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incoming into israel and the top us general for the middle east general erik kurilla. he's been in israel for several days preparing for this variety of scenarios. >> no question. and some of those assets being moved into the region are specifically for that task of potentially shooting down anything incoming. just briefly, alex, the us and around have been communicating directly and indirectly to what end? >> well, both public and private messages from iran to the united states, essentially saying stay out of it, that is between us and israel. the us has responded saying that you should not go after us targets and don't escalate the situation. and that is a message that iran has been getting from a number of different corners from the europeans, from the arabs to what extent they will listen remains to be seen we could expect back to a very calculated but very significant retaliation by iran. jim no question. we know all eyes are watching right now. alex marquardt. thanks so much for joining. thanks so much. all of you for joining us tonight on outfront ac30, 60 starts now
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>> tonight are three 60. the first former president ever to face criminal trial says he would testify, but that does not mean he will new filings details. can i also with arizona now back to 18, 64 and abortion vice president harris goes there to make try to make sure that it is a voting issue this year and an exclusive look at how one big city is fighting a national problem, wholesale outbreak of retail theft that's costing businesses billions. >> good evening. we begin tonight with breaking news, two big >> items go into monday's new york hush money, trial. the first of four criminal trials that donald trump is facing. there's breaking news as well tonight in the federal documents trial, and we'll get to that shortly. first things first though, late today, the former president was asked whether he would testify in his new york trial hello, and this is what he said >> i would testify. absolutely. it's a scam. it's a scam that's not a trail. that's not a trend, that's a scam. and what they're doing is a crime. they are criminals. all i can
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do is tell the truth and the truth is that there's no case they have no case so that's item one. >> he claims >> he would >> testify, but would and will are two different things and remains to be seen if he actually will sit down on the stand under oath. item two is what the judge they ruled on another delay attempt plus a new request about jury selection for that, we go to kara scannell so care, can you just talk about this last-minute filing from the trump team? >> so there was a new decision tonight by judge juan merchan, who is overseeing the case, saying that he was denying trump's motion for pretrial publicity. trump was saying that because of all the publicity, couldn't get a fair trial in new york. judge, deny that saying that trump in fact has caused a lot of the pretrial publicity, saying delaying this case is not tenable because there will never be a period of time when there isn't publicity. but trump's team also made a late filing today that is related to this issue. they asked the judge to amend how he is going to question the jury pool when they first come in, the judge
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said he would ask if anyone could not serve on this jury because they're not fair or impartial or for any other reason, trump's team is asking the judge to separate that because they wanted to try to build data for their appeal. they've been arguing that they should get a change of venue in this case because of the publicity and because they believe manhattan nights tend to vote democratic and would be a against trump. so they want the judge to separate it and ask anybody here who can't be fair and impartial separate from anyone who can't serve in this jury because maybe they have a religious reason or for some other reasons such as travel. so they're trying to build data for this appeal that they tried to execute earlier this week. also to argue that they should just move this case out of new york city and did the did the judge rule on that motion yet and could the trump team on monday is still try to come up with another filing? >> so the da's team will have a chance to respond to this, and the judge has not ruled yet. this is likely to be the topic of conversation when everyone enters it's into the
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courtroom on monday morning before the judge brings the first pool of jurors in, then it's likely the judge will make his ruling on this. he could amend it to accommodate that, or he could stick with what he's done he previously said he didn't want to individually question these jurors because he said he found that to be unnecessary and didn't really yield a different result. but the question will be before the judge, when everyone assembles into that courtroom on monday morning. >> here's girl. thanks so much joining us now and the law and the politics former trump campaign adviser and current cnn senior political commentator david urban, timmy aganga-williams as well, who served as senior investigative counsel to the house january 6 committee, and also former manhattan chief assists district attorney karen friedman, agnifilo. agnifilo. so what do you think the former president's trying to basically change the jury selection process at this point >> why he's trying to do is find a basis and appeal to say that he's not getting a fair jury. >> he's trying to get gather data as karatay. planning for central conviction here,
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because what he's trying to say is that i want to understand all the different bases by which these jurors could perhaps not be fair to be enough, be impartial. and i want to parse it out. so if i want to highlight specific things to the appellate court, i'm able to have that information from the trial court to send up. he's preparing like a good lawyer should is legal team here, prepared with potential daddy? he's either convicted and what's the challenge is process or if you want to seek some kind of integral interlocutory appeal now, meaning he wants to challenge to go up right down the middle, then he has the opportunity to do so >> karen, do you actually think it's likely he would testify he thinks he's his best spokesperson and he's testified and he testified in his e jean carroll >> case and also in the arthur engoron civil fraud trial. so i think he still sees that nothing to lose because why wouldn't he he already thinks that people in manhattan can't be fair and impartial. and so what does he got to lose? he really only asked to convince
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one person and then he could get a hung jury. so i think it is likely that you would testify. why wouldn't me david, what do you think? do you think he would? >> yeah, should i let let's in the karen's point, i think that the chance of donald trump getting a fair trial in new york city may not be zero, but it's pretty close to zero, right? in the filing that the president's lawyers submitted to the court, they submitted a poll of 2000 manhattan nights that it found at 61% of people in manhattan already believed that guilty in this case, if you peel back the onion a little bit further and go to the 2020 election. 76% of people in new york's had manhattan. and this jury pool voted for joe biden, 23% voted for donald trump so it's gonna be pretty tough to find a jury that is not somehow predisposed. if you find that that trump that pro-trump juror psych, find a needle in the haystack and we're hearing all this talk about data and building data. i think in the
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year 2024, the fact that we're relying on jurors to self-report bias is kind of crazy data is available, readily available, you could, you could get gathered tons of data on every one of these jurors, see what they've looked at on their internet searches and see if they've if they've voted for trump or posting anti-trump messages on social media, it's easy to find whether somebody is pro-trump or not. and then when they go in seeded this jury, who's going to want us, who's going to want to recuse himself from the biggest trial and the history of new york city david, you want the deepstate to be investigating potential jurors i think >> relying on us. i think relying on people in these instances, write a jurors to self-report in criminal cases. is a little nutty. i i do anderson listen, i was a jury foreman in a rape trial the alexandria, virginia, and i can tell you it's a pretty scary place to be if you're a defendant >> to me, i mean, what do you think about the the the ability
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to find fair juror or i mean, even if people have a predisposition or they don't like somebody i mean, it's many jurors would say, well, i can still be fair based on whatever the evidence presented is, and we see that every day. so i would disagree with david's perspective. i was federal prosecutor that i've done trials and people take this really, really seriously. they treat this like a solemn event. and i think i have a lot of faith in jurors, and i think the fact that someone is performing hatton or how they voted does not determine whether or not they're going to be a fair juror. and that's why we have those. i think 40 plus questions that judge that the judge is going to be asking here because you do have the opportunity to parse out to answer the question, and then you'll ask them a lot of things. who did you what kind of podcasts those into what tv shows do you watch? the books have you read any font in your family's law enforcement? all these questions give you incredible insight into who a juror is. and it's not merely asking them, can you be fair? all these other data points allow the lawyers to really parse out to these people are
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and i think that's why on average, right. are jurors really attend to end up with the right? result here, if the government can meet its high-burden, karen, i'm what's your experience? >> because i mean, the >> whole system is based on a juror jury of your peers and people from all walks of life, just coming in yeah exactly. it's not like it's a different standard here in manhattan than it is every, in every other courtroom in the entire country in both state and federal courts. and every single case, you're able to ultimately find fair and impartial jurors. >> it's not >> what it's whether you can be fair in this particular case. and as temidayo i said, there's questions that are designed to ask that. >> and i think nobody nobody is pro murder or prorate yet sometimes there are cases that ended in acquittals because it's about making sure that the people prove the case beyond a reasonable doubt. and i agree that jurors take that very seriously. and so i think the problem associate excellent lawyers on both sides. you have a really good judge here. this
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is not inexperienced people. they know how to pick a jury. they know how to ask the right questions and something to keep in mind is donald trump has to be there every single day because it's a criminal cases going to be sitting at that jury table that i'm sitting at the counsel table, and he's going to actually have have to agree that every single juror so this is gonna be a jury that he picks two. he and his lawyers agree to that these are the jurors that they want sitting in judgments >> no problem >> what anderson i would just point out, your andrew i would just point out the voir dire process. i think generally works right? if it's not donald trump, this is a different case. this is a one of one, a former president united states, who, who, who enraged is certain people. >> but then what's the answer? what's the answer? you can i mean, i listen if you if you if you could go through everyone in new york, right? good. go one by one. i don't know. i mean the two criminal attorneys here could give you a better answer. i was i was a public finance lawyer, bond lawyer,
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not a trial lawyer, but i don't think get unlimited strikes, right? you don't get unlimited strikes to the jury pool. you have a limited amount of people. you can you can bounce off a jury. so at some point you've got to accept the folks who were there, whether they're good or bad. >> thanks, everyone. we will see it starts monday good morning the actual process on monday. and the thought, i'm going into it from both sides, cnn's jessica schneider has that this is election interference. >> donald trump's outsized personality could present a challenge to lawyers monday as they set out to find 18 unbiased manhattan residents to decide trump's criminal hush money keeps. you have a former president of the united states, someone who is very controversial, how difficult is it going to be des, a jury based on the defendant here, i think it's going to be difficult. it's going to take a long time. dr. leslie ellis has worked as a jury consultant for 25 years she estimates it could take more than a week for lawyers to settle on 12 jurors plus six alternates, and for
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both sides, it may be more about weeding out the wrong ones than finding the right ones. >> one sort of overriding premise of jury selection is that it's a misnomer. it's drug de selection. it sort of finding those two or three people who really scare you for whatever reason. and to get rid of them, hundreds of potential jurors will arrive at the manhattan criminal courthouse monday morning, once inside the courtroom, they'll come face-to-face with trump. he has the right to sit through jury selection and sources tell cnn he plans to be there. anyone with conflicts like knowing someone involved in the case or strong biases, they can't disregard will likely be immediately dismissed then the work begins each juror will have to answer 42 very specific questions out loud inside the courtroom. they range from where they live to whether they support extremist groups like q and on the proud boys or antifa, they'll even be asked to do disclose what news organizations they listened to >> really getting to understand
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who this juror is, what does jurors is going to do when he or she gets the evidence house is juror going to interact with this code? jurors, it's your own opportunity to get a feel for them as people and not as number 123, et cetera, this jury will be very different from the last when trump faced during the e jean carroll defamation case that jerry was in federal court and the jurors came not only from manhattan, but also a diverse array of surrounding counties. this jury will only be drawn from manhattan, where voters overwhelmingly chose joe biden in 2020, nearly 87% to 12% political hello affiliation doesn't necessarily mean bias right? and that's what they're going to have to figure out. there may be lots of reasons for somebody to vote for a candidate that don't necessarily de facto translate into a bias for or against the other candidate. >> the jurors who ultimately >> get selected will not be known to the public their names, images, and identities will not be released even though lawyers on both sides will know their names. dr.
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ellis says trump's attorney prosecutors will have to be on high alert for any potential juror who might hide their true feelings in an effort to ultimately up and deliberate i'm not a big believer that stealth jurors are everywhere, but in a case like this, there's definitely a higher risk of a stealth juror, meaning someone who >> intentionally keeps quiet about an opinion to get on the jury. they're not that common. they're not as common as a lot of people think. but here that's a real risk. >> jessica schneider cnn, washington let's still to come tonight. more breaking news. vice president harris and battleground state of arizona telling supporters the former president is at fault for the state's new near total ban on abortion. and later smash and grab robberies in stores around the country will take you inside of chicago task force that is trying to fight back file 100% free with turbotax free edition. roughly 37% of taxpayers >> qualify for me in ten, 40 and limited credits only. see how a turbotax.com that's me
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demonstrated once and for all that overturning roe was just the opening act. just the opening act of a larger strategy to take women's rights and freedoms part of a full on attack state by state on reproductive freedom and and we all must understand who is to blame former president donald trump did this during his news conference today, mar-a-lago, the former president, was also asked several questions about his position on abortion, namely, would he sign a national ban and how would you describe his position on abortion now? >> wow. >> she said that it would sayyed federal abortion ban in congress senate to your desk. why should americans structure word that would not do it now? if you will >> realize because we don't need it any longer because we broke roe v. wade over the last few decades, mr. president, you have both can sit yourself
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pro-choice and pro-life, which one? >> but you know exactly which one it is. and when i was in new york and when i was a democrat also just like ronald reagan, ronald reagan was a democrat followed a very similar path. >> but if you look at >> what we've done with roe v. wade, we did something that everyone said couldn't be done and we got it done which point out he did not actually directly answer the question of whether he is in the words of the report or pro-choice or pro-life, camila bernal is in arizona tonight or >> protests for abortion rights supporters. so the vice president clearly sees this ruling as both disastrous for women and an opportunity for the biden i'm campaign, what are folks they're telling you >> look, there's so glad anderson that the vp was here because they said that they want as much attention in to this issue as possible. they told me both visibility and the vp needs visibility when it comes to this issue and when it comes to what they're fighting for in november, because a lot of these people here, what they're trying to do is find a
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balance to have this be on the ballot in november of 2024, so that they can go out and vote for the right to an abortion to have it be in the state constitution. so many people of all ages have come out here today. we're outside of city hall and they're trying to get people will involve that are driving by city hall. there's people of all ages who have told me, some who've said, i thought for this in the 70s and i'm fighting for it's again now others who say this is the first time they're coming out to protest, to get involved in issues like this. but there is no doubt that all over the state because we've been in phoenix and in other places, this issue has motivated people energize a lot of the voters here in arizona and they see this as an opportunity come november. they see this opportunity to get this not only at the national level, but here in arizona and have a solution to what they see as a very big problem here in the state let me all thanks very much perspective now from russell moore, editor and chief of christianity today, margaret
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hoover, republican consultant, and kate bedingfield, former biden white house communications director margaret let start with you. i'm how much do you think the issue three abortion, particular what we've seen in the last week is going to reshape this race or shape this. >> i think fundamentally, it reshapes the race. anderson. now you see, not just that arizona has gone back to 19th century law that is motivated as you saw, all those folks to come out in a state that frankly, joe biden was really risking losing, even though he'd gone up by 10,000 votes in 2020. the poll suggests that trump really didn't have the upper hand because of the issue of the border. this is totally turned this on its tables and it's not just arizona. arizona has now really flipped because of the abortion issue. but if you have a ballot initiative in arizona, you have a ballot initiative in florida, you may have a ballot initiative in colorado may have won in new york, there are states moving to put abortion on the ballot, and all these issues. and by the way, democrats aren't dumb. >> they're doing this because >> this motivates people to go
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to the polls when they're voting for abortion rights are also for joe biden. they're voting against donald trump rafat mean the former president would even say he's pro-life or pro-choice. he also said a federal ban isn't needed since roe v. wade was overturned i'm wondering what you think evangelical voters out there, and obviously there's a lot of different kinds of evangelical voters we'll think of the way he's sort of positioning himself now >> well, as someone who's both pro-life and anti-trump, i was confused by the rhetoric. i think he's trying to make this intentionally murky. the problem is that a pro-life vision requires a moral vision requires fires persuasion as to why every human life is valuable and that requires a particular view of human dignity, of vulnerability. and we don't have that here, especially when you look at the kari lake senate add let's sounded exactly like a planned parenthood superpac ad for pro-choice candidate. these people seem to be acting as
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though they're pro-life with three exceptions for rape, incest, and declining poll numbers. and that's not a compelling moral vision to persuade the hearts and minds of people. >> kate, i mean, former president trump falsely claim, >> say that every legal scholar wanted roe v. wade overturned how much i mean is the vice present going to camp out in arizona? i mean, is this how much is this going to be front and center for the biden campaign >> i expect it will be if they have their way, it'll be front and center every single day because it is such a does represent such a fundamental threat for women across the country and also as folks have been discussing here, we know that it motivates voters. we know that it turns people out democrats certainly, but also independence and moderate republicans two, we've seen that states across the country. we saw it in 2022. we saw with ballot initiatives in 23 and there's no reason to believe we aren't gonna see it again in 24, so yes, i would expect that you will see vice president harris and president biden out talking about this. i
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would expect there'll be many trips to arizona because the stakes couldn't be higher. and this is an issue that turned as people out to the polls, so they would be, they'd be foolish not to frankly >> margaret i mean, the this is an issue that works for democrats. obviously when it's interesting because donald trump clearly thought several days ago when he came out and talking about states rights that this was a good way to handle this issue. and then with the arizona decision, it's he seems to be searching for what position he should be taken >> clearly, he doesn't know what he i think he has a very good sense of what the polls are. i think i think he's reading the polls on that whole sorts of issues right now, i think fisa and ukraine, he's also reading polls and saying with the public really wants about that because this is a general election argument. now, he is through the primary, right the federalism argument really worked for republicans broadly and it was a unifier. this federalism argument about overturning roe v. wade, right? even pro-choice republicans who
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didn't want roe v. wade overturned i mean, you would hear sort of moderate plug-in saying, well, if the states are for, you know, we'll see what happens. states will have to go to the polls and they'll have to pass protections and there was this sort of constitutional argument that made it seem reasonable when you have throwback laws for the 19th century, when horsehair was used as surgical thread. all right, when women couldn't vote or own property or have bank accounts, be the standard. now. and by the way, it >> has opened up >> this possibility for really right wing extremist groups who advocate really lawfare this area, especially on social conservative issues, is alliance defending freedom, which was the group that created the argument that won the day at the state supreme court in arizona >> nobody >> expected that the floodgates would be open to such extreme legal arguments that have been one the de within the context of the conservative movement. and i defer to russell moore in terms of how he, how he predicted it, but i certainly as sort of a mainstream republican didn't expect that
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the extremes would harness all of the energy and really see there, their extreme vision implemented so broadly. >> do you think there will be the same level of enthusiasm among evangelicals this time around before the former president and he's clearly lost you along. >> well, right now, i see i see a difference right now between the trump enthusiasts for whom this will matter or not at all, the fifth avenue law rule holds. the man has literally on trial next week, criminal trial for hush money to so a porn star and nobody flinch it. so i don't think that that will affect them. i think there are a lot of other people who are just exhausted and seemed to have a kind of magical thinking if we don't mention donald trump, we won't have to live through the kind of division we went through in 2016 and 2020 and seem to be thinking, wow, something will happen and the problem is that's not true. we're headed into 2024, whether we like it or not
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>> you heard vice president harris called the arizona supreme court abortion ruling inflection point how good of a messenger issue you think on this issue? >> well, she's excellent. i mean, i think this is an issue that she clearly feels very passionately about and it's not a surprise when candidate, when an elected official feels really strongly about something they are an effective messenger, they deliver it with passion. i think you certainly saw that from her in arizona today, and i would note the fact that her team moves so quickly to get her to arizona >> it is not >> easy and it's not simple to move the vice president quickly. so there's a lot of security logistics existing conflicts on her schedule that make it hard to move quickly. so the fact that she wanted to be so nimble and get there quickly and really drive this again just reinforces what an effective message, an issue this is for the biden-harris campaign but also as a
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reflection of how strongly she feels about this. and so that makes her a powerful messenger. >> okay. thank you very much. margaret hoover, russell moore as well. thank you so much coming up next back to the trunk trials more breaking news in the slow-moving documents case and a high-stakes hearing for his co-defendants >> i thought i knew a lot about are irish roots. i was surprised to learn so many more things. >> the family name nine, wow, pow. >> and here's the boat. they came over on. >> yes >> wow. >> when barbara switch to turbotax i. wrote four generations of family tradition >> i want to make perfume >> so i mean, barbers, new psyche, count by guaranteeing her maximum refund into interval tax. >> i was born with wings with psoriasis clipped them until i got clear skin with themselves most people got 100 percent clear skin. some after the first dose, serious side effects, including suicidal
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even knew that there was classified documents in those boxes, that there accused of moving at mar-a-lago. they also said they didn't even know that there was an investigation or that there was a subpoena that had been served on the former president, the judge really showed some skepticism to those arguments, saying that a lot of what they were saying where essentially things that should be presented to a jury that you should go to trial and argue that four before the jury. so she seems at least an inclined to buy their arguments we also heard though, during this hearing, something interesting that we hadn't heard before from jay bratt, one of the prosecutors on jack smith at the special counsel's team. he said that at least some of the documents that were transported from here in florida to bedminster at the former president's golf club in new jersey. he says that the fbi didn't recover all of those all of those boxes, and perhaps containing some documents. and so the
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possibility was raised that there might still be documents and there still might be boxes somewhere out there that the fbi never recovered at the end of that raid in mar-a-lago. so we didn't hear a ruling from the judge today and we don't know when she might rule what's next in the case >> well, as you as you've repeatedly pointed out, this is a slow moving case. and so every time we come into court, we think, hey, could this be the day that judge aileen cannon gives us a trial date says us tells us when if and when this is going to trial is just going to happen this year, that did not happen today. and so we are still waiting. we still have as you pointed out, probably over ten motions that are still left to be decided. we don't know whether she's going to call hearings for every single one of those donald trump was not in his in court today. but his one of his lawyers was there. and so we wait. anderson to see whether we get a trial date at the next
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hearing. and then perez, thanks so much. johnnie. sounds california democratic congressman or swalwell who serves on the house judiciary and homeland security committee's congressman do think i mean, judge cannon's obviously gotten a lot of criticism, including from retired federal judges about how she's handling this. does her skepticism or parents skepticism about dropping the obstruction charges against trump's co-defendants, change anything in your view >> will know anderson. again, this case is largely driven by the facts and of course i don't agree with her rulings. i will respect them. i'll show them the respect that donald trump doesn't show in any ruling goes against him. but the facts in these cases are so clear that even if you were to put aside what was the motive for donald trump to take so many of these documents to mar-a-lago he was asked repeatedly to give them back. so if the motive was financial, are the motive was to leverage them in some way regardless of that, he was asked over and over and over hey, give us
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these documents back. they protect the troops, they protect our national security and not only did he not give him back, he asked others to hide them and conceal them. so i think the facts are just so damning as to what did this person do when he was asked he did the absolute worst thing that a leader should do in that position you're not optimistic though that this is going to go to trial so before the election or you the supreme court case on the presence immunity will drive that. and if the justices come back and say that he does not have absolute immunity, which most folks believe is going to be the case it could go to trial before the election bit by the way >> he won >> in the democratic party, no one who wants to make sure john trump is not president should not be counting on donald trump's legal cases as some sort of way to keep donald trump for becoming president. like we have to draw the contrast to the voters. we have to highlight what president biden has done. but in no plan
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that i'm aware of. are we counting on donald? trump's legal troubles benefit in benefiting us in november. >> i'm wondering your thoughts when you saw a former president trump and house speaker mike johnson to people who attempted to overturn the 2020 election, urging a crackdown today on non-citizens voting in presidential elections. something that has already illegal and extraordinarily rare. i just want to play a clip for, you. >> here's the house republicans are introducing a bill that will require proof of citizenship to vote it seems like common sense. i'm sure all of us would agree. we only want us citizens to vote in us elections but there are some democrats who don't want to do that. there's so many millions of illegals in the country that if only one out of 100 voted, they would cast potentially hundreds of thousands of votes. in the election. that could turn an election i'm warning what you made if his trip down in mar-a-lago spare me, henderson. i mean, it's too
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rich that donald trump and mike johnson are talking to us about election integrity. that's like having to listen to a lecture by bonnie and clyde on bank security. i mean, it's absurd considering what they did in the 2020 election to try and overturn it. but if you want to go ahead, let, let's accept the argument that non-citizens are voting. well, it's already illegal for non-citizens to vote. and so they're going after something that is already illegal. and by the way, it's not a thing like they're focusing on something that's not a thing something that is a thing is that ukraine is on the ropes, right now and there's bipartisan support in the congress to give them the aid they need the border needs more resources, is in the way of border agents as well as judges to adjudicate cases and gun violence is the number one killer of our children in america. and nothing's been done on that. so it's speaker johnson and spent more time in washington rather than stoking an issue that's not there.
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perhaps we could address those three critical acute issues. >> right now. i also want to >> play something that trump said about the flack that mike johnson is getting from a merger. taylor greene, who is taking steps to oust him from the speaker's office i think. >> he's doing a very good job. he's doing about as good as you're going to do and i'm sure that marjorie understands that she's a very good friend of mine and i know she has a lot of respect for the speaker how do. >> you interpret that? i mean, it's sort of boilerplate of stuff. he says it during a very good job. it's all sort of meaningless, but i mean, do you think trump can save him? >> will trump will keep them there as long as he's useful to trump it in right now. speaker johnson is the managing partner of the largest law firm in washington, dc, and they have just one client that's donald trump. and so they killed the border security bill negotiated by the most conservative senator james lankford in president biden, because donald trump didn't
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want it. they tried to kill the surveillance bill to target terrorists because donald trump didn't like it and only wants trump liked speaker johnson's version. did it pass? so he'll stay there as long as it's beneficial to trump and by the way, with trump, it's always me, me, me in anytime he says america first, he means donald trump first, and then he'll just pull along everyone else in the congress who's willing to go with him. and they're finding that america's interests are not necessarily donald trump's interests congressional swallow, thanks very much >> an exclusive >> look inside chicago's efforts to fight a national problem with billions of dollars organized retail theft, those smashing grad robberies. next means night, with abdullah. tonight at eastern on cnn >> zehr take allergy relief works fast. it lasts a full 24 hours. so dave can bva deliverer dance
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statistics, whoever show that murder, other reported violent crimes and property pretty crimes. i'll drop last year. murder rates are even down in cities like chicago, where violent crime became a flashpoint in the covid years. still, other forms of crime have been more persistent, wouldn't you? wild has an exclusive inside louk tonight. and our chicago authorities are trying to stop organized retail theft a theft known as smash and grab robberies >> the crimes are casual and brazen. video shared exclusively with cnn by the illinois cook county sheriff's office, shows in less than a minute, a group of people calmly walk into a beauty supply store. clear shelves of high-end products throw them into trash bags and stroll out the door as casually as they entered. law enforcement calls cases like this organized retail theft when groups band together to seal a high volume of products and then resell them nationwide industry experts say it's a multi-billion-dollar problem. >> no no >> video shows the crimes are almost always quick. some cases
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turn violent in january as chicago police officer and suspect or shot after police responded to a smash and grab, not get gop, do not get time stay loop. it's just another day >> another task forces like this one in cook county, illinois, home to chicago, are trying to stop the problem cnn got exclusive access to the cook county sheriff's organized retail crime task force this search warrant yielded two felony arrests and hundreds of thousands of dollars in stolen goods from what police say was a crime ring spanning the midwest during the search, police found stolen products ranging from dog leashes to toothpaste to supplements. what struck me was that they actually seem to have security seals? >> yes. >> still i'm luckily for us, we got them at today. we're unabo cleaa les ce say the operation targeted five cationhe total hall. have you ever seen a search warrant yield this much product? n noi'm close most
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>> $500,000 to get something i one operatiothis is a lot and i think this would be a lot for any police department anywhere in count, co cnty sheriff tom da created the team in 2023 high profile smashed and grabs in the city have attracted national attention. dart, a former prosecutor says in the past, law enforcement didn't prioritize theft and penalties have been too low i mean you'd have to be a idiot to think that if you're charged with a misdemeanor, that's going to have any consequence whatsoever. a 2022 law stiffen the penalty for organized retail theft and illinois coast to coast officials are proposing similar measures governor kathy hochul proposed beefed-up penalties for retail theft and 45 million to fight the problem. and as governor, i'm not going to stand by and watch phrase and thieves wreak havoc and their shops. >> california governor gavin newsom is spreading $267 million among law enforcement
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agencies. and in january, proposed felony charges and longer sentences for certain cases >> we've taken this very seriously. we've been very proactive, not just are in southern california, but throughout the state. >> dart says often stolen goods are sold online. we believe this >> group here is all from amazon. >> this looks so legitimate. >> oh, my god. yeah. i mean, there's nothing here that would lead you to believe this is not on the up and up. nothing. >> dart says he worries organized retail crime shows no signs of slowing down. >> this is very large, unfortunately, i think this is sort of a tip of the iceberg winning while joins us now from chicago, or what are the biggest challenges for police and retailers trying to stop this >> we understand these cases are so complex, they frequently span states and counties. and so the real challenge here is to try to coordinate the law enforcement agencies. again, different counties and different states and then include the private sector business businesses that have been affected in those multiple jurisdictions as well. that's what taskforce is like. this, try to do, get all these entities together to work together to combat this issue.
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meanwhile, online platforms are also taking a robust approach. in fact, when we reached out to amazon about this story, they said their crime investigators and their analysts frequently send paces to law enforcement and those have resulted in arrests, not just in the anderson, but all around the world. >> all right. when you while thanks more breaking news coming up. present, biden says he expects iran to retaliate against israel, quote, sooner than later for this attack on its consulate compound in syria last week, his direct message for tehran and what sources say is happening there now, next making the switch to battery was one of the best decisions that we made. the company >> good for you do for work right now, get a free battery with the purchase of select professional steel tools. >> real still, find your this making you uncomfortable. >> good. >> when you've got type two diabetes like me, you have up to four times greater risk of stroke, heart attack, or worse death even when meeting your
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>> my expectation suitably later >> to iran in this moment >> no >> official say that iran strike against israel would be in response to this airstrike on iran's consulate in syria's capital last week, which tehran said killed three iranian generals let's get some perspective now from cnn's jeremy diamond in jerusalem, also with us scene and military analysts and retired general wesley clark. jeremy, what is the level of concern in israel tonight >> will anderson is forces are certainly on high alert tonight, anticipating an iranian response to that israeli strike last week on what was a described as aid iranian consular facility in damascus killing a senior high level iranian commander. the question is, where will that response now come? i'm told that israeli government officials are preparing for the possibility of an iranian attack on israeli facilities inside of israel. but one thing is clear, israel military establishment wants to show that no matter what the
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response from iran, no matter where they attack, they say that israeli forces are prepared to respond already tonight, we've seen israeli forces responding to a barrage of rockets that were fired by hezbollah a towards northern israel. about 40 rockets that were either intercepted or fell into open areas to explosive drones were also intercepted, but israeli forces are preparing of course, for something much more significant perhaps in terms of an iranian response, the question is, what type of response when will it come? that will also determine how israel chooses to respond going forward and attack when israeli soil. in particular, by iranian forces directly would be something that would escalate the situation considerably. >> general. >> what >> would you anticipate? i mean, would it would run directly strike or do you think in more likely be through sort of proxy forces? >> i be surprised if iran directly strikes anderson. they're very close to getting nuclear capacity. they know that if they strike israel
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directly israeli itching for a chance to take out their nuclear facilities. now the united states doesn't want a big escalation. so maybe the united states would try to prevail on israel not to do this. but this has been a continuous debate in israel for 15 years about what to do about iran nuclear capacity. and as you're getting closer and closer to it everybody in israel understand that once you're on is a nuclear power. everything's different in the region. show this would be a big opportunity for israel if iran actually does come in and strike in general clerk, i mean the israeli, the iron jones system. do you think it's capable of handling most of what thrown in israel? >> ron, it's not only the iron dome, but they also have other missile interceptors including the arrow system, which is been proven effective against our hoodie bombardments coming from hoodie front from yemen up into israel i think the israelis are very, very confident that they can handle this and that's why
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they put out the assurances to their people and show we've seen anderson the moon was are there pretty sli there pretty cautious there? they're not going to follow their rhetoric and every case, obviously we're getting intelligence. it says are preparing to do something. so we're on alert. but will they make take the decision to do it or if they come after israel, they're making a big mistake >> in the next level of escalation would would also be any kind of targeting us military assets in the region. what i mean, what are the assets in the region right now? >> well, us forces are positioned all across this region and their sin, and we've seen them of course, come under fire in the past from iranian proxies in the region at this hour, us officials are indicating that they don't expect to this iranian response to target us forces in the region, but the united states has deployed additional air defense assets in the region in anticipation for this also because us officials are also
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saying that they may try an intercept, any potential attacks by iranian proxies headed towards israel. we've seen them do that in the past as it relates to some of those houthi attacks being fired from yemen towards israel. some of those to have been intercepted by the us navy. we've also no, of course, that there are us forces deployed in the region elsewhere that could anticipate, that could potentially intercept any missiles or other assets that are fired from iranian proxies in iraq as well. so we know that us forces and israeli believe forces are closely coordinating that visit earlier today by the head of us central command meeting with the defense minister in israel meeting with israel's a top general as well intended to showcase that close collaboration and very much sending a message to iran anderson journal kharkov. >> what do you think the chances of any kind of wider regional conflict are >> actually there? they're law,
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right now. we've done everything we could do diplomatically to head this off and have a lot of people pressuring the iranians. the iranian economies or mesh he had actually soldiers walk off the job because they're not paid the range of taken social security money from their body inflation's high, people can't jet jeez, i can't afford it. they can afford gasoline. so really this is the moodle as against the people in some respect were they to get into a shooting war with israel they can't count on the support are their own population. those i think they're going to wager that things will look different if they can become a nuclear power and show how that's going to keep them in place. shaw, i see them trying to do something something but being sly, clever maybe something that's a semi deniable, not giving israel a chance to really come in there and take out a drone factories or the