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president after he said it's >> practically impossible to secure the bond, nearly half 1 billion. he needs the deliver seven days from now. also tonight, the blood bath. he promised if he's not back in the white house and why the battle over what he was actually talking about at a rally over the weekend may have over shout out to all the rest of what he said were keeping them honest and more exclusive reporting from haiti and how ordinary people they're taking desperate measures to try and stay safe from the growing vial good evening. we begin tonight with the former president, a self-proclaimed multibillionair e telling a new york chord he can't secure the nearly half $1 billion bond in his civil fraud case in a court filing today, just a week from the deadline, his attorney wrote the amount of the judgment with interests exceeds $464 million, and very few bonding companies will consider a bond of anything approaching that magnitude. 10 million of that 464 million years from the part of the judgment against eric and don junior. and just moments ago, their dad on his social network, the man who often boast about how liquid he is, rights, the bonding
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companies have never heard of such a bond of this size before, nor do they have the ability to post such a bond even if they wanted to join his now at trump, biographer and investigative reporter, david kate johnson, cnn senior legal analyst, elie honig, and cnn's kara scannell. so more of the former president's attorneys say. >> so we learned in this that they had approached 30 different underwriter there's some people that would secure the bond and none of them were willing to do this, including some of the biggest insurance companies in the world. no, trump's lawyers say that some of the reason why they wouldn't do this is because they have their own internal limits not to secure a bond in excess of $100 million. trump needs five times that amount. so that was one of the big issues, but they said what the major obstacle that they faced was that none of these insurers would accept real estate as collateral against the money that they wouldn't underwrite. so they said they wanted only cash or stocks, something that could quickly turn it to cash. and trump doesn't have that on hand. they acknowledged that in this filing, and so they came to the judge saying they are unable to get this bond as part of their effort to try to either have the judge knocked down the size of the bond will
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tell them they don't have to post it and just kind of take them on faith that they can. the new york attorney general's loves can take his assets once this appeal process is over what's the next step? >> well, either he posts the boundary, doesn't and it's important to understand. he gets to appeal no matter what there's been, frankly, a little bit of misreporting that he cannot appeal until he posted ban. he can appeal. that's a constitutional right that he has. but the difference is if he manages to somehow come up with the money or get a bond, then letitia james, who's the plaintiff in this case, cannot prior to seize his assets in the meantime, while the appeals pending. but if he fails to post that bond come monday, yes, he gets to appeal. but letitia james is going to start seizing his assets now it's not an immediate process is not going to turn trump tower into james tower immediately, but she can start the process to actually take control all and then liquidate, sell off some of those assets. but then >> who decides if they would lower the bond. >> so this is what trump is now asking the new york appeals court to do. he seven, that would be done before next monday. he's saying i need you
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to do before next monday. and it's worth noting interested. there are examples and trump cites some of these brief where courts of appeals have substantially lowered bonds. there's one example in the brief or the court had a $38 billion judgment lowered the bond to 1 billion. there's another example where there was a $30,000,000 bond that was lowered down to six figures. so courts of appeals will take big numbers down on the bond, but it's up to the court of appeals, david. >> i mean, what does all this indicates to you about the foreign presence, financial situation? >> well, donald, certainly not worth the $10 billion that he claimed. and a bond is not the only solution for him here, anderson he could borrow against some of his real estate. here's the problem he faces well, if you have a mortgage on your home and you need some money, so you want to get a home equity loan or second mortgage, you can't get it without the approval and permission of the first mortgage holder and i suspect that trump has run into
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problems with first mortgage holders saying no, we're not going to let you put any additional leans on these properties of years so what would be the next step for the attorney general? >> i mean, they have put the posture this whole time that they're going to be aggressive in this case, they're going to move forward. so there's no sense that they would reach some kind of deal on their own. they've opposed any kind of reduction in the bond and any delay in their posting of it. so i think we will see them begin to take take the first steps to try to seize whether it's specific properties bank accounts, all of his assets, they do have a very good sense of this company having spent years investigating them. so i think we'll see them move pretty quickly out of the gate. >> is it likely that an appeals court would knock down? the i mean, you said there are other examples of them knocking down a bond, but if they were to do that, is it likely that would be done in the next seven days? do they move that fast? it would have to be >> done in the next seven days because if not, then monday is monday is a strict deadline and the arguments that trump makes
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is he says he has likelihood of prevailing on the ultimate appeal. this is actually separate from the appeal of the case itself. he argues the award was excessive. they were defects in the actual ruling and he says, i need this bond put on hold because if not, i will suffer irreparable financial damage. i will lose money. that i can never make back, but yes, the court of appeals is going to have to rule on this by monday. yeah. i mean, david rohde ella is referencing is the lawyers are for trump are saying he shouldn't be forced to sell property to raise the money because it would result in massive irrevocable losses, textbook route, irreparable injury in quote, given the judgment and the 91 million bond that he posted for e. jean carroll case, spending pending appeal hizon got the tens of millions dollars in legal fees, fees enlarged part to his pack. where do you see the future of his personal fortune and business heading >> well clearly, as elie points out, the court has a lot of
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discretion about what to do here. they could lower this, but it could also, by the way, just sit on it. there's no requirement for the intermediate court of appeals in new york to act on this. and trump doesn't have a right to appeal to the higher court that as he can ask, but the highest court in new york can simply say we don't want to hear this. but all this shows the trump is under tremendous financial pressure. and in every area of his life, i mean, one simple example, he had a party at mar-a-lago and you had to pay for your drinks? that's just not usually the way you do things with a fundraiser. >> david kay johnson, elie honig, kara scannell. thank you. the former president continued to complain about the upper after he warned at a rally over the weekend that there would be a bloodbath he's not elected. quoting now from a social media post today, the fake news media or excuse me, the fake news made a big deal out of the word bloodbath, knowing that it was about are shrinking auto manufacturing business. and the fact that they use the same name all the time now, before we go any
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further, here's what he actually said in context. saturday in ohio >> we're going to put a 100% tariff on every single car that comes across the line. and your dr. to be able to sell them it's you guys. if i get elected. now if i don't get elected, it's going to be a bloodbath for the whole that's gonna be the least of it. it's going to be a bloodbath for the conscience so as you hear, he certainly did start off by talking about car makers and apparently a bloodbath if he's not elected for the whole car industry, but >> he stopped himself and then elaborated saying, quote, that would be the least of it, meaning the car industry then said it's going to be a bloodbath for the country, keeping them honest. the former president now backtracking and claiming he was just talking about cars but in the same speech, he said that if he does not win in november, it might be the last election this country has. and this is what trump does. we know this. he uses apocalyptic language and incendiary rhetoric, thin claims. he's being misinterpreted. it's not anything new for the former president. just ask a fellow republican said this about trump's speech the general
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tone of the speech is why is why many americans continue to wonder, should president trump be president that kind of rhetoric. it's always on the edge, maybe doesn't cross, maybe does but depending upon your perspective, that's louisiana republican senate bill cassidy conceding a point about trump's events that many if not most, and his party gloss over now, trump said plenty of other stuff as well. here's how the rally began. >> please rise for the horribly at unfairly treated january 6, hostages? >> those hostages he's referring to, of course, are the jail january 6 rioters, four of whom the washington post identified as having been charged with assaulting police officers. that's the former president's saluted over the weekend. people who stormed the capitol after another inflammatory speech of his, whom he prays with his very first words on saturday well, thank you very much. and you see the spirit from the
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hostages and that's what they are as hostages. they'd been treated terribly and very unfairly. and, you know that and everybody knows that. and we're going to be working on that suit as the first day we get into office was going to save our country. we're going to work with the people to treat those unbelievable patriots. and they were unbelievable patriots and our hostages and. patriots. this is what he said about migrants >> young people that are in jail for years. if you call him people, i don't know if you call them people in some cases than not people in my opinion and good, but i'm not allowed to say that because the radical left says that's a terrible thing to say >> and before he was done, trump added in another thinly veiled fred we better straighten out our elections. we better get smart because the people of the country are not going to take it. we're not going to take it. we're not going to take it the longer perspective now from conservative attorney george
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conway and form a capitol police officer, harry dunn, who should mention is running in maryland's third congressional district as a democrat. >> george, >> i mean, we i feel like we've had this conversation and they're not on this particular word before, but hearing him talk about a bloodbath for the country came to mind >> it's classic donald trump. i mean, the eu the context here isn't that he was talking about the auto industry. he was talking about the auto industry, but he he uses this apocalyptic language, this violent language consistently almost on any topic and the reason fundamentally is true context and the true context is his state of mind. his mental, his mental abilities, and his personality disorders. he is a narcissistic, psychopathic. i mean, if you look at the definitions in the dsm-5 the diagnostic and statistical man manual for mental disorders. he is clearly associate path and a psychopath. and that that's connotes an individual who has
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no conscience, no limit sees nope, is a pathological liar as we see about his discussion of the january 6, the so-called stolen election. i mean, he cannot help himself. he does this stuff because he doesn't care about the consequences of because he catastrophize everything in order to cause his, his, his cultic supporters to support him and to do his bidding. and it's just i think we've been dancing around the main problem here. it's not his rhetoric. i mean, his rhetoric does cause problems, but the cause of his rhetoric is his fundamental mental instability officer done. i mean, you are firsthand witness to the attack on the capitol you you know what happened that day when you hear the former president united states calling these attackers hostages, what, what do you think? >> anderson good. to be, what you doing, good to see you. my friend. i'm not surprised. it
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is more of the same things that we've heard from him before. the rhetoric that he continued to spew leading up to january 6 fight like hell, you won't have a country left he said those things in the end digital, that attack the capital. my fellow officers and myself, that would end those individuals parotid those same phrases while they were attacking us, while they're marching through the halls of the capital. so they don't fall. those roles words, they don't fall upon deaf, deaf ears. donald trump knows what he's doing when he says that and he knows that his words have power and he knows that individuals will will follow what he says. now it's clear he may have been talking about the auto industry, but who uses the term bloodbath to talk about the auto industry? bloodbath as a violent term. and i've only heard it used in one way. oh, even knew what he was doing and he's hoping that somehow secretly his followers are listening to what he's
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saying. he's saying the quiet part out loud. he's hoping that they're reading between the lines to say if you know what i mean? >> george, the form prayers also said, if he loses the election, quote, i don't think you're going to have another election and certainly not an election that's meaningful >> it seems like most people >> just shrug this stuff off at this point as o, that's just trumping. trump. >> you can't shrug it off. i mean, that is classic. i mean, what psychologists would call that, that's classic projection. he is stating what he intends and he's he's not well, he is not he is just not well. and that's the reason why he says all these things. no normal person would say these things in the problem we have is that people want to fit donald trump into a normal mode. it gives, it brings to mind, i think one of the things failures of the media is that they've tried to explain him in the way that you would explain a normal, healthy, or somewhat eccentrics human being. but he is completely off his rocker it reminds me, for example, of when the former
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head of this network, chris licked met with donald trump before that, cnn town hall and said, go out there and have fun. that's not something you say to associate pat. that's not something you say to a psychopath. the problem we have with donald trump, and i think it's going to be, i think the floodgates on this are going to open is that we people have tried to normalize him for too long. he is definitively manifestly unwell he he is a sick person as the president. president biden says, he's a sick puppy. >> and also officer, i mean, given the i mean, this is going to be a long campaign and if this is the rhetoric at this stage of the campaign, i mean, do you talk to your colleagues officer done about this type of language is our worry among from you or others that something like gender six would happen again. >> sure. but to go back to the point about donald trump saying that if he doesn't win, there's going to know whether elections or anything like that. i'd argue the opposite.
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i believe that if he does win, there would be no other elections. i mean, he said it himself that he wants to be a dictator. at what point do we stop? talking about his rhetoric? and on the surface level and actually take it for what it is he's proven to be a man of his word when it comes to threats like dead. so i think we have to the courts aren't doing it. congress isn't doing it. although what that would argue that's why i'm running for congress to do something more than what's being done right now. but it's up to the voters that are up to it's up to us. we are the people that's going to hold donald trump accountable and responsible and to talk about january 6 happened again. the point of accountability is to deter things from like this from happening again. open to this point. yeah, there's people still that have been held accountable for their crimes. the foot soldiers, if you will. >> but >> overall, we're still litigating if the president can be held accountable for this three years later. something is the justice system is broken
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people are being held accountable everybody except for him. and we need to do it as americans is it's up to us to save it because it's clear that the supreme court isn't going to do it. we're seeing that the aldi's hiccups that jack smith's investigations are are common across. but it's up to the american people and we need to do it at the ballot box, just like we did before we rejected him before. and we've got we'd have to do it again. >> her done. appreciate your time. george conway as well. thank you. coming up next because of reporting from the growing chaos in haiti, david culver joins us live from port-au-prince of capital. he describes as post-apocalyptic. also, cnn's jake tapper on the release of or wrongly convicted man after more than a dozen years in prison. and how this remarkable story was made possible in part by jake tapper is dad will explain that ahead >> with jake tapper. we days it for cnn stein for news about the new slim t.v. as the same news programming you love starting at $40 a month. it's the same news programming you
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>> means that the uncertainty around the fate of what is known as senate bill four, sb4 continues to hang in the courts then essentially, what the us supreme court ruling today says is that it's an indefinite and possibly temporary block of this bill. and it's a highly controversial bill that has been tied up in courts since it was signed hi and by texas governor greg abbott back in december essentially gives local law enforcement here in texas the ability to arrest people they suspect of entering texas illegally? clean it also gives judges the ability to deport migrants back to mexico. this has been criticized by immigrant rights advocates and the biden administration have brought these lawsuits. now, if the us supreme court doesn't issue any rulings on this in the coming weeks, there is a court date scheduled for for early next month were oral arguments are expected to be heard in the fifth circuit fifth circuit court of appeals in new orleans so it's exactly it's very difficult to tell at this point exactly how this is
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going to play out in the court system. but for now, anderson, the bottom line is that this controversial bill here in texas will not take effect for the time being. >> 11. derek, thanks very much. now, we go to haiti. and what weeks of growing disorder and violence during the daily existence of people who live there. but i've seen their lives. narrowed by down to the very, down to the very basics, including simple survival cnn's david culver recently managed to get back into haiti. here's his exclusive report. >> would it prints feels post apocalyptic. >> this is basically the aftermath of the war, driving through the battle routes between gangs and police, we dodge a massive craters and piles of burning trash the police controlled these roads leading to haiti's international airport for today, at least. it's been shut for weeks, outfront. checkpoints to search for suspected gang numbers and an armored truck to keep watch. it sits beaten and battered >> less than a month ago, we flew in and out on commercial
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flights here. now, it's desolate >> the country is in chaos, essentially held hostage by gangs eager to expand their reign of terror over the weekend, more businesses looted in cars, stores pull it gangs leaving behind a scorched path of rune were headed to one of the last remaining hospital trauma centers. that's still functioning in port-au-prince >> february the 29th was probably to worse >> and as soon as we meet one of the doctors, call comes down. all right. go ahead. if you need to get it. >> a gunshot victim heading into surgery, he takes us to him most of those cases that are brought here are gunshot victims from the gang violence with the patient's family giving us permission. we'd go in as staff prepared to operate we're told the 24 year-old truck driver was caught in the crossfire between police and gangs. >> the dr. >> is showing me here images that are very disturbing, but they show an entry womb of a bowl. it basically around the temple and went right through
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and cause damage to at least one eye. >> the dr. tells us the >> man's lost vision in both eyes another bullet hit his arm and so they will have to amputate his arm we peer into the >> icu. >> it's full or most of these gunshot victims all at the mars. she's in pain. she feels the pain in her leg. >> and so how did it happen? where were you? >> she was my entered the market at six years old or reminder? no one is shielded from the violence that's gripped haiti's capital in recent weeks police are exhausted one local commander telling me morale is broken and that the gangs have more money and resources than they do. low on ammo, their squad cars out of gas. >> it is >> personal for the commander. he was forced out with his family from their own home. and now this is his helm,
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essentially the police, at least in this community, do have backup in the form of local residents. >> do you feel >> like gangs are trying to move in and take this area? >> yes. >> for sure. >> what community leaders call for peace, they admit they're tired of feeling threatened so much. so some have created their own checkpoint it's embarrass kate staff 24/7, redirecting traffic and determining who comes in not everyone gets out. your see right here, this intersection, there's a massive burn pile this is actually where the community takes justice into their own hands >> about a week ago is the most recent such case >> they >> captured four suspected gang members they brought them here, killed them with machetes. and set their bodies fire >> the gruesome vigilante >> acts recorded in part as a warning to the gangs. but even amid utter turmoil, life moves
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four. and within moments to celebrate outside the church is bridesmaids excitedly awaiting their cute walk down the aisle port-au-prince is a city now shattered by the relentless blast of violence that are forced more than 300,000 of its residents out their homes. where are you staying here? where's your home in this facility >> right up there >> they take refuge in places like this school, classrooms, turned dorm rooms are more than 1,500 people cram in so she's showing us this is her style. >> that's first brain. and this is where she is set up right now in the classroom next door, we meet this woman husband killed by gang members. she and her five-year-old, like many here, have been forced to move every few weeks were sleeping hungry. we're in misery. she tells me is that we'd probably be better off
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dead then living this life >> and david, i mean, is there are there groups running these makeshift camps, how are people who need treatment and how did they get into the hospitals? how are they getting food? >> that's part of the biggest challenge here as far as those camps, i mean, much like this country, there's no one really running that people are having to figure out how to run it themselves. and there was an added layer of conflict with that anderson because we'd have folks come up to us and physically grab us and explain to us how they were terrified and i assumed it was because of the gangs and they said not just the gangs. we've now been forced into a community that doesn't want us and they are also attacking us and it's because the folks who are their neighbors now look at them as drawing unwanted attention in bringing more gangs into that communities. they fear they're essentially a magnet for more trouble. as far as getting to the hospitals. that is a huge issue right now and there's basically no ambulance system. so you have people who will often be brought on motorbikes or just carried in some cases,
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if they're lucky to get through the gang territories, to get some medical treatment that was inside of one emergency room and standing with the dr. and i said, well this one is actually quite quiet. and he said, yeah, but that doesn't mean that things aren't happening. he said, listen, and there was gunfire going up at the same time. he said my concern is know that it's going to be 12, 24 hours before the people who are wounded by those bullets, you hear before they actually come in here to seek treatment. and by that point, it's often too late the man who was shot in the head. if he made it >> he did make it. >> yeah, but this is the other thing. i mean, here he is blind and an amputee. and as the dr. told me, his future is bleak here in haiti had been given given his physical disabilities. now, he's going to face challenges that are going to be at times insurmountable >> david culver. >> thank you. be careful coming up next. the director of the truth versus alex jones joins me. it's an in-depth documentary, fastening, look at how this conspiracy theorists
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>> if you or a loved one, half mesothelial, will send you a free book to answer questions you may have call now and we'll come to you 808 to 14000 >> last week, we told you about private conversations involving nfl star quarterback aaron rodgers, where he said that 2012 sandy hook shooting was not real are pamela brown said that in 2013, he had told her it was a government inside inside job and other source shared a similar story about rogers. rogers who's on the vp shortlist for robert f. kennedy jr. later said in a statement, he's never been of the opinion that the events did not take place he didn't cite actually which events he was referring to that statement, the outrageous lie that sandy hook was some sort of false flag operation was of course, propped up and frequently shares baird by conspiracy theorist alex jones. jones now owes more than $1 billion for spreading those laws, which are recounted in a fascinating new documentary, the truth versus alex jones, tells the story, the fight for justice for the parents of the sandy hook victims now quickly and savagely, these lies spread
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first at a conference for mothers who, whose kids died by gun violence and i was in an elevator with this woman. she saw my necklace and she said who's this? and i said, oh, this is my son ben. he was killed when he was six and she's when do you mean? i said, well, we live in sandy hook. he do he he died in his school >> and she said, you're lying that didn't happen. they said it. they said it didn't happen. and i was like, what she said, no. no. they said it didn't happen and i was like, no, what? it really happened. and she wasn't crazy it is it had been years since since our kids were killed. and i'm walking down the street and seattle and somebody recognizes me and then he looked up things. how do you sleep at night, you son of a and i just think the amount of content that that person had to watch in digest in hold onto to
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where he could recognize me in some random city, 3,000 miles away from new town on some random de, like, how much how much did he have to take in? >> the truth versus alex jones premier's on march 26. it's by hbo. it's on max, which is part of our parent company. i'm joined by its director dan reed dan, this film you've done so many incredible films what was it about? alex jones as sandy hook shootings and they may decide to focus on it. >> i just i became very interested in how lies spread and trolling and i i realized that this was a story that involve children in new england white picket fence territory. i just could not get my head round. who would tell lies about the murder of six-year-olds in new england and it just seemed completely allies. >> and natalie tell lies, but profit extensively off those lines. >> yeah. so there's this incredible business model which jones brilliantly developed i think was extremely successful
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out which is selling supplements, bringing people into what they call the town square and infowars using outrage, using conspiracies and scandal, people come in and then they by his wares, which are supplements and colloidal silver instead of man pills and stuff like that. >> he's actually selling colloidal silver. i believe here. >> so in the documentary alex jones claimed for years, when you talked about in the document, but algaes for years was claiming that an interview i did with the family of no posner who was killed was his fake that was done in front of a green screen. i just want to show this part of the documentary >> i'm grieving. that's all i play all or >> i wish he strengthened. thank you. a piece in the days ahead thank you. no, sorry. thank you. i'm going to need it. thank you. now, a lot >> of the tens of millions of video views on youtube concerning the sandi hook hoax
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surround cnn i saw this footage where anderson cooper turns eight supposedly, they're at sandy hook in front of the memorial and his whole four added knows blurs out. i've been working with loose granted for 17 years. i know what it looks like. it's clearly blue screen somehow that was proof that we were not actually at that locale and that image of the town hall was being artificially projected >> but the fact that this whole thing could be staged, it's just mind-blowing >> i've never understood this. i mean, i've traveled all the world to tell stories, that idea that i wouldn't drive two hours, whatever. what is two new town to report on this tragedy, it seems ridiculous and there would be a green screen all of that, of course, is just complete fantasy. it's all made up. and yet he ran with that for years. >> you ran with it for years and years and years and repeated over and over again. and that's why in the end, the sandy hook, the moms and dads are these kids who were murdered, decided enough was
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enough and they took him to court and they took him to court in connecticut, but also in texas. >> and it was extraordinary to see you document this. it was shredding you see what happened to alex jones? when he actually faced the justice system? >> yeah. for me, that was really where the rubber hit the road with this documentary is you're in court. we had extraordinary access in texas. we had two cameras and about ten microphones and they're alex jones is and he is confronted with his lies and there's nothing he can do to back them up and an amazing, very tough judge, amazing lawyers on the parent side and his lies are just exposed. and this is the this is fake news versus the court system. and just as prevailed. >> and yet, he's still out there doing his thing the verdict that the parents the sandy hook families got in connecticut was one-and-a-half billion dollars by the time punitive damages have been added in. that's an extraordinarily large amount. and yet he still broadcasting and i don't know how much of that money to pet the families will ever see. yeah. i think there's a hearing coming up in i think it's in in march about
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how alex jones to assets will be distributed later this month? >> yeah. i mean, the lawyers rule still wrangling about how to whether to liquidate all of his assets or to do some gonna deal with him. he pays he pays down some of the debt for years and years, but infowars is still going. i mean, he's managed to get away for years and years and years with what do you hope people take away from this film? i think this is sort of pivotal >> point in the telling of lies that spread like wildfire of the internet this is the only way the parents had to confront these lies and this monetization of their grief was to go to court. and i think what this tells us is the courts to justice system is probably one of the last places we can get to the truth is that enough? should we be doing something else? i have no idea what i'm just a filmmaker, but we need to confront the spreading of lives like wildfire, because otherwise, we have no way of we have no shared truth as a society. and that's very dangerous.
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>> it's extraordinary how he has profited off this horrific. dan reed. thank you so much. thanks. thanks very much. i missed the truth versus alex jones is the film premieres march 26 on hbo. it'll be available on to stream on max, both a part of our parent company coming up the story of cj rice freed from prison after more than a dozen years and ample opportunity by the justice system to reverse a parable error we'll talk about it with my colleague jake tapper, spent years reporting the story and spoke with cj writes about his new freedom >> he said with dry eye symptoms. key, kelvin inflammation might be to blame over the counter wide drops can provide temporary relief, say dry can provide lasting relief. he targets inflammation. they can cause dry eye treats the signs and symptoms of dry eye disease, don't use it. allergic disease, dre common side effects of who that your routine you should discomfort or blurred vision when applied in unusual taste sensation. why way? ask your dr. about a 90 day prescription and pay as little as $0 zai dre it's easy
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said that he moved from medical records that were never introduced the trial that rice could not be the man responsible i'll rise, had a shattered pelvis at the time. but the suspect was seen running away, which rice would not have been able to do. tapper spoke to rise about this moment it's good, to see you because the cej you've spent almost 13 years in prison, has the feel to be out amazing >> you said the air tastes sweeter. >> air tastes sweeter. the sunshine different. it's a different warmth, fulfilled a sudden as free man as can. put it in a words. >> so these ladders from my dad, did you look forward to getting them? >> i did. yeah, i did like a lot really >> yeah. because it's a constant. so you get used to constants in jail. but most of them are demeaning or not so
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personal. but a letter with ink on it from somebody on other side of the wall that's personal that makes you feel human. the canon concern as a father had for me, it was genuine. >> my dad always says that we don't have a justice system. we have a legal system, but there's no justice necessarily i can attest it. it i can attest it. it >> and jake tapper joins me now you've spoken with cj rice since. now. >> how is he? how's he dealing being outside? i mean, it's it's just gotta be such a after so long dreaming of this >> he's, you know, very, very happy to be on the right side of the wall as he puts it is still getting used to it he's also while grateful. he's also you know, as one would understand, kind of annoyed an aggrieved with assistance from that stole more than 12 years
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from him for a crime. he did not commit and for a crime that the district attorney's office today acknowledged, there was very little evidence against him, not enough to prosecute him and yet he went away in 2011 because chiefly because he had a really bad attorney. >> and this all started with >> the letter from rice to your dad, who was you said is known him since before he was accused of attempted murder when he was a kid. i just want to play some of the conversation you had with your dad, dr. tell me about the first letter cj wrote to you from prison? >> he wrote me and he was very polite dear dr. tapper, could you please do me a favor and see if you can get the medical records from jeffrey for santa hospital from 2011. >> this >> sparked years of correspondence between your two, and i would still be writing them now, except he's not locked up. right. >> and i know from being your son that these lighters became
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important to you? >> yes. i would look at his letter and then figure out what i was going to say in reply to him. he's a fantastic writer. he's very bright and i've shown you and other people his writing. and when i tell people who wrote what they were about to read or who wrote what they just finished reading. they're amazed. >> he also wrote about how tough it is being a poor black kid growing up in south philly, which spoke to you because you that's your practice. >> he grew up walking distance from the office of fifth and read and that's the neighborhood that i practiced in for most of the but 48 years that i was in south philadelphia. >> this is one of the reasons why you chose to practice medicine where you chose to practice medicine? >> yeah >> to help these kids? >> it's so nice seeing you turn to your dad. how is he doing tonight? how is he feeling about all this >> i mean, he's even more fist
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off than c2e to be honest. i mean, he's happy that gj is free. he's happy that the district attorney's office is acknowledging the injustice. but here's a kid that my dad testified in his trial in 2013 and said cj had been shot a few weeks before the crime, that he was charged with, and could barely walk much less run and yet the state or the commonwealth of pennsylvania is still put them away and he's still mad about it and i understand why he's mad. a patient of his had 12 plus years stolen from him in a system that's seems to primarily protect itself more than seek justice. and thankfully today, we had a district attorney and the district attorney's office here in philadelphia larry krasner and his team and lawyers, carl swartz and 1 million max field and others who were pursuing justice. but too often, as you
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know, anderson, because we cover these stories all the time, this seems invested more in getting arrests, getting convictions, than actually seeking truth the da's office that they did their own investigation before deciding to drop the charges against rice, did officials find anything more than that you didn't know about? >> absolutely. because they had access to all those recordings of courthouse phone calls. i mean, i courthouse jailhouse phone calls it cj made and they one of the things that cj always argued was that when he turned in his phone, when he turned himself in after he'd been named as a suspect from a confidential informant, he turned in his phone when he turned himself in, and he figured that the police would get the phone records and see he was in west philadelphia at the time the crime not south philly, where the crime was but the police never did that and he would play for his in competent attorney, please get the phone records. and she never did it >> and what they >> heard, what the assistant district attorney told me they
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heard in these phone conversations that he had with his mom and others was cj pleading with them, please get the phone records in him having cj having call after call after call with people trying to track down the phone because he was so convinced the evidence on that phone would prove he was not at the scene of the crime. and that's not what according to this assistant district attorney, i talked to. that's not normally what they hear. when they listened in on these conversations, they normally hear people trying to concoct alibis, not people pleading for somebody to track down the evidence to prove the alibi jake tapper. congratulations. and our best to your data as well >> thanks, anderson. >> a quick programming. no, jake we'll have more on this case on my weekend show. the whole story, don't ms justice delayed the story of cj rice. it's sunday at 08:00 p.m. eastern and specific up next tonight, vladimir putin wins an election in name only face and faces acts of defiance during his victory speech breaks his silence also in the death of
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consciousness. no one has ever managed to have done such a thing in history both a us and european countries are condemning the election. and he serious opposition candidates were banned in advance and descend effectively outlawed and yet a surprising show of defiance with protesters targeting dozens of polling stations across the country, setting fire to ballot boxes pouring dye into others while in berlin, germany, thousands turned up at the russian embassy following calls from the opposition to swarm polling stations including yulia navalnaya, widow of the late opposition leader alexey navalny, who died suddenly in an arctic penal colony the last mile navalnaya said, she wrote her husband's name on the election ballot and has vowed to continue his work. >> then we're going to teach nearly fubar can you add in his post election address, putin uttered navalny's name for the
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first time, claiming he would have agreed to release them in a prisoner swap boy zone, >> yet mr. kill, nobody sources. >> there are few days before mr. navalny passed away by, some colleagues asked me if there is an idea to exchange mr. navalny for some people who are imprisoned in western countries. maybe you believe me, maybe you don't. the person who spoke to me had not finished his sentence yet when i said i agree. but unfortunately, what happened happened there was only one condition that we will exchange him four and that's not to come back >> backlash, not just from the us and its allies ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy, describing the election as quote, a sham summa yemen resisted dictator these days, the russian dictator is simulating another election. everyone in the world understands that this figure, as has often happened in history has simply become addicted to power and is doing everything he can to rule forever. there was no evil. he will not commit to prolong his personal power and there was no one in the world who was saved