strike. but instead of massing them and doing them in a synchronized way, what they did is used them sequentially. so we were the multinational force was able to pick off different ways of weapons as they came in to the area of operations and they certainly telegraph what they were going to do. but there was a great deal of intelligence. it was prepared for this. it was the techniques that iran used as well as just their capabilities. they certainly have some capabilities and they have a lot of them just like russia does. so the countering this kind of action unlike what russia does, they, they synchronize their operations with a lot of things going in at one time around was very bad in terms of sequencing. there are different weapon system. got it. >> general mark hertling, always great to see you. thank you so much. we are standing by to see donald trump leave trump tower on his way to his criminal trial. in new york and new our oci and a new central starts now this moment from

now, we're going to >> witness something that's never happened before in american history. a former president will head to a near a court to face a felony trial. it all begins to with jury selection tennis morning. we're live outside the courthouse and the donald trump hush money case. also, we have some breaking news for you. the fbi and coast guard have now launched a criminal investigation into the deadly baltimore bridge collapse. and just hours, the woman in charge of weapons on the rust set will be sentenced for her role in the fatal shooting of cinematographer. new details on the insult she hurled at jurors in recording jail phone calls. i'm sara sayyed, john berman and k-pop baldwin this is cnn news central >> and the breaking news this

morning, never before in us history has a former president faced criminal trial never before in us history has former president been charged with falsifying documents to cover up an alleged relationship with an adult film actress never before has the presumed presidential nominee had to sit in a courtroom for four days a week listening to these allegations. it is all happening today. we are standing by to see if donald trump speaks on his the way to the courthouse where he faces 34 criminal charges for his alleged role in a hush money scheme that santa silence of porn star before the 2016 election trump denies any wrongdoing, including the affair jury selection begins today in that trial. it could last as long as six weeks. let's go right to the courthouse. cnn's kristen holmes is there and donald trump has been venting you might say ranting on social media already this morning >> johnny took the words right out of my mouth. if you have any indication of where donald

trump's mindset is that you can look at its truth, social, a series of posts over the last couple of hours ranting about this case, particularly the gag order against them. a lot of it not true crews saying that they are they being the court is able to speak about him, but he's not able to speak about them. i think we can all agree. we haven't seen anything from the judge in this case posting about donald trump on social well media, but he is expected to leave trump tower within the next half-hour. and when he gets there, that's the beginning of jury selection. so what exactly does that look like? we were talking about five hundred people, manhattan citizens, and that is important because from steam had hoped that some of the outer boroughs would be considered. those are the boroughs where they are most likely to see a trump supporter then they, will come, and they filled out a questionnaire which i will get two and one second. once that weeds out people you're talking about roughly 100 people going into the courtroom at one to be vetted. ultimately, they are going to land on 12 jurors with six alternates. there. now let's talk about what exactly they're going to be asked in a

questionnaire. because again, this is what school going to be the first line of defense is going to weed out people automatically. some of the questions there are, where do you get your news? do follow trump on social media? have you ever a time? did a trump attended a trump rally? >> you have any affiliation with >> groups like q and on the proud boys oath, keepers, have you ever participated in an anti trump a vat, then they will move on to this betting by the judge. and just to know both the prosecution and the defense as are allowed to veto without any questions. asieh, ten people on each side. >> so >> this is just the beginning of what could last up to two months. this trial as a whole, what does that look like? you get as you said, this is unprecedented. you are going to have trump. he is required to attend in a courtroom roughly four days a week. they're going to be some holidays here and there. that has every weekday except for wednesdays how does this square with his campaign? well, we're really not sure yet. this is the real juggling act you're about to see. they had said that he was going to campaign on wednesdays and saturdays. we know there's

nothing on a schedule this wednesday, but there is a chance he's actually going to hold events around new york during the court days after he gets out of fort possibly on those wednesday's, we know that is expected to travel on every saturday. now, at the end of all this, i do want to just note here because it's what we're all working towards. what are the possible penalties? if donald trump is convicted. so we're going to pull this up for you, maximum prison sentence if he is convicted on those 34 charges, four years for each count. but there is a 20 years sentencing cap for this type of felony. also, he could be sentenced to probation and the president cannot pardon himself in state crimes >> so just over we're all hear, donald trump is expected to make the most of this. and by what i mean by that is that he's going to stop with the cameras at every chance that he gets, he wants this to be a media spectacle. that is the way he is going to get on camera. we also expect that he's probably going to deliver press conferences nearly every day unclear on today, we're

told that that's going to be a de perhaps even just hours before decision, john. >> yeah. and that's why we're watching. we've got our cameras set up outside trump tower right now, watching to see if he walks out, watching to see if he says something. kristen holmes down to the courthouse. this is an unprecedented de great to have you there. thank you very very much, kate. >> i'm going to keep a close eye on all of the live pictures for you joining us right now is former manhattan prosecutors, jeremy's land is good to have you back with it. we'll talk about this part of the process. i i'm fascinated by jury selection when it comes to the first and the unprecedented nature of just all of this, how long do you think this takes? >> it's not measured in hours or days, it's measured in a week two weeks is certainly plausible. this is not an easy process. a misdemeanor case could take hours, sometimes even a couple of days, a lower-level felony that's not too complicated, can take days unequivocally with everything that's at stake far, far longer. what's the >> approach or strategy that you think prosecutors should have as they begin this process

today when it comes to the jury, both parties wanted that out. anyone who has bias, anyone who has an agenda, especially someone who might be hidden in that crowd to get into that jury to set what they want to see happen. so i think that's critical and obviously donald trump wants to do that because he doesn't want someone who's going to predetermined his guilt. at the same time, you have the prosecution that doesn't want to set something up for an appeal. if there are these bad jurors for lack of a better term so it's critical that they're going to engage them and it's not going to be dry in plane where it's just i have a question, what's your answer? i expect there to be some bad i can force you can really understand who was that juror, what might they say? what are their views? >> and i was actually seeing some interesting reporting on how much social media not and how donald trump will be reacting to the trial on a daily basis. but even in jury selection, how looking into the social media with publicly available from potential jurors could play a really big role here. >> yeah, absolutely. in smaller cases, you don't you don't see that it's pretty quick time looking through this. but in this matter, absolutely. because what if someone posting on social media they saying

that they have these hard feelings about the former president one way or another. so they're just happy go lucky people like you and i and regular folks. >> i don't know if you can't put me in a good luck i mean, you yes. >> absolutely. >> you don't know what that meant okay. so so the jury is seated >> things began and the jury will then begin to hear from witnesses. >> we know we've seen >> the list of potential witnesses in this case, including hope hicks, a longtime age donald trump, michael cohen, longtime former attorney for michael john trump donald trump and stormy daniels, among them who do you think is the most important of the witnesses? >> well, when you break it, the most important you have stormy daniels is going to give you sort of the back, back understanding of why this is all happening. why is it president even considering this, of course? the former president is going to deny that relationship. but it's relevant to his intent and what he wants to do at the same time, there is michael cohen, who is the person who, who's in the room figure really speaking literally speaking but he also has the most for the former president to attack because

he's, he's been convicted of a crime. he's lied and misrepresented. >> so those two people are critical. but at the same time is ample evidence. remember, stormy daniels didn't come out and say this happened at first, she was quiet about and denied it. just a lot of fodder here. >> do you do you think the prosecution would like to see donald trump take the stand apps so loopy. >> let me say that again. 100%. >> now he's going to play games and he's not going to say whether in fact you will maybe he says he does because we want to keep them off guard. >> he says he wants to within his legal team says he shouldn't. >> the man is so bombastic and so on. controllable that he could sink is on his own ship. i mean, you would learn of two cross-examine this former president and have him contradict himself, had them go on a tirade, alienate the jury. he's he's right for prosecution to be cross-examined. >> let's not get too far ahead of ourselves though. first, we're going to see donald trump leave trump tower downtown to lower manhattan. and then well, let's see what happens from there sunrises and the east.

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retaliation last, our national security council spokesperson john kirby spoke to our kate baldwin about the president's response >> he's also been very clear, kate, that we don't want a war with iran. we don't seek to widen and broaden this conflict. we don't want to see things escalate as a matter of fact, what we want to do is see things de-escalate and defending israel the way we help due on saturday it should have that effect >> all right. joining us now is president of the eurasia group in bremmer. thank you so much for being here. you just heard john kirby thing we do not want to escalate this. so what could a response look like from israel? and do you see that going forward considering that the right flank of the party is really pushing for a major response >> sure. i mean, after 300 drones and missiles were launched against israel, you can imagine there are a lot of people inside israel, including in the war cabinet, that are saying, you can't just allow this to sit irrespective of how

successful israeli and allied defense was you have to take a military step, a military action against iran itself. now, i think if they decide to do that and certainly the biden administration is doing everything they can to restrain it it is going to be seen as less spectacular as smaller as against iranian military facilities. certainly we not against any civilians. and more likely than not against iranian military capabilities outside around, then actually on the territory. but again, there are differences between the way that bibi netanyahu and is far right government feels about an escalation here, especially because because of the potential to then drag the americans into a conflict with iran, something that they don't mind at all. and someone like benny gantz, who would like to be not in yahoo successor, has a much warmer and stronger relationship with the biden administration and

would be on the side of restraint, would be on the side i have not. you have a knee-jerk >> what i do want to ask you, if this looks like the beginning of a regional war, if there is a response here, iran said it was responding, it was retaliating for the death of seven people in syria due to an israeli attack there, including some of its commanders. and now you have this response from iran. and now his real responding back and forth. i mean, are we headed into is this a real clear view that we're headed into the beginning of a regional war i think we are in a regional war, but it's a proxy war right now. it's not award directly between iran and israel with the americans involved. and again, both iran and the united states want to prevent that from happening very strongly israel is divided. israel's political system is very divided there war cabinet is divided. so that is where this pivot right now is occurring. that's what it's all

dependent upon. >> but look, you'll >> remember when three american service men and women were killed in jordan, the united states waited for a week to respond, and that response was telegraphed >> clearly three the iraqi government, through the turkish government, to make sure the iranians knew what was coming. and they were able to prepare and get their people out. and that helped to ensure that we didn't immediately tip into the united states fighting iran and 150 $200 oil and all the other consequences, right? >> this is >> exactly what the iranians were trying to do over the weekend. they waited for a week responding to the israeli strikes in damascus on an iranian diplomatic building against an iranian military leader. they telegraphed what they were going to do to the rocky is to the turks in advance, who got the information to the united states? i mean, if they had wanted to cause huge damage to israel, they wouldn't have told people in advance. here's when

we're going to attack. here's how we're going to tack usu and the allies. make sure you get it and help these guys, right? i mean, so clearly, the iranians, were trying to limit the likelihood of having further escalation, but they also wanted to have some kind of spectacular show of force. and let's face it, it's hard to accomplish both of those things at the same time. and this is dangerous, it's very dangerous environment extremely dangerous environment. incredible when you think about the number of munitions that there was no major damage according to the israeli officials and no injuries or death. ian bremmer. thank you so much for talking that out with us on this really important issue in the cabinet is still meeting at this hour. we should note john all right, any moment now, donald trump, the first former president, ever faced criminal trial, is set to depart trump tower. i think i just saw one of his key political aides leaving just a moment ago, we are standing by to see if trump speaks ahead of jury selection today. park

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those jurors, quote, idiots and a holes cnn's josh campbell is with us now. so how will that impact what happens today, josh >> yeah, we'll see what the judge ultimately decides that his hearing taking place just a couple of hours in new mexico. this after hannah gutierrez reed was obviously convicted on a charge of involuntary manslaughter after halyna hutchins, who was the cinematographer on the film, the set of the movie, rust, was fatally shot. now, as you mentioned, prosecutors filed this motion last week asking for the full maximum sentence here, which would be 18 months in prison, as well as a $5,000 fine. and just to remind viewers we know that there was a death that occur heard here, but take a listen here to the closing arguments from prosecutors as they explained that although there was a death, hannah guttierez reed was not prosecuted based on one isolated incident this is not a case where hannah gutierrez made one mistake and

>> that one mistake was accidentally putting a live round into that gun. that's not what this case is. it's about this case is about constant never-ending safety failures that resulted in the death of a human being. and nearly killed another >> now reid's attorney had indicated that his client was being scapegoat it obviously, john, the jury saw it differently. we'll wait to see what the judge does this morning as she sentenced in. uh, >> judges also weighing a motion to dismiss when it comes to alec baldwin here that's right. you know, that case involving >> alec baldwin, which is set to go to trial this summer, has gotten very messy. it's not unusual to have prosecutors and defense attorneys engage in heated conversations, but it's gotten very personal. they're actually essentially lobbing insults at each other through court filings. i'll show you this motion that baldwin's attorney filed in march asking

for this case to be thrown out. they wrote that prosecutors publicly dragged baldwin through the cesspool created by their improprieties. this is an abuse of the system and an abuse of an innocent person whose rights have been trampled to the extreme prosecutors again, then responded, calling baldwin and his little legal team, calling him ignorant, calling them, arrogant, calling of liars. and one filing saying that to watch mr. baldwin's conduct on the set of rafat as to witness a man who was absolutely no control over his own emotions and absolutely no concern for how his conduct affects those around him. so really, really stunning words. they're from both sides, again, not unusual to see defendant let's council try to get a case dismissed. it is unusual to see the tone that we're seeing in some of these court filings, john. >> all right. josh campbell. thanks so much for being with us this morning. great to see you as always. the reports of multiple stabbings at an australian church. this one morning and this is as the entire country is still trying to come to terms with another rare mass casualty casualty event that we've been talking about at that sydney mall and

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coming up. that is a rea imrtant deadline ithis classified documents case case inlorida bause it's when donald trump'team is told by the judge, they must start askingor classifd records to be used in their case, so they're going to have to go doment by document scrupulously through those records with the judge to see if they can use them. and trump's team says, he just can't do it while he's in trial in new york they say the may 9 deadlines will require lengthy classified submissions and extensive time in a scif. so secured facility in florida to prepare and discuss those submissions, which is time president trump and his attorneys simply do not have during the trial. that is about to begin in new york. so they're asking for this upcoming deadline. that is very important to their case in the hush money case to be moved until three weekafter thend of the dock of the husmoney casen new york, don't want to do anything rely of substance in that florida case until well, after this case in

new york ends the justice department that's probably excusing tm in florida prosecuting trump and his two co-defendants. they say this is procrastation, and this must stop. he has had months for donald trump and his legal team to do this work. they have had all the documents they've needed for a long time. they knew these deadlines were coming. judge, don't let them continue to delay, but we'll have to see what judge aileen cannon in florida does at this time >> absolutely agree to sue kaelyn. thank you so much. john. all right. as we are standing by to watch donald trump leave trump tower with us now the governor of north dakota and former republican in presidential candidate, doug burgum, governor. thank you so much for being with us and the recent new york times, sienna poll, 58% of respondents said that they believe the new york criminal charges against donald trump, or at least somewhat serious. so how do you think voters should react? if trump is convicted of falsifying records to cover up a relationship with an adult film actress

>> all good morning, john i think when being out on the trail and being around america, talk to americans they see right through this, they understand that donald trump can't get a fair trial in new york. they know this is a sham trial. they know that former the fed is passed on this particular case. the former prosecutor passed on it. and in many ways, it's a very boring case. it's about a business filing and its being trying to so brought up to dramatic historic, unprecedented thing. but what's unprecedented, what's historic is the fact the lawfare that's going on where those two tier justice system and is trying to take something that's basically a boring business filing case and turn it into the trial of the century. and americans can see right through it, americans right now, they're concerned about inflation. well, the border can answer and about all that you've been in, but you weren't business for a long time. is falsifying records, allegedly boring as falsifying records, something that should be adored in the business sphere well, in the case of this where you've got a

low-level person that may have a notation on a particular invoice that's >> a business filing. if this is brought against anybody other than president trump, this would have been misdemeanor, but this is like alleging that someone was jaywalking, but every step step they take, we're going to make each one of those steps a felony because you're breaking out the individual enjoys. i'd been in business i've never seen anything like this before. have you ever seen does mega have you ever seen anyone charged with falsifying documents before >> well, this is a filing issue and this the kinds of filing issues happen all e time. that's cleric you've seen people ced with falsifying documents bere >> well, not what not with 34 feloni. i've never seen before because again, this is why this is why the d paed on. it's why the former prosecutor passed on it. teetprosecute at the time because donaldrumpas president, among other things they didn't think it was worth going forward with it at that time. i do understand what you're her saying, and i do understand that foer

presidt trump a denies he knew that the records were falsifie be he denies having a relationship with stormy daniels and this will be litigated in court, but falsifying documents is something that is prosecutor across the country in different places. what elevates this to a felony is, as you say, a somewhat novel legal theory, but that will be up to the jury to litigate that. hony candidates you say it doesn't bother you have, have you endorse candidates before who have been indicted >> well, john, i think this is up to the american people and again, the american peop understand that this is unprecedented attack when a candidate during a political ar, if this was a, said, if this was any other business person in america, this would not be a trial and it wouldn't be on the front page and it wouldn't be historic and unpriced doesn't it? because it would never been filed as a felony and so again, it takes something and y to me it into this is what the american people, they want to see. joe biden debati president trump on stage. they wt to see a

discussion right now when we've got something that historic and unprecedented that's a ran launching over 300 missiles at a country the size of new jersey. that is one of our most important allies. that's what they'd like to be talking about. but here we are because you and i are talking about this because you've got a prosecutor in new york, one person who's a politically motivated, an elected official democrat ran on attacking president trump, able to get a judge who's made political donations to joeiden to take the trial. and again, american people are smart part. they see these things well, again, i'm just quite coating the most recent poll that 5 say it's at lst sowhat serious and there goes, let's watch donald trump right w hang on one cond. governor donald trump is leaving ump tower right now. hes standingthe suv just waving their idoes not appear that he will speak as he heads down to be the fir former present o face crimina trl in thicase, ged with falsifying documents cover up a ld with an t

film actre governor, just to be clear, just so people kno ople are charged with falsifyi documents, as you say, sometim as a misdemeanor, sometimes it's felony in this case, it'a fferent subject he. north i wa dakota artion law bans abortion after six weeks. en for people who are victims of rape and incest, donald trump claims that he supports exceptions for rape, incest. what is he said you personally about the north dakota law >> we have not spoken about the north dakota law, but i know that president trump understands my position i was asked by cnn the first day that i was running for president, what my position was and i said then that this was an issue that should be left the state's i've said from the day one, 've said it all g that there should be no at's gog to pass it either

at the pls are read by the gislature and the state like north dakota, is not going to ever pass inalifornia in new york. one even pass in esota. so this is y we've got to have is issue has got toe settled by the citizens of those stas. and so i'm absote aligned with th president on no federayeah, he he es say it shou be left up. that's also does say he supports exceptions for rape, incest, and health of the mother, but he hasn't spoken to you about trying to push for those exemptions? in north dakota >> we have not spoken about that, but i support those exceptions myself and the a again, this is something that should be left to the states absolutely. all right. last, very last question you are on some lists as possible, running mate choices for donald trump here, you've been a successful businessman, you've amassed a pretty healthy fortune. how much of your own money would you be willing to spend to sell fund if you were donald trump's running that's not a factor in the desiont all. this is really about the

american people as a governor of atate that'pretty state at feeds the world. we fuel the world whicis about energy security and food security. we've also got too big military basis aboutational serity. and i can tell you is that governor right now? we are under assaulfrom the biden regulatory regime. we're pushing ck on over 30 different rulemaking efforts. and i know that most important thing i cado for my state, the most important thing i do do for the country is to have it get us turned around 180 different jury direction. there were joe biden's taking us because his policies of appeasement around the world placed like iran or a powering our enemies. they're hurting america and they're driving up inflation, they're affecting every single person in our country. and so i think it's very important that we have to go from policy standpoint, a completely different direction or the biden administration is taking us know it's gotta governor doug burgum. we do appreciate you being with us this morning. thank you very much. >> okay >> all right. so we saw donald trump leaving trump tower very soon. jury selection will begin in the new york criminal trial against donald trump. and he's

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ukraine in any of this legislation supporting israel, of course, ukraine aid haseen tied to israeln the senate legislation. let's get right to lauren fox, the speakeclearly thanks. any help to ukracould cost him his jo laura yeah, the speaker so far john has been will be in terms of a larger supplemental package. now, he has said that house republicans are preparing some kind of package for israel, but he has not said precisely what that package will look like, nor has he indicated whether or not it will include that at aid to ukraine. meanwhile, he is facing increasing pressure from democrats more than 90 democrats signing a letter with one republican representative, joe wilson of south carolina's saying that the speaker needs to act on this senate passed supplemental package that was $95 billion. that included good both aid for israel and ukraine. he's also getting that message from majority leader chuck schumer

>> the good news is that the supplemental that the security supplemental that passed the senate has not only what israel needs, but what ukraine needs as well. and if we can pass that this week it will really help the best way to help israel and to help ukraine is to pass the supplemental this week. and i've called on speaker johnson to do that, there was a consensus on the phone among all the parties that we had to help israel and help ukraine and yesterday, as schumer was indicating, their joe biden held a call with all of the four >> congressional leaders, including mike johnson to impress upon them the importance of getting an aid package out the door sooner, rather than later. the senate has another series of issues. it's going to have to deal with this week, including the fact that house republicans are expected to deliver their

articles of impeachment to the senate. that is going to take some floor time this week. they also have a deadlineo reauthorize the feral intelligence surveillance act. that is something th they have to do by friday. so the stest path that you hear from senate democrats is for the house to take up the senate passed supplemental package. >> laufox. thankou so much for beingith us this morning >> harry kanane? >> no, i will take it a second. we are moments away now from e start of jurselection the first-ev criminal trial of rmer presintonaltrump faces felony ges for legedly falsifyi up aex salnvolving to cove stormyanielsn the days before the016 election, harry enten is here to take a lo at where the polling stds around on this before we jump into this case, what ishe view of this case ast relates to t other indictments that donald trump faces. yh, let's >> put thicase in a ntext, right? view the chargeis very serious, jus% of voters

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reflective of manhattan's electric, because the fact is, we're talking aut 12 juro here, righ so you just need one one, ifactto throw t trial not have unanimous verdict cause u need a there's a 79% chance that there's at leastne, at least e trp suppter onhat trial. so he's going toave some represention there, even if it's not a lot of reprention as long as his jurys reflecve of manhattan's elecrate, 's besk this many times, but i nted your take on if convicted, whereo things stand and what do vors are the electorate? what do they, what do they say? >> the >> impact of a conviction would support? na trump's yeah. i think the rea there will be any trump's supporters to decide, you ow whati can't back theormer president if in fact these convicted.o here we go. trump bo voters, wou conviction in t hush-money when a case pact are 2024 te the vas majority, 62% say no difference, ju 10% say it's less likely to bacim. so yeah, could make som difference. but the fact is looking at tse dat en if ere's a conviction, it

probably will not make mh of a dent in trump's pport. >> that's interesting see where the view of it and perception of it stas as about to gethis l ster get underway very soon. thank you, harris. thank you, sir. >> all right. joining me out to discs all of this veteran jury consultant and founder of the case subgroup lesly ellis. thank you so much leslie, for being here. can you just give me a sense how difficult might it be? to select a jury in this historic case >> we will certainly be difficult. it will be more difficult than your average run of the mill case. i think the trick is going to be how much leeway the judge gives counsel to ask questions. invalid year injuries, selection after the jurors go through the questionnaire to really dig into those opinions and experiences that the jurors disclose while they're answering those questions in the questionnaire how large of a jewelry pull are we looking at it and is the size of this jury pool unusual compared to others >> it's a very large >> jury pool and it's very

unusual. so we're talking about hundreds of jurors a day, 100 at a time. in your average case, you're you're bringing in anywhere from 40 to 60 jurors. so this is very unusual. but again, i think given the issues in the case, given the publicity that the case has gotten particularly from the defendant, a large jury pool is going to be necessary in order to find 18 people who say they can be impartial and who the judge and cancel on both sides really do believe can be impartial yeah. it's important to note that it's not that they know what's going on in a trial that they know who donald trump is, that they have some sense. it's what they say they can be impartial in the case. did you got to look at the jury questionnaire? never. >> did anything >> stand out to you. and does it seem unusual because in some cases that i've covered the jury questionnaire is already filled out. the attorneys have all of that. they've got all of the information, but that's didn't happen in this case either. what stood out to you that's correct. it's some

jurors in some cases, do you get them in advance here that there'll be hearing the answers in real time from the jurors. i think on one hand, the questionnaire was very thorough and we'll give counsel a lot of information and meet to follow up on in their follow-up questions. on the other hand, one flaw that's very common is there are a series of questions that ask jurors to report whether they think they can be fair and impartial. and that's a difficult ask of people, particularly when they're first asked, do you have an experience? do you have an opinion? and then it jumps straight to do you think you can be fair and impartial and that's where i think counsel follow up is going to be really important to dig into that territory in-between to help understand whether jurors really can't be fair and impartial. they they'll say yes if they think they can be and they'll truly believe they can be people want to be fair. the question is, based on those experiences and attitudes, can they, can they actually be fair and will the follow up that

they're allowed to do, to dig into that territory between what's in the questionnaire helps them believe that these folks can be fair. and as you said, in this particular case, i'm curious what what role attorneys for the prosecution will the the prosecuting attorneys be looking for in potential jurors in this case >> sure. i think the obvious thing is luhby looking well, first of all, it's important to know that what they're really doing is trying to identify bias and partiality to strike, right? so counsel are not looking for their best jurors. they're looking for their worst jurors >> and so i think what >> the prosecutors will be looking for are on the first anybody who expressed this is some strong pro former president trump bias and opinions. but i think another thing they could be on the lookout for is a sense that prosecutors overreach that police are aggressive, that the law enforcement system isn't fair in general, given some of the arguments that they've been making in the press i just wanted to note that we are

watching motorcade, donald trump's medicaid headed towards a lower manhattan and to court. i lastly, want to ask you what 500 jurors in the jury pool, hundred people a day. how long might this take two actually seat a jury >> it will take several days whether it goes beyond a week, i think is to be seen and will depend on. again, what the judge does. the judge has already said that he'll let anybody go without further further follow-up if they say they're impartial, that might read out a big chunk of people but it will certainly take several days possibly in next week. >> all right. lesly off. thank you so much. we are watching the motorcade of donald trump arriving right now to the court. you see all of those trucks. this is an unprecedented moment in our history. the first time ever that a former president has faced criminal charges. the trial begins today, it happening just in the next few minutes. a jury selection will