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>> the entire culture changed. "the 60s" tonight at 9:00, cnn. >> got chills. set your dvr and watch it live. >> "legal view" with ashleigh banfield starts now. the world's leading experts using the most advanced sonar equipment available triangulating and calculating reams of satellite data and coordinating countless air and sea searches for flight 370. they've all been looking in the wrong place for 83 days. that is not nearly as long as hundreds of sick and dying veterans have been waiting to see a doctor at the v.a. a scathing brand new report showing the insurfable conditions and cover-ups are
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even worse and more widespread than cnn first revealed. new calls for heads to roll. he's breaking bad. bryan cranston has the baddest show on television, a summer blockbuster movie. a massive run away hit on broadway and today, this hour, he's landed a starring role right here on "legal view," bryan cranston with a whole lot to say. you'll want to hear it. straight ahead. hello. i'm ashleigh banfield and you're watching "legal view." we begin with this. yes, the indiana ocean is really really deep and it takes time and expertise and special equipment to map a tiny place on
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the ocean floor but the missing flight 370 is very hard to take. today, we learned the most likely reason the bluefin 21 never did pick up the black boxes or anything else for that matter from the vanished malaysian airliner in what we thought was the likely most likely place is that it wasn't. it wasn't the right place at all, it never was. the best minds thought it was because of those pings from the plane's black box, flight data and black box data recorders, do you remember those? sadly now an expert is telling cnn those pings were a big recommend herring, another in an excruciating series of dead ends. i will stop right there and bring in cnn aviation correspondent richard quest in london and rene marsh in d.c., our correspondent on this story. rene, i will begin with you.
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this is so distressing. what happened? >> it is distressing. i have to say when we learned this information yesterday the one word that came out of my mouth was, wow. we were hearing -- keep in mind, this was the last day of bluefin's mission. it had done 28 missions. we now learned that this area in which four underwater signals were detected, a u.s. navy official on the record say it was most likely not from the black boxes after all. not only were the black boxes in the area you're looking at highlighted on your screen, neither is the plane. the plane is not there in that section of the indiana ocean. we also got confirmation about the plane not being there from the australians because that came out in a statement because they say they have discounted this area where these four underwater signals have
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reflected the resting place of flight 370. >> the hope has been diminishing slightly with every single day. rene, your report has deflated so many. richard quest, this can't mean the end. there certainly has to be something else they can do. what is it? >> it is by no means the end. it is disappointing and devastating but a reflection of the complexity and difficulty of the mission at hand here, ashleigh. if it was easy, they'd have done it quickly. they found these pings within a 30 day period and they went and looked because it was the best they had. this just shows how very difficult this situation is. what are they going to do? let's look forward, not back. they will look back to redefine an area, close to the seventh
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ping, the partial hand shake from the plane to the satellite, remember the handshakes. they will go back and remain truthful and faithful to where that seventh hand shake is and define and area possibly up to 60,000 square kilometers. they will map the ocean bed. that is crucial to understand what the floor of the ocean looks like before they search again, then give a private contractor the job of doing it. >> rene, if there's one ray of light in your reporting today to say it is excellent, just sad, there is that notion of the hydrofoam, the system that is out there, there was some remarkable sound picked up, take it from there that one day we will find this plane. >> i don't know this is the ray of light we're looking for, a lot of people i have spoken to say this is a long shot. still, it goes to show they are
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hunting down every possible angle. you're looking at an animation, organization affiliated with the united nations, under water microphones that monitor all of the 11 planet's oceans, they're listening, mostly their objective is to listen for nuclear tests. it can pick up other sounds as well, pick up thousands of miles aw away, and ice breaking up in antarctica. they're analyzing one of those stations because they believe a signal may have been picked up related to flight 370 but not 100% sure let so refining that analysis >> excellent reporting, as always, rene, thank you, and richard quest, thank you to both of you. coming up. the long wait at v.a. hospitals go way beyond phoenix and even cnn's reporting.
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a brand new report says it is system-wide, the problem. and now the v.a.'s top guy, erkc shinse shinseki, is out with his own defense and powerful op-ed. we will tell you what he has to say about this mess that is underneath him. plus, we are also now hearing from a family friend of the uc santa barbara killer. talk about walking a tightrope. why he believes elliot rodger could not be stopped. you will hear him in his own words in his own pain next. [ julie ] the wrinkle cream graveyard. if it doesn't work fast... you're on to the next thing. clinically proven neutrogena® rapid wrinkle repair. it targets fine lines and wrinkles with the fastest retinol formula available. you'll see younger looking skin in just one week. one week? this one's a keeper. rapid wrinkle repair. and for dark spots rapid tone repair.
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welcome back to "legal view." i'm ashleigh banfield. the deeper investigators dig into neglect at the veterans hospital, the worse it becomes and outrage. the house lambasted senior v.a. officials over the waiting lists and cover-ups. the speaker of the house put the blame above veteran secretary er erik shinseki. >> the real issue is the president is the one who should be held accountable. as kevin pointed out we sent a letter going back to early 2013, talking about the gao report, asking for its recommendations to be implemented. and for the president to say he didn't know anything about it is rather shocking. so the president is going to have to step up here and show some real leadership. >> to be sure, more and more lawmakers in both parties are calling for shinseki's firing, especially in light of a preliminary report from the
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v.a.'s own inspector general. looking only at the phoenix v.a. hospital that's become the epicenter of the scandal, the i.g. found at least 1700 veterans that needed care, again, just at the phoenix hospital. those veterans actually thought they had appointments with v.a. doctors but they were never even on any kind of official list. the list, by the way, it appears, was for those veterans whose appointments were less than two weeks out so that the staff and officials could appear to be meeting their mandate for timely care and thus qualify for the bonuses and the raises that have also become pretty controversial. i am joined now by cnn's drew griffin, whose own investigation brought this to light. you started the ball rolling, and boy, is it rolling. just for a second, indulge me if you will. i want to read right now something secretary shinseki wrote today. i'll quote the findings on the inspector general on the phoenix
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v.a. health care system are reprehensible to me and this department. we are not waiting to set things straight. i immediately directed the veterans health care administration to contact each of the 1700 veterans in phoenix waiting for primary care appointment in order to bring them the care they need and deserve. remarkable different tone from the fellow you were chasing down on capitol hill yesterday, the guy who had to answer the question in front of lawmakers. by the way, how did that go when you tried to chase him down? >> i feel for the guy. his name is dr. thomas lynn, the assistant undersecretary of health. i caught him in a hallway after he had been through four hours of just getting grilled, as you say, ashleigh, by both democrats and republicans. larm largely, dr. thomas lynch couldn't answer questions like who's responsible? who did this? why is it happening? it was very frustrating for both sides. when he came out in the hallway
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i wanted to ask him a very specific question about this secret list and quite defensively, he told me, even after all this, there wasn't a secret list. listen. >> reporter: how can you, the current administration, which got us into this mess, get us out of it. >> if you just said it's been going on for five or ten years, i have not been part of that current administration, drew. i have been here a year and half. i think i have been able to see what the way forward is. i think we have developed in the last year and a half, tools we can use. i've acknowledged we need to ensure the integrity of 0 our system to use these tools accurately. we do have the tools and we do have the information we need to push forward and provide veterans with timely care. >> ashleigh, let's just take him at his word he's only been there a year and half and he personally doesn't know. certainly the secretary knew, everybody knew this was going on. but even a month monago, thomas lynch knew there were at least
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1100 veterans seeking care on waiting lists not getting seen. it is only now they are having this emergency response and trying to see all these veterans who are on this waiting list out in phoenix. so, it's very difficult to get information from the v.a. who knew what when and where, and who's taking responsibility for it. i think that frustration is building on capitol hill on both sides of the aisle. >> drew griffin, i say it early and i say it often and i mean it every time. your reporting has been tremendous and cnn is lucky to have you. i think the country's lucky to have you, too, from what you have actually made happen on capitol hill. keep it going and we will keep having you on to report what you find. thanks, drew. i want to switch gears for a moment here. we have a very special guest in-house this hour, the "breaking bad" man. really a good man. bryan cranston, joining us live. if you don't know that man, you've been living under a rock.
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elliot rodger's parents are not mourning him today. yes, he is their son and, yes, he is dead, and, yes, he slaughtered six people last friday near santa barbara, california.
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a close friend tells cnn the roger's family is in his words stuped with grief for the families of those who were killed. this is not about the killer. you kcan read his words and wath his video if you like. i'm not going to air them here. this is for the people who will ever have to live with his twisted conscious decision to commit a mass killing. we have not heard directly from rog r rodger's more or family yet. the family told cnn they knew their son was headed for a dark place. >> there is a sense they tried everything, as i say, even on the final night, they were in chase of trying to rescue him. he's been having therapy since he was a young age. it is quite clear there is years of work there and years of dedication to try and help their son. there's no blame. i don't hear blame. for instance the police, who went to santa barbara to his apartment. they have no blame for them
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whatsoever, because, in a way, he'd been fooling everyone for many years. the shame is that in the end, no one could rescue what had happened on friday night. and what these boys who go out to kill don't understand, not talking even rationale in their madness, but what they don't understand that when they murder one, they murder many because they don't just kill the people that are lying dead on the streets or in apartments or in galleries or in cinemas, they kill thousands and thousands of others who are connected to those. i've seen that. we all die a little over something like this. >> there's a couple other things that family friend told us. he said elliot rodger had been seeing a therapist since the age of 9. as for his parents, they saw his mental issues as just quote a
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part of their lives. they had no idea their son was collecting weapons, he said, no idea he was collecting ammunition and said he never showed any interest in guns at all. last night on anderson "360," the family of the victim named veronika weiss say their sympathies are with the rodger's family today. >> of course the parents are in a terrible situation. neither the boy, eliot or his parents chose to have mental illness be a dominant part of their life. they've been struggling for eliot's entire life, i'm sure, with all kinds of challenges. we're not angry at them. i don't know what the name for him in school today is. we used to call them nerds when i was in high school, the bookish types, more interested in calculus than being cool or popular. those are the kids veronika reached out to and were attra
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attracted to her. >> they were the kids that kept to themselves, some what antisocial sometimes. she really reached out to those kind of people. it's a shame because he was targeting the exact opposite kind of person. she was a person who would reach out to someone. >> so since we're talking about the person, let's talk about the person, veronika weiss. she was one of their college students elliott rodger shot death last friday night. he also stabbed three people to death in his apartment as well. the carnage was excessive to say the least. this in from the cdc. a record breaking year for reported measles cases in the united states. the centers for disease control reports 288 cases so far this year. california's outbreak is one of the biggest. ohio's numbers alone, strangely, account for nearly half of the total. doctors in 13 states report treating measles patients. the cdc is urging parents to get
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so you more than likely know bryan cranston as a midweeth kin on "breaking bad" and happens to be up for a tony in a broadway hit. this guy is everywhere, a fixture for tv screens. he's played almost every kind of character and a whole bunch you never thought possible. a goofy dad and spaceship commander and hemorrhoid pitch cream and done it owl. that's for sure and not done yet. i want you to take a peek on your screen for the many faces of bryan cranston.
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♪ >> now, you can relieve and inflame hemorrhoidal tissue with the oxygen action of preparation h. >> he's dead. >> she even got a court order against me. said i was harassing her. all i was trying to do was see my own daughter. mr. matlock, i don't have much money. >> we're burrowing straight down, 10 miles. >> put the safety doors on manual override. >> i can't do that. my wife is still in there. >> as a southerner, i had to bite my tongue on this issue my
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entire life until my mouth was full of blood. not anymore. what the hell is important about being president if you can't do the hell what you know is right? >> what are we doing putting a clip of lbj -- no, that was bryan cranston, a metamorphasis you have to see to believe. so great to see you. thank you for coming in. >> we will talk "breaking bad" right off the bat. that clip we've just seen, you are lbj. incredible, freakish, remarkable. >> i share some of the quality of facial features every man wants, squinty eyes, thin lips, a lot of wrinkles, it's a joy. >> we will talk about the play in depth. a tony nomination. first, congratulations. you in your long history of many interviews and so much production called breaking bad and walter white the role of a
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lifetime. did you know in the beginning you had that man in you? >> i think so. i think every actor is just looking for an opportunity to showcase themselves and their talents. i, for some reason, it came into my lap and i jumped on it. i knew when i read it whoever was fortunate enough to get this role, it will change their career. i didn't know at the time it was going to be me. >> that executive producer of yours knew it was you. he fought the studios and said this is this man. >> malcolm in the middle, are you kidding me? >> exactly. they saw the malcolm in the middle dad, a sweet lovable goofy silly man. they didn't think that was the right template for walter white. vince gilligan, god bless him, he said, no, he's an actor. this is what they do. he's the guy. he can do this. >> the body positioning of walter white. by the way, i have been steeped
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in "breaking bad" the last couple of weeks. i finished the whole thing last week. i'm a little behind obviously, slumped with the weight of the world on your shoulders and i understand you equate that with your own dad and look at your dad that way. >> my dad now is almost 90. natur naturally gravity pulls you down. i thought walter white should have some of that sensibility. he took on the weight of the world. he was in depression. i pulled him down a little bit. he just didn't care about his posture and his eating habits and things like that. he was pawnchy and pastry white. he didn't care about fashion or his hair or anything. >> he did at the end. he straightened right up. >> he started caring. his shoulders were back. he cared about things. he felt proud and felt dangerous >> he liked it. >> he liked it. >> oh, dear, i got the willies. i got the willies when you delivered that line, too, in
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that last season. when i read about your mom and your dad, your mom was a radio actress, your dad was an actor who left you and you were reunited with him, i think, 10 years after he left. and you went to live with your brother at your grandparents' farm. you were working hard, collecting eggs and cleaning eggs. this could have turned out very different, with a story like that, your life could have turned out very different. i think i read a quote saying you liked it and were happy doing the egg collecting. >> we worked on his gentleman farm. we had chores every day and had homework. to earn money we worked next door at his egg ranch and we worked there as well. it was all about work. i think that's where i developed a work ethic that has served me the rest of my career. to me, i love working. that's my desault take, is to go to work. >> i could have been interviewing you as a police officer involved in some legal
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issue. >> very possible. >> that was your first thought you were going to be a cop and headed that way. >> i was going to be a police officer because i found an aptitude for it when i was 16 years old and joined the police explorers, simply because they traveled a lot. i joined them, had to go through the lapd academy eight saturdays straight and graduated top in my class and realized i'm good at this. this is what i should do. then, i realized in my second year in college the girls in theater arts were prettier than the ones in police science. it redirected my whole focus to another area. >> didn't you have a makeout seen in one of these acting classes and the girl -- the other teenager was so passionately kissing you that you thought -- >> i thought she was into me. >> she was into you. >> i thought -- i asked her out at our break and she went -- she looked at me like i was a lost puppy, oh, no -- >> you're adorable.
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>> oh, and -- and then it hit me, i thought, oh, my god, she was acting. that is brilliant. i completely bought into it. i felt firsthand the power of being able to be moved to believing certain things. i thought, wow, if i'm going to do this, i need to see if i can become good at it. >> i wasn't making out with you on lbj, but i got that power and feeling like i was in the 1960s oval office learning a lot of nuances of history i didn't know had existed. when you come back, if you can stay. >> yes. >> we will talk about this all the way. >> i think this guy has a future. i think he will go all the way to the tony awards, for sure. bryan cranston on lbj. lucky you're here because we're doing "the 60s" on citizen tonight.
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this is the most important election of your lifetime and the choices couldn't be clearer. peace or war, brotherhood or division. prosperity or poverty, a march into a bright future or a retreat into a dark past. >> i know what you're saying. they didn't have videotape when lbj was alive. how did they do that? just in case you're just joining us because that is bryan cranston, who used to be walter white on the big screen and little screen and all the screens that travel with you. now, he's on broadway with this remarkable play. a little closure here, my cousin is one of the executive producers on breaking bad. that's how we originally met.
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>> ji. >> and i discovered how much of a news junky you are. >> i enjoy it. >> you're so plugged in. >> you appeared on "breaking bad." >> i did. >> are we allowed to say that. in an episode i directed. >> you directed that one? really? >> yes, i did. >> those were the days, i'm sure that's what gave the momentum to "breaking bad." >> that's it. >> the thing about you being so plugged in to current news, i wondered if that's what inspired you and your historical fascination. clearly, you didn't just do this role, you lived it, read it, listened to it, went to the lbj library. he was you. >> when i was a boy and johnson became president i had a different impression of him. he was very laconic and specific and determined and serious. that's not who he was at all. he was, as in the play, a storytelling back slapping crude
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angry self-pitying kind of guy. he was all over the place. in fact, people who know him say you can't assign any one adjective to him. you have to use them all. he was that, you know, along the spectrum of human emotions he hit every single mark. >> you got to -- in preparing for the role, you were listening to a lot of lbj tapes. >> yes. >> is there anything specific along the way? >> are you baiting me? >> i'm so baiting me because i've run it as a news item because i can't say it and you can. >> he had a conversation -- he had a conversation with a taylor down in diabetics and texas, he belching at the same time. i need them slacks because my weight goes up and down in the white house. i need a little more room there between my nut sac and my bun hole.
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that got through, huh? >> totally got through the sensors, you're good to go. i went, my god, that's the president of the united states talking. he said, i need some more room there. he also said in little clips, i need about an inch longer in the pockets so my knife doesn't fall out. here's the president of the united states carries a knife. >> carries a knife. >> in case he needs to whittle something. >> it's awesome, the things we find out. at the same time, i think it's fair to say, we, you and i, we lived through the '60s. the influences are so remarka e remarkable. i think about the things that have set me in propulsion for what i ended up doing in my life. cnn is airing this fantastic series on "the 60s" and television and how gratuitous you will be here. >> i have it recorded, because i have a show tonight and can't be there. >> i want to know what your first memory of television was, what hit you? >> we had the a little tiny
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pictures, they were all black and white. before televisions came in, i don't know if you remember this. >> no, i do. >> there was a film you lay over your black and white television and it gave a blue sky and green -- it's like crazy. the first family in the neighborhood who got a color television, everybody was over to watch it. >> like the family with the pool. >> yeah. the family with the pool. it's crazy. the '60s is the most die flammic decade, i think, in americ american -- dynamic decade i think in american history >> i saw tina louise, she's ginger and everybody knows her as mary ann or ginger and everybody there despite whether 22 or 52 or 72 knew who she was. >> that's the ability to reach back. there's nothing that isn't available to us now. i was on an airplane, i walked on to an airplane and a guy on his phone was watching "breaking
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sandr sandra. >> i wish you could have been watching bryan watching himself. can i say it? you said, well, i looked like the guy in the hemorrhoid commercial. it's true, remarkable the similarities between the two of you. i didn't expect to hear about "godzilla." you nearly passed on "godzilla," why? >> coming off of "breaking bad" we had another year and half to go and i knew it was coming to an end, i thought, i have to do something of the same quality and writing that "breaking bad" is and held it to a very high standard. then i realized, that's unfair. i loved "godzilla." that was my favorite monster as a kid growing up. one of my agents said, you should read this script. it's very different from what you think. i did read it. my character is a very strong father-son relationship in the narrative. i thought, this is exactly what i should do. it won't be compared to breaking bad, a completely different
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genre. it's a lot of fun. i think they used the 3d quality very soundly because it's not overdone, a good fun movie. >> isn't this the secret sauce? the idea is not to do what works necessarily, to do something completely different every time you finish a project. you went from hell to walter white, not more diametrically opposed to lbj and "godzilla" movie. is this your mission? >> i like it. you're a victim of your success, perhaps. once you do something that gets notoriety, they offer you roles similar to that and you become derivative of yourself. i didn't want to do that. i keep wanting to change things up and go to broadway and do a play and doing a small movie about "the hollywood blacklist."
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>> for anybody who may not know this, there is a cadre with vince gilligan, michelle mcclaren, you and others who cut your teeth with "x files" 20 years ago. >> that's right. >> the team has moved along and done these remarkable projects. all your fans, i'm sure, want to know will that team reunite and deliver another remarkable project? >> i sure hope so. here is a clip of me as the jerk in the back of the car. i just happened to have the right hair. you look at those mutton chops and big nasty mustache, you go, he's a jerk, let's hire him. that's the character i play. thank god for vince gilligan. he wrote and produced that episode. if it weren't for that one xunt to do that one episode on "x-files" and wouldn't be sitting here or had the chance
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to do breaking bad. >> spoiler alert for all of you who will watch "breaking batt i netflix, that final scene. >> you mean when he had the sex change? >> seriously, dude. >> i never saw that coming. >> i wasn't so sure that you died. i really wasn't. your eyes were opened, i thought what if the police takes him into custody, he gets better, and breaks out and goes nuts. >> you never saw them close the zipper. >> i don't know. >> no movie or walter white? >> no. i never say never. >> dear god, please come back. and if you have an inclination to read this fabulous news. good luck on the tony. the emmy, the grammy. start just saying, the oscar. >> i'll do a talking record,
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like shatner. >> and you have a movie coming out. >> i'm writing a book. >> bryan cranston. this is weird. he was slugged while walking the red carpet. his suspected attacker is a guy who's known for pulling off these types of stunts in the past. why on earth could he get anywhere near brad pitt? we'll ask you that in a moment. [ female announcer ] neutrogena® makeup remover erases 99% of your most stubborn makeup with one towelette. can your makeup remover do that? [ female announcer ] neutrogena® makeup remover. when jake and i first set out on can yourwe ate anything.do that? but in time you realize the better you eat, the better you feel. these days we both eat smarter. and i give jake purina cat chow naturals. made with real chicken and salmon, it's high in protein like a cat's natural diet.
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that corporate trial by fire when every slacker gets his due.
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and yet, there's someone around the office who hasn't had a performance review in a while. someone whose poor performance is slowing down the entire organization. i'm looking at you phone company dsl. check your speed. see how fast your internet can be. switch now and add voice and tv for $34.90. comcast business built for business. he is a selected stalker and he has struck again just last night. his target was the uber famous brad pitt. i say again because the suspect is well-known for his red carpet crashing escapades. as brad pitt was walking the red carpet at the premiere of his partner's movie mall liificent,
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launched out and took a swing at him. here's the story. >> reporter: it was like any red carpet event, brad pitt signing autographs for fans, when suddenly -- a man swings at the superstar, police say striking him in the face. it happened at the premiere of partner angelina jolie's new film "malificent." when the man lunged security moved in quickly taking him down. he was cuffed. police identified him as a 25-year-old notorious in hollywood for his red carpet crashing antics. two weeks ago, he was dragged off the red carpet at khan when he tried to crawl under actress america ferrera's dress. he is best known for this. getting slammed himself.
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w will smith took a swipe at the prankster back in may 2012 after he tried to kiss will on the mouth. he was also making headlines earlier this year for getting too close for comfort to leonardo dicaprio and bradley cooper at separate red carpet events. >> michelle turner reporting for us, joey jackson analyzing for us as a lawyer and good one at that. am i calling you if i'm brad pitt and say do something about this. >> something has to be done. it's not even only brad pitt. the message has to be sent it's unacceptable. he has a history, this nut, of doing this to people. what if he had a knife or something more serious. that's why it needs to be pursuened apursue en ed and with vigor. a simple misdemeanor, battery, $2,000 fine, up to six months in jail. it could have been really detrimental and really serious. >> if you're brad's camp and any
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other guys who had to deal with this guy before, will smith, et cetera, are you looking to file assault charges so there is a criminal record and more than a piece of paper, is far more strong. >> absolutely. brad pitt is a wonderful person, a gentleman, i'm sure, doesn't want to push anything or anything else. the message needs to be sent. brad pitt continued to sign autographs. just because brad pitt wasn't hurt. it was a crime because he touched him and offensive. in order to send a message to any else who may fall prey or victim to a nut like this, brad pitt has to pursue this with vigor and might in order to stop people like him. >> as if they don't have to deal with enough in their life with paparazzi. >> and those beautiful children they have. >> lots of them, that's for sure.
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joey jackson, thank you. >> it's been a pleasure. >> for you all, great to have you with this program. i'm flat out of time and that means the most incredible man on television, wolf blitzer, starts no now. >> right now the outrage over v.a. health care is expanding, calling for v.a. secretary's resignation and pressure on president obama to do something to control the damage. the white house secretary is about to take questions for the first time since the inspector gener general's preliminary report came out. you're looking at the briefing room and you'll have live coverage once it gets under way. also a bungled search, officials saying the area they focused the search for flight 370 is wrong this after a u.s. navy official tells cnn those infamous pings did not come from the plane. right now

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