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hello welcome to viewers here in the united states around the world. i'm john vause. this is cnn newsroom. donald trump's perch on the republican party has climbed its biggest one so far. an overwhelming primary defeat of liz cheney. the congressional representative for wyoming and the highest ranking republican lawmaker to vote to impeach former president trump over the insurrection on capitol hill. cheney overwhelmingly lost the endorsement and thursday to the trump backed candidate, harry take limit, who embraced trump's false claim that the 2020 election was rigged and it was a sharply congressional action -- a defeat for cheney would have been unthinkable two years ago. she counted where the most political families in wyoming. her father, dick cheney, served as u.s. vice president. after the insurrection the capitol cheney began a self declared mission to ensure that donald trump will never again served in the oval office. a mission she hit once again in
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her concession speech. >> we must be very clear dye about the fed threats we face and what is required to defeat it. i have said, since january 6th, that i will do whatever it takes to ensure that donald trump is never again anywhere near the oval office. i mean it. >> and alaska right now, polls are either closed or are closing. incumbent republican senator, lisa murkowski, who also voted to impeach trump is facing kelechi bakr who was been endorsed by the former president. in an attempted political comeback from former republican vice -- as soon as they become available. back in wyoming, chinese concession speech was more like a call to action. warning freedom must not die, and cannot die. and a warning that we must take action to ensure that freedom will live on. cnn's jeff zeleny has the story from jackson.
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>> congresswoman liz cheney in wyoming concedes defeat in her congressional primary race. but is looking ahead. now the real work begins. and a sweeping speech outside of jackson wyoming on tuesday night. the congresswoman talked about the threats to democracy. she talked about former president donald trump. say she could've won reelection had she followed the path of election lies. she said she was simply not going to do that. >> two years ago, i won this primary with 73% of the vote. i could easily have done the same again. the path was clear. but it would've required that i go along with. president trump's lie about the 2020 election. it would've required that i enable his ongoing election efforts to unravel our democratic system and attacked the foundations of our republic. that was a path i could not that would not fall take. >> the speech from cheney was infused with history. she is a student of history, a
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historian in her own right, talking about the young and fragile democracy that the united states indeed has. she talked about the need to bring americans together, republicans, democrats, independents, she urged them to join her. but she did not say is join her for what, exactly. she tiptoed to the line, clearly making the case that she will be involved in the fight ahead for democracy did not say in one form that would take. she did not talk about a presidential run of her own, as many supporters at her event certainly would like her to do. but she did talk about the urgency facing the country and the imperative nature of republicans and democrats and independents to come together against a trump. she said her greatest school is still keeping him from the oval office. jeff zeleny, cnn, jackson, wyoming. >> once again, we are joined by two republican strategist. alice stewart cnn political correspondent host of the post cost, hot mics from left to
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right. she's off the former communication director for senator ted cruz. also with us, doug hi a 3d decade-long veteran of republican politics which includes time served as a communication director of the republican national committee. >> so alice, first to you, was really no spotless in his campaign for this primary was that she didn't actually have one. she spent most four time washington work on the january six investigation. it seems early on may decision that to stand against trump would cost to her party's endorsement. >> surely have shared knowledge that tonight in her concession speech saying that no position is worth sacrificing the principles that we are elected for. and she understood that. and while she acknowledge that this may be the end of her time in congress, since the beginning of her battle to take it to trump. look, donald trump is accessible and successful in keeping her out for congressional state. now she's going to begin her battle to keep him out of the oval office. she made that quite clear. and we heard in the hageman's
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victory speech, that she says this is about representing the people of wyoming. she said that the people aren't listening to the people of their area or their district. they are not going to be elected. so hageman went into this denying the election results, buying into trump's claims of election fraud, and that was victorious for her. that was successful for her. based on with the people in wyoming wanted. i do not see that as a winning formula in every state. in every congressional district. but in the various red states like wyoming, or donald trump won by more than 16 points, in 2020. this is a way to win a primary. and certainly they will win the general election wyoming. i don't see this as a blanket victory for the general election and all these races across the country. >> what does liz cheney do now? she gives up a very powerful position in congress. especially on the january six committee. you know her voice --
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i'll give you a megaphone you like for her views against trump. what did she do after that? how can be effective? >> we don't know specifically which is going to do but she certainly hinted at this as being the next step. there's a lot of conversation, john, in washington right now but whether not liz cheney has now become an obi-wan kenobi figure. in that if you kill me you only make me stronger. if she was reelected she still has her job to do as a member of congress. now she history to do other things. her spacious out reminded me of ronald reagan, and 1964, and his speech a time for choosing. liz cheney made that choice very early on. this dictates what our future is. it is why you've seen her and her team, typically when you know you are going to lose an election, whether you know you're going to lose it by five points or by 50 points but that does is it really affects all the candidates campaigns and what the team does. they are the our, jake they're going through the motions, they're not running the campaign to the tape like they normally would. that is not what happens with this chain. it is why her remarks tonight are really showing that grace
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under pressure that is what we call courage. >> the person who defeated harry tatum, and alex you mentioned this in our victory speech, she almost sort of channeled donald trump. the language of trump uses him describing liz cheney. listen to this. >> wyoming has drawn a line in the sand and if we put you in power you will be accountable to us. you will answer to us. you will do what is in our best interest. and if you don't, will we will fire you. [applause] wyoming has put the politicians on notice, not just here but all across this great country. that her representatives work for us and not the other way around. >> alison, you mentioned that they now might be a winning strategy and most races but in this one it seems like it will be. because election denier, someone is very critical of cheney, she will be going to congress just simply because of
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the overwhelming republican majority of the state. >> without a doubt. this is a state where you can get away with that. you can get successful by just doing that. and we even saw leading up to today, a lot of democrats who were willing to vote as a republican for liz cheney, simply for the fact they respected her and admired her for standing up to donald trump. and standing up to those that were election deniers. obviously there were not vote for her in the general election. but they saw with liz cheney was doing as the right thing to do in terms of showing support for the integrity of our election. and she was a kamikaze pilot. she understood that this was not going to be a winning race. long ago. tonight her election party she didn't even have television screens up. were you can see the actual results. because they understood how this was going to play out. but she made the decision sometime ago that she was going to move full speed ahead, not
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just with their vote on impeachment. but with her continuing efforts in the january six commission to show that donald trump was wrong to insight the riots on january 6th and her goal, moving forward, is to make sure that he doesn't get back into the oval office. how she does that? whether this presidential run herself or continuing to push the narrative and hold donald trump's speech to the fire. again, she has only begun that battle. >> also looking at primaries in alaska, the results coming in from there at this hour, i'll get them to since we have them. there were no that alaskan governor, sarah palin, also vice presidential nominee from 2000. it is trying to make a political comeback. for those who do not remember sarah palin as vice presidential nominee in 2008. here's a reminder. >> there are next our neighbors and you can actually see russia from land here and alaska. >> they say their first between a hockey mom and a pit bull,
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lipstick. >> those with the days. that, where the chance of palin making a political comeback and the ways peyton was considered a pre-trump. >> she was really the kind of salvo by john mccain who ended up the big donald trump upon obviously. it's very hard to figure out exactly what is going to happen alaska. they're doing rank choice voting for the first time, which is confusing for people to analyze, it is confusing for voters. it is unclear how that is going to resolve itself. there's also a very big senate race happening right now in alaska. where lisa murkowski, who in 2010 lost her primary and their brand as a right in and ultimately overcame that, and won her seat for reelection. he's up again facing a very real challenge. why? because this whole conversation has been about how she voted to impeach donald trump. >> alice to you on that. lisa murkowski, she's been storied representative within the center from alaska and quite a campaign in 2010. she's been there ever since.
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>> she is someone that you never want to rule out because she has, as doug, said defeated the odds of the past. the only thing with her that may cause her some setback is not only did she vote for impeachment against donald trump, she has not been as consistent on the conservative votes in washington as others have on certain issues that are important to the people of alaska. so it might be more than just her opposition to donald trump. and also some of her policy votes that could come back to haunt her in this election. >> liz cheney had a 93% record of voting with trump, or voting for trump policies when the january six insurrection was going on. how does that actually impact who gets a primary who doesn't? >> we deserve conservativism now is how do you stand for donald trump. looking at the dash of you who says the conservative is someone who stands towards history and says stop.
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but that definition, liz cheney is the most conservative republican in the party right now. >> we will see what happens, doug analysis, thank you for coming back and being with us. we appreciate your time. the 2022 primaries taking place, this investigation to donald trump's overturned to overturn georgia's election results including -- the judge is now ordering former trump attorney, jenna alice, to appear before the grand jury in georgia. investigating the former presidents election schemes. fulton county investigators believe alice help trump and his associates push claims of election fraud in georgia. after trump lost to joe biden. the court date is yet to be decided. in the meantime, trump's former personal attorney, rudy giuliani is expected to appear before that special grand jury later today in atlanta. prosecutors informed him on monday, he is now a target of their wide ranging investigation, you're to whether team trump broke state laws for attempted to have georgia's 2020 election results overturned. trump's legal troubles do not overturned their. what is now criminal investigation, to the former presidents most senior aides
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have been questioned over the handling of classified documents. which were found at the sprawling mar-a-lago estate. cnn's, jessica schneider has the details. >> new revelation that former president trump's two white house lawyers interviewed with the fbi about classified documents of mar-a-lago. white house counsel, pat cipollone, and his deputy patch philbin were trump's designated representatives to the national archives when trump left office. they could have insight about what was taken to mar-a-lago, and why 11 sets of classified documents remain there until last monday, when fda gents searched trump's palm beach home. new details come as a court fight for more information about the search is looming. a federal judge announcing he will hold a hearing thursday on whether to publicly release the affidavit that provided the basis for last monday search. the justice department seeking to keep it secret, saying any release would reveal highly sensitive information about witnesses, specific investigative techniques, and it would serve as a roadmap to the governments ongoing investigation.
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cnn and other media outlets have asked the judge to unseal the affidavit, and trump himself must weigh in on whether he wants it released by tomorrow. >> i think it says there are very significant problems here for president trump, and many of his advisers, post presidency. >> trump has repeatedly railed against the search, calling it a witch hunt, and accusing fda jets of stealing three of his passports. trump's attorneys said they had been returned by monday night, with the fbi putting out a statement to make clear they were simply swept up in the search as is routine. in executing search warrants, the fbi follows search and seizure procedures ordered by the courts, then returns items that do not need to be retained for law enforcement purposes. >> whether you are republican or democrat, this is not a machine you want counting your votes. >> meanwhile, trump's former lawyer, rudy giuliani, has officially become a target in another criminal investigation. this one being led by an
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atlanta area prosecutor into efforts by trump and allies to flip election results in georgia, claiming it was rigged. >> the recount being done in georgia will tell us nothing. because these fraudulent ballots will be counted again. >> they look like they are passing out dope. not just the ballots. it is quite clear they are stealing votes. >> giuliani is scheduled to appear before the grand jury tomorrow. it is still unclear if he will answer questions or plead the fifth. >> the statements i made our other attorney-client privilege, between me and him, or they were being made on his behalf in order to defend him. >> president trump may be right behind him in terms of liability. if rudy is in trouble as the target of an investigation, i think trump almost certainly is as well. >> as for the justice department, they've made clear in a court filing this week that that classified information investigation is still ongoing. members of congress, benny
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thompson and carolyn maloney they are accusing ig joseph ghafari of obstructing their investigation into the missing secret service text messages. that allegation was in a letter released on tuesday afternoon. there is no response to the investor generals office just yet. jessica schneider, cnn, washington. >> the white house and democrats celebrating a major legislative victory. president joe biden signed the 750 billion dollar inflation reduction act into law on tuesday. calling it one of the most significant pieces of legislation in u.s. history. >> too often we confuse noise with substance. too often we confuse setbacks with the feet. too often we had the biggest microphones to the critics and the cynics. who delighted declaring failure while those committed to making real progress do the hard work of governing. making progress in this country is as big and complicated has
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mckenzie reporting in from kyiv. >> explosions peppering the horizon in russian occupied crimea. just a few miles away, commuters reacting in shock, filming the blast with their mobile phones. >> even the bus is moving, they say. six kilometers away, buses shaking. the blast at an ammunition depot in northern crimea causing damage to powerlines, a power plant, railway tracks, and the residential buildings branded sabotage by russia's military. kyiv has not claimed responsibility for the incident, but a ukrainian presidential advisor called it demilitarization in action. it's the second major security incident in crimea in just one week. last tuesday, massive explosions at a russian airbase on crimea's west coast close to beach going tourists. a major psychological blow. the russian defense ministry blaming it on accidental
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this primary election is over. but now, the real work begins. >> 29 minutes past the hour. welcome back everybody. liz cheney everybody. one of ten house republicans who voted to impeach donald trump. now, she is the eighth to not return to congress next. here at cnn projects she will lose the republican house primary to trump backed attorney harriet hageman. cheney, in her vice role as the general 60 minutes, has been outspoken about trump's -- hagman has endorsed false claims about election fraud in 2020. the last polls have also just closed in alaska. incumbent republican senator lisa murkowski is expected to advance to the general election
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against three other candidates. and former governor and vice presidential nominee sarah palin looking for a political comeback. she is running for an open house seat. some republicans now are talk about potential presidential bid for liz cheney in 2024. for now, she says she is committed, to keeping donald trump out of the oval office. here she is. >> this is a fight for all of us together. i'm a conservative republican. i believe deeply in the principles and ideals upon which my party was founded. i love it's history, and i love what our party has stood for. but i love my country. more [applause] >> so, i ask you tonight, to join me. as we leave here, let us resolve that we will stand together. republicans, democrats, and independents, against those who would destroy our republic. they are angry, and they are determined. but they have not seen anything
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like the power of americans united in defence of our constitution, and committed to the cause of freedom. there is no greater power on this earth. and with god's help, we will prevail. >> harriet hageman says voters will no longer tolerate representatives to do not represent them. she fired at a raucous crowd of supporters in cheyenne, wyoming. and that's where she put liz on notice. >> wyoming has spoken on behalf of everyone who is concerned that the game is becoming more and more rigged against them. that what wyoming has shown today that while it may not be easy, we can dislodge entrenched politicians, who believe they have risen above the people they are supposed to represent. >> this man is a national port correspondent from political. he joins us from sierra madre,
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california. we'll come back. >> good to be. here >> is there a way -- to change the run in the republican primary in 2024 that would not divide the trump vote, essentially, hand from the nomination? >> i think the only way to for her to run successfully as a republican candidate is if she can clear out the rest of the field. so, i'm talking about the hogans of the world, the maryland governor who is also, you know, a trump critic. but if that lane could consolidate, one that's one big, if and if trump is weak enough, to not run so there are a lot of many trump's running, then you could see a scenario where cheney, even pulling 35% of the vote could, stack up some primaries that is a scenario that could happen. it's a long shot, but it's possible. >> it has really been quite the winning streak for the former president and the candidates he endorse. are we in an, i am not a witch moment, back in 2020, there is still crazy candidates
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nominated. more crazier than a bag of, hammers as a commentator said at the time. -- >> it's possible. certainly, there are some signs in the last couple of weeks, that looks like a wipeout for democrats in the fall is maybe not going to be so bad. i don't think, even democrat expects at this, time will hold on to the house. but i do think the landscape has shifted. some in part, because the candidates the republicans are nominating in some swing states. wyoming is going to have a republican congresswoman. whether it's, it's not gonna be cheney, but they have a republican. in some of these swing states, it means they will have some tough elections. and democrats will pick up some wings. it's possible democrats will end up with some less than catastrophic losses in the house. if they keep the senate. and i think that would be a successful mid term year. >> and obviously donald trump's voice matters a lot. and the washington post looked at just how influential he has. and he is held primaries in 41
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states this year. every race for federal or state wide office with power over elections, 469 contests in all. more than half the republican winners, more than 250 winners, they have endorsed trump's false claims about his defeat to joe biden. and if you look closer at arizona, georgia, michigan, pennsylvania, and wisconsin, all battleground states, 54 winners out of 87 counties have embraced those claims about the election being rigged, as well. you know, there's a lot in that story. but what is interesting, if you look at pennsylvania, the nominees for governor there, which has the most influence over the results of any election, is an election denier, he was at the january 6th insurrection on capitol hill, he has not denied it, there's video of him there. this is doug mastriano. he is someone who could actually have a direct influence on whether or not the votes are counted. because he says -- secretary of state. and a similar situation to, in arizona. so there is a situation brewing here. with all these election officials up and down the ballot, will there be chaos, possibly, and closer elections
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in 2024? >> i think that's exactly right. i think that's what people need to be bracing for, is the possibility that some of these republicans -- mastriano is trailing pretty badly right now in pennsylvania. there is somebody who sent buses to the capital, organize them in a way that the republican candidate, dan cox in maryland, kari lake, at the state level there are elections buyers being nominated not just for governor, but secretary of state as well. and some of these are leaders of the cause. so, i do think -- if democracy was tested, american democracy was tested in 2020, and it clearly was, depending on what happens in the midterms, the test in 2024 may just be that much greater. and i do think there is reason for a real sober kind of thoughtfulness about that election coming up. >> we're looking at a situation now where the checks and balances that held, or worked, in 2020, will not be there in 2024. or they will be greatly weekend
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than they were. >> certainly, if you look at the number of republican congress members who were unwilling to vote to certify the election. can you imagine if the house is held by republicans that would be a lot different. and i would start long before the election, there will be investigations that they will hold, they will have power in that level. but at the state level, that is also significant. and then in the courts. you can imagine a scenario in 2020, if you are a democrat looking at this alarm, you see 2020 as a test run, where trump came close to maybe overturning an election. or at least in some people's estimates it was close. and now, there is this much more time to prepare. so, you can see a scenario in 2020, 2024 where you have 50 cases going up to the supreme court. then, who knows what this court rules? so, i do think there is reason to be watchable's. and these elections matter.
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there is a reason you and i are talk about secretary of state races, for goodness sakes. or even gubernatorial races, which normally would not get a lot of attentions. but they are clearly very important this year. >> absolutely, david, thank you for being with us, david siders, from political. >> and a contentious legal fight in brazil. the stakes for this year's presidential election could not be higher. those details after the break. hey dad, i'm'm almost out. i got yoyou. any questions, c chris? all good, ththanks maura! there you go, one new inhaler! nice did you get my refill too? maybe [door bell] here you go, sir. you're a lifesaver. have a nice day. healthier is managing all your family's prescriptions in one app. cvs pharmacy. healthier happens together your record label is taking off. but so is your sound engineer. you need to hire i need indee indeed you do. indeed instant match instantly delirs quality candidates
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kenya's opposition leader as refused to accept the results of last week's presidential election. the election commission declared his rival an ex president -- formally rejected the outcome of the vote. >> with totally, and no reservations, i reject the
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presidential results announced yesterday. i want to command my opponents who came and cheapen the piece, anderson to continue to do so. doingodinga odingo is now planning a court -- calling it a mathematical absurdity. now to brazil, where the presidential campaign season is officially underway two very different candidates. isa soares has more. the presidential campaign has only just started but many are already afraid of how it may end. with hundreds marching in the capital in defence of brazilian democracy. >> it happened in the united states of america. and it is happening in this country. the constant attack against our democratic institutions. >> the man they say is stoking
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this fear is the incumbent president himself. who has been repeating baseless attacks on the electoral system, promising his opponents a tough fight if he launched his bid for a second term. >> we are the majority, we are the good ones. we are willing to fight for our freedom and our homeland. >> for over a year, bolsonaro has been criticizing electronic voting, saying without any evidence that it is open to fraud. he has called for printed ballots to be used alongside electronic ones. in doing so, has his eyes fully on the presidential prize. >> [interpreter] i have three alternatives for my future. jail, death, or victory. >> it's a rhetoric that both his staunch supporters and party fully back. >> we believe president bolsonaro's criticism to be valid. we have a portion of society, around 15 to 20% which also
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doubts electronic ballots. >> but what his party says is a quest for transparency, many argue is dangerous rhetoric. even prompting civil society figures to sign a letter for democracy. a manifesto in defence of democratic values. jorge luiz bazoro was the president of the supreme electoral court until the beginning of the year, helping organize elections at a national level. he tells me the need for a manifesto shows some are afraid for brazilian democracy. >> the number of times that people asked me if i fear a coup d'état means there is something strange going on. >> and for the man vying for bolsonaro's job, the perceived threat on democracy has a clear origin. >> [interpreter] every day he offends the supreme court. every day, he defends an electoral justice. and every day he offends those who don't like him.
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>> returning to the ballot after more than a decade on the sidelines and after being convicted for corruption, the former president and bolsonaro's main opponent, says he wants to focus on brazil's post pandemic recovery. >> [interpreter] i am older but i am much better, with much more strength and much more courage to make this country succeed. >> but brazil's success is dependent on a smooth election, despite the rhetoric from populist president bolsonaro, the judge tells me the electoral system is strong enough to handle the criticism and says there is some good news. >> around 80% of the population trusts the system, despite all the attacks we've been suffering. our role is to assure that whoever winds in the october elections will be inaugurated on january the 1st. and the plane will land safely. >> still, as the campaign kicks off and that rhetoric pardons, political turbulence - cannot be ruled out. and the right could still be
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bumpy. isa soares, cnn. still to come, like an conspiracies alive and well in brazil born knighted states where election officials are working together to secure a vote in this year's midterm election. we'll have a report when we come back. ♪ you ain't seen nothin' yet ♪ ♪ b-b-baby, you just ain't seen n-n-nothin' yet ♪ ♪ here's something, ♪ ♪ here's something you're never gonna fff-forget, ba ♪ get a dozen shrimp for only one dollar with anyteak entrée. on at applebee's.
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elections security officials have gathered in las vegas with two goals. to test the security of voter machines, and also not stoking election conspiracy theories. cnn's joni sullivan reports. >> so the conspiracy claims all the time of all. the one head of the hydro is cut down, the second head pops up. >> we've had two years of nonstop conspiracy theories about the 2020 election. many of which center around these. voting machines.
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they are in some way hacked and use to steal votes and to steal the election. we are here at defcon and las vegas where some people called, packer summer can't. and hackers are doing their very best as we get to break into these voting machines. >> isn't what you're doing here, by tearing these machines apart and showing that they can be vulnerable, is that not just going to play into more of the fares and more of the conspiracy theories about the election? >> i think a lot of these fearsome conspiracy theories really thrive in darkness. here, we have a clear box model where we opened things up. you're able to look inside. and are actually able to get your hands on these voting machines. it is not that there are not vulnerabilities within these machines, that need to be addressed, just because there are vulnerabilities doesn't mean that they were manipulated or exploited in the way that certain parties are saying that they are. >> how have you spent the weekend tearing apart voting machines?
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you've talked a lot about vulnerabilities. have you ever found evidence that vulnerabilities have been used to change the results of an american election? >> never. the same comes with all the other experts. we've all said that extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. we have never seen that kind of evidence. >> vulnerabilities exist in almost all software. regardless of where you find it. even in nuclear power plants. you will find that. there are a system of defenses and protections to ensure that a bad guy can't get to them. in those voting systems as well. >> worse crimes oversaw election security for the 2020 election before being fired by trump for speaking out against conspiracy theories. >> the biggest vulnerability in democracy is the people. it is the brains. it is the perception hack. >> cyber experts say the big challenge to the 2022 midterms is not the machines, it is
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misinformation. >> i'm afraid if we want to know the vulnerabilities them of the machines i am more afraid about misinformation claiming an attack which did not happen. which would then get a hold of people's minds. >> we want to focus on pushing security forward, instead we are responded to death threats. >> they can get michael warned all about conspiracy theories. they're part of the election security team from maricopa county in arizona. a ground zero of election lies. they are here to work with hackers to make elections more secure, by exposing vulnerabilities and getting them fixed. >> we have not seen a single accusation or conspiracy theory that has produced any actual tangible results. >> conspiracy theories like those being pushed by the my pillow guy have had basic claims like countries like china have hacked american elections or change votes. >> forget about the evidence if, i'm right the time took our country, right now, would you care?
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>> how does it feel as a voting systems expert listening to people like mike lindell. >> it makes me sad. it makes me sad from the fact that all of the resources, all of the energy which could have been used for something beneficial, improving is not misused. it is used to perpetuate misinformation that undermines american democracy. >> the president narrative goes on to further get set in stone. if you people at long enough and many times it becomes kind of that reality. their reality. ultimately, this comes down to voters. what do voters want? do we want to be a democracy? and if the answer is yes, we better start acting like it. >> for many of the machines you saw there in that peace are in the u.s. but they're also used in countries all around the world. we saw hackers putting them to their test.
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one thing that is very important to underline is that as experts and that piece they are hackers. they want to be able to break into systems. to poke holes in them. to find flaws. they said they have not seen in the u.s., any kind of vulnerabilities at the scale where votes would be changed in a way that would overturn an election, despite what the pillow guy, despite with the former u.s. president is saying. back to you. >> thanks for joining us 11, for that. meme stocks are back in a big way. stocks a bit bath and beyond certain answers day. one night the stock was up more than 70%. a lot of those games at the close of the day up 29%. training was halted multiple times because of volatility. an army of traitors coordinating our social media sites like reddit, have been buying chairs, and the stock receives a big boost after revelations that activist investor, ryan call, and made a major bet on the stock price going up. cohen is chairman of gamestop, another mom stop. thank you for joining us on
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