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>> you cnn breaking news >> thanks for joining us on cnn news central this afternoon, we begin with breaking news, a judges upheld the criminal indictment against former president donald trump in georgia. the judge, they're rejecting the argument that trump's efforts to overturn the 2020 election were protected under the first amendment cnn's zachary cohen is part of a team that broke this story zach, walk us through this decision by judge scott mcafee >> yeah boards. you'll remember that we heard we watched a hearing in fulton county, georgia just about a week ago, and trump's lawyers argued strenuously. that's entire case should be thrown out because in his argument that the political speech and that the claims about voter fraud that trump was pushing after the 2020 election are protected by the first amendment. now, the judge today roundly rejecting that argument as we've seen him do multiple other times in this case for other defendants in georgia saying, look, quote, the defense has not presented nor is the court able to find any
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authority that the speech and conduct alleged is protected political speech. it goes on to say that this argument is one that should be heard by a jury, not one that should be decided during pretrial motions. that was the argument that prosecutors in georgia made about a week ago in court before judge mcafee. so this is just an example. sample of this case in georgia, inching towards a potential trial. we know that the da there has asked for a trial to start on august 5th, but judge mcafee has not put a start date on the calendar. get that really is the big thing we're looking for. but again, the judge continuing to work through these pretrial motions and georgia continuing to work toward an address these issues that have to be addressed before a trial can take place. >> and zach, judge mcafee is not the first judge to make a ruling like this related to trump's efforts to overturn the 2020 election being related to the first amendment. judge tanya chutkan also rejected that argument from trump's attorneys in the federal case against tim four, election subversion. i'm wondering,
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have you heard anything from trump's georgia attorneys about this decision, how they plan to proceed >> junk trump's lead attorney in georgia, >> steve sadow has immediately declined to comment on this ruling. i'm sure we'll hear from him eventually because he did push and he was the main person, the main defense attorney arguing this in court when we saw this hearing take place just about a week ago and look, steve sadow has filed a several several similar motions to try to get this case thrown out before trial even happens i'm obviously trump is fighting multiple multiple legal front. as you mentioned, he tried the same argument in his federal case with judge tanya chutkan, who similarly rejected the first minim arguments. and when we saw the hearing take place in georgia prosecutors referenced chutkan's ruling on this first amendment issue two, and like i mentioned earlier, this is a similar argument that some of trump's co-defendants in georgia have also tried to make and it was also rejected by scott mcafee. so we're going to see there's other attempts on address attempts and motions on the table still and try to get this case dismissed. but for
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now, the case and the indictment against trump in georgia remains intact, >> is that cohen? thank you so much for the update. brianna >> president biden is outraged and quote, increasingly frustrated by israel's military campaign in gaza. house. and he's expressing that to prime minister benjamin netanyahu in a phone call that was scheduled after the israeli military killed seven aid workers. and series of airstrikes. but as biden's frustration mounts in the wake of the deaths of world central kitchen employees. his policy on israel has not changed according to a senior administration an official, even as the white house struggles to influence its key middle eastern ally to reduce civilian casualties in gaza to that end, the us is transferring more than 2000 us made bombs to israel. so how effective can this call actually be? let's get some insight now from cnn's mj lee, who is at the white house for us. mj. can you tell us? about this phone call >> yeah. briana, we are currently waiting on word that
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this phone call between the two leaders has concluded, but you know, we've reported on many phone calls between the president and the prime minister since the october 7 attacks. and of course, many instances and moments of frustration tension where the two litres have clashed since this war began. and you'll call that the president himself recently said that there's probably going to be a so-called come to jesus moment between the two litres. and what sources have told us in the last 48 hours is that there is a new level of anger and frustration inside the white house after the deaths of the seven aid workers. and that that incident is certainly going to be one of the many topics at the two leaders discussed on this phone call today in addition to, of course, the general idea of getting more humanitarian aid into gaza. those talks that are ongoing for attack temporary ceasefire, and the release of hostages. and also this ground incursion into rafah that israeli officials continued to say, is imminent.
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>> but what we are >> watching for briana here coming out of this phone call is whether that alleged anger and frustration from the president and everyone on down gets translated into a new position or new policies coming out of this administration because so far the white house has made it abundantly clear that this administration continues to support israel and the war that it is currently waging. >> and they have dismissed the >> idea of pulling back support for israel in any way. and certainly this idea of conditioning aid that the us census israel. here's white house spokesman john kirby on this yesterday >> while we make no bones about the fact that we have certain issues about some of the way things are being done. we also make no bones about the fact that israel is going to continue to have american support for for the fight that they're in to eliminate the threat from hamas
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>> but you know, sticking to the status quo is certainly being increasingly criticize. and at the very least, being questioned including by senator chris. he of course, is a big ally of the presidency, happens to also be a coach care of the biden campaign. >> here's what he >> said this morning on our air about the idea of conditioning aid to israel >> i think we're at the point where president biden has said, and i have said and others have said if benjamin netanyahu, prime minister were to order the idf into rafah at scale. they were to drop thousand pound bombs and send in a battalion to go after hamas and make no provision for civilians or for humanitarian aid that i would vote to condition aid to israel. i've never said that before. >> and you know, the weapons that the us has sent and continues to send to israel is going to be increasingly controversial. stolen, i think it's very much worth noting
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that the white house has said that it does not know whether us resources or us weaponry was involved in the strikes on monday that ended up killing those seven aid workers, brianna mj lee, live for us at the white house. nauta israel, cnn's jeremy diamond and jeremy, both of these leaders, this, this isn't just about strategic military considerations both of these leaders have serious political considerations. what is at stake for netanyahu with this call >> yeah well listen prime minister netanyahu is facing all kinds of pressures at the moment. of course, foremost among them is the pressure coming from the united states and other allies this is a traditional allies to the state of israel who have been growing increasingly critical of the way in which the israeli military is carrying out this military campaign in gaza. over the course of the last several months, but also here at home netanyahu is facing a range of
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domestic political pressures, including a member of the war cabinet is top political rival. just yesterday, calling for early elections as soon as september timber protests have been mounting over the course of the last several weeks as well. that's not to say that netanyahu's grip on power is being loosened in any way at the moment, there doesn't appear to be any kind of imminent collapse of his coalition government, but there's no question that in this call with president biden, one thing that netanyahu had to do was to convey the seriousness with which israel is trying to address this strike. we have seen israeli officials, both political and military officials over the course of the last several days conveying the extent to which they viewed this as a grave mistake and showing that they are going to take steps to try and prevent this from happening in the future. we know that the israeli military has been conducting an investigation and initial inquiry into how this convoy was apparently miss identified as a threat as the israeli military said, in the immediate aftermath of this, we expect those findings to actually be released at some
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point today now and beyond that, netanyahu has also talked about ways in which he plans to improve the distribution of humanitarian aid in gaza, something that humanitarian aid groups have been saying is a problem for months now, those deconfliction can and those with the israeli military to ensure that what happens earlier this week with this world central kitchen convoy does not happen. so this was certainly a moment for netanyahu to convey the seriousness of this matter. the fact that he went wants to rectify going forward and to try and convince biden as well that this is not a kind of practice of the israeli military to go after these humanitarian aid convoys. but there's no question that there are still numerous questions that remain about exactly how this could have happened. and we will be waiting for the findings of that initial investigation to see whether or not those questions are answered in any kind of substantive way >> and jeremy, just real quickly, can you also talk about what we're learning about the controversial role of
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ai in the idf's targeting, or maybe more specifically, how reliant they have been on it without human checks and balances >> yeah, really remarkable report by an israeli magazine plus 972, which a revealed. this artificial intelligence program, known as lavender, which use identifies targets in the gaza strip effectively compiling a kill list of potential targets suspected militants for the israeli military two then drop bombs, dropped missiles in the gaza strip. and this report revealed that the military relied on this systematically using this system to identify targets and then rapidly authorizing strikes on those targets including on some of these suspected militants, low-level militants in some cases at nighttime while they were at home in their families, resulting in significant civilian casualties. as we have watched over the course of the last several months of this war, the israeli military, for
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its part said that these systems are merely tools for analysts to use. that it is used in conjunction with human personnel who verify the information that this ai system is giving. but one source told plus 972 that military personnel effectively served as a rubber stamp and that this system actually had a 10% error rate. so very significant and very troubling information revealed by this magazine. >> yeah, indeed, jeremy diamond. thank you so much for that. horus. >> let's expand the conversation now with former state department middle east negotiator, aaron david miller aaron, thank you so much for being with us. are you expecting anything on the ground in gaza to change from today's call between president biden and prime minister netanyahu i mean, one call is not going to make or break. this relationship between the two countries >> and i think bore the overall point months into this war, almost six months and it's worse at the administration has
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been pursuing what i call a passive aggressive policy toward, toward the really tremendously finger tremendous frustration. tremendous to change israeli practices on the ground and minimize the exponential rise of palestinian deaths and humanitarian catastrophe. but unwilling, it seems to me, still to impose a single cost are consequents that you and i would consider significant on israel. and i think the reasons are are clear, president alone among is predecessors has this unique emotional bond with the people of israel securities are all the idea of israel obviously not so much with the most extreme right-wing government history of the state and second, if, if biden wants to change the pixels you in gaza de-escalate free hostages, surge humanitarian during assistance, avoid a disaster in rafah, i think he really has no choice. >> and i >> think this is the way their reasoning it out. >> but to cooperate not just with netanyahu, but to read the mood of the israeli public. and also benny gantz boris who sits
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in that war cabinet endorsing the rafah operation. so it can't be nittany now against biden it would be it ended up being biden against most of most of the israeli public. and i don't think given instruction wants to put itself in that position that's a fair point. i would say it's almost poetic in a sense because for biden, it could have electoral consequences. he wants this conflict to end sooner rather than later, because obviously it could cost him in november critics would say that netanyahu wants the conflict of go on because he's trying to avoid elections. it doesn't seem to you like their motivations are contradictory absolutely. >> two >> clocks. >> president wants his thing over or at least de-escalate the point where palestinian lives are protected and humanitarian systems can be surged into gaza rather than dribbled him yeah, i think i'm
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on trial for bribery, fraud, and breach of trust and jerusalem district court, three judges for three years. now, the longer the work continues, the greater the chances i'm sure mr. nittany, i'll believes that something good will happen the rescue hostages, they'll kill the senior leadership and to some degree, you'll be able to get credit to offset the debacle of october 7, i do want to ask about potential avenues for the us to exert influence. is there anything the white house can do outside of putting restrictions on arms sales are limiting arms sales that would get an in yahoo to adjust his posture hard to say three levers. >> registration could have pulled all of >> them or none of them since october 7, one, as you pointed out, condition restrict or n munitions deliveries to israel, not going to do that seems to me number to introduce their own un security council resolution or abstain or vote for someone else. that is
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highly critical of israel. it seems to me not gonna do that. then the third issue is forget the israeli hamas negotiations and join the international community in calling for an immediate cessation i've hostilities. and we'll deal with us use later. and frankly israel is not at war with switzerland. i think the president understands that israel's fighting a vicious terror organization with which holds and abuses hostages. i don't think the president is going to do that. >> so i think biden's in a >> box, boris, that's the real problem here. he's an inventor mr. been trapped, and it's really difficult for me to see how we fundamentally changes course >> you did mention in a recent interview that you believe that biden doesn't share the same depth of feeling, an empathy for palestinians that he does for israelis. i think the white house would refute that help us understand your perspective >> i mean, this is a good kind, man joe biden and if you watch
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to speech on october 10th, it was quite clear three days after the hamas terrorist or that he he's into some degree fields, the emotion and the pain of israelis and the los, you referred to the quote, black hole of loss, unquoted. >> and he may even >> conflated with each with a personal tragedies is only genuine emotional man. the way it's conveyed, however, i think is different and i've gotten a lot of pushback for that comment, but i think it's it's true, it's not that joe biden doesn't care about the deaths of palestinian innocence and
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massacre cnn's jean casarez has the details for us. gene, what are you learning >> well, what we're learning is the prosecution they have filed their sentencing memo is the defense has not yet, but they are really asking for the maximum they want ten to 15 years, the maximum is 15 years. >> and >> both of them have been behind bars for about two years and four months at this point and they get out about 23 hours a day. i mean, they're inside their cell for 23 hours a day. can get out for an hour a day. and so both of them obviously wants other than the maximum but what the prosecution is really basing this on is just as you said, that there is no remorse that they are just with jennifer, they're talking about when she testified and that she said i wouldn't change anything. well, there are statements included in these memos from the defendants themselves, so i want you to hear in their own words what they are saying at this point. james crumbley is saying,
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quote, in wrongly accused. and now wrongly convicted of involuntary manslaughter my actions were that of any other parent. ethan was a great kid. he never got in trouble at school, had decent grades, and very rarely got in trouble at home. and when he did get in minor trouble, it was just about but grades or assignments he needed to complete. ethan always appear to be a very stable individual. never did he voice anything to me that anything was bothering him. now, jennifer crumbley said, in part, there are so many things that i would change if i could go back in time. i knew my son to be quiet, good kid who loved his pets. i never imagined he would hurt other people in the way that he did. i have been in jail for over 20 months and have been locked down 23 hours per day. i am hopeful the court will sentenced me in a way that allows me to be released from jail for the balance of my sentence. and what goes on to say in that memo is that
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according to jennifer crumbley, her attorney is allowing her to spend this time if she would be out, but obviously on watch and comb confinement in a guest house, she has on her property and that's included in the memo, one one thing that really ways against james is that there were threats that james made on the phone directly to karen mcdonald, the elected county prosecutor that i'm gonna get you. and when i get out and just threats to her person and that could really impact him, i think in sentencing because obviously danger to the community is something that the court will look at. but one more thing in regard to jennifer crumbley >> she >> always the jury convicted her based on she was the last one to have the gun. we here in these memos and it's from jail aims and a statement that the jail psychiatrist talked to ethan and it came out in the
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miller hearing and ethan said, i snuck into my parents room first off to try to find where the gun was and where the bullets were. and then i snuck in again when i actually got the gun before i was going to commit that shooting and the bullets we've always wondered how he got the gun and that psychiatrists did testify in the miller hearing and i don't remember her saying that, but she did say that he took responsibility. that was all him it's very interesting. >> well, we will stay tuned to see what happens here. jean casarez. thank you for the latest horus. >> a gloomy prognostication. we got today. first of its kind forecast has just been issued for this year's atlantic hurricane season. it's predicting more hurricanes than ever before in a preseason forecast scientists at colorado state university see there could be as many as 11 hurricanes when the season starts in june, the previous high for the outlook was nine cnn meteorologist chad myers is here with the details. chadha,
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i think a lot of people are wondering is this related to climate change because the water is warmer? well, sure, absolutely. also because of el nino last year cause 2023 to be the hottest year on record. so the atlantic ocean is the hottest. it's ever been for this time of year. and i thought of a will try to figure out a way to explain this, but if you're running a race and they let one guide start 15 minutes earlier than the than the rest of the team won't that guy make more laps well, if we start hurricane season earlier because this map right here, it looks like may 3 to five degrees already above. so that's three to five weeks ahead of schedule. so maybe he june 1st isn't their official start of hurricane season anymore. we're going to have to make this season longer. so more active than normal, the change jilan anemia, and that's important. i'll tell you why. and also obviously the warm air temperatures they're here. so the colorado state forecasts, this has been coming out for decades 23 named
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storms, 11 hurricanes, five major this is the normal 14, seven to this was last year, 13, >> we >> actually got two so a good forecast for the hurricanes, the name storms, obviously a little bit lower, but look how much higher than normal we are because of all of those things coming together. and not only that, but people ask, well, is it one good hit land? well, we don't know, but because we have more fish in the water, more hurricanes out there, there's no was 62% instead of a 42 present 34 to 21 along the east coast. and even for the gulf of mexico obviously, we're already one or two degrees warmer here in the gulf. so there's an added risk of a major hurricane here compared to normal. now, el nino warmed up the waters, warmed up water in the pacific, warmed up the land. obviously the hottest year ever water temperature, air temperature, and the like. but the jet stream is about to shift to the north, the wind shear is about to decrease. and
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when that happens, we get more storms. i talk about this that a hurricane is like my cat. >> all >> it says is don't touch me the cat doesn't want to be touched. hurricanes don't want shear when there's less shear, there are going to be more hurricanes, bores >> chat. it seems like you should maybe give some more treats to your cat. maybe be friendly against some cabinet for some. chad myers live folk, the weather center. that's someone's job still to come. we have some exclusive new details on the chaotic final days for americans in afghanistan, top state department officials revealing how they were given little time to prepare how some withdrawal plans were created from scratch. we're back and just moments >> if you work in spaceflight, this is the worst possible thing i can ever help my dad died doing what he loved >> shuttle columbia, the final
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these documents, you've been sifting through them. what have you found? >> hundreds of pages. and what's new about this briana is that these state department officials are on the record in their own words describing how chaotic was behind the scenes. we were reporting on it in real time. we were seeing the images of these afghans trying to get into the kabul airport. are these americans tried to get into the kabul airport as the biden administration it was carrying out that withdrawal from afghanistan. and what these state department officials say is that they were rushed into the scene, into the heart of this chaos with one very little time to prepare and to very little clear plan that they were following. so we know that embassies are supposed let's to have non combatant evacuation plans. that's a complicated term for essentially a plan for them to get out if they need to, and what they said is that the situations on the round required them to essentially make up a plan as they were going along on the fly because of how dynamic, how violent, how challenging the situation they're facing once it really confirms what appearances were,
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which was it looks like they are just flying by the seat of their pants and improvising here. i wonder though, and perhaps we should know the answer to this kernel. leighton, should there have been an emergency? urgency evacuation plan for all those noncombatants? >> absolutely. absolutely. rionda and i remember talking to boris in july of 2021 and we were looking at how everybody was it's moving, how the taller ban was taking province by province even then. so when that starts happening, they needed to think about what was what had happened in the past in places like vietnam when the province by province say at that point to the north vietnamese were moving into vietnam. same thing was happening in afghanistan, different contexts, different place, but the same type of events we're going. and those dominoes were beginning to fall each those provinces. and that's the kind of thing that at the very latest by july, they should have put something together the problem is they should have really done this years in advance >> why are these inner let me just coming to light now, kylie. >> well, this is an investigation that's led by the top republican on the house
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foreign affairs committee, mike mccall so the democrats partook in some of these invested in some of these interviews as well. but it's very clear that there's a political motive for these transcripts to becoming out now and for the committee to be working on a report that compiles all the hot moments from these transcripts into one that'll come later this year. that's according to the committee and biden administration officials of course, still defend the fact that they withdrew from afghanistan, saying that it gave them more time to focus on other foreign policy issues like the middle east and ukraine. but they are recognizing the fact that republicans want to bring this up ahead of the election because it is one of the darkest mark on president biden's foreign policy tenure >> no doubt about it. >> it is political the timing. there are definitely legitimate questions that need to be answered about this in part of that has to do cedric with we don't want to repeat history, right? so what is the takeaway for? the state department, but also for the military? the terry who we have heard in their testimony on the hill,
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top leaders, that they thought the state department should have gotten their act. yeah, they're much sooner. >> yeah, absolutely. and in this case, general millie and the former commander of centcom, they were all talking about. what should have been done, but everybody needs to be proactive in situations like this. and i think everybody got into this mode there was a state department or the defense department where they said, i afghanistan can't fall. the government that we're supporting cat fall that was patently false years ago you should have taken into account the corruption of the afghan government. we should have taken into account the way in which the afghans were not fighting for themselves. it's completely different than let's say you crane where the people are fighting for themselves. it's a completely different thing and you have to draw the right lessons from history. and in this case, they fail to act, they feel to be proactive. they feel to see what it could happen in terms of possibilities, and they failed to worst-case do a worst-case scenario. and that's what you need to do in a case like this, because when a worst-case scenario happened it's going to be bad.
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breon, i would suggest that there was a lot of pressure on israeli officials to make public their findings and quick remember that it was on the day itself that we heard from the chief of the general self, the idf, about the conclusions of that preliminary report where he said that it had been a question or an issue with miss identification promising that the results of the full investigation would come out very quickly. and remember that every since israeli officials have been under a great deal of pressure, not just from president biden himself speaking directly to benjamin netanyahu tonight, but from i'm so sorry to interrupt you. we need to go to seconds materia of state blinken, he is in brussels. let's listen in and we'll come back to that. >> and i made clear then the commitment of the united states to israel's security and to ensuring that october 7 could never happen again >> i also underscored israel's moral strategic and legal requirements to protect
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civilians and provide humanitarian >> assistance to those who needed it. now of course what happened after october 7 ended immediately if hamas had stopped hiding behind civilians, release the hostages and put down its weapons but israel is not hamas. israel is a democracy hamas, a terrorist organization and democracy is placed the highest value on human life. every human life as has been said whoever saves a life saves the entire world >> that's our strength >> is what distinguishes us from terrorists. >> like hamas if we lose that reverence for human life we risk becoming indistinguishable
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from those we confront here's the current reality. >> in gaza >> despite >> important steps that israel is taken to allow assistance into gaza the results on the ground are woefully insufficient and unacceptable 100% of the population in gaza knows acute levels of food insecurity 100% of the population is in need of humanitarian assistance >> and >> those working heroically to provide that assistance. >> are doing so in great peril to their own lives >> this week's horrific attack >> on the world central kitchen was not the first such incident it must be the last president biden spoke a short while ago with prime minister netanyahu the leaders discussed the situation in gaza the president
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emphasized that the strikes on humanitarian workers and the overall humanitarian situation are unacceptable. he made clear the need for israel to announce a series of specific concrete and measurable steps to address civilian harm humanitarian suffering and the safety of aid workers he made clear that us policy with respect to gaza will be determined by our assessment of israel's immediate action on these steps. he underscored as well, an immediate ceasefire is essential to stabilize and improve the humanitarian situation and protect innocent civilians. and he urged prime minister, then you to empower as it goes, haters, to conclude a deal without delay, to bring the hostages home the two leaders also discussed public iranian threats against israel and the israeli people president biden reaffirmed the united states strong support for israel in the face of these threats. >> and are
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>> commitment to israel's security >> right now >> there is no higher priority in gaza. and protecting civilians surging humanitarian assistance. and ensuring the security of those who provided israel must meet this moment >> now here >> in brussels, we marked 75 years two, the de since the founding of the nato alliance >> we >> had our first ministerial meeting with sweden at the table a full ally there now 32 members of the nato alliance and that alliance has continued to adapt to meet challenges to meet threats as they've emerged so while we focused on celebrating the fact that we've hit the 75 year mark. >> we're >> intensely focused on the future we've been lost. we discussed >> state antony blinken at nato headquarters on the 75th
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anniversary of the founding of the organization. he's lived in brussels, belgium. some significant remarks when it comes to that the conflict in gaza, the secretary of state saying that he has communicated to israeli officials not only the us is commitment to israel and its war against hamas, but also the moral obligation that israel has to protect civilians and aid workers in the gaza strip he specifically said, and i quote, if we lose reverence for human life, we become indistinguishable from them, from hamas terrorists he described the efforts so far by israel since october 7 to protect civilians and humanitarian aid workers as woefully inadequate. and he laid out what we just got a readout from the call that president biden had with the prime minister that the united states would consider its approach to israel based on concrete steps to change the way that israel is handled. civilians. and aid workers. that's what they're expecting data from israel, which is
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clear. he said that they need to have concrete, measurable steps. to address harm to civilians civilian suffering, and also to aid workers. and he said that us aid to gaza may be determined by those steps. that's essentially what he said. and this is really significant because it comes on the heel of a very close biden allies, senator talking this morning about being open to putting conditions on aid to israel, which is really the first time that we have heard the administration goes so far. and this is even as we're hearing from a senior administration official that the policy hasn't changed the president is frustrated that policy hasn't changed. this is signaling a potential policy change. so nonetheless, this is, this is big, absolutely. it notably, the timing the apparent accidental strike coming almost a day after the us announced this enormous deal, 18 billion to sell f 15 fighter jets to israel. the question now being, is this
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rhetoric that actually moves the needle or do there have to be? conditions on arms in order to get prime minister netanyahu and some of the other israeli officials to carry out significant change in the way that they've been conducting the war of we have with us, retired colonel cedric leighton to give us some perspective krone leighton, from what you heard from the secretary of state, there it is a noticeable shift saying that the policy toward israel will change determined on the way that israel conducts its operations in gaza. >> absolutely. in essence, what we're talking about, boris here is conditioning the aid on israeli conduct going forward i and i guess in this case, you can kind of say past is prologue because the past conduct of israeli operations has not met us standards. and at this point in time it appears as if it appears as if the department of defense and the administration are looking at changing the policy potentially where they actually say, look, you cannot use these
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weapons against civilian targets. you cannot use these weapons against aid workers and that's the kind of thing that i think might be happening here whether or not it does, of course, is going to be borne out in the next few days probably. but you mentioned the f 15 sale to israel. that's something that's going to take place over the next four or five years in order to actually get those weapons to the israelis. but the other part of this is they have already delivered in the process of delivering more 2000 pound bombs to israel. that's a much more immediate thing. it's going to be interesting to see whether or not that delivery is stopped before they actually are put into israeli airplanes. four potential use and that's, that's going to be a significant thing there are two things that the israelis, that the us is worried read about with israel. one of them is the immediate conduct in gaza. the second thing is using israel as a buffer against iran. and that is going to be the balancing act. but the administration has to deal with at this point in
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the administration has to deal with netanyahu, who obviously has his own considerations and how he might be responding to this as well. let's go back to melissa bell, who is in jerusalem. melissa, we'd interrupted your live shot there to go to secretary blinken, but i wonder what you think about this this the secretary of state saying that israel needs to have these concrete, measurable steps to address civilian suffering harm. and also to aid workers as well. how that might be received. their by the prime minister >> well, bear in mind that benjamin netanyahu is under a great deal of pressure i'm sure it. whoa, we've seen these protests that we've been talking about briana these last few nights. are in jerusalem. we've also heard benny gantz, one of his potential opponents in any election that might be held. and a clear favorite here in israel, potentially to be the next prime i'm going to announced that he was in favor of early parliamentary elections in september. the political pressure has been mounting on benjamin netanyahu.
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and i think what we just heard, there was a culmination of a growing sense that the pressure from outside even from that into fatigable ally, the united states was growing untenable, louder and louder it had been building for some time. remember the speech we'd had from chuck schumer a couple of weeks ago. remember the growing rift, the l, the fact that the united states allowed that's fire resolution to go in in the united nations the ruffled feathers and benjamin netanyahu's campus result of that. and clearer and clearer language, i think by the time you have at that virtual meeting between american and israeli officials on monday to talk about raffa >> we'd >> heard then that the american officials, american officials had been very forthright with their israeli counterparts about the need to protect civilians. a much sharper tone. it seemed to been used. >> and then the attack against world central kitchen, i think with hindsight, this will appear the clear turning points beyond which the american allies simply couldn't stand instead, as closely as blindly
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as perhaps it had so far. and i think secretary blinken's words just now that israel is not hamas and cannot behave with conducting indiscriminate killing think targeting civilians and aid workers was very striking. and i think something we might not have imagined hearing before the repercussions here are likely to be the embolus holding of those forces who are clearly cooling for benjamin netanyahu to think about calling it a day. and they come at a very interesting time for the prime minister here, politically, military early of course, he continues to say that any threat to his power would be a threat both to the military campaign in gaza and to the ongoing hostage conversation >> briana, those calls for early elections coming from members of his war cabinet we should go to the white house now with cnn's kayla tausche kayla, we heard from the secretary of state, antony blinken. we are assumed to hear from officials. there at the white house in the press room
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after we got this readout of the call between biden and netanyahu what are you hearing from sources at the white house about the call >> well, we're just getting the readout boris from the call in which president biden is said to have said it was it's unacceptable. the strikes on humanitarian workers and the overall humanitarian situation, making clear that israel needs to take measurable steps to address civilians billion harm. but perhaps most notably from the statement is that the president underscored that an immediate ceasefire is essential to stabilize and improve the humanitarian situation. and pretty tech innocent civilians. and so that is certainly a very fine point that the white house is putting on the president's views of what should happen next and what prime minister netanyahu should do. now i were expecting to hear in just a few moments from green jump here, the white house press secretary, as well as john kirby, the nsc spokesman with more details about what transpired on this call, which we had expected to see president biden express
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anger, frustration, and demand accountability from the israelis >> all right? >> kayla, thank you so much this is a warning, obviously that he made clear that us policy with respect to gaza will be determined by america's assessment of israel's immediate action on the these steps, it's a warning. but what does it mean? how serious is it will israel take it seriously? we're going to discuss this further a whole lot happening we'll be right back spatial colombia, the final flight premieres sunday at nine on cnn life is better with the credit god's on your side rewards once available to the view, are
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