2000 for scott peterson was on trial five months and close to 200 witnesses, then finally, a verdict where the jury in the above-entitled cause, quite a dependent scott peterson, guilty of the crime of murder. >> scot peterson was found guilty of first-degree murder for his wife, laci, and second-degree murder for his unborn child. the judge sentenced him to death. but in 2021, nearly 20 years after the murders, peterson was re-sentenced to life without parole after for the california supreme court found the jury in his case was not screened properly for bias regarding the death penalty. and now, if he does get a new trial based on what the innocence project calls, quote, newly discovered evidence. he'll have another chance at freedom and randi joins us now. >> so what more about this hearing for scott peterson tomorrow? it's going to happen there >> well, we know anderson that scot peterson will join the hearing via zoom from prison

and hearing really centers around this motion that his lawyers with the innocence project filed with the court. in that motion, they say that scot peterson has maintained his innocence for 20 years. and during that time, he's been working with investigators and lawyers there's and has discovered what they call this substantial new evidence which you had actually referenced earlier. we don't know what that evidence is, but they say that it does support his claims of innocence. so they're looking at but the dna, they want some items tested again, retested, and then they also want some new items, new new items tested for dna and they think that there is something they are anderson that could prove his innocence. so we really don't know what to expect tomorrow. we know for sure that no doubt will see more motions filed, more hearings in this case before we know exactly if scott peterson will get a new trial. >> all right. randi kaye. thanks. the news continues right here on cnn outfront next, the breaking news, trump employee number five, breaking his silence and we'll hear >> from the man who was a key witness in the marlon lago classified documents

investigation tonight. here what he has to say about moving trump's boxes of classified documents plus, he is a software engineer hired by trump trump's campaign to find voter fraud. >> and he >> found none >> give you all the details tonight as he's >> warning this evening, trump will try to overturn the election again if he doesn't win there'll be my guest this hour and a passenger on that terrifying flight, the plummeted midair. speaking out says bodies were flying everywhere hitting the ceiling, leaving blood the scene from the exorcist let's go outfront and good evening. i'm erin burnett, outfront tonight. we begin with the breaking news, trump's employee number five, speaking out, the man who was only been known as trump employee number five in the classified documents indictment from jack smith, revealing his identity explaining for the first time how we helped move classified documents for trump. his name is brian butler, a long time chauffeur to trump's family? now, butler spent about 20 years working for trump and he claims it was on june 3, 2022, when trump's personal

aide, walt nauta, the name may be familiar, asked him if he could borrow butler's suv to move luggage from mar-a-lago to the former president's personal plane. now that date is the same date that trump's attorneys met with the fbi, touring a basement storage room to look for documents. it's the same day they signed a document saying they hunted for additional papers and found few butler telling kaitlan collins that the luggage he moved included the white bankers boxes in jack smith's indictment >> they were the boxes that were in the indictment. the white bankers boxes. that's what i remember loading and did you have any time any idea at the time that there was potentially us national security secrets in those boxes? >> no clue no. i had no clue. i mean, we were just taking them out of the escalate, piling them up. i remember they were all stacked on top of each other and then we're lifting them up to the pilots now, butler says he debated going public for months and only recently decided to speak out because he believes that voters

should hear the truth about his former boss and the >> case before the november election and butler's role in all of this didn't end there. he was also involved in conversations about allegedly trying to destroy evidence of a crime at mar-a-lago according to jack smith's indictment, mar-a-lago property manager, carlos de oliviera also told trump employee number five, which of course we now know is brian butler that not want to do all of era to talk to trump employee number four, to see how long camera footage was stored. and we have a lot to get to tonight. i want to get to kaitlan, poland's who has been working on this story with her sources to help break it. she's outfront live near mar-a-lago and kaitlan. what more are you learning from butler we are in it is quite clear from what ryan butler has to say publicly now and also what he spoke to prosecutors about many times is that he is a window, a witness to the alleged obstruction. the allegations against donald trump, walt nauta, and carlos

de olivera, that there was a cover-up for trump because trump did not want to give those classified documents back to the federal government. that is no more apparent that it's so obviously a parent in the indictment in that he's listed as trump employee five, and then he's also in speaking to kaitlan collins, able to say about how oh, he had this longtime friendship with carlos de oliveira, the third person who is a defendant with trump. and that friendship broke down the very last line in the indictment against all three of these men, including donald trump, when prosecutors are describing what happened, there, is they described a moment where brian butler was with carlos de oliviera and gets outreach from the other code defendant walt nauta asking brian butler, is carlos loyal? is he going to remain loyal to trump? butler assures him, yes, he will. this is my friend. he doesn't want to do anything to hurt his

relationship with donald trump. and then trump calls carlos de olivera directly butler in his conversation with kaitlan in collins earlier today describe that taking place on a trip, a birthday celebration that he was having with his dear friend, carlos de oliviera when that call came in from donald trump. here's a little more of what he said >> he takes the call where we're standing in the food court. i think we went to sit down and he i can't remember how long the conversation was, but i know at the end of the conversation when they hung up, carlo said he's gonna get me an attorney did he tell you anything else that trump said to him? >> i didn't ask and i don't remember him saying anything else, but, you know, i was just told not that long, not too long before we're getting him an attorney by walt, and then he gets the call that he's going to give them the internet aaron.

>> so that's the last line in the narrative of the indictment, but the beginning of the end of the friendship of carlos de oliviera and brian butler. now, they do not speak anymore. carlos de olivera is charged with making a false statement to the fbi, is headed to trial alongside donald trump, brian butler phrase here speaking publicly and not using notably, an attorney within the trump legal universe, erin. >> all right. kaitlan. thank you very much. and i want to go now to ryan goodman, our legal analyst, stephanie grisham, the former trump white house press secretary and david axelrod. of course, the former senior adviser to president obama. so ryan a 20 year employee of the trump's, right. who knows the habits, knows the proclivities knows what moves when coming out and talking about all these boxes, how important is the information that he is providing in this case? >> it seems to be incredibly important. he's a direct witness and participant in a large part of the activities

that are indicted. and so he's there when they're talking about information that would be about deleting the video footage to hide it from the fbi. and the grand jury as alleged in the indictment he's there when they are loading trump's plane with the boxes before the fbi arrives at mar-a-lago. same day. you find and to collect the documents that's huge. and he has no ax to grind. he seems have had a good relationship with the trump organization with trump himself for 20 years. and his best friends with one of the other co-defendants. so it seems to be there's just telling the truths that he has an that could be very powerful >> and david butler told cnn that he's speaking publicly now because he believes voters should hear the truth before the november election. obviously, the way that this case is moving right now from a legal perspective, it would appear very unlikely that we get that decision before the election that we know. so it may only be and just more snippets if individuals choose to speak out, do you think this makes a difference to voters

>> look, i think at the margins, maybe i think that people who are paying attention to it will. but a couple of things about this. one is there's a reason why the press doesn't it as lawyers are working so hard to delay these trials, they're trying to push them off past november because they understand that this case, the facts are very, very clear convictions would be damaging and a race that is marginal and could cost them the election. so they're pushing this off. the second thing is tomorrow well, we have the her hearings and those are i think one of the reasons that the republicans are leaning so hard into all of this isn't just to talk about the question of age that her raised, but they want to muddy the waters. and you can see on social media, it's like in reaction to this story, people saying, you know, biden did it, trump, did it trump gets indicted if that's his narrative. so i'm not sure

that this alone will influence events if this thing goes to trial, his testimony sure. could write >> it is important as you note though, that her which is the biden classified documents handling special counsel but that is gonna be tomorrow. stephanie, let me play another exchange though. the butler had with kaitlan. listen to this >> did you ever think to yourself, why were there so many boxes at mar-a-lago? >> for me, i'm just thinking out of the former president and he has a lot of stuff he likes the lug around with them >> and stephanie, i see you sort of smiling. i mean, you know, the lay of the random lay of the land around trump does that sort of ring true to you? i mean, was this a constant sort of shifting and moving of boxes like this >> you know, absolutely. i felt that that a lot of what he said ring true in the boxes was certainly one of them. i mean, all throughout our time at the white house, he would have his boxes there. there was brown

boxes, but if we didn't get these specific big box is on every plane, on every air force, one on marine one, there would be held to pay, so he did like his boxes. now, there were only two or three of them and there were newspaper clippings. it was not, you know, ten to 15 boxes as brian has said. another thing i want to say is that, you know, the mob mentality really rang true to me. he called him the boss, which is what we i'll call him. there were the loyalty tests again, i mean, that happened to all of us. these loyalty test. and then lastly, i'll just say this guy has got nothing to gain right now. i can say, as somebody who was with them all the time for six years and who has spoken out as well? he's going to get attacked by the right. he's going to become, you a disgruntled lower-level hello employee. and he's he's lost really good lifelong friends, which is something i can completely sympathize with. so i think that's something for people to think through, is that he's not gaining anything from doing this. >> brian, you're nodding >> so i completely agree. i think that it makes complete

sense as to why he would come i'm out now publicly because it does look like it's never going to go to trial. and he does want to explain to people why in his view, this is not a witch hunt. it's real. >> and just to go back to >> something, david said, i do think tomorrow we're going to hear from the special counsel, her and the hearings at the house side about his report on biden's handling of classified documents, but it is important to remember that in hur's report he actually says that the trump case is much worse than biden, and he actually says things that now we have mr. butler talking about the ways in which trump tried to hide the documents from the government, putting him on a plane instead, and trying to delete footage. there's nothing like that in the hur report right no. i mean, the deleting footage aspect of this and that separate that all of that. it's still sort of defies the imagination, although i know not your imagination, stephanie, i mean, all of this, even even the phone call that you heard butler just talking about on vacation together and trump calls and offers to get him a lawyer that that also rings true to you

>> absolutely. again, it's kind of this mob bunker mentality that we will pay for your lawyer. we will take care of you. you stick with us and no one can touch you. again, this guy i assume is paying for his own attorney or maybe his attorneys doing it in kind, but it's scary and it cost you a lot of money to speak out as being a lot of money, david, there's less of it, not so much at the rnc because it comes all of these developments as trump's having trouble fundraising. we've just found out that the rnc is doing mass layoffs, cutting vendor contracts and that this is in a much greater sense than would happen with the normal change in leadership at the rnc, which they are going through, of course, what trump's daughter-in-law now running it as someone who's been on the front line of a campaign, how serious could this funds issue be? >> i think very, i mean, money is very, very important in campaigns. it's how you need that money to pay for organization. you need that money to get your message out. i would expect that some of these organizations supporting the president as well as the

president's campaign, are going to start a sustained attack on trump in the next several weeks certainly within months. and he doesn't have the air defenses now to respond to that so it is it is a big deal that they don't have money and i'm sure one of the reasons they're making all these cuts is to trying to avert as much money as they can to the operations in the state aids which are starving and to media. >> all right. thank you all very much. i appreciate it >> next to stark warning from the man, the trump campaign hired to find election fraud. >> that was his >> job to >> show them all of the prod to show the country and he did he looked and looked and looked and he found nothing. but he does say he knows what trump will do if he loses. again, he's my guest next plus a rare sighting of kate middleton after admitting that our first post-surgery family photo was dr. now the royals are resisting calls to release the original unedited photo. how

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example, like if dead people voting impacted the election, can look, he did not find proof of that same thing for non citizens voting in the, voting in the also, voters who voted in two states, or voters who voted twice in the same state, mail ballots being run question fraudulently, every single thing that you may have heard of over these years, every single one of them can block looked into, ran down and found no proof that any impact of the election and ken is now outfront. he is the author of the brand new book disproven my unbiased search for voter fraud. the trump campaign the data that shows why he lost and how we can improve our elections. and can you and i've been speaking over the past year privately and also, you've been on the show before, but the bottom line of all of this, i was just listing through dead people to state's ballot you looked into all of it. >> we looked in the swing states in particular, we looked at every registered voter to determine who was deceased and

who wasn't. we looked as best as we could for every mail ballot cast in the 2020 election that included the swing states to see if we could find evidence that those voters also voted in another state. we found small amounts of that fraud. we found nothing that rose to the level of being able to change an election result. and it's really important that people understand that although there was some fraud, it wasn't enough. and the claims of voter fraud that we're hearing, just don't have a foundation in truth. all right. so let's go through just a few of them so that you're going overall and you looked into all of those. but let's let's delve into a couple in wisconsin, for example eric trump emails a lawyer from the trump campaign who had hired you his name happens to be alex cannon, so eric trump emails him in early december of 2020. can you look into a claim that more than 700,000 people voted twice in wisconsin. that is, can we just saw for second 700,000 people voting twice in one state. that was the claim next morning, can and forwards

it to you. hey, can your problem can you? we will look into this >> it only took you a few hours >> curfew this one down. but you call this by far the wildest of all the claims that yeah. how they react when you told them within hours at this was a bunch of well, this was near the end of a month of doing this sort of thing. and when cannon called me to tell me about the the specifics of this, when he asked me to look at it, he told me he said can tell me why this is wrong. and so he knew that this wasn't going to be true and what had happened was some people got really excited, they misinterpreted the data they looked at, came up with a wild finding wanted the department of justice to come in and i guess start start arresting people in wisconsin. and the reality was they misinterpreted the information it went from the people who did the analysis to a golfer, to the manager of a trump golf course, to eric trump, to alex cannon, to me. and that's just the insanity that was happening at the time.

>> okay. so the birthday problem the this is another one and other fraud claims. so john eastman, who obviously was at the center of the fake elector scheme, he claimed more than 16,000 people in nevada voted in nevada and in another state and is evidenced was that they had the same name and same birthday. so that's why they voted in two different states. you look into that and you find yeah. so there's a well-known problem that hospitals struggle with. big hospitals have the same problem you do when looking at voter data. it's not impossible for two people to share the same name. and the exact same date of birth you get large enough group of people together that happens because how many john smith's do you know right there? we have some really common names in this country and what people frequently in the mistake they made when looking at voter data and trying to match up the information and voter data, they will look at the name and the date of birth and go, well, we have a match, but that matches wrong 90% of the time. >> that is incredible just for people to realize that, right

that statistically, that can happen because you can hear it and say that does sound wrong. but then the statistics of course are what are what our reality. yes. you mentioned at the outset of this conversation though that there was fraud it was diminimus, it wasn't upturn the election. okay. we all know that that's a fact, however nobody wants any fraud. and i know you do believe that there are ways to improve elections absolute, that you would think the democrats or republicans could agree on, like what >> yeah. >> so i'm gonna give you some information that will kind of blow your mind in the state of new york hundreds of people voted in 2020, whose date of birth was either 1,818, 50, or 1,900, all of which are impossible, impossibly old in new jersey, there were thousands like that in new york state, there are thousands with those birthdays gender just registered in new jersey. there are tens of thousands new york has a bigger problem. there are millions of voters who voted in 2020 that the state can't identify because they don't have social security numbers or driver's licenses for those voters. these are problems that

other states don't have. states like nevada and georgia have excellent quality voter data. new jersey and new york don't, they can, but they have to make the effort to clean things up. so these are the things that i think we really need to get to the bottom of. and it's an important conversation for us to have in this country. >> well, it certainly has because i think we can all agree that hdh hasn't gotten us to the point where someone born in aid 1,000 would still be alive, correct. >> all right. thank you very much. can i appreciate hope everyone will read this in focus. i know you go through so many of the detailed examples. thank you. thank you. >> and next, breaking news, a new us intelligence assessment tonight, finding the israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu's viability as a leader may be in jeopardy. >> the >> former israeli prime minister naftali bennett, will be with me to respond. plus a rare apology from the royal family after princess kate, who has not been seen in months, takes responsibility for releasing a dr. family photo. so what is going on >> we are a young republican

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business with freelance ai experts. fiber >> i'm arlette saenz at the white house. and this is cnn breaking news, a new us intelligence assessment finds that israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu's viability, that's the word >> used as a leader quote, may be in jeopardy. the report says, and i quote, distrust of netanyahu's ability to rule has deepened and broadened across the public from its already high levels before the war and we expect large protests demanding his resignation and new elections. this comes as a palestinian aid worker tells out front about the dire situation on the ground in gaza. we received this latest audio message from mahmoud shalabi, who he had been speaking to regularly since the start of the war there is no food to sell. i have seen a man in the market

buying a very crappy type of crest >> and given two children. and i remember him saying, this is for your breakfast and lunch. so make sure you you calculate your portions properly because i have nothing left. and this is your food for the day clarissa ward is outfront, live from jerusalem and clarissa, what more can you tell us about what's happening inside gaza tonight >> what we heard today, erin, from cindy mccain, the director of the world food program, and he warned that famine is quote, imminent in northern gaza if the amount of aid getting in does not increase exponentially, she went on to say that there would need to be 300 trucks a day going into gaza in order to begin to meet

the needs of the people and just to give you a sense of what the figures are yesterday, 225 trucks successfully entered gaza. today, though, just 149 trucks entered gaza and a big part of the problem here, erin, is that even the ones that do go into gaza are having real trouble getting into northern gaza. she had also mentioned she said that airdrops are not practical. that road is the best way to get things in. she also mentioned ships. we had been waiting for a ship to leave cyprus, was supposed to leave yesterday with uae aid on board. the cyprus coast guard coming out and saying that has been delayed for practical reasons, it should happen soon, but really can't underscore enough, aaron, that time is really running out. for the people of gaza. just today, we heard from gaza's health authorities that another two children died as a result of acute malnutrition and dehydration at the kamal adwan

hospital. that's services northern gaza. erin clarissa, there have been hopes of a ceasefire that there would be a ceasefire reached with the beginning of ramadan. where does that stand? >> those hopes seem to have largely faded. talks are continuing, but we saw last night, which was the first night of ramadan, more than 60 the people were killed inside gaza and strikes according to gaza's health ministry, that continues throughout the day, the real concern of course, erin, is what happens with rafah, if you remember this had been what biden president biden called a red line prime minister benjamin netanyahu, doubling down in an injury reviewed saying that he would go ahead with the operation, but us intelligence seems to be that it does not appear that that would be imminent. they haven't seen in this sort of

movements on the ground that they would expect to see to indicate that such a thing would be eminent. erin. >> clarissa. thank you very much. a live from israel tonight and outfront now, the former israeli prime minister, naftali bennett and prime minister, i appreciate your time tonight. it's good to see you again. i know you're here just for another day or so before you're back in israel? the us intelligence committee assessment, which just shared a moment ago, says that netanyahu's viability as a leader may be in jeopardy >> that massive >> protests, even more massive than prior, demanding his resignation are expected. do you agree with the us intelligence assessment? >> well, i think, you know girls a vibrant democracy and it's no secret that there's massive unrest and israel, vis-a-vis the political situation but i also have to send the same token that overwhelming majority of israelis support the goal and the goal is to strike hamas

because we really don't have any choice and in terms of rafah also an overwhelming majority, almost every israeli understands that we have to take rafah if we want to come us to go away as i said, that knowing the cms is telling us that they're going to attack us again and again and again. we really have no choice >> of course their ability to attack you has been dramatically dramatically changed hamas now is not hamas before october. october 7. yes. but if we don't destroy them fully, they'll reconstitute themselves, okay? okay >> nonetheless, you can't >> leave a bit of hamas. so then we'll see hamas rebuild itself, rearm itself, and will meet them another two years down the road that that's something that israel tried for 17 years. >> it failed this does come down to rafah, as you said though, right now, in terms of the us relationship and biden has said that it's a red line. if israel does go in with an assault in rafah, something that at least at this point,

the israelis appear to be going ahead with are saying they're going to do it in their own terms. in fact, when you listen to biden and you listen to netanyahu, they both have a red line and the opposite way on the exact same thing here they are >> would invasion of rafah, would you have urged him not to do would that be a red line? >> is red line, but i'm never going to leave israel. >> you know, i have a red line. you know what the red line is? that october 7 doesn't happen. again. never happens again >> that's public. they're both very frustrated with each other and it's very open. i mean, you heard president biden after the state of the union, right? he wasn't even upset to be overheard criticizing prime minister netanyahu. how deep do you think the rift is between them right now? >> well, you know, always there's personal issues and stuff like that, but i think that we can resolve this by achieving two goals. one is to destroy hamas and the second is to ensure that the 1 million in

gaza citizens that are in rafah are moved from rafah before we take rafah >> so if we do those two >> things, i think both those regulators can do it realistically. where do you move to the area north of khan yunis? there's a fairly big area where we can allow them to be for the meantime, look, it's it's not it's not a five-star hotel, it's not pleasant there. nothing nothing here is something that we wanted to do. this is a big problem. we didn't choose our neighbors to become us. islamic jihad hizballah, i wish our neighbors were vermont and connecticut they aren't and we got to deal with it and no one's gonna do it for us and i think every israeli but wouldn't you go after sinwar on the other leaders of hamas one by one at a time and place of your choosing, much like the united states did with osama bin laden. as opposed to continuing to have an assault in which innocent people are dying every single day. >> well, because it's not about only sinwar, even a you take out sinwar, you still have this

organization called hamas and we have to dismantle the organization so it doesn't rebuild itself and you still think it's a strong enough, deep enough organization after everything you've done to reconstitute itself as it was before? >> yes. >> you need to reach a critical mass of surrender and the destruction of hamas in order for it not to be able to rebuild politico is reporting that biden is so upset by the issue in rafah that he may condition military aid to israel. so specific typically that if israel moves forward with a large-scale invasion of rafah, that the united states could withhold military assistance and weaponry to israel. now, obviously, over history, israel is by far the single largest recipient of us foreign aid in history. counseling formulations has about $300 billion adjusted for inflation >> so if you do you believe that is that a real threat? do you think he would actually make good on that? >> i hope not because we're fighting your war, erin. we're fighting the war against radical islam. hamas is not

about peace, it's not about the palestinians. it's about radical islam, the forefront of radical islam. and mark my words, if we are prevented from defeating radical islam in gaza, you're going to meet radical islam again here in new york. you're going to meet it in london on the streets are going to meet it across the world. every islamic radical terrorists is looking at what's going on in gaza and that's their litmus test do we have the resolve and we knew it's going to be tough. we knew that. but you can't stop in the middle just because it's tough. i want to tell you something when when japan attacked america and killed 2,400 americans at pearl harbor america took time, took four years, 3 million japanese were died in war. but you knew they had them should do the things. >> i don't fit night camps for japanese people. i think that perhaps america was imperfect, but america was darn good in fighting and defeating the

total evil that japan and nazi germany presented back then, were fighting total evil and we might be imperfect, but we're doing everyone's job and the world should back israel. otherwise, everyone's going to face it. >> these zombie murderers are going to come right over here >> so what you call a zombie murderers, obviously other see a different way, maybe not about how by hamas specifically, but i'm talking about isn't broader issue. jonathan glazer, the film maker, who jewish director who won an oscar last night for his holocaust film, the zone of interest, used his acceptance speech, as i know, you maybe aware to condemn israel's actions at this point in the war. here's what he said >> film shows where dehumanization leads at its worst it's shaped all of our past and present right now we stand here as men who refute their jewishness and the holocaust being hijacked by an occupation which has led to conflict for so many innocent people whether the victims of october whether the victims of

october the seventh in israel will the ongoing attack on gaza, all are victims of this to humanization how do we resist >> we stand here as men who refute their jewishness on the holocaust being hijacked by an occupation and then the applause, your response to that? >> it's shameful he thinks is distancing himself from israel and somehow he'll be loved. jews have tried the approach of being murdered again and again, and hoping for sympathy. that's not something that i believe in. i think that we need to be strong. we need to be proud. we're on the right nobody in israel wanted this no one wanted it. we were on our festival in israel and on that morning, i remember just like right now, that morning at 06:30 in the morning when hamas attacked and murdered and raped

are women and kidnapped our kids. and berndt, entire families. >> so who >> is he kissing up to? you think you're going to be more popular because you get some clapping their stand up for your nation, stand up for the right. and you know what, this is not only about jews, it's about right and wrong. and i have moral clarity. they are in the wrong word, the right stan behind us >> i, prime minister bennett, i appreciate your time. thank you very much. >> thank you. >> next conspiracy theories like this one surrounding this picture are running rampant after princess kate admit she, dr. at a family photo so why won't the royal family just released the original picture plus a boeing 787 suddenly plunging in a nosedive, people flying to the cabinet cabin a lot on the ceiling. i'm going to speak to a passenger who was on on board that jet says it looked like a scene from the exorcist >> don for news about the new slim tv has the same news

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now been pulled from circulation only hours after the photo was released on mother's day in the uk the associated press news agency was the first to withdraw it using what they call a kill notification. the api said at closer inspection, it appears that the source has manipulated the image by source. they mean the princess. >> the problem problem is princess charlotte's sleeve isn't where it should be. >> we have experts, photoshop experts, like the guys sitting behind me that it doesn't take a second for them to see that the image was altered and manipulated and her hair ends abruptly. the zipper on kate's sweater is misaligned the other big agency is reuters and afp were quick to issue their own kill notices, telling news outlets not to use the image then more than 24 hours after

she posted it, the princess of wales apologized, saying like many amateur photographers, i do occasionally experiment with editing at one level, this is nothing more than an amateur photographer getting it wrong, but the underlying issue is the fact that the princess of wales has not been seen since having unspecified abdominal surgery back in january. this grainy photograph taken on monday as king traveled to a private appointment with william, is one of the few images that surfaced since then. >> we don't know >> what editing she did. and the palace haven't released the own edited version so is this just an amateur photographers learning experience or is there something more to the picture that's fueled 1,000 words of speculation so richard you

know, such a thing should not spark so much conversation, but in light of the fact that nobody sener and >> nobody knows what happened to her and nobody knows what she went through there. such intense interest. >> so >> if if if there is no nothing wrong other than just a bad edit job, why not just put out the original unedited photo? >> oh, absolutely. >> one of them. i'm sure there were many and you would have a benefit because she could then say, i'm just like you i'm an amateur photographer. i did this and this is what it looked like originally, and this is what i tried to do and it all went horribly wrong. you see the real problem with this picture? is it was cack-handed. >> i >> mean, this was so badly done that let's say she does it. and then it has to go to kensington palace media department. pressed about who they released it as an official news photo. >> i mean, i >> nobody checked it and nobody looked at it to see is it conspiracy? see or is it cockup that's what this comes two. >> and so then the conspiracy theories fill that question

mark, right? fill that space like the vogue cover, right where they evoke cover. she did a few years ago and they just take a six second time lapse, even go look at themselves and they say, oh, now it's her two years ago because they're worried. well, we haven't seen her. >> you see the point here is that the onus is now on the palace they put out a crappy photo which they then had to withdraw and then had to explain. and it is their owners to explain why that's the point. i actually probably think she did do it yourself. i mean, she's an amateur photographer. she probably did have a go at it. what i want to know is why nobody senior up the chain in the palace didn't say right angle, right either, either, didn't notice why they didn't notice it, or why they didn't say something about it. all right. richard, thank you. >> next, a jet pack a packed boeing jet. i'm sorry, nose-dives without notice. if people were flying throughout the cabin tonight, a passenger who was on that jet tells us the pilots chilling description of what went wrong what

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the incident and the flight was from sydney to auckland in new zealand. my next guest is brian joke, had he was on that plane and he shared these photos with us. so in the pictures here that you're seeing for the first time, you can see the force of the jolt was so strong the paneling above the stowage compartment right above your seat, where you would put bags. is broken and it was broken by bodies by people who were hurled out of their seats. >> then >> brian had a conversation with the pilot after the incident, he came back in the plane and he's going to tell you about it because brian is outfront with me now brian, i appreciate your time. thank god. you're okay. physically it can only imagine the trauma is a terrifying incident. >> can you describe to me exactly what >> happened? you know, you're you're flying along. i think in your case, you dozed off and then what >> yeah. thank you >> it was it >> was it was like a scene out of a movie. would actually

you're actually in the movie? i had dozed off and luckily had my seat belt engaged in the next thing you know the plane as i've kinda learned to understand, drops something to the effect of 500 feet instantly. and then have the effect of it coming like a roller coaster and then started to point down and that's when i opened my eyes and there was various individuals at the top of the plane just stuck to the roof and then they fell to the floor and then i just realized i'm not in a movie. this is actually for real and not dreaming is for real. so you're dreaming and it feels like a nose dive. there's a moment where you think maybe it is a dream but you wake up hitting the ceiling >> yeah it might look next to me and the guy was out of his

seat and on the ceiling of the plane and then he felt and heard himself pretty bad and then people were screaming and crying and yeah, it was it was a mass chaos for a few few few short seconds >> there was a moment in your head where you thought oh my god, now this is it. i'm going to die >> there was clearly a moment in my head and then i just kind of resigned to the fact that this could be at this might be it and then the announcement came on. take your seats, please. anyone? there'll be will be >> sending help as quickly as possible. there's some any doctors on board and a few doctors stepped up into the plate and started to give assistance and men some people up that were bleeding and had various cut of injuries putting some neck braces on people. it was touching go the pilot after

this happens comes back to check on everybody after the incident, comes over to where you are? brian, how did he look? >> he was i think he was in shock. i think he felt that he wanted to see what what people were going through he walked to the back and i immediately engage with them and said, what was that? >> and he >> openly admitted he said, i lost control the plane, my gauges just kind of went blank on me and that's when the plane just took a dive >> literally, he says the gauges went blank >> yeah, he said they malfunctioned and did he did he say that >> may >> him so he didn't have the ability then to even >> control it, to fly it. >> he said for that brief moment, he couldn't control anything and that's when the plane just did what it did. and