>> self gives you credit for credit growth, build your credit bills, credit built savings, built dreams hey guys, the story of sin city. sunday on cnn >> cnn good morning, you are live in the scene and newsroom. i'm jim acosta in washington. this morning, a monumental ruling drops in the criminal case against donald trump down in georgia a short time ago. as we've been reporting on cnn, the judge announced that fulton county district attorney fani willis is allowed to continue prosecuting trump and his allies and the georgia election subversion case. but the judge added that the special prosecutor in the case, nathan wade, who has had a relationship with willis must be removed for the case to continue the removal of willis and her team would have almost certainly delay the trial until after the presidential election, that is something trump desperately wants in this case and as other legal cases, nick valencia has had a busy

morning. it continues to be busy outside the fulton county courthouse. nick this ruling. i mean, it delivers an ultimatum to fani willis over her relationship with the lead prosecutor. wade has to go or else walk us through it >> and at this point and easy ultimatum for her to make, it's either her or him that has to go and we know that decision is going to come pretty soon here. we have reached out to nathan wade. we have still not heard back. we've also reached out to the district attorney's office, but they have yet to comment. this is a huge win for fani willis, but it does not come without its criticism. the judge admonishing fani willis for her behavior during her testimony, calling it unprofessional, and also saying that there's a potential for her to receive a gag order. remember, part of what defense attorneys were upset about was the speech this now infamous? speech that she gave immediately after these allegations at big bethel ame, a historic black church here in atlanta during what she addressed to sidestep the allegations or just say that she made mistakes, but that

she's not perfect and now she's going to be allowed to continue on with the case that she started investigating more than three years ago, a case that began with an from his phone call from the former president of the secretary of state here in georgia, in which he tried to get more votes found so he could win the georgia election. the judge here though, handing victory to fani willis and we are waiting to hear from the district attorney's office, but earlier we did speak to defense attorney scott globin, who represented ken chesebro during his portion of this case, and rob men gave us some insight into what potentially defense attorneys will do next after this decision >> if you were being charged with a crime that could land you in prison for a decade plus. and this was happening. would you feel like you were getting a fair shake? no, of course you wouldn't. and so i would be very disappointed if i were okay >> so we should stand by as well. steve sadow is saying basically in his statement that he is planning and appeal. he's probably drafting that

motion as we speak, but for now, the fulton county district attorney's office likely celebrating this victory in this decision from scott mcafee jim. >> all right. nick valencia down at the courthouse in atlanta. let us know of anything develops will go right back to you, but let's continue this conversation in the meantime, joining us now to cnn, chief legal affairs correspondent paula reid, national correspondent kristen holmes. and on my left, chief legal analyst, laura coates, legal analyst, elie orange. i am not used to having so many people with i want to do and i mean, this is an embarrassment of riches i don't know who to go to first, but i'll go to paula first. you've been leading this coverage good part of this morning. >> i have no idea how i mean, i guess she stays on the case. fani willis stays on the case, but it just feels like this is not good. it just feels let's read this one part of the ruling. this finding is by no means an indication that the court condones this tremendous lapse in judgment or the unprofessional manner of the district attorney's testimony during the evidentiary hearing. >> i mean,

>> that it just sounds like yes, the case continues, but it almost feels like is it going to hobble along what i mean, what do you think? >> well, let's put this in the larger context. at some point, trump's lawyers are going to have to defend him in a court of law maybe not this year. based on the facts and the law, but until that they have two goals. the first is to delay all four of his criminal trials. the other is to sow distrust in the criminal justice system. and what we've seen down and fulton county over the past few months has helped him with both of those goals in this language today where the judge described fani willis is having a lapse in judgment, calls her unprofessional on the stance that you repeatedly made bad choices and its anyways that she lied. he described a significant appearance of impropriety that infects the current structure of the prosecution team and basically says, look, your office can recuse, bringing, get ready, your lead prosecutor peter. so while yes, this is about fani willis is fate in terms of leading this. there's something much more at stake which is trust in the judicial system. so anyone who says that this is a win for fani willis, it's a technical victory.

>> but i would >> argue this. this helps that the trump team. yeah. >> and your crush, i do wanna ask you about the political implications because trump is going to run, run out with this, but more, i mean, i have to go to you why let her stay on the case if you're going to go after her in this way. so publicly, tremendous lapse in judgment and so on. i mean, it sounds to me like a gift to the defense if they want to appeal, they want to tie this up further. >> this absolutely gives them ammunition to try to attack her credibility and taint their own version of the jury pool to try to undermine this is income combination with an earlier this week decision to remove and dismiss some of these charges for not having been what they call properly pled. they were to insufficient to lacking in detail to have them be able to prepare for a defense. you combine those two things. because they will use this to suggest that she should not be trying this case. but if she is, then hey, she's not good enough to actually have a burden of proof met. but this is actually pretty extraordinary as a result, the judge did not have the legal basis to say that an appearance

of a conflict was enough to remove. he does talk about the fact that there there was the lapse in judgment. he does not condone it, but they did not meet their burden. those who are moving for this particular case is qualifier to say that this goes to the heart of the defendant's ability to get a fair trial all of the salacious details and we leaned in for the gossip. i certainly did. >> but >> when it comes down to it, none of this trial had anything to do with the underlying facts of this case, even the speech that has been referenced by nick valencia and others, where she talks about what they call the playing the race card, identifying why are you just going after one of my one of my prosecutor, not the rest of them. even that he said did not rise to the level of disqualification. so yes, this takes a hit, but he did say they are so far removed from the actual jury selection to provide a permanent taint on a jury pool. he knows this is down the road. amnesia might set in. >> yeah, and it may an elliot it may help fani willis case. if the case is delayed to some extent because it does provide

a little distance between now and when this case gets going, i suppose i mean that that would be music to this trump team's years as well. but i mean i just wanted to show that the part that the judge has about nathan wade. i mean, this is also brutal, patently unpersuasive explanation for the inaccurate and interrogatories he submitted in his pending divorce case indicates a willingness on his as part to wrongly conceals relationship with attorney. as the case moves forward, reasonable members of the public could easily be left to wonder whether the financial exchanges have continued to result in some form of benefit to the district attorney or even whether the romantic relationship has resumed. and as laura was saying, this has nothing to do with i mean, as as fani willis said, i'm not the one on trial i'll trump in these co-defendants are on trial, but the judges goes after fani willis and nathan wade, if they were as if they were on trump's only and there's there's other language along those lines where i was just trying to find it here yeah. i think that the possible men udacity, i think is the word he uses referring

to fani willis and nathan wade. now, it is important for any judge writing opinion like this to substantiate what how he's landing at the decision he's coming to some of that is assessing the credibility of witnesses. can i as the finder of fact and law, actually believed the things that are being said to me. now, a number of these statements total wine of is this a credibility finding? are you taking a pot shot at the prosecutor and the refute? so for instance, one of them referring to fani willis being unprofessional on the witness stand serves no purpose whatsoever. it doesn't speak to the witnesses actual credibility. she was angry right. now. don't get me wrong. that's great. like laura says to the human element of all this, some of the intrigue and so on. but it doesn't help now i have to push back on you a little bit, jim, that even if this trial is delayed, nothing in here helps fani willis and her case. do you enter the point that krystyna are talking about a little bit earlier, a lot of this actually hertz, the credibility of the office that

said, does it ever seen the legal correctness and sort of the political or moral correctness of all of it. legally, this is sound. you do not have a basis for removing this prosecutor from the case, but there's all kinds of political stuff that we did. >> and this is happening in the middle of a political campaign obviously, kristen and trump is going to run wild with us. he's already been doing it out on the campaign trail at these rallies, talking about fani willis and nathan, where he's almost sounds like struck and lisa page, it's the same very, very similar. i'm sitting at a table with lawyers and i am not a legal person, but i can tell you what you need gold person and that's what happens when lawyers, when i look through this, i see how donald trump's team is going to take advantage of it. now they said what you would expect for them to say, which was that they were disappointed. we got a statement from trump's lawyer, steve sadow. he essentially said, while respecting the court's decision, we believe that the court did not afford appropriate significance of the problem let's take each auriol misconduct of willis and wade,

including the financial benefits testifying on truly about when their personal relationship began, as well as well as extra judicial mlk church speech, where she played the race card and falsely accused the defendants of their and their counsel of racism. then he continues and says, we will use all legal options available to continue to fight to end this case. what should have never been brought in the first place? that's exactly what you'd expect, right? they're not happy. fani willis gets to stay on the case >> that >> moving forward, they want this case would be dismissed. however, when you actually look at how they're going to use this, donald trump is going to repeat some of these lines and rallies. and i'm getting a lot of pushback already online for saying that donald trump trump is going to use this and his supporters are going to eat this up, but this is what i've seen for the last several years. donald trump takes a statement, true >> back in the internet. well but donald takes the nugget of truth and fact from this report and then we'll blow it up and his people will believe them and not just as people, he will be able to reach other people by using in this because that is the tactic he has used since

2016. >> i will say yes, this is as you mentioned, paula, it's a win ish, but there's a lot of good information in here to actually buttressed the credibility of fani willis. it might be surprising. one part in particular, this judge called bs on the idea that two people who brought this motion had proven that the money that was given as a salary was it was a through line to what was used for the vacation that was their burden. just like it'll be the burden of the prosecutors at trial to make their case. also, another aspect of here that they said this was the theory of the defense's case. the defense mean trump in and council that they were bringing this case and prolonging this case, an effort to sustain their romantic relationship. go to west virginia and drive. there are nashville at different points in time. the judge essentially said, well, that can't be true, that she was trying to prolong. i only did she asked for a trial date in six months? after she brought this case, she said that she didn't want to sever these defendants. you wanted them all to stay together. everything

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the fulton county district attorney, fani willis will remain as the lead prosecutor in the rico case in georgia against donald trump and his co-defendants drove me. now cnn senior legal analyst elie honig, and cnn legal analyst michael war what was your take on this ruling and what happens if they bring in? they have to bring another prosecutor. also, the case goes bye-bye, but what does that do to the case? >> so jim, the bottom line here is the most important, which is the da has survive. the da will remain on the case now. she will have to jettison, get rid of of nathan wade for sure. and you raise a really interesting question, what happens with who conducts this case now, my answer if i'm the da, she's got a whole office full of very experienced prosecutors. and by the way, that's one of the curious things about this scenario to begin with, fani willis as the district attorney for fulton county. she's got dozens and dozens of deeply experienced, deeply qualified prosecutors in her office who served the people of atlanta and fulton county. and yet she decided that she had to go

choose this outsider, nathan wade, i guess there's a dispute about whether she was already dating him or not, who had never prosecuted a felony before. well, he's out the door now, and so i think the right move there's an easy one. who've here for fani willis, just pick your best prosecutor from within your office to lead it >> yeah. michael, i mean, what do you think about this rule? i mean, there's a part of me that wonders it just feels it just feels kind of i don't know sickening to the stomach that their personal life got thrown into all of this. and now the judges come out and said, well, you know tremendous lapse in judgment and so on. and it's going to damage this case. it's potentially going to damage and delayed this case your sense of all of it work, is there time for time heals all wounds is does that apply here >> well, i'm glad to be weighted, jim. >> yeah. >> i will tell you. i probably have a different take on it. i think that any injury that has

come to the case has been a self-inflicted wound by the da's office in the case are specifically by the da and my best away >> and so i think the court is simply saying, look, there's an appearance problem here. this is the second judge. now, who's been dealing with the case, jazmin burning the first one said toll the da that she'd used by head judgment, there was a problem an appearance problem and so now we have a second round of that. so this is the kind of situation it could be remedied early on. other words, once the allegations came to light, the motion was filed if she was already in the relationship and this enormous sum of money had been paid, you simply couldn't at that time ask persuade to step aside. she didn't do do that. she pushed on through and so we ended up with a spectacle of a hearing. i don't think it's a good day for the state. it's a win in the sense that she will remain in the case, but it's a loss in the sense that the lens through which this case will be viewed both by the public and probably more importantly by the court, will be one the judge talks about.

there's the odor of modality or the statute of lying is what it boils down to. and falsity that that's it. that's now in the case. and so that may be the lens that we're operating under for a period of time. so we are where we are. there are the prosecutors that can step in. she's got lawyers that have been speaking on behalf of the da's office. there were all these motions and through this process, certainly somebody can kept me in it, continue to move forward with the case. >> yeah. ellie, i mean, maybe i'm wrong here, but i can hear some of our viewers at home saying, why do i know more about the personal life of fani willis and nathan wade than i do about the details of this case. donald trump and these alleged coconspirators trying to overturn election results in georgia. i mean, is there is there some unfairness there or is it as michael was saying, a self-inflicted wound and the legal system and fulton county and in georgia has to deal with it. it just it is what it is. >> i think it's a fair question for people to be wondering about. but conflict of interest matter. they're

important. this is absolutely fair game for a defendant to raise a potential conflict of interests and to get a ruling on in fact, prosecutors are really expected to address conflicts of interests on their own. usually you don't wait for the defendants to raise it. you raise it on your own and you do the right thing. recuse yourself. i suppose there some good faith debate here about whether fani willis should have done on this, but it's really important to keep in mind jim, the appearance of impropriety matters. it's not just superficial, it's not just we like things to look good because it's neater that way. it's because the da is trying to take away a person's liberty. that's the case in the donald trump prosecution in any prosecution, she's trying to lock donald trump up probably for more years than he it has left on his lifespan. that prosecution needs to be pure. it cannot be tainted by conflicts of interests, by the lingering odor of menn udacity, as the judge says. so there's a real problem here and it goes yes, there's a political angle. yes, donald trump will surely utilize this and weaponize it, but it also matters when it comes down to the tegrity of this case

itself. >> and michael very quickly before we get back to the panel with me in the studio it does this case happened before the election? >> i see no way that it happens before the election. >> sort of this this aside or not, the judge already indicated that really back early on that he didn't think that the case given the time estimations it would be likely to hear it before the election all right, guys. thank you very much. really appreciate it and paul, you wanted to chime in on how judge mcafee has handled this? there were a lot of questions because he's pretty young guy. how this was all going to go down. and i suppose this is one of those rulings were sort of made everybody unhappy because fani willis gets to continue with this case. but at the same time, i mean, the way went after her and nathan wade. i mean, it's just a devastating it's brutal. >> it look, if you're making everyone unhappy as a judge, you might be doing a good job of talking to sources in an around this case. and so far, there's been pretty universal praise for the nuanced approach

that he took here. wolter my people who nathan wade is, he's in his early 30s, he's a rookie judge. he's been on the judge for just about a year. mcafee. sorry. then he's handed this case. that is when the homeless high-profile criminal case, certainly of his career, one of the most high-profile in his in his career and in the country. >> but he first had decide whether to disqualify the district attorney and asked him sources, said, what did what did you think you've worked in this case on the defense side and i've told quote, he has managed to navigate the many nuanced issues here on arrive at what i think is probably the result, the best result both sides win a little and there's at least some consequence to the extremely fast and loose behavior regarding the exchange of money. so we had a very difficult task here. yeah, i could he is receiving some praise from defense attorneys is significant also >> worth noting, he's also running for office. yeah. literally, as we speak now, there's a much bigger and broader question about the propriety of judges even being elected in america. that's, we can say that for the p ray

subject but a great subject. but there's a political element to all of this including in the judges approach to writing the opinion. now he did manage quite successfully to thread a needle that both maybe angered and satisfied everybody, but, but, but it's worth knowing noting as a backdrop, the a is still on the campaign trail as we speak. >> so is fani willis, by the way. and at the end of the day, i mean, it's very important to know thy audience right? and the audience that she has to go before is a jury whose own county was impacted by the alleged actions of donald trump and the co-defendants. and so we can certainly talk about the death by 1,000 cuts to credibility, but the end of the day, any sound prosecutor knows that i my personal life might be an issue in this case. it likely will be in the memory, but they're going to balance that as a jury against what is alleged. you have a sweeping rico case, conspiracy cases a mask that people remember shaye moss and ruby freeman anytime someone's mentioned the race card purported to be played by finding willis in a church.

they're going to think about who was targeted by the likes of rudy giuliani in places like fulton county. and it lana and beyond. >> and you're >> having a balancing test. and so what you would have to believe if the political, politics comes into play and there will be that narrative full stop, they will capitalize, they will seize, they will try to discredit and beyond. >> but the >> end of the day the jury is going to have this question. do i care more about the relationship between nathan wade and fani willis or more about the actions? glad you're going to provide evidence for in trial. if you can, at the end of the day, the reason this did not survive is the very reason that fani willis could not succeed in that is your burden of proof matters. you can't intimate or raise your eyebrow high enough to suggest let me believe me, trust me. i don't care as a jury show me they got to do it here. >> i want to say one thing because this happened during the break and it goes to exactly what i was saying. i have gotten multiple text messages now from people close to donald trump who said, this is a win for us. we just won. nathan wade is out. nathan wade was the special prosecutor when i did >> this is not

>> how they're interpreting it. this is not for them when we're doing to trump goes out there because i1, then we can ask the question, this is their internal conversation about how they feel right now that it goes to what i said, they're gonna put out a statement saying we are going to fight this. we think she should've been taken off the case. but any movement for them was a wind, particularly as we talk about, you just heard this lawyer saying that they don't believe this case. it's going to go to trial before november entire goal of all of these different motions and pushes has been to push these trials until after the november election with the hope that donald trump gets elected and get, get rid of all of them. now, obviously there's another option that he doesn't get elected and then he just has a bunch of trials. >> but that's that's the >> georgia case, not right now. you can't pardon >> change out. the justice department. >> president going to trial. what would be complicated >> if there's any one thing that donald j. trump has been more successful than any in the blast five years, it's taking a fact, there's a kernel of legal truth to it. spinning it,

putting it out to the people, getting it like chemali water and confusing the public. he did in the context of one of the new york case is saying, we won on appeal. i don't understand why this is still here because the judge ruled well, the judge in one sentence and ruling in trump's favor, and any sort of confused people. i think this adds more grist to, the former president's ability to confuse the public about what's actually going on. that's the thing that more, i mean, this has been my observation throughout this entire process that he has been able to play the legal system of this country like a fiddle? >> yes >> and the alvin bragg case, for example, may not start now on march 25th, there's a possibility that's gonna get delayed a month there's the immunity questions and the jack smith january 6 case. i mean, the list goes on and on and what are your thoughts about the way that he has just been able to pull this off? i mean, so far, we're not there yet, but every defendant has the right to bring as many sound motions as possible to aid in their defense full stop i am

particularly invested in interested now that so many members of congress, the robert hur testimony and congressman jim jordan allied talking about a two tier justice system. i'm so hopeful that they will recognize that with the rich and the poor and how there is this big device is tier way off here are the wealthy and the powerful. can you delay things until kingdom come? and then there's everybody else that does not have that ability. >> i hope for consistency sake, the same fervor they use to defend on political reasonable defend for everyone else who was a tom dick and harry in the justice system. but at the end of the day, delay is a tactic but you can only kick the can down the road so far if you are him and somebody in an office, but this case is so much more important than just the one we talked about. the audience of one is donald trump. there are co-defendants who are not being held to account in any other state, any other jurisdiction in any other level. they include the false slate of electors. they include conspiracy allegations since they conclude they talk about things that go to the very heart and core of our democracy. and so this is a

case that certainly has an impact on what donald trump will be able to say and what maybe mark meadows can say. but there are more than a dozen others who are not household names who are very much alleged to have engaged in behavior that is antithetical to our democracy. and so we have to be very expansive of how we think of this for not just trump but the rest of the defendants was getting help. it's not just that there are these incredible masterminds who are delaying everything. they're getting help from judges, justices, and apparently prosecutors or whatever the heck happened last night. in new york with this evidence that just came out of nowhere. so the justices of the supreme court, they, they could have resolved this issue of immunity months ago. they opted not to. they're going to hear arguments. it's not expect he's going to win on the merits, but that's helping him with delay. again, even judge mcafee, the things that he said today, helping this strategy of undermining trust, but also delay it took them awhile, right? he had time to do interviews who is predicated on this a few days ago. well, on the justice department goals in new york, it's not just that they have a lot of help >> me say i'm wildly legal experts have said the justice department took way too long.

if you a a special prosecutor in jack smith do the documents case to go after the january 6 case. elliot, any final my final slides, i think and i'm just going to sort of repeat the point. i think the great tragedy in all of this is that whenever any of these matters go to trial, you're going to have to find 12 people who can sit fairly and judgment and the process of tainting a jury pool getting in people's heads with misinformation, disinformation, facts that simply are not true about cases can be many years long process and like your point, jim, the foreign president has played the system like a fiddle and gotten in people's heads. and we'll in this case to making it very hard to define 12 or 14 if alternate americans who can sit in judgment of his actual conduct and not have all this nonsense and lies and untruth kicking around in their heads. as he saw, frankly from the text messages, kristen gotten it's already starting and they're doing it again. >> stop checking your phone down >> if you tell everybody i can very happy.

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states last night that is a huge tornado >> wow. >> oh, my god >> so far at least three people have died and dozens more have been injured in hard-hit areas and parts of indiana and ohio, we have live tv, commercial covering these storms for us, cnn's whitney wild is in winchester, indiana. cnn meteorologist derek van dam joins me live from the cnn weather center whitney. you were on the ground in a town where a suspected tornado touchdown last night. i can see the destruction behind you. tell us what you're seeing >> right now. in this morning light jam, you could really see how vast the destruction is. it just goes on for blacks and i'll take you on a walk with me. we've been out here for several hours and the destruction is so massive, jim, that it takes a while for you to even understand and comprehend what you're looking at. >> this >> was a taco bell drive-thru. so i'll take you through. normally, you'd be driving through. this is the order area. we talked to a guy who

was inside this building right as the tornado head, his name was andi de andy day told us at the time there were seven people inside this taco bell, which is now completely leveled. and if you can have the camera panned over here, i'll show you exactly where he was when this tornado hit. so here jim is the work flooring here of the taco bell, pretty much the only thing that his left on scales andi de jim was right here when this tornado hit. he hid in a cooler. he was in there with his manager the building started shaking, the door, started shaking his co-workers were screaming and he just told them calm down, hold on. and he said it lasted for about five seconds the door shook so rapidly the storm so powerful that it pushed andrew day from this side of the taco bell all the way over to basically where that red car is. so all the way across the restaurant gym, it's this storm was so powerful, but fortunately, it went through quickly. he got out alive.

everybody he was with got out alive. that's the good news here in winchester. where are we know that there were at least 38 people injured. now, it is time for clean up. this is a massive effort. we've seen rescue crews out here with cadaver dogs. this is again a massive cleanup right now, jim, certainly so much work to do, but the good news is that many people, while injured have survived >> wow, that is just incredible destruction there. whitney, derek, let me go to you. what caused all of this? is there still a risk out? how are things going right now? >> i just want to touch on where whitney is our photographer who's behind the lens, actually captured this amazing photo coming out of winchester, indiana just shows the american flag still standing maybe put thereafter the destruction came through, but showing assign of unity for that community as they go through this recovery process? yes. there is still severe weather threats today, but i want to show you and bring attention to some incredible photography and video that was brought in by cnn of a large

tornado in ohio. this is one of many tornadoes that came through. look at it just flickering the lights of this nearby barn. but what's interesting about this video as we analyze it a little further, remember there's only one tornado on average in the month of march for the state of ohio now and we've had several reported so far. but what i noticed on this are what is called horizontal vorticity. do you see that? it's almost like a horizontal tube of air getting sucked into the parent tornado, which is right here. you can see that more in the vertical plane, but to have these horizontal type air tubes moving into this tornado and getting this captured on film is something you don't see every day. so it's important that we point that out and talk about the rarity of that. and also just how impressive it is to see something like that. you can see some of the damage just getting filtered into the air. as this likely caused damage on the ground two homes,

businesses, and likely to livelihoods, jim. >> yeah, that is just terrifying stuff. it looks like something right out of a movie art went wild derek van dam. thank you very much joining me now to talk about the devastation on the ground is rabih under what he's the superintendent of indian lakes schools and ohio rob hope, everything is okay with, you and your loved ones, but how much of a impacted this storm have on the community there, what can you tell us >> it's been a major impact. obviously. it hit last night at about about 08:30, and we immediately open the school up. we're about a mile and a half south of where the storm came through. we opened the school up for folks and it's just been amazing how the community pulled together and just the amount of people who have volunteered to help and support the recovery efforts truly does speak volumes for our community yeah. >> and rob, i mean, tell us about the needs right now power outages, i have to assume

roads. what else >> yeah. one of, the major challenges last night that first responders faced was several gas leaks and obviously down power lines and it made it really difficult to recover some of the victims who are on what is called orchard island, which is across a little bridge out kind of want to the lake and so they resumed recovery hertz this morning around about 09:30 and so we're really hopeful that some folks will be pulled from the homes there. we know there's a lot of devastation specifically on orchard island. and so that's kind of where it's at right now. one of the most difficult things has been communication. our cell phone once a especially when you get in that area, are nonexistent >> rob i mean, let me ask you. i don't know if you saw the tornado firsthand or if you've spoken to folks >> but what >> do you can you tell us what this was like? what are people telling you what this was like as it was taking place?

>> yeah. just just obviously, the noise that everyone always talks about and how it sounded like a freight train coming through and there's also some heavy downpours and even some hail that hit as well and it kinda took a path through really two villages, lake view and russell's point, which are really close together and it came through lakeview and did a lot of damage in downtown lakeview. and then and then went on through russell's point and on the orchard islands. so just the things we're hearing from people is just lots of devastation, lots of property damage and obviously lots of injuries as well all right. >> rob underwood hearts go out to your community, hope everybody is able to get back on their feet quickly there. thank you so much for your time. we really appreciate it. >> thank you. >> all right. we'll be right back >> smr on it tomorrow with nine eastern the planet fitness

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excluded from the ballot. there aren't any opposition candidates that are taking part. there are three other candidates so all being allowed to take part, but none of them are sort of anti-putin night. not. incredibly, none of them are anti-kremlin. none of them are anti-war, and none of them are very popular with the russian public either. so it's a shoo-in essentially for vladimir putin for another six years in office. >> now >> of course, there have been some unexpected acts of defiance over the course of the past several hours this first day of voting in russia, we've seen a number of instances of individuals going into polling stations and tipping dark colored dye the green and blue colored dye onto the ballot papers, spoiling those ballots that we've seen are surtax, at least two different locations, possibly three, with voting booths being set on fire as well. and so these acts of disruption are being treated very serious, seriously by the russian authorities. the eve of

the election, the authorities came out and said, any attempts to engage in an unauthorized protests or to disrupt the election. your face very serious legal consequences on sunday, the expectation is that the may be something else happen in the sense that alexey navalny, the russian provenance opposite addition figure who died last month in his arctic penal colony. his widow as called for russians to gather on mass at polling stations at a certain points at the weekend on sunday. and to kind of show collectively their opposition to what's taking place. in russia. but we don't quite know what that's yet going to look like. jim >> all right. matthew chance. thank you very much. fascinating. a reporting there appreciated joining us now seeing in national security analyst and former deputy director of national intelligence, betsy and her best, i always feel it feels a little goofy. or misleading really to call this an election, this is a selection

in many ways for the russian people, and that extraordinary video that matthew chance was just showing a few moments ago. there are these acts of defiance, and i just wonder in the long view is vladimir putin sowing the seeds of his own downfall eventually? >> or does he have such >> a stranglehold on this country that it's just it's unforeseeable that he might leave the scene i heard a really good anecdote today about what russians were calling this and they don't call it an election, they call it the voting, which i think really explains to >> you that this is just a process and even putin spokesperson last summer in an interview was just saying it's a bureaucratic exercise and expensive one. putin put a billion reportedly into this. so he's taking it very seriously, but the idea of like where would this all lead some very depressing pulling out of russia that shows just wide port for putin at some plus

percent. so even if you do some discounting, it's very strong. we have to remember about a half, 1 million people who were potentially opposition type people have left the country, right? so were there in jail or they're in jail? and these acts of defiance really acts of bravery. >> yeah, because who knows what's going to happen to that, that young woman right there. >> and >> when you talk about the popularity that exists in russia for putin part of that has to be because of the russian state media apparatus. i mean, you and i are both old enough to remember when russia had this sort of period of opening and democracy was starting to take hold of some extent in russia and that is just gone. this is gone, right? i mean, remember the g7, this, this group of industrial nations became the g8, became the g8. i remember you were helping build political parties with the support of the russian

government during that period of time. and now, you know, now it's really not just an authoritarian state, but it's moving toward a totalitarian state. yeah, people know what's expected of them. >> and putin is, i mean, i, want to say he's a spring chicken, but he's young enough to continue this into the 2030s, as we've been saying, yes, 71. and i do want to shift topics here because there were playing this during the news cash yesterday. chuck schumer, the senate majority leader offering this pretty blistering critique of israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu, calling for new elections, saying you should be voted out, that he's standing in the way essentially of any kind of resolution in this war between israel and hamas. you, what is your sense of things right now? i mean is netanyahu really going anywhere is there any prospect of that taking place? >> so what i think is that on the american side? yeah. >> we're letting our emotions takeover and i think that these

statements including a very unprecedented critique of the netanyahu government in the annual threat assessment provided by the office of the director of national intelligence, which is the the intelligence community view unprecedented. we don't usually dabble in having a comment about the state of democracy in an alliance. >> i think >> these are mistakes honestly, because this needs to be worked on behind the scenes diplomatically absolutely. >> because it actually it can be counter-productive. these kind of statements help netanyahu >> yeah. but what about but we can play it >> and you've been on this side of things in the national security round, but you know, there's a political side of this. president is dealing with huge domestic political blowback inside the democratic party over his support of netanyahu, his support of israel, which has been ironclad up until just recently where it now it now there are some

cracks in that relationship how does how does i mean how should the administration move forward here is is there much they can do? >> i feel like it's easy to play monday morning quarterback. right? and so now they're playing catch-up politically. and i think that's part of what's going on with schumer statement here. but we have to remember, what are we? expect from israel here if we expect that this is going to help benny gantz, i don't think that that is the case. the opposite liners it is. and when you look at the polling in israel and you look at the us plan being put out majority's of israelis don't support that. they're with the position being put out by netanyahu. so this is like we've got to be maybe not too cute by half. >> yeah. >> but i mean, you and i are talking about this during the break. i mean, there are folks like jose andres doing this amazing humanitarian work, the

famine, the folks are on the brink of starvation in gaza. that's real. >> and you have to give credit for the administration in this that without this tough wording i don't think that we would be seeing the shifts that we are seeing, particularly over the last week yeah. in terms of israel taking very, very seriously that they need to start playing the offense in terms of providing assistance even though 70% of israelis don't want them to do that. >> all right, very, are best center. thanks for giving us a lot to think about heading into the weekend. really appreciate and thank you very much for joining us. it's a busy day. busy hour as always, i'm jim acosta, next hour of newsroom starts right after a quick break. have a great >> he was caught in the trap. any couldn't get out. >> vegas was having an identity crisis that was the beginning of the downfall. but vegas at a different idea, vegas, the story you have sensitive sunday at ten on cnn are the facts

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