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hello and welcome coming to you live. i'm michael holmes, appreciate your company. coming up here on "cnn newsroom," new details about the top secret material seized by the fbi at donald trump's mar-a-lago home and what the former u.s. president is being investigated for. and brazen attack on celebrated author, what we know about his condition. and as schools reopen here in the u.s., many covid-19 restrictions are easing up. is that a good idea?
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well, we now know why fbi agents searched former u.s. president donald trump's mar-a-lago home, and we're learning details about some of the items they took. according to a warrant that was unsealed on friday agents were looking for evidence of possible crimes including potential violations of the espionage act related to gathering, losing or destroying u.s. defense information. a property receipt also unsealed on friday reveals that fbi agents recovered 11 sets of classified documents including several marked top secret. monday's search also igniting a furious backlash among some trump supporters. the fbi says it is currently investigating what it calls an unprecedented number of threats against the bureau and employees are being urged to remain
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vigilant when working in and around fbi facilities. a closer look now at the documents unsealed on friday and what they reveal about the justice department's investigation. >> on friday a federal court in florida released several pages of documents that represent an unprecedented search and seizure that took place at mar-a-lago, the home of former president donald trump in south florida. so what we learned from these records is that there were 33 different boxes or items carried out of mar-a-lago that become evidence in this ongoing criminal probe into the handling of federal records. that includes a leather bound box of documents with various classified, top secret, specialized compartmented information. so that's a label in the classification system, the highest type of secrecy level that you can have in the federal
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government, ts, sci. there are top secret documents, confidential documents all taken out of mar-a-lago by the fbi when they conducted that search. we also know from these documents that were released that there are three different criminal statutes being investigated here, that investigators believe there would be evidence of these crimes that they would find if they conducted this search -- if and when they conducted this search. that includes the espionage act, the mishandling of records pertaining to the national defense. so the type of forms, the documents, papers that could be very harmful to the united states if they got into the wrong hands. also there is the obstruction of federal investigation -- the obstruction of justice being investigated, a very serious felony. there's also a criminal statute over maintenance of records, the concealment of records that prohibits removing them or hurting them in some way, destroying them. all of this is being
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investigated. no one at this point has been charged in this, and the documents didn't identify who was even under investigation here, but there's a clear statement being made by this search, by these documents of the search warrant that is showing that there was a search for presidential records and also national defense secrets being conducted at mar-a-lago on monday, and that search was fruitful. at the end of the day we did get a statement from donald trump saying all they had to do was ask, all the feds needed to do was ask for this and we would have returned it to them, but that clearly has not been the case given that in the history of this investigation so far we know the national archives was asking for the return of these, they had been subpoenaed, and finally it prompted the search that took place on monday. katelyn polanz, cnn, washington. >> michael zeldin is a former federal prosecutor and host of "that said" with michael zeldin podcast. it's good to see you again.
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we don't know precisely what is in the documents, of course, but what would it take for them to have major consequences for the former president? >> the principal issue is are there classified documents in there that trump knew were classified in which he was in way trying to deliberately with hold from the government because they were dangerous to him? that i think is the most telling argument for a prosecution of him. we're not there factually because we don't know what's in those documents, but the mere possession of documents is bad enough, but if he was doing it if you will to cover something up he's in a much more dangerous take. >> trump has said all the documents were declassified, i did it to myself. and it's interesting, too.
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none actually say the documents have to be classified for them to have been an offense. regardless can he just wave a wand and suddenly it's okay to take sensitive documents to his own home? nuclear program documents, for example, can't be declassified, can they? >> no. and what we have to remember is as the former president he can't declassify anything. he can only declassify as the president. typically when something is to be declassified, there's a process where people get to input into that process, and then that process is documented. now, trump was pretty reckless around classification issues, and it's theoretically possible that at the 11th hour he did a lot of declassifying, but i don't think there's all truth to the notion that everything he declassified is, you know, done properly according to the books. so i think he's got issues still there. >> and when we go back to the
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raid itself and there's a lot of criticism we're hearing on the right and so on, but the doj, the fbi, they don't go in on a hunch, do they? they have needed some actionable evidence to get that warrant, correct? >> exactly. they have to have to have probable cause that a crime occurred or is occurring and there is evidence of that crime at the place to be searched. and the search warrants are usually very particular. you may search this area or that area. and if you look at the warrant that was just released it said you can search trump's office or the place where he keeps his office related materials, so it was a very narrowly crafted warrant, and it was based on probable cause, and it was issued by a judge. so, yes, this is not a fishing expedition by any stretch. >> did it surprise you to see espionage included in the descriptions and obstruction as well? what does that suggest to you
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about potential severity? >> it suggests that the justice department believed before they got this warrant that there was a risk that highly secretive, classified documents were in possession of a person who was not caring for them properly and who probably didn't have a right to have them at all. and so they went in with this warrant in this sort of exigent way. and they decided to charge concealment as the basis for the warrant indicates how seriously they thought this threat was. >> so, you know, putting on your attorney's hat, what happens next? >> what happens next is the justice department goes through the documents and makes a determination whether or not the conduct that we've seen play out
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in public, which is a multi-month process by which the justice department was trying to negotiate with trump to give back documents, which he refused to do, and then there was a warrant that seized them -- whether or not there's evidence in those documents of additional criminal behavior besides holding them improperly. if there is additional evidence of criminal behavior hidden in those documents and there's a sense that trump knew that and that's why he was withholding it, i expect the justice department would be hard-pressed not to charge him criminally. >> time will tell as you say. michael zeldin, always great to have you on in your expertise. >> thank you. from world leaders to celebrated writers the international community speaking out to condemn the stabbing attack on friday on award winning author salman rushdie. our fight it is universal, now more than ever we standby his side.
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the assault happened at a book event in new york state on friday morning. witnesses say a man rushed the stage, stabbing the 75-year-old author at least once in the neck and abdomen. rushdie's agent telling "the new york times" he's on a ventilator with damage to his liver and nerves in his arm and that he might lose an eye. a suspect was taken into custody at the scene. authorities trying to work out a motive, but rushdie has been living in danger for years. >> it's the threat that are loomed over salman rushdie for decades. in 1989 -- issued a religious edict ordering his religious followers to kill the author after the publication of his fourth book. the book initially sparked protest by muslims in the u.k. and india, which then spread throughout the world after the
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fatwa. at times demonstrations were violent, some muslims outraged saying the novel blasphemed against the prophet mohamed and ridiculed against iran. for decades he went into hiding under the protection of the british government, but by 1998 he was able to go public again. >> all of that came to an end ten years later when the united kingdom and iran re-established diplomatic relations, and at that time as part of that re-establishment the condition was iran has to completely distance themselves from that fatwa. >> reporter: but some lingering resentment and threats against rushdie remained. there were renewed protests against him when he received a knighthood in britain for his service to literature. al-qaeda's leader at the time accused the u.k. of insulting islam with that move. and throughout the years a bounty for rushdie offered by
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iranian hard liners has steadily increased to more than $3 million. but throughout his ordeal rushdie tined to write penning 14 novels and other works over his career. he was married four times most recently to a television host -- the lecture where he was attacked on friday in new york was intended to be a discussion of how the u.s. is a place of asylum for writers and other artists, a cause rushdie knew first-hand by continuing to live and work despite the threats against him. >> i mean, it may have been an unpleasant decade, but it was the right fight. you know, it was fighting for the things that i most believe in against things that i most dislike, which are bigotry and blas fchl, censorship. >> earlier i spoke to robin
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wright, a distinguished fellow and a staff writer for "the new yorker." i asked her what she thought about the attack on this celebrated author. >> it's shocking on so many levels to attack the author of a book, to attack someone which is one of the most idyllic places in america. it's been dedicated for more than a century to bringing together americans to talk about the issues of our times. and i've spoken on that amphitheater multiple times. it's just a beautiful setting, and it's a nurturing place, and so that he should be attacked there is a tragedy both personally and for america. >> yeah. the iranian fatwa if indeed this attack is linked to that, it certainly looks that way, that was of course decades ago, 1989. you've written a lot about it. it's never been forgotten in iran, has it, despite that passage of time.
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tell us about that and the reaction you're seeing to this attack. >> it was issued in 1989 just a few months before ayatollah humany died. and it was reaction to salman r rushdie's book. it was a tragedy because he died and the fatwa could never be lifted, never be resolved. the iranians negotiated ten years later with britain where rushdie was a citizen and the president of iran or former at the time said we should consider the rushdie affair completely finished. but this has been a subject of the debate between iranian reformers and hard liners ever since. and just last week the iranian media, the hard line media once again invoked that fatwa and call for rushdie's death, so the timing of the attack is very interesting. >> and it's being praised in
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iran now? >> yes, the reaction in hard line media was immediate. the paper close to ayatollah homani, the supreme leader, immediately praised the attacker as a brave and conscientious person. >> and many thanks to robin wright for that analysis. now fears are growing about the possibility of a nuclear incident after the shelling of ukraine's zaporizhzhia power plant. still to come experts talk to cnn about possible nightmare scenarios. we'll be right back. it's started. somewhere between a cuddle and a struggle, it's...the side hug. tween milestones like this may start at age 9. hpv vaccination - a type of cancer prevention
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in ukraine a stern warning about the situation at the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant. the nation's nuclear operator says the facility is now at risk of violating radiation safety and fire safety standards. the company is blaming damage from recent shelling of the plant, which russia and ukraine blame each other for. in the east of the country ukraine says russian troops gained some ground in one area after attacking the city from multiple directions. but the ukrainian defense has held in other areas. about 50 kilometers to the northwest ukraine says at least two people were killed in an artillery strike at cream on
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friday. he says they should not be allowed to use the so-called visas that allow unrestricted travel through most european country. here's what he said. >> translator: first of all, it should be guaranteed russian murderers and uhaccomplices of state terror cannot use visas. we cannot turn europe into a super market where it doesn't matter who's coming. >> the shelling of the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant sounded an alarm about a potential nuclear incident. while the top u.n. nuclear watchdog warned the risk of a disaster is, quote, very real. zaporizhzhia is the largest nuclear power plant in europe. as david mackenzie now reports
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the situation is taking the continent into uncharted territory. >> this is the first time in modern history or any history that a large nuclear site of this kind has been right smack in the middle of a war zone, a civilian nuclear site. now, i've been speaking to experts and they say the biggest worry isn't necessarily of a munition or rocket hitting the reactor itself. those are heavily protected with a great deal of concrete. it's unlikely it'll spark any issue though it is a worry. the bigger issue is they say if there is in the medium term a shutdown of power or back up of power in that site to stop the cooling oof the fuel rods from which could then lead to a melt down or possibly a leakage of some kind. the last few days certainly have been very alarming. there's been yesterday at least ten rocket strikes or munition strikes against the general area
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of the site. according to ukrainians russia continues to blame the ukrainian side for this, and there doesn't seem to be any movement in solution that stops this zone and its workers there from being put at risk. one of the things people are asking for is to have blue helmets, a peacekeeping force of some kind placed at that site. i think in the short-term that's highly unlikely. never say never. but at the u.n. security council you had the diplomats of both ukraine and russia yet again blaming each other for what is happening, which indicates maybe we're a long way off with some kind of settlement. let's listen to ukraine's ambassador first. >> dear colleagues, none of us can stop the wind if it carries radiation. but together we are capable of stopping a terrorist state. >> reporter: the russian ambassador continues to say that
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ukraine is at fault and using language very similar to the ukrainian side just pointed in the other direction. >> translator: we repeatedly warned our western colleagues if they didn't talk some sense into the key regime it would take the most monstrous and rational steps. >> reporter: the big issue here the two sides are very far apart on those statements, both sides flinging mud at the other. the problem right now is not necessarily who is doing the shelling but it's right there on the front lines unsecured, and as an expert told me everything is long-term. you can't turn off the lights and leave the site. you need the ongoing cooling and safety of those spent fuel rods even, and that includes a long-term solution that might be difficult given this war shows no sign of being resolved one way or the other. >> david mackenzie there for us.
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president. what they found was jaw dropping. according to the property receipt from donald trump's florida residence, the fbi counted away more than 11 boxes of classified materials. one set was labeled with the highest and most sensitive level of secrecy. now, according to the warrant agents executed the search based on potential violations of the espionage act. it also cited possible obstruction of justice and the criminal handling of government records as justification for the search. meanwhile in washington the u.s. house has given democrats and president biden something they desperately wanted. >> the motion is adopted. >> passage of the inflation reduction act, a $750 billion climate, energy and health care
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package meant to also cut inflation. the senate already adopted the legislation, a smaller version of president biden's original build back better act. he claimed victory tweeting, quote, today the american people won, special interest lost. families will see lower prescription drug prices, lower health care costs and lower energy costs. he added, quote, i look forward to signing it into law next week. cnn's jessica dean now with details on what is inside that sweeping bill. >> reporter: democrats and president biden scoring a big win as we saw their massive package focused on climate, taxes, and health care passing out of the house. it is now headed to president biden's desk for his signature. we spent the day hearing debate from both sides, but it was very clear from the beginning this had full democratic support in the house. this was something that passed along party lines just like it did in the senate. the reason behind that, they are using a budget process that
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requires them only to have democratic support so they can pass this out of congress with just their democratic majorities, and that's exactly what happened. just a reminder to everyone a little bit what's in this. there's three different, some $369 billion in climate initiatives. there's also health care provisions in there. they're extending the affordable care act subsidies by three years. they're capping out-of-pocket medicare expenses at $2,000, and also allowing medicare for the first time to negotiate the price of certain drug prices. additionally there are tax provisions in there, namely among them a corporate min pm tax of 15% going to be for the country's largest businesses. they will pay that 15% minimum tax, but again lawmakers now headed out on august recess, they're going back to their districts, back to their states and for those running for re-election, it was very important for democrats to be able to talk about this when
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they went home and say it had passed and be able to discuss what had been put in there. for their part they're going to be able to do that. republican criticize this legislation, it will actually harm businesses not help them, and you can expect to hear more from them on that as we head into november. they're certainly going to be talking very much about inflation and the economy, but the big picture here as the house makes this very historic vote is that it is a win for democrats and one certainly even about a month ago they didn't think they'd be seeing. parts of western europe are suffering through record heat and drought. on friday ireland had its hottest day ever for the month of august reaching almost 32 deg degrees celsius or about 9 fahrenheit. but it's not the only place in europe experiencing severe weather. al gonman joins me now from
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madrid. you've got drought, heat conditions and now high winds creating problems in spain where you are. >> reporter: hi, mike. a music festival on spain's mediterranean coast just south of spain's third largest city, valencia, was suspended aural ein the predawn hours and there are reports of several injuries due to high winds now. spain tweeted 3:00 in the morning local time of winds around 80 kilometers an hour, that's about almost 50 miles an hour at an airport near where the concert site was, and shortly after that social media started to show pictures of this concert scene with the structure of the stage blowing in the wind. there were reports of injuries. we are checking on that, but clearly it seems to be just another one of these events with europe -- much of western europe in its fourth heat wave in this extreme heat and drought' like
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conditions. now, temperatures 40 degrees celsius or 104 degrees fahrenheit is what was reported at 3:00 in the morning in valencia area. that's what's due here in some parts of spain, also in the southwest part of france where forest fires, those wildfires have been burning now for several days, so hundreds of firefighters are in from germany, romania, and other countries, poland, to help out the french authorities there against that fire, which is said to be not advancing anymore at this time but still not stabilized. there are planes in to help the french from greece and from italy. in spain there have been fires in the west and northern part of the countries spain's military has withdrawn some of their air units letting the local units fight, so there's a bit more stabilizization there. but there are drought. like conditions in so many places causing problems. on the rhine river in germany, a
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key point for shipment of grains and coal and chemicals, the water levels low so shipvise to take a lower amount of load and costs are going up there. in england drought-like conditions have got the london fire department fighting, battling hundreds of fires, graph fires right there in the city of london. and in switzerland one of the glaciers has been melting -- a key glacier has been melting, it's been reported this week revealing a plane that crashed there back in the 1960s that had been buried all this time is now in view. farmers in italy and france and other countries suffering trying to get enough water. it's basically a really, really difficult time now in western europe with all the various effects of this high temperatures and extended periods of low rainfall and drought. michael? >> extraordinary period. al goodman, good to see you.
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comcast business. powering possibilities. welcome back. despite china's zero covid policy it is still grappling with covid clusters.
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mainland china reporting more than 640 locally transmitted cases, most in hard hit province of hinan. and japan is grappling with its own resurgence. on wednesday 20 of japan's 47 prefectures saw record daily counts and new infections. on friday alone more than 240,000 cases were reported. and in the united states the centers for disease control easing up on much of its covid-19 guidance. here's what they're advising. no more 6 feet social distancing recommendations, no more screening in most circumstances except in certain group living situations such as prisons, nursing homes, and homeless centers. and no more quarantining after being exposed to the virus. but the cdc is keeping some measures. they're still recommending indoor masking for most of the
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u.s., and they're also recommending that if you're infected with covid you should still isolate. dr. eric is a cardiologist and professor of molecular medicine with scripts research. you wrote a twitter thread saying the cdc is in your words doubling down on its floored not evidence based recommendations. what in your view have been the biggest failures in the new guidance? >> always good to be with you, michael. the sobering part here is the cdc has issued new guidelines of course as schools are coming back and say they're going to protect the vulnerable, but all the things they're doing are not achieving that goal. the first thing is the problem with the five-day isolation as you know we saw how that did not work for president biden. and most people are not
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resolved, they're still infectious most people after five days. so that has to be done with guidance of rapid testing. there's nothing in the new guidelines from that. and we go from there. the fact they haven't revised that fully vaccinated is two doses, and they keep pushing this community level transmission, which is a contrived metric, and tries to soften the amount of risk we all have across the country which would be through transmission level. >> china at one extreme with its zero covid policy, how does the u.s. position on precautions compare to other countries? and are countries looking to the u.s. for leadership on that issue? >> i think they used to, michael, look to us for leadership. but during the pandemic i think we've lost some credibility there. we haven't performed well at all, of course. i think the fact that we have
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relaxed mitigation -- and i'm certainly for schools having less mitigation. we want the kids in school, but our vaccine rates are abysmal. so when you compare to all our peer countries, both the primary vaccines and boosters, boosters in children and adolescents, they're pitifully low. and this is what puts us in a very precarious, vulnerable state. >> in fact, among your criticisms is that the cdc still says two vaccine doses equals fully vaccinated. only 10% i think it is of americans ages 60 to 64 have been fully vaccinated. >> this is amazing to me how this isn't duly emphasized by cdc. if you're 50 or older there's five different studies to show
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survival is enhanced by a fourth shot and everyone under 50 at least should have a third shot. but our entire rate of boosters in the country is less than a third. and as you said for people 60 to 64 is only 10%. and for the people 65 and older or seniors it's only 25%. so we have so many people at risk for hospitalization, intensive care unit and even dying. >> well, speaking of that hundreds of people a day are still dying, and you and i have spoken a few days away about the awful impacts of covid. and even peel in my own day to day life have basically gone back to pre-covid behavior. what is the risk of thatthat complacency particularly with the cdc dropping off
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recommendations. >> the point you're getting at is what worries me the most, and that's the long covid because we don't have a good way to block infections and transmission because our vaccines with omicron particularly this ba.5 variant don't hold up well and we rely on these n95 or kn95 masks, but the use of cdc was to relax the masks. >> i wanted to ask you this, a lot of experts are predicting a bad fall in the northern hemisphere. are you worried about that? >> well, i've got to be optimistic. i'm hoping we'll get a low right now, michael. the only variant that's threatening the u.s. right now is ba.4.6. and we could see a big surprise like omicron once again. >> yeah, yeah. always good to get you on,
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welcome back. the emmy award winning actress anne heche is still on life support, although according to the law in california she's now considered legally dead. her family says she is brain dead, but doctors are still working to determine if she is a match for organ donations. her family called heche a bright
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light, a kind and most joyful soul, a loving mother and loyal friend. and a hollywood co-star is remembering her as a lovely woman. the actress was badly burned a week ago when she slammed her car into a house in los angeles, setting off a fire. that accident still under investigation. a vigil in mexico for ten miners now trapped for more than a week. relatives growing inimpatient. some saying they're not being kept informed about any progress in the rescue efforts. authorities say the response team made three decents into the mine shaft. water levels were still too high. mexico's attorney general office is requesting a judicial hearing to file charges against the owner of the mine. as anxious families wait for news an artist is trying to
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bring them a message for hope. his mural in the town where the mine is shows hands reaching out of a pit. he says he hopes the images can help uplift people during a time of chaos and tragedy. >> translator: these hands are asking for help or at the same time they snl they're getting out or at least that is what i as an artist is hoping for, to show hope. i'm left within that hope we also need to be prepared for bad news. i hope that is not the case here. >> the miners became trapped inside the mine on august 3rd when a tunnel collapsed triggering flooding in three shafts. and finally a french free diver has broken the world record for a dive with fins, reaching a depth of 120 meters. here's what he had to say afterwards side by side with video of the actual dive. >> it was an amazing dive.
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i couldn't believe i made it. i put all my effort this winter, this for my training here to make it. but for sure at the end when you made it, it's bigger than what i can imagine. >> a celebration erupted after the record of 120 meters was confirmed. the actual time of the dive, 3:34. thanks for spending part of your day with me. i'm michael holmes. you can follow me on twitter and instagram @holmescnn. the news continues with my colleague kim brunhuber.
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