appreciate it us all the republicans who've reached out to me privately and on social media to support me this is an this isn't about me. this is about democracy >> and >> there were about 3,000, 4,000 republicans. they're on saturday doing work that represents the 900,000 registered republicans in the state and the unaffiliated voters who lean to the republican party. and those people deserve to know what the party is doing on their behalf. and that's what i was there for to report on that >> and it sounds like as tier point it's not just democrats and the media coming to your defense. it's other republicans who see this as really beyond the pale. sandra fish, thanks for joining us tonight. we appreciate you doing that. >> thanks for having me, abby >> thank you so much for

watching news night. laura coates live starts right now >> there is so much news that a prompt legal world tonight, it brightens two clips >> every other story regular there. >> i'll tell you what we've learned about the question that'll decide who gets to sit in the jury box for trump's hush money trial. plus donald trump, those some of his firm feminine supporters under the blast. why, hey, save around abortion could cost him republican votes come november i women's basketball celebrating record viewership for last night ncw, a championship game. and while south carolina salvage some of the true dynasty now there's a warranty for caitlin clark and her future tonight. i'm laura coates live all right, now, raise your >> hand if you want jury duty >> okay. well, keep mop if you

want to be on the jury for the first criminal trial against a former president i see some hands well, today might be your lucky day because i've got the questions that potential jurors are going to have to answer two possibly be selected for jury duty in that hush money trial. now, the trial is actually set for one week from tonight on april 15th for jury selection of mind, you trump is trying again to get that trial date pushed claiming that he would not get an impartial jury well, no dice to see an appeals court judge said, no, it's called on april 15 this the trial, just to keep everything straight for you. >> the >> one in new york where the former president is accused of falsifying business records to cover up an alleged affair with adult film star stormy daniels and make no mistake about it. >> who is >> ultimately on that jury is arguably the most important part of the trial. you're going to hear some of those questions in just a moment and i want you to ask yourself while you're hearing them, what i make it onto the jury or would i not do

you even want to be on this jury? and we've got some more legal news out tonight on the former president special counsel jack smith, urging the supreme court it's rho hat his claims of sweeping immunity, claims that they say have no grounding in the constitution or in our understanding that no one, not even a president, is above the law, he wrote the severity range and democracy damaging nature of the alleged crimes are unique in american history. but doesn't, it hasn't stopped trump from demanding immunity over and over and over >> a president of the united states has to have immunity if you don't have immunity, you can be black. >> but do you have to have a >> guaranteed immunity for president? a president has to immunity. a president, you have to have immunity in all events. well, i want to bring in tiffany rights, the former law clerk for supreme court justice sonia sotomayor. also here is

tim parlatore, a former trump attorney. now look, i want to get into what's happening to the supreme court. but i have been champing at the bit to get these wide de are questions a fancy way of saying the questions i want to ask you to see that i want to choose you to be on the jury or strike you from my jury. right. so i want to go through some of these with you guys. okay. >> so first of all, >> on the impartiality that we know there's a hearing or there's an appeals court on this issue, but it gives to the question tim, i'll start with you here is one of the questions. do you currently follow donald trump on any social media site or have you done so in the past? another one. >> have you ever worked >> or volunteered for any anti-trump group or organization or do you have any strong opinions or firmly held beliefs? about former president donald trump or the fact that he is a current candidate for the presidency, that would interfere with your ability to be a fair and impartial jury. okay. these are obviously the trump line of questions. break down for me as a defense attorney. what answer you're looking for in these answers?

>> i think the answer you're looking for somebody who can be fair and i think that they would love to find people who say, yes, i've followed him. yes, i supported him, but i can still hear this case fairly i think what the flip side of that though? >> no, i don't support them. no, i don't follow him and i can still be fair. would that be someone you would also choose >> that is it's somebody you're not gonna be able to challenge for cause and so ultimately, you're going to go through these jury questionnaires to figure out who gets challenge for cause. and then at the end of it, with the peremptory challenges, all you're doing is taken off the worst jurors on each side. so the you end up with what's in the middle. >> let's break that down for a second. tibia and idea, the four cars versus peremptory. it's important people to know how you do this, right? you get these jurors. we fill the courtroom, essentially, you're asked questions and paying off the judge acid or not, and then you have a chance to say you should not be on this jury because you've come in here into something like your honor, i will never an any way a quick this person i don't care what you tell me. well, that's four cause. right

>> but the peremptory strike is interesting. tell us why rep. three strike is interesting because it can be for any reason or no reason at all there are constitutional parameters, so you can't strike someone for example, because of race, you can't strike because of gender. but there are all sorts of other things that are fair game, right? you can ask someone, as in this case, what sort of media do you consume and what does it tell me about you? do i like the way you looked at me when i asked you that question, right? all of these are fair game for peremptory challenges, as long as you stay within constitutional parameters, a really important point and that's where the subjectivity comes into play, right? you could literally strike someone because you're like they remind me of my ex. >> i don't >> like you or it could be the way you approach there looked in your didn't make eye contact makes me wonder if you actually trust the government or the defense and said, but so important about the race, the gender, et cetera. religion as well. what about >> politics though? that's trying to get at, that hasn't been covered specifically as a peremptory reason. >> it's it's something you normally don't get into. obviously you don't normally have somebody like this.

>> you don't normally have former president, you mean hussein trial. got it >> i think it is important to try and figure out everybody's biases yeah. but ultimately get to remember, i mean, manhattan news is so overwhelmingly democrat that you're going to end up with plenty of people on that jury that didn't vote for him and really, when it comes to the peremptory challenges, you want to just take out the things to people that you think are going to be the most negative towards you jury selection is such a misnomer you're not really selecting who you want on the jury. you're selecting who you don't want them missouri jury exclusion, right? >> menu. >> you end up with what you have left, which hopefully if the system works right, is the people were in the middle >> another question that intrigued me as well. here's another one have you ever considered herself a supporter of or belong to any of the following? the q and on movement, proud boys, oath keepers, three percenters, bouba lu boys, and teba the list actually goes on.

remember, of course to the liters of the oath keepers were sentenced two years in jail for their roles on january 6, if you answer yes, to belong to any of these groups though, what would that tell you as the prosecution or defence? >> i think what they're getting at is do you have some sort of sympathy for groups with which president trump, former president trump has been aligned. and i thought this was an astounding part of the questionnaire to me because it made me wonder it's a quote, eric killed monger. is this your king? is this. are you really republicans nominating someone where we have to ask an official court record. are you associated with the blue glow boys? are you associated with the proud boys? and what does that say about where we are as a country, but back to juries, i think they're trying to judge whether or not you will have sympathies with these groups and whether or not that will align with president trump sum i look at those questions, didn't say, okay, i get that. if that were a january 6 case, but this is the hush money case involving mri daniel's were conduct that occurred julie before the election back in 2016, his surprise you that this question is included here

or based on how this is all, but they've been put together. it would make sense. >> no it totally makes sense to me because especially when you have groups on both sides, proud boys than antifungals these are groups that as a whole are willing to ignore the constitution to pursue whatever their individual political goal is and so i think it's a great question because it, i think just about everybody who says yes to that question is going to be challenged for pause. because when the judge says you have to follow the constitution, you have to presume that defendant is innocent. you have to hold them to their burden of proof these are people that have demonstrated that they're okay with ignoring that. so i do think it is a good question here, thinking of those who are alleged to ignore the laws from the supreme court percent. now there's a bring court justices that way, man, but i can see where you would make that leap for a second. am i being sarcastic or sincere? i don't know, but we were talking about the immunity issue here. the special counsel is urging the supreme court, as you well know not to say that president

varane, president trump has immunity from all things, right? we remember that now, infamous hearing, the discussion about whether or not you could order your political opponent to be assassinated by seal team six, i know you've always taken issue with that analogy because you have had a lot of work with the tilt, isn't beyond. but the arguments are is making. this is really interesting because on april 20, tiffany, they're going to get into this conversation. what did you take from the pleadings so far that show you who has a stronger argument i think the argument that president trump has absolute immunity is one, that there is no way he gets to five votes on the supreme court, four. so i thought that was a strong argument by jack smith. i think where we run into trouble is i think what the court will say is there are some zone of activity for which the president does have immunity if you're acting within your constitutionally prescribed role. and i think that's going to be difficult. and what i saw on the pleadings is jack smith is worried not about losing on the absolute immunity question, but the possibility that they'll say there is some zone where he does have immunity and we have

to kick it back to the trial court in order to answer factual questions about whether or not he was operating in that zone. jack smith was fighting hard against the remand in those papers. >> if it's remanded, what happens next? >> well, if they and i agree with that completely, i think that they are going to come up with some kind of qualified immunity and kick it back down for an evidentiary hearing where judge chutkan is going to have to then have a hearing here testimony, and figure out which portions of this indictment may fall within or outside of the scope of whatever contours that the supreme court is laid out. and i think the thing that jack smith is most worried about, there is another evidentiary hearing after it appeal to the supreme court is going to push this trial way out past the election. >> i mean, that's a real fear though. you have their adventure hearing. and by the way, if the supreme court does that they could on the one hand, say, no, he does not have absolute immunity, but then still have them do this fact-finding mission below, that would push this calendar out very, very far. and the

concern is, well, if he were to win the election, this case could go away. >> absolutely. and i think that we've seen when the supreme court wants to act quickly, it does. they didn't do so here. and the question is, why? then the fact that jack smith is fighting so hard against the remal shows that he's really worried about that. but i think the most important thing is not getting the result of the trial, but what it takes away from the american people as the opportunity to hear the evidence no trial. right. and that's what we will miss before the election. and i think once the election happens, if donald trump is elected, we may never hear that evidence. also, if >> you are >> trump's campaign, mean this would push it back further, knowing that ramp to the actual election date, you're still talking about the different evidentiary points. and if they start of the trial were to start during that, you still have gotten that burden of having things out there may not have your own case presented while i've got really bad news for both of you, you won't get part a part of this jury. no one shooting no one's using either of you for this jury. that's a good thing or a bad thing. i'm not getting chosen

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revealing today who he thinks should have the final word on abortion my view is now that we have abortion where everybody wanted it from a legal standpoint. the states will determine by vote or legislation, or perhaps both. >> and >> whatever they decide must be the law of the land at the end of the day, this is all about the will of the people well, that's a different take and the one he gave to a voter earlier this year during a town hall >> you've >> also blamed pro-life first for some of the gop losses around the country and you've called heartbeat laws like iowa's terrible. and so it just like some clarity on this because it's such an important question to me. i'd like for you to reassure me that you can protect all life, every person's right to life without compromise, you wouldn't be asking that question, even talking about the issue because for 54 years they were trying to get roe v. wade terminated. and i did. and i'm proud to

have done it during an beca hany, she's that anti-abortion voter who pressed trump on abortion. and she joins me now, rebecca, thank you so much for joining me this evening. i have to wonder what is your reaction to trump's saying that states should chart their own path essentially on abortion thanks for having me. and as i think you're hearing from a lot of the pro-life camp were extremely disappointed with donald trump taking the language of the left on this and leading on what he would not even he used the term abortion rights and that's a far cry from someone who claims that you'd be the most pro-life president of hr long time had been hailed for his pro-life credentials by conservatives like me who gave him a lot of credit for many of those pro-life victories that the talking points that he used the way that he defended life

when he was in office, we really good appreciate. and now to come out and essentially surrender on this issue, is there's many words for it, but extremely disappointed as a mom, you know, the worst thing that you can be is just disappointed and that's where i am right now. what donald trump, on life i use that same tactic with my own children when i'm disappointed as far worse than we actually yelling about anything. but you know how former vice president mike pence characterized it. he characterized it as a slap in the face. so as the words that he used do you see it as that as well, something that it seems to be an intentional act or something more well, it's really seems to be an unforced error. i think if we look on the political strategy side, i'm not sure who's advising him. this doesn't exactly come out of the blue >> i was able to >> talk with donald trump about life on similar town hall and >> another network adds it was clear to me that he was a

little bit wishy-washy on the line who was willing to draw, but he was still saying he would vote for or rather he would defend life. and i think this is a true step backward >> and >> i'm sure the strategy is to moderate on what he considers to be in more divisive issue, but it's not as though trump, donald trump has ever had an issue taking a bold and divisive stand when he believed that it was either right to do are right politically. and so i do characterize this as a betrayal. i don't think that someone who has convicted on this issue and is willing i'm going to fight for the dignity of all life. can really see it. otherwise people can make their own decisions on this but someone who has advocated for this specifically this issue of justice for the pre born, but for all life, for, for humanity and human dignity. this is really just inexcusable

>> so what is the consequence then if the idea you call it a betrayal inexcusable. does that mean that it's enough to motivate you to still go to the ballot? or is it something that would make you vote for somebody else or an alternative? >> that's always gonna be the question, isn't it? and i've seen statements from people wondering now, okay. what then? >> i know this was conversation likes to go, i think that we need to reassert the standard and if the standard is that every single life is worth protecting, then to be frank donald trump has not performed according to what he knows. we're both moms here. if your kid knows to do something right and doesn't do it well, then you have higher expectations of them. will just say there's consequences. there have to be consequences for knowingly abandoning what you claimed at one time to be. so incredibly important, not about pro, this is a very important issue and important enough for you to have your asked the question of

a presidential candidate of a former president do you think that is enough for people to opt against donald trump as a result of this answer blamed. >> so >> if pro lifers, if this is our issue, there should be consequences. as i said perhaps the should cost donald trump, the pro-life vote now, i know that we don't live in pollyanna lollipop lands at people are going to start choosing between the choices that they have on the ballot. >> but >> the, if this is your number one issue, what i do say is that those consequences for donald trump, the backlash should be loud. it should be clarion it should be clarifying for him that he cannot betray these chief abiding american principles and still expect to be considered a conservative standard bearer >> rebecca hany, really fascinating to hear your take. thank you so much for joining thank you for inviting me >> on a regular >> republican strategist and former deputy chief of staff for hud under donald trump's

for michael singleton, also here, senior political correspondent for the wall street journal and all molly ball, i'm curious what your take is to the reaction to what she said, the notion of there being electoral consequences for donald trump based on this, does that surprise you? it >> doesn't surprise me that social conservatives are angry about the stance that trump has taken. but he's clearly making a calculation that they're not going to have anywhere else to go. and the by the time november comes around, as she was saying in that segment, they're going to realize there are only two candidates in this election. some states there may be other candidates on the ballot, but realistically, two major candidates, they're not gonna vote for joe biden if what they care about is is the, the lives of what she called the pre born and so there could stay home, but i'd be surprised you know, the evangelical vote in particular the social conservative boat has been the strongest cohort of voters behind donald trump. they have been, they have turned out at historic rates. they have supported trump at historic rates.

>> i >> think he's making a calculation that at the end of the day they may grumble, but they're going to come home to do you agree with that? >> i agree with that. 150% of mean the question is, you stay home and then president biden wins the election and democrats take control of the house and you barely maintain control of the senate are regained control of the senate because you're angry. i mean, look, these folks have argued for 54, 50 plus years they wanted this return to the states. the supreme court did that. now, people are getting the opportunity to vote on this issue and you're saying democrats and even a sizable percent of republicans saying, look, we think people should have the right to make this decision for themselves, families, and their doctors, not the government. that's small government. i'm a conservative, we believe is martin government. donald trump has absolutely right on this issue to say, let states decide, put it on the ballot. and if people want it, then that's their right. >> but the fear, of course i putting on the ballot and putting it in different states is that they've not been successful when asked to turn to the ballots in recent times and you see an alabama, it's flipping special election. you see on different i think it was

kansas as well, just to name one, i think you had something somewhere on the ballot. so the concern is if you put it to the states and up to the people, that it will not favor those who are in favor of anti-abortion rhetoric. >> every single state that has voted on this issue since the overturning of roe, which let's keep in mind was only less than two years ago every single state, including deep red states like kansas and kentucky, have voted for the abortion rights side of the ballot, whatever that was. but i think if donald trump thinks that he's sort of ripping off the band-aid here and putting the issue to rest. this is not going to do it there still too many questions outstanding. there are a lot of things he hasn't taken a stance on such as he did not say if there is some kind of federal legislation and he's president, would he sign or veto it? he's a voter in the state of florida that's going to have an abortion initiative on the ballot this fall how is he going to vote on that potential that choice between the current six-week ban and a more liberal standard that goes up to the point of viability. what about

the medication abortion ban that the supreme court is considering right now? so there's still a lot of unanswered questions about how he wants the state of abortion policy to move forward. and i think for that reason he's going to keep getting questions about this really important to think about what's left. this was a week later as you have that six-week ban announced in florida and he said he's going to take a week to say something and this is the way he does it with endurance or questions. >> i'm wondering though, >> what impact this has on his vp pick emily, i don't think it matters. i think evangelicals and more than likely going to stick with donald trump. he chose mike pence because he needed to appeal to that community. he no longer needs mike pence and my personal view there with him. i think donald trump needs to look for a running mate that is going to bring something different to the table. maybe it's a woman, maybe it's a person of color. and in terms of person of color, maybe someone from the latino diaspora, because that's now the largest minority group in the country. and they are very diverse in

terms of their politics. i mean, unlike african americans were 90 plus percent of us are mostly democrats, the latino vote is pretty mix, is pretty split. and so that's the direction i think he should go tactically >> interesting, thinking about evangelicals. we know that mike pence said that it was a slap in the face. this is this statement. >> but we >> also reached out to the influential evangelical leader bob van der platz, who says that trump's stance, quote, is deeply disappointing. the pro-life community is looking for more. >> just thinking about that statement. of course, i do wonder what the impact is going to be given the support in the past. i >> think what you hear in all of these statements, again, is a recognition that they just don't have any leverage over him he is the leader of the party. he has a following that is slavishly devoted to him. and they can cry and scream all they want. but he's the one who is correctly seeing where the middle of the electorate is on this issue, as we just talked about in every state that's had a referendum, even deep red

states the pro-life side has lost. so this is a very active and passionate movement, but it's a minority of the electorate and they know that. and i think you here in these expressions, a disappointment sort of tacit acknowledgment that they just don't have much leverage over donald trump. >> it is a symbolic is it's going to track this symbol, symbolism of the uncommitted votes. the idea that in the primary i'll say this, but ultimately i will turn out for who i think is appropriate. i >> mean, i think at this point, most people know who they're going to vote for. i think it's ultimately going to turn come down to who can maintain heightened and maximize support and leverage within their constituency. but i will say this. i think those republicans within the evangelical community it's with a lot of time working with them when i worked for dr. carson, they have to ask themselves, is it more important to win in november or to seed the election to president biden and democrats, if that is indeed their position. and i would

argue that most conservatives will say, we want to win this november, and that means recognizing the reality that republicans keep losing on this issue. take the l and move on. the american people included a plethora of republicans. you look through the data, are also saying this is not the government's right or position to ultimately determine what family should decide on their own. trump has finally recognized in that i think it's a smart political decision and it's a decision that could down the line yield political benefit to the republican party because currently we're losing. well, a lot to consider. it was so fascinating to hear somebody who had challenged him on this issue. now having that response, molly ball is michael singleton. thank you both so much. >> up ahead >> his name is brian dorsey. he is on death row that to be executed tomorrow. >> but there's a big issue the prison guards who watch him don't want them killed. his lawyers. my guest next there's debris in the sky parents,

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thing dorsey was sentenced to death for the 2006 murders of his cousin, sarah, bonnie, and her husband, benjamin. they had taken a man and offered him a safe place to stay after a confrontation with a drug dealer in his apartment? >> that night. >> he shot sarah and benjamin in their bedroom. >> their four-year-old daughter was >> also home at the time, but was not hurt dorsey himself turned himself in three days later and he is expressed remorse ever since his lawyers say that he had struggled with depression substance abuse and was going through a withdrawal induced psychosis at the time of the murders. now, some of the family members of the victims do support him others described the execution as a quote light at the end of the tunnel adding that brian will get the justice that sarah and ben have deserved for so long. >> now, ask >> for those officers signing on to advocate for dorsey. >> they say he >> lives in the honors dorm and

has the trusted position of working as the prisons barber over the past 11 years, he has cut the hair of wardens, staff, and chaplains. one officer writing some inmates never change no matter how many years they are in but that's not brian. the brian i have known for years could not hurt anyone. the brian i know does not deserve curve to be executed, but he indeed is set to be executed tomorrow evening at 6:00 p.m. local time less than now, 24 hours >> let's bring an >> attorney for brian dorsey, megan crane meghan thank you so. much for joining me this evening tomorrow. the execution time has been set i wonder how is brian doing this evening knowing that his final plea for clemency has now been denied. thank you >> so much, laura. thank you for having me and for covering brian's case for clemency. we do still have two petitions

pending with 30 us supreme court. so while brian is disappointed that the governor did not hear all voices, including correctional voices a to his rehabilitation and his redemption. and explaining why he's uniquely deserving of mercy. he is certainly disappointed. he's still remains hopeful that this execution might be stopped by the us supreme court in the meantime, today, he spent his time visiting with us, his legal team, and then he wanted to spend most of his day dedicated to writing to his loved ones, especially his family. while he's still can >> let's talk about why you say he you believe is uniquely deserving of clemency. many might look at this case and the details of the murder, the leaving behind at this forum for your old little girl as well. >> and >> wonder, why is it because he is now remorseful or because you think there should have been a defense provided for him during the trial? >> it is both in any capital

case, there is going to be a tragedy and a heinous crime at issue. that is how we get to a capital case but here it is both who brian is today and frankly, who he always was. he never had a history of violence before. this singular, singular tragedy, or ever since after this crime by all accounts, was the climax of a time limited mental health crisis experienced by bryan and the addiction he turned to for self-medication when all other treatment failed so we say clemency is warranted because of coogee unquestionably is today who he always has been. and then yes, laura, as you point to this death sentence, was an injustice from the beginning because brian was utterly failed by his trial attorneys at his trial attorneys had done their job in the first place. he would have gotten life and everybody would have been saved. the pain of the past 17 years. >> you may end life without

parole, possibly as opposed to a death penalty sentence, you've pointed out about this and i really was interested in this case for a variety eddie of reasons >> one >> was the claim that his attorneys i've been paid a flat fee of $12,000 each defendant, which if you figure out what it takes to actually litigate and defend someone in a capital case that's about $3.37 an hour obviously, nothing even close to the standard of what you would pay an attorney. what was the impact do you think of a flat fee in this case >> that's, right, laura, i mean, the impact is clear. it is direct. it was his conviction because they convinced him to plead guilty for no benefit with no negotiation with the definitely still on the table before they did any investigation or psychological evaluation of their clients? they did, little, work after the result is his guilty plea and it is his death sentence. >> interestingly enough, and

>> i haven't heard of many cases like this where there has been an unprecedented show of support from within the prisons, from the actual correctional officers, more than 70 of them. i might add a former missouri supreme court judge has also weighed in who no longer stands by the court's decision, five jurors who signed off on his clemency petition as well. >> and yet, you >> also have members of the victims families. and again, this was a cousin of mr. dorsey who was killed and her husband. but there are members of the victims families who support the the execution. they describe it as that light at the end of the tunnel. what do you say to them? who are looking at this issue >> one of the additional tragedies of the death penalty existing at all is once a death sentence is imposed. our system and the prosecutors who sentenced to death instill the belief that justice is not achieved. justice and closure are not final until execution so everybody waits those 17

years thinking this is unresolved, that you cannot have peace, that you cannot have justice or closure until the execute you can and that is very hard to undo no matter what you learn after the fact about who this person is today, about who they were before, about the injustices at play that led to the death sentence in the first place >> and the >> victim's family, just like the jurors who now have come forward to say, if we knew, then what we know now we would not have voted for death everyone was limited in the information they had before them at that trial because the trial attorneys did not do their job you have two more pending appeals, one before the supreme court of the united states. do you have any indication of when you might hear back? obviously, they are known to have gone to the 11th hour in their decisions, even on a last-minute petition for an appeal such as this that's right. so it could come anytime tomorrow, tomorrow night and the execution scheduled that it

could start at six, but the warrant is good for 24 hours. so we can wait past six for those decisions and we will and will remain hopeful this i understand is death by lethal injection the idea of a scheduled execution very difficult to put those two words together. megan crane. thank you so much. >> thank you so much. >> up next day. watershed moment for women's basketball. the antidotal a championship shattering records the most one botched basketball game areas since 2019 will the success continue? that's the big question. and jamal hill is here to talk all about it >> sunday and ninth of space for stoma whole story with anderson cooper, the james webb telescope. are we alone? mahmoud by the two parts, leo space shuttle, columbia, bill final flight sunday starting at eight on cnn.

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final between the us and japan. >> wow. >> now south carolina topped off there. perfect season with a record of 38 and oh and the national title, it was the gamecocks third tournament victory all under coach dawn staley, it was a team win from the seniors all the way to the freshman with tessa johnson coming off the bench to hit career high of 19 point. they took down caitlin clark and the iowa hawkeyes definitively 87 to 75. but coach daily and all of her grace and some words for caitlin clark. nonetheless >> i want to personally thank caitlin clark for lifting up our sport she carried it. she carried a heavy load for our sport and it just is not going to stop here >> and some of the players on her own team with ashlyn watkins, chloe kitts, pow pow,

bri hall, kamilla cardoso. the list goes on and on, and you know, we look at all the people who are joining coming up boon you have people who are going to be declaring and being a part of the wnba as well. i mean, just look if you play them, look at that list i just showed you on the screen there, you've got at least caitlin clark, one of the athletes from the top five in 2020 high school recruits heading now to the wnba, you've got joining her, angel reese, south carolina's kamilla cardoso. she was named that ncaa players tournaments most outstanding player by the way. and here to talk women's who's with me now is gml hills. she is a contributing writer for the atlantic in the host of demille hill is unbothered. jamal, so great to see you. i cannot believe these numbers that came out from yesterday, this says a lot about this sport right now well, before i even get into the numbers, let me i believe there's sometimes a public mistake requires a public >> public apology. so let me

apologize to you because the last time i was on your show, we already had a talk about it. >> i, called you >> sarah because i was thinking about sara sidner. and in my balls brain because people don't know right now that i'm talking to you. i can actually see you. so i thought for some reason i was all with sara, not because of your voice, but i misheard my premises my it's my mistake >> laura. laura loomer get me, sarah, any dead because i love her. thank you very much. you're so funny. you know, i got them by a car. i don't mind at all. i love sarah >> i love so sarah, but i'm going to von now. so about these ratings, they tell a deeper story about this explosion. we're seeing and women's basketball, it's been a steady ascension in this sport for years but four so long, women had been told that if you just give us the product, if you just give us the compelling and charismatic figures that people will watch, they've actually been doing that for while, but now this

leaves people no excuse, because we saw the women's said three ratings record in one week. it started when lsu and iowa, there was the rematch game and the elite eight that at the time, most-watched women's basketball game ever? the four days later, their records still for four days. and when i will face uconn, a premier program. and women's college basketball and has been for decades now that said another record, records rating and so for sunday to be the culmination of everything we've seen from this season, the last few years. and frankly since the beginning of this game, in many respects, because there were a lot a players, a lot of pioneers who suffered through indignant after indignity to get to this point and to see women's basketball putting up a nfl like rating just for context, you've mentioned some great night numbers. this average, this game average more viewers than all of last year's nba finals. there will

only for college football games last season that could be the number of people who watch this game. so we're talking about a major shift in women's sports to how do they carry that momentum forward and keep the hype going? i mean, i just named a couple of players who are stars in their own rise with different teams going through wnba. is that the next frontier? >> yes it very easily is already the las vegas aces who by the way, had i believe they had their first cell out of like they're sold out for the season. this happened before anything happened in this women's basketball season before that even concluded the las vegas aces, who are the defending champions in the wnba, already a hot draw. they've already moved the game in which they anticipate they, caitlin clark will be playing into a bigger arena. i saw a tweet from the phoenix from the phoenix wnba franchise that show the mercury that is where they're pitting already dying. it's arrestee who's already

has comments about caitlin clark and they're saying, oh, come see the legend versus the risky. so this is already a marketing tool in the wnba, and i think there is going to be a lot of the fans that were drawn to the college game and drawn to seeing caitlin clark, they're totally going to move that interests to the next level where she'll be challenged in a different way, like she's going to be faces some grown women who had been putting in some work in this game for years, like grown women who've been playing overseas, who had been the best in their respective rights for a long time. and i think people are very curious to see how her tremendous skill set translates into the big leagues that might be the same, obviously for angel reese as well, for a kamilla cardoso. all they're all going to have to prove themselves. yeah, again, as the rookies coming in. but you know, who has already proved what herself, the coach, dawn staley. i mean, what a force to be reckoned with and undefeated season three national title. she turns out stars who go on

to excel in the wnba and she's had to restart and rebuild nearly every single year. angel reese even tweeted her support for us daily thanking her for her own deport. what is all this say to you about dawn staley as a coach >> i think i didn't think about this until today, but there's been a lot of former players who've become coaches who are former college or wnba coaches who've become head coaches in the nc play. in the ncw a field >> i think dawn might be the best. and the reason why is that when you compare where her credentials were as a player, a multiple winter of national player of the year. and although her team didn't win it because it was during a time with tennessee was winning everything. she was the only i believe to date the only woman who was voted most outstanding player in the final four, despite her team and losing the national championship. so she was official as a college player. she's a olympian,

she's certified as a player then you look at her coaching resume and that might be as impressive or more impressive, then what she did as a player, which is saying a lot and dawn staley is really right now the gold standard >> she >> deserves a ton of credit for this coaching job. in particular, she lost five starters last year including the number one pick in the draft in aliyah boston. and here she comes and rituals and re stacks and is able to beat the player that is considered arguably the best offensive player that the women's college game has ever seen. it says a lot about her as a coach. and when you look at her team and the joy that they play with the ferocious snus but the joy and the love that they play with for each other that says a lot about dawn, the player, dawn the coach, and dawn the person. i mean, i had the pleasure. i'm going to paris when they play notre dame at the start of the year and you saw it then she just has a special connection with these young people and now she's put ourselves in the position to be considered in the same vein as

a geno auriemma or pat summit. both legends in the game and while she's still is behind them and championships, the fact is she is coming and there's no signs that the south carolina program is slowing down >> undeniable greatness to mow hill. thank you so much for joining tonight. >> and i appreciate you having beyond. and again, a pilot for this? yes. i'm going back to it. love, love you. bye. thank you all for watching, citing app laura codes. thank you so much. i cover is continuous to fight this war. >> and women house of. >> the dragon streaming on macs when you disaster clean up and restoration what do you make like an even happened, happened

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