work, this sunday | going to work, this sunday morning so it's start of the week here in israel. there will be carrying with them their mobile phones with their civil defence alerts at the ready in case there's any further attack. remember it is coming up attack. remember it is coming up to passover so not all of the schools are open but last night the civil authorities announced that all educational activities, trips, camps will be cancelled. the government he has also banned any mass gathering of people more than 1000 people, presumably because that would present too much of a target but that would mean that there are constraints on any demonstrations that may have been planned certainly any mass gatherings, concerts, football matches and things like that. life will be
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different i think, israel this morning is waking up to a new reality. a more dangerous reality. a more dangerous reality. we are still not entirely sure how this escalating attack will play out what it means for the wider region. what it means for the wider re . ion. �* what it means for the wider reuion. �* ., �* ~' ., region. and we don't know where the day will _ region. and we don't know where the day will take _ region. and we don't know where the day will take us. _ region. and we don't know where the day will take us. but - region. and we don't know where the day will take us. but in - the day will take us. but in terms of the potential for a response from israel, what might we see?— response from israel, what might we see? well, israel has military capacity _ might we see? well, israel has military capacity to _ might we see? well, israel has military capacity to hit - might we see? well, israel has military capacity to hit back - military capacity to hit back against iran, i imagine that there will be some pressure within policy measures here to respond like with like, so not to target a run proxies but attack iran proper. they want to make sure any attackers calibrated on a military target. equally, ithink
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calibrated on a military target. equally, i think they will have lots of voices in their areas from their allies, saying less is more. the less they can do to escalate the situation rather the more they can do to de—escalate the situation the better. i can do to de-escalate the situation the better.- situation the better. i dip about a correspondent i situation the better. i dip i about a correspondent who situation the better. i dip about a correspondent who has been reporting throughout the course of the night. into the morning in israel, thank you very much for keeping us up—to—date with the latest developments. we can go live to laura blumenfeld, who has beenjoining us throughout the course of the evening. middle east analyst and former us state department senior policy advisor. good to see you once again. i want to bring you up—to—date with some of the latest details we have coming in, this is coming in from reporting from the media outlet and it says joe biden has told the israeli prime minister at the us will
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oppose any israeli counter—attack against iran and in that reporting it is citing a senior white house official. what do you make of that? look, this is israel's _ what do you make of that? look, this is israel's chance _ what do you make of that? look, this is israel's chance at - this is israel's chance at redemption. it is they shot, yes i want to take a shot at iran but this is a shot at redemption and in the world court of opinion the united states is very aware of our damage israel's reputation has been. they are standing alone reputation and tonight the states stood shoulder to shoulder on the battlefield but benjamin netanyahu said they have a simple statement, whoever harms us we will harm him. the nine steps want to make sure that does not go too far because after the october seven attacks as joe far because after the october seven attacks asjoe biden said, their response was over—the—top and i think they're ready to reel it in and say they are done. i they're ready to reel it in and say they are done.— say they are done. i want to take that — say they are done. i want to take that to _ say they are done. i want to take that to general- say they are done. i want to take that to general mark . take that to general mark schwarzer. who served as united states security coordinator of the israel—palestinian authority
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was an end to that, what are your thoughts on that reporting out of axiom's tonight citing one official essentially saying that there was some advice let's see from the us president to benjamin netanyahu saying that the united states will be in opposition to any israeli country attack against iran. i think if the level of casualties would have been very high or extremely high as a result of the attacks in the last 12 hours, there would have been a different message and conversation but i think to laura's point it's an opportunity to de—escalate the strategic tension between ryan mack and israel and —— strategic tension between ryan mack and israeland —— iran. i think it is very positive that the prime minister will address the prime minister will address the un today and today israeli
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time and the meeting of the g7. there is an opportunity to de—escalate not only this direct complete but more broadly within the region. those are all positive messages. i those are all positive messages.— those are all positive messares. , ., ., messages. i suppose one of the questions _ messages. i suppose one of the questions is _ messages. i suppose one of the questions is do _ messages. i suppose one of the questions is do you _ messages. i suppose one of the questions is do you think - questions is do you think benjamin netanyahu will heed the call from washington? my the call from washington? ij�*i assessment i the call from washington? ii assessment i don't the call from washington? m1 assessment i don't know the call from washington? ii1 assessment i don't know the gentleman well but my system based on the fact that we did not see significant israeli casualties as a result of the attacks that i think israel has attacks that i think israel has a significant range of capabilities and means by which to cause iran harm weekly and in other ways. there is no rush to respond, i don't think, from
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israel's standpoint right now. israel's standpoint right now. i think that he will heed this advice based on what i have seen play out in the last couple of days.- seen play out in the last couple of days. and laura on that point — couple of days. and laura on that point with _ couple of days. and laura on that point with regards - couple of days. and laura on that point with regards to - couple of days. and laura on| that point with regards to the reporting from axios right now, if it is the case that badja windanya who does take on board what the us president has to say —— benjamin netanyahu, does is also kind of give israel for example some kind of off ramp where he has to justify his actions to the population which will be feeling insecure right now in light of what they have seen clout of the night? it gives him diplomatic cover who can say to his heart rate that he was forced into this and the united states stood by us in our hour of need and so... i thinkjoe biden is built for
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this, what he will try to do is spin a alliance of other western nations and supporting israel and it will help rehabilitate israel's reputation and he can presented as a way to strengthen israel for the next battle. it's a legacy issue for benjamin netanyahu has been obsessed with iran since the beginning of his rule which for many years, i'm sure he was thinking about the next confrontation because he is not done with iran. they took a shot tonight at israel's nuclear reactor and i know that benjamin netanyahu is thinking about whether it is through direct military confrontation or a computer virus attack, some kind of cyber attack. virus attack, some kind of cyberattack. he virus attack, some kind of cyber attack. he is not done and it may not be an open body shot like it took in damascus but it's not finished until it's finished.— but it's not finished until it's finished. , , it's finished. very interesting oint, it's finished. very interesting point. do _ it's finished. very interesting point. do you _ it's finished. very interesting point, do you think _ it's finished. very interesting point, do you think that - it's finished. very interesting | point, do you think that there is the potential as you are
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evoking therefore retaliation at a later date on both sides here? if you look at the situation already from hezbollah and the latest developments that group launching fresh rockets into israeli occupied heights as well, could display out in a way that we may not expect? tiara way that we may not expect? two oints on way that we may not expect? two points on that. _ way that we may not expect? “ii-oh points on that. there's a saying in the middle is that if a man takes revenge after 30 years, he was in a hurry. i think a lot of the countries are just playing a long think a lot of the countries arejust playing a long game, iran is famous for strategic patients but your point about hezbollah is very important, i think they are perhaps what will deter israel from striking to dramatically anyway deep inside of iran because if there's one thing that has given israeli generals night sweats is for the past decade thinking about the precision guided missiles that are sitting on the northern border of israel they can strike at the heart of the scibilio populations in israel and unlike the strikes from iran
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resort tonight there would not be the hours to stop that swarm of rockets coming over from hezbollah. hezbollah is iran's life insurance policy and i'm sure they're happy they invested in it.- sure they're happy they invested in it. taking that mark regards _ invested in it. taking that mark regards to - invested in it. taking that mark regards to those - invested in it. taking that - mark regards to those hezbollah rockets launched onto the heights there. do you think that was a message and at deterrence from israel in terms of any kind of counter—attack? well, i think similar to what we saw right after the atrocities of october 7, lebanese hezbollah immediately fired rockets into israel i think as late as the seventh or early on the eighth of october, and so i am sure that there has been a lot of communication between the irani on regime and lebanese hezbollah leadership
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and i do not think it was so much of a deterrent as it was to show "hey, we are all on the team against iran," but to the capability and the minutes of warning, not like what israel had tonight, the numbers range from 120,000 — i have heard as high as 190,000 — rockets. so, that amount of capability that could be launched against israeli infrastructure and the civilian populace is real concern, i think, from the israeli political leadership and certainly, as laura said, the israeli military.- the israeli military. mark, laura, the israeli military. mark, laura. stay _ the israeli military. mark, laura, stay with _ the israeli military. mark, laura, stay with us. - the israeli military. mark, laura, stay with us. i - the israeli military. mark, | laura, stay with us. i want the israeli military. mark, i laura, stay with us. i want to play you a soundbite with a conversation i had withjoe pacino. he was talking about in his assessment the significance of the situation.— of the situation. iran, i believe. _ of the situation. iran, i believe, is _ of the situation. iran, i believe, is signalling . of the situation. iran, i i
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believe, is signalling that this— believe, is signalling that this is— believe, is signalling that this is it _ believe, is signalling that this is it for them. let's call it good _ this is it for them. let's call it good. "you attacked our embassy— it good. "you attacked our embassy inside of syrian damascus. we struck back." you know, _ damascus. we struck back." you know. they — damascus. we struck back." you know, they had to retaliate. and — know, they had to retaliate. and iran _ know, they had to retaliate. and iran does not want this. they— and iran does not want this. they do— and iran does not want this. they do not want israel to attack— they do not want israel to attack into iran. 50, if you think— attack into iran. 50, if you think about it in terms of — may— think about it in terms of — may he _ think about it in terms of — may he in— think about it in terms of — may be in strategic terms it is like turn — may be in strategic terms it is like turn one. turn one was the israeli — like turn one. turn one was the israeli strike into damascus. they— israeli strike into damascus. they had _ israeli strike into damascus. they had to be a turn to. this is turn — they had to be a turn to. this is turn to _ they had to be a turn to. this is turn to. what is really going _ is turn to. what is really going to _ is turn to. what is really going to matter here is what is ten three? what is israel going to do— ten three? what is israel going to do next? i believe in dome and david _ to do next? i believe in dome and david slinger going to shoot _ and david slinger going to shoot down these rockets and i do not — shoot down these rockets and i do not think anything is going to get through. so far, nothing has got — to get through. so far, nothing has got through. iran has signalled "we are done. we are going _ signalled "we are done. we are going to — signalled "we are done. we are going to put a cap on this." now— going to put a cap on this." now it _ going to put a cap on this." now it is _ going to put a cap on this." now it is up to israel but will
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be turned three. as now it is up to israel but will be turned three.— now it is up to israel but will be turned three. as you have outlined. _ be turned three. as you have outlined, it _ be turned three. as you have outlined, it is _ be turned three. as you have outlined, it is about - be turned three. as you have outlined, it is about who - be turned three. as you have | outlined, it is about who ends up outlined, it is about who ends up having the last word in a shadow conflict which has become a covert conflict. do you think israel would be satisfied to leave it at turn three? ., ~' satisfied to leave it at turn three? ., ~ ., three? no. ithink netanyahu has been _ three? no. ithink netanyahu has been looking _ three? no. ithink netanyahu has been looking for- three? no. ithink netanyahu has been looking for a - three? no. ithink netanyahuj has been looking for a reason to engage directly with iran. look at this today and this evening from netanyahu's evening from neta nyahu's perspective, evening from netanyahu's perspective, ok? his entire character, his persona, is he is the protector — the one man who can protect israel. they live in this incredibly dangerous neighbourhood with a smack to the west, lebanese hezbollah to the north, iran, always a threat. now, iran firing directly into israel. so, he is going to want to strike into iran to open up this war and make it a wider
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regional war. this war and make it a wider regionalwar. it this war and make it a wider regional war. it has always wanted to do that. now it is a matter of can president biden, can we dampen emotions here and talk that down?— talk that down? laura, mark, listening to — talk that down? laura, mark, listening to that _ talk that down? laura, mark, listening to that - _ talk that down? laura, mark, listening to that - laura, - listening to that — laura, firstly to you. joe pacino saying that in his view essentially israel and netanyahu essentially israel and neta nyahu specifically essentially israel and netanyahu specifically would neta nyahu specifically would not netanyahu specifically would not be able to resist, right now, turn three, as he put it, and having the last word. i was speaking to him before we had that reporting coming out of axios about calls for president biden not to stage a counter attack. do you think the fact that israel needs that support of its longest ally the united states essentially recalibrate things in terms of the demands from washington that we are seeing? from washington that we are seein ? ~ ., from washington that we are seein ? ~ . ., , seeing? well, there are many wa s to seeing? well, there are many ways to launch _ seeing? well, there are many ways to launch a _
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seeing? well, there are many ways to launch a counter- ways to launch a counter attack. israel is better at revenge than retaliation. they can go back into the shadows and do damage on iran. ever since october 7 they have been trying to re—establish their strength but even more important than comparing strong because they have to appear smart. there was an intelligence failure on october 7 and israel lost the sheen of deterrent so there are other ways through subterfuge and assassination, but plausible deniable assassination in the past, and they can re—establish that. so, there is a way out for netanyahu. i do not think he will resist taking that counterstrike.— he will resist taking that counterstrike. talking about the intelligence _ counterstrike. talking about the intelligence failure - counterstrike. talking about the intelligence failure of i counterstrike. talking about| the intelligence failure of the hamas attack, president biden was speaking about early movement of us assets to the region this past week faced with intelligence about the potential attack. that surely
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has to be seen as something positive of israel and the united states working hand—in—hand, faced with this intelligence against tehran's ambitions. it intelligence against tehran's ambitions.— intelligence against tehran's ambitions. ., , ., ,, ambitions. it does and i think there was _ ambitions. it does and i think there was over _ ambitions. it does and i think there was over messaging i ambitions. it does and i think i there was over messaging about there was over messaging about the islamic regime that they intended to retaliate and it was very quickly after the attack that took place in damascus against the irgc�*s leadership there and the robustness of the air defence architecture that was put in place very rapidly, and the repositioning of us forces, but also forces from the ctf, the combined task force coalition thatis combined task force coalition that is there against attacks at the houthis have been watching in the red sea in the gulf so i think that is all very positive. and to laura's
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point, the israelis have exquisite intelligence across the region through over partnerships as well as some that are not as public and they could have struck the irgc leadership any time and i think theyin leadership any time and i think they in a way miscalculated the reaction as a result of that strike from iran before they took it and i think that a lesson learned here is they are very good at taking strategic intervention against iran in the shadows, and ideally, that is the methodology they will carry forward after what we have seen transpire here over the last 12 hours.— the last 12 hours. there is the intelligence _ the last 12 hours. there is the intelligence pillar _ the last 12 hours. there is the intelligence pillar to - the last 12 hours. there is the intelligence pillar to this. i intelligence pillar to this. there is also the military support pillar to this and what
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washington needs to provide at a time when we know that aid package to both israel and ukraine has been stalled in congress. laura, does that reinvigorated? does that give fresh urgency to see congress pass it? fresh urgency to see congress ass it? ~ , ., ., pass it? absolutely, and i also think the timing _ pass it? absolutely, and i also think the timing with - pass it? absolutely, and i also think the timing with the i think the timing with the elections. everything that is happening, every move president biden is taking is seen through the lens of this contrast. he is running a campaign of the contrast and part of it is leadership so, yes, absolutely. if he can control or at least moderate israel and keep boots off the ground. the united states was in a shooting war, whether we acknowledge it tonight. they were out there intercepting drones over several territories. so, intercepting drones over severalterritories. so, i think it remains to be seen whether they can get congress to fall into line, but there is nothing like a strike by iran to rally the world. we are seeing it today, we will see you tomorrow. biden was built
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for this. this is his moment. mark, to you. with that military perspective, laura saying it was a pretty tense moment for powers around the world, including the united states tonight. how much was the united states military bracing itself, and what do you think — to both of you, i will ask you, laura swelled — this means about global security with where we are tonight? i would say — not unprecedented, but probably the highest level of us protection in the region than we have seen in several months and i think that will continue in the coming days. i do think that what we saw play out here has taken, again, the eye off the ball and —— of what i think is an even more important conflict and the resolve to provide the
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resources to ukraine that it needs. i resources to ukraine that it needs. , ., ., needs. i “ust want to give briefly. _ needs. i just want to give briefly, laura, _ needs. i just want to give briefly, laura, the i needs. i just want to give briefly, laura, the last i needs. i just want to give | briefly, laura, the last 30 seconds for your thoughts. i willjust finish your foot. i think— willjust finish your foot. i think it _ willjust finish your foot. i think it is _ willjust finish your foot. i think it is terrific. we are talking _ think it is terrific. we are talking about iran, for the united _ talking about iran, for the united states, china and russia _ united states, china and russia. those are our real national— russia. those are our real national security priorities and — national security priorities and we _ national security priorities and we don't want to get dragged into a third front with had — dragged into a third front with had we — dragged into a third front with iran. we do not want an all—out war~ _ iran. we do not want an all—out war~ the — iran. we do not want an all—out war. the other thing for president biden is his political nemesis. former president trump. he is a go it alone — president trump. he is a go it alone guy, _ president trump. he is a go it alone guy, trumpet, and biden is about— alone guy, trumpet, and biden is about alliances. and hopefully there will be a victory _ hopefully there will be a victory for that.- victory for that. laura blumenfeld _ victory for that. laura blumenfeld and i victory for that. laura blumenfeld and markj victory for that. laura - blumenfeld and mark schwartz, thank you for being with us for this rolling coverage. we handed over to our colleagues in london. thank you so much for being with us. hello there. you might remember that friday had been the warmest day of the year.
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temperatures reached 21.5 degrees celsius in greater london at both northolt and also at st james's park. but that figure didn't last very long. it was beaten on saturday. we've got temperatures up to 21.8 degrees celsius at rydell in essex. that now is the highest temperature recorded so far this year. we've got a big drop in temperatures on the way, though, across england and wales. and in some places those temperatures will be dropping by around seven degrees celsius. you will notice the change as cooler air that we have had across scotland and northern ireland works southwards. now over the next few hours we've got a few showers around. they tend to become confined to northern and western areas of scotland. otherwise, the skies are clearing. it's going to be a cold start to sunday morning with temperatures for quite a few places down at around four degrees celsius. might be chilly, but there will be plenty of early morning sunshine, clear, blue, sunny skies in many cases. but there will be some coastal showers in western scotland. and through the day, showers become extensive. scotland, northern ireland and a few getting into parts of western england and wales. some of the showers will be heavy with some hail mixed in and those temperatures,
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yes, will be coming down 15 degrees in london, seven degrees lower than the temperatures we had on saturday, but actually smack bang on average for this time of the year. now for monday, low pressure is going to be moving southwards and eastwards across the uk. it's going to be a day where we'll see a band of heavy rain move south and eastwards, followed by showers. it's a windy day with gusts of wind reaching around 40—50 miles an hour, quite widely, but 60 in places. and those strong, gusty winds will blow in frequent showers. again, some of them will have hail mixed in. if anything, temperatures a little bit below average, but factor in the strength of the wind. while i think it will start to feel a little on the chilly side. tuesday and wednesday still see some showers or maybe a few longer spells of rain diving in from the north—west. temperatures probably quite close to average, really. so tuesday, a showery day against some of the showers with hail. the heaviest downpours and most frequent downpours for parts of scotland, northern ireland and the far north of england. temperatures around 11—13 degrees celsius or so. and really, we keep those rather showery weather conditions.
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i think through wednesday and thursday, there's a trend to seeing something a bit drier as we get towards friday and into the following weekend as well. bye for now.
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live from london. this is bbc news. sirens iran launches dozens of aerial drones and missiles at israel,
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marking a widely anticipated reprisal attack for the strike on its consulate in syria two weeks ago. the iran attack is ongoing, our plans are in the air. tonight, wide scale attack by iran is a major escalation. and these are live pictures from tel aviv — after what was the first time iran had ever launched a direct military assault on israel. hello, i'm geeta guru—murthy. iran has launched a major attack against israel — in what was an expected, but unprecedented response to a deadly israeli air strike that destroyed an iranian diplomatic compound in syria earlier this month. the idf says almost all
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