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>> south without >> today >> welcome back to our special coverage of donald trump's manhattan hush money trial. it is the first criminal trial el of a former president i'm erin burnett outside the courthouse in new york and wolf blitzer, of course is with me from our nation's capital today. so far the judge i just heard heated arguments over evidence and trump's social media posts as the former president was seated with his defense attorneys, he's been in the room all morning. trump facing 34 felony counts of falsifying business records stemming from payments that were made to adult film star stormy daniels payments allegedly made to stop her from speaking publicly about their alleged affair prosecutors say the six-figure sum was part of an illegal scheme to hide damaging information from voters in 2016, it is the motive and that reason that is at the heart of this case trump
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leads not guilty. and in moments, courts will, the court will reconvene. there's been a lunch break. jury selection still on the agenda. are reporters have been in the room and have been covering all angles of this here in manhattan. and kara scannell was in that courtroom all morning. so qarrah what was it like? tell us >> donald trump was in the courtroom today for what ended up being a lot back-and-forth between the attorneys and not yet the start of jury selection, but trump was there. he was paying close attention to what was happening. at times, i saw him pass a note okay. to his attorney who received it, looked at him and nodded. there was a lot of engagement there. he also was reacting, but in a quieter way than what we see from trump. other for times you get see his facial expressions. who's biting his lower lip though he didn't speak audibly or make any kind of grand gestures inside the courtroom. >> this >> is the first day of this trial and trump is there. he intends to be here for every day of the trial. and what was very interesting is that we learned that trump wants to go
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up to every sidebar if the judge has a one-on-one discussion with the client, that is something that defendants usually almost always wait, that their attorneys go up and the prosecutor she goes up. but trump's lawyers saying he wants to go in the one-on-ones, the close proximity with the jurors, the perspective jurors, as they are asked more intimate quest's gins that the judge finds that they don't have to express an open court says a significant kind of unusual development, aaron qarrah, i know obviously, i don't know how loud it is going out. there were both hearing these sirens as we're outside the courthouse here in lower manhattan, when you're talking about that, trump wanted to be a part of those sidebar conversation fins how unprecedented is that? >> and >> then i know you're out just here for a few moments. you're gonna be going back into the courtroom. what do you anticipate happening this afternoon? obviously, presuming he's he's obviously are still gonna be there. what happens then >> so now we will begin the
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actual process of jury selection as we come back into the courtroom, they will bring in about 100 injured jurors at a time and ask them questions. so the judge decided today that he would do what trump had asked for. that is to ask the jury if they had any reason the perspective jurors have had any reason that they couldn't serve in this case. they had a pre-planned trip if they had a religious reason, and then also separately asked anyone in the pool if they thought that they could not be fair and impartial, those jurors would be excused if they say that's the case, then they'll begin the process of going through that 42 questionnaire, posing the questions to the jurors. now there are some instances where if the judge has a follow-up question are one of the attorneys do and they decide not to handle that in the room in front of everyone else. sometimes that's because they don't want the jury to say something that could influence the thoughts of other jurors. they will then go you a sidebar and discuss that. or in the case, in this case, possibly into a roving room that's a room off to the side, just given that particulars of trump. now saying that he he wants to go up to all of these sidebar, so he'll be in very close proximity to these
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potential jurors are as they are asked, follow-up questions to dive more into whether they can and be fair and impartial in this case. and you know, because the secret service's here because trump is the front runner, the presumptive nominee. they have the extra security precautions that will make this a little more comfortable. trump's lawyer saying he wants to participate in this way. i have covered about two dozen trials. i can't remember one time the defendant opted to go up to the defense bar as or excuse me? so the bench as the judge and the attorneys are asking questions of the potential juror. so this is really remarkable to me that he is choosing to do that and he will be eye-to-eye with these potential soldiers in close proximity as they answer questions, aaron >> really incredible to watch history is being made in so many ways. karen thank you. and care. of course. i know you're going back in the courtroom when she comes out later this afternoon, if you've seen those jurors, where we're gonna be joined by her every moment we can. phil mattingly, paula reid are with me me >> all right. so what do you make of that? the going up to
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the sidebar it part of every single sidebar, kara saying she's never seen it happen before face-to-face. with the jurors. i mean, it is a pretty incredible statement made by the former president. it >> is a statement, it's a statement that suggests he's involved. the stakes are high here, right? this is not only the first criminal and we'll trial the former president. he faces the possibility of jail time if he is convicted. so his legal team would likely tell you this shows that he's invested, he understands that this is serious. now, as a recovering lawyer, i can tell you he might go to a couple of these sidebars and add just getting i think i'm going to stay at the table, but i think that's the statement they're trying to make. >> how much of tracks with everything we've seen with him in all of his legal issues. and there are quite a few over the course of the last several months at the same time, he's been campaigning at the same time he's the republican nominee. his involvement and his the intensity with which he is trying to thrust his involvement on the center stage has been a focal point, not just of his legal strategy and his lawyer here's his they've sought to delay his have sought
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to battle every little piece of every single proceeding, but also it's critical for what he's trying to portray on the campaign trail as well. he is not only involved, but this is very much about him. this is his fight. and that fight is central to not just what he did in the republican primary, which was steamroll everybody that he ran against. but also as he heads in so this general election interesting doing you having spent so much time with him that he is opting to be in a position and i know as paul said, maybe after you go up a few times, the cyber you say, hey >> enough for that, okay? >> but in the >> meantime, the proximity that, that gives him to the jurors, that he is. and by sitting in there and watching every single every single juror be selected, right? that he wants that face-to-face. he wants that eye contact >> and it tracks with not just the legal issues has been done with the last year plus, but his entire career, right >> he sends me messages to people. he makes clear that he's there and it's not necessarily an explicit show of intimidation are trying to shape the proceedings. but if you're implicitly take it that way, he is maybe not gonna be that said about the fact of the matter. and i think that's a
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recognition when you think about who's going to be testifying in this trial, who the key players are, and you might have to go back to season one of the trump show. i think we're in season eight or 15 at this point in time to remember a lot of these people who are in the orbit who are critical players in trump's orbit before he became president united states. all of whom had stories to tell about how he would operate behind the scenes to get messages across to make sure people knew what he wanted, how he wanted it may not have been explicit, but it was there. i think there's at least some element of that. and what we're seeing so far as it, because you are a lawyer and as addition to covering this in those sidebar conversations, tell us about what what happens in those you how frequent are they? what would be the he what would be the nature of them even at this point in the process, what kara is witnessing happening right now, and how would the lawyers on the team be responding to the fact that their client that defendant wants to be standing up there in those conversations. >> he's the client from hell, right? he's a pain in the next i'm sure that his lawyers would prefer that he not be there, so that they will be free to make the legal arguments they need to to make and not necessarily be
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performing for an audience of one, but usually the sidebar conversations are issues that they want to resolve outside the presence of the jury or in this case today? potential jurors. so these are issues that are sensitive and may have to deal with some evidence that's being brought up. an objection that is made. and i'm told from my sources that we can it's back throughout this case, there will likely be a lot of objections, a lot of sidebars because the defense is they are completely focused on preserving every possible issue for appeal. >> right. so every single one. so just to imagine him going up there every time there's precedent and moment. >> all right. of course, we're here this afternoon as right now, they're finishing up this lunch sprayc wolf and heading back into the courtroom where the former president will be and part of those sidebars wall >> history is unfolding as we're watching it all unfolded thank you very, very much. we've got an excellent panel of our analysts, legal and political, who are with me here in washington and laura coates, your chief legal analyst. what there are some 500 potential
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jurors who are about to be questioned an interview. they got to narrow it down to 12 jurors, and with six alternate jurors. >> right. how do they do that >> with difficulty, by the way, i mean, to do so, remember the alternate won't know they're actually alternately want to make sure it's kept up to them, not to know that because they won't pay attention, they won't believe in the same persuasion, in the same way, but you're gonna have to figure out how you're going to whittle it down. the juror questionnaire is one start. now, many of these questions are pretty routine. but the ones that are not include questions about whether you've attended rallies, somebody in your circle as well. your view on trump not whether you how you voted, that's not a part of it's not that precise, but it's more of a proxy line thing. also questions about where your media from really important insight into who you might be thinking bad who you are. my most important question i have tabulated here is, do you have any strong opinions or firmly held beliefs about whether a former president may be criminally charged in state court. not a question you see every day because who has had a former president actually be charged criminally, but also
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because it suggests they have a more nuanced perspective here today, they have to whittle it down. these numbers are going to do so by having the judge asked a great deal of questions. but if somebody were to self-selecting, so they're not able to be impartial. the judge here is not going to question that. they're going to allow that person to be released, which is not what happened when he oversaw the trump organization trial, but that time he said it was much too cumbersome to do so. he's changed his mind in this time. >> very important information we're watching it all on foot. elie honig, you're with us as well trump all of a sudden shows up at the sidebar conversations. he's in the courtroom right now. give us your sense his lawyers clearly are probably not very happy about it. >> it is a very unusual request, so people understand qarrah said she's never seen it in a couple of dozen trials. she covered same here. i've never seen a defendant standing there at the sidebar it's not necessarily improper because a defendant, donald trump, or anyone else does have a very broad constitutional right to participate in his own defense. now what happens though sidebars is the follow-up questioning to the
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questionnaire that laura was just talking about, the follow-up questioning asked by the lawyers and the judge and if i had to sort of put myself in trump's position street i imagine he's got a couple of objectives. one is phil mattingly was saying before to make his presence felt not necessarily in an improper way, but look, he's a powerful, charismatic, whether you love them or hate them, figure and the other is maybe to get a direct sense of the person. am i getting positive vibes? did the person give me a look? that maybe suggest to me that he or she is in my corner. so i think that's the strategy behind i do remain skeptical whether he's going to want to do it. it's grueling. you. it's a lot of standing for hours at a time. we'll say yeah, it's pretty extraordinary moment. indeed and this gag order that the judge imposed, the prosecutors are saying trump is already violated, but the judge has not made a final susan. >> he clearly has the gag order says you may not make public comments attacking likely witnesses in this case and just late last week, donald trump did just that. he called michael cohen and stormy daniels, quote sleaze bags. how
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does that not go right down the middle of the gag order and we said this morning before we started, he said, this is going to be a moment for the de. are they going to ask? to have that enforced and they have and now it's a big question for judging or sean. i don't know how he lets that go and still keeps any teeth and that gag order, by the way. >> well, if you think about the gag order, it's also to protect the jurors. i mean, you're going to have a former president standing beside them for follow-up questions. think about the intimidation factor of that just by virtue of him being in their presence also, somebody who has not been punished for making statements that would be either if they're intimidating or threatening or insulting. that's going to weigh on the minds of jurors who are going to say, do i really want to be a part of this trial or not? it might make decisions in their questioning based on that belief, those jurors, those potential jurors are problem pretty nervous right now. could they be? in danger? and as a result of what's going on as well, hopefully they won't be jeff zeleny, your political reporter what are some of the republicans who are watching all of this unfold? what are they telling you about how this
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is likely already impacted trump? because a lot of them are speaking to trump i mean, look in uncertain ways, this is something that people acknowledged the republicans from outside his campaign and inside his campaign this morning, i've been talking to you, so >> they do not know how this is going to resolve itself. and that's just not talking about the outcome of the case. they don't know the impact. it's going to have on the defendant who also happens to be the republican nominee. this is not your ordinary run-of-the-mill boring tax case. this is deeply personal deeply personal to the former president. so this could impact him in some ways >> and also we do >> not know that past is prologue here. what i mean by that is for the last year, every time donald trump is been in the courtroom, if it's in new york or atlanta or elsewhere, his base has rallied behind him were at a different point in a different moment. now, the general election campaign a larger audience is watching this. so the reality is, we should say up front, we do not know much about the politics of this. of course, there are politics of this
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it's essentially going to change the moment of the presidential campaign but we do not know the outcome of this. and there are so many intricacies interwoven development are people who are watching it with great interests because it all hinges on donald trump himself in such a personal way. yeah, it's such a sensitive moment in the campaign already as well. as you're watching it all the some folder rd cornish, i'm anxious to get your thoughts. on the biden campaign's announcement today that president biden is not planning to saying anything or get involved at all in trump's legal problems today. he's going to stay out of it. what do you make of that? well, that's what >> he's done so far with a lot of these cases. also, there's literally no incentive for him to make a comment about a case where already the defendant is accusing the white house of interference so i don't think there's any interests in the white house and playing into that argument. >> the >> other thing i wanted to add an ask laura is, when it comes to the jury pool, trump has always critical size location of courts because he'll say, i
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can't get a fair trial because of the jury, because of the judge. but in this case, you're talking about the most famous person in the world who, whose allegations against him have been reported add nausea i don't think there is a court in the country where you don't have a jury pool that hasn't heard something about this, remember their requirement is not that they have to be totally ignorant and be rip van winkle and wake up all of a sudden under a tree and say, oh wait, was there a trial again, which i we just described my actual fantasy >> right now for you, you can hear it but we're living right now. but the important question is really, it's not you have to be ignorant of all the details. you have to be impartial or be able to set aside your opinions according to the way texas have actually gone deal to make a decision now, that's a lot of intuition and gut checking if the graph someone's telling you the truth or not and somebody, this is a jury and a jury pool around the nation who they're going to be, some who just want 15 minutes of fame, who want to be in that room, for example, to say, oh, i want to figure out how this goes. >> being on a jury in a trump just this morning, i think the
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new york police were reporting a bomb threat to alvin bragg's home? i don't think there is going to be a jury that won't if you on this, you're affected for life, right? o.j. just passed a few weeks ago. those jurors i don't think ever escape the public limelight in a way. and that's something that could happen here. and i think in a way, we have to be thankful to the citizens who end up getting through this process because they're gonna give way more of themselves than a typical the gold trial. and having the president go up to sidebars so that he can kind of get a sense of who they are in an age when you know, his ability to use information as a tool and weapon against people is probably quite intimidating, or you, a lot of credit to those 500 potential jurors who are being questioned. >> we all moan about duty epiq. >> when i was a member of a jury and more debris county, maryland outside of washington, it was a drunk driving case. it was not. but. it was still exciting to be a member of that jury and you can only imagine
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being a member of a jury involving the president, former president of the united states, first time in american history that has happened. a former president sitting at a criminal trial all right, everybody stand we're continuing our special coverage much more coming up of this historic criminal trial of donald trump. and there's another big story we're following very clear mostly right now, the aftermath of the iranian attack on israel, debate over how israel might respond relied from jerusalem right after a quick break laura coates live tonight at 11 eastern on cnn >> it's pretty today >> look at the suns and then we days the same since
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>> to cnn, one israeli official tells cnn israel's war cabinet is weighing military and diplomatic options right now in response to iran's retaliatory attack over the weekend against israel president biden. just address the attack on camera. listen as you know, we ran launch. no, aerial attack against israel and we mounted unprecedented military effort to defend israel together with our partners. we defeated that attack, the united states is committed, is your security. we're committed to a cease that will bring the hostages home. and preventing conflict from spreading beyond what has already has are also committed to the security of our personnel and partners in the region, including arac cnn's international diplomatic editor, dick rober, in his joining us now, he's live in jerusalem. nick, first of all, what do we know about the israeli war cabinet meetings that have been going on today?
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>> yeah, we'll fit. they meant for almost three hours. they haven't announced the conclusion a fear. it appears to follow very much on the same tracks as yesterday where there was almost a five-hour meeting of the war cabinet and that is dead determined to act. it's not a question of if they will, they will. the question that's being discussed is when and how precisely what to do. and there is internal pressure within the war cabinet. it seems certainly we've heard it coming from some members saying that israel should act sooner rather than later. so there is a sense in the region at the moment of nervousness that israel could respond quickly. but we've heard from members of the war cabinet like benny gantz, late defense minister yoav gallant saying that they would like to build, support a coalition of support to try to isolate iran. so the question is, will it military response, which is
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what israel is wearing or will, or will it be a or will it be a diplomatic response? so that really seems to be the question at the moment. and when it comes to rat, when it comes for gaza at the moment, more aid did get into the north, but the possibility of a military operation in the near term in rather seems to be being put on hold. the focus really is on the response to iran. wolff. yeah, good point. nic robertson injuries islam for us. thank you very much. i want to bring in seeing and military analysts retired us air force colonel cedric leighton right now, kernel leighton, what do you think the potential options that israel might be weighing as it considers how it will respond to iran's unprecedented attack as we know at some point, israel will respond either militarily diplomatically. >> yeah, that's certainly true, wolf and there are a >> lot of different factors here. first, to quickly recall, there were 170 drones over 120 ballistic missiles and 30 cruise missiles that were fired at israel. so this is one of the things that the israelis
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have to consider. they will probably look at not only the distance that they have, it's about 1,000 miles from israel all the way to iran in terms of border to border. but one of the things that the israelis could look at is the possibility of aerial attacks against iran for example, they could go into areas where the iranians heavier bases, or naval installations so those are the kinds of things that they could do. wther they will do that onot. of course, depends on how how far they went to escalate thithe other thing about this is that there are so many different factors when it comes to these kinds of operations. and when you see operations like the iron dome here as it's trying to shoot down these missiles. the key element here is that israel will need to be prepared to do this kind of thing again, if they yep, attacking iran. so there were a lot of different aspects to this, but they really have a major effort here that they need to really conduct in order to protect their country, their territory, and their ability to maintain
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their military forces yeah, it what was really impressive was the fact that israel and its partners who helped them were able to shoot down to intercept what about 99% of the more than 300 munitions the drones the missiles, the rockets, everything else that the uranium is fired against israel. and they were not just coming from around, they were coming from iranian proxy forces as well. >> that's right. yeah. in fact, those those proxy forces really are deployed all throughout these areas. so when you're looking at saudi arabia that area doesn't have as many proxy forces, but they respond to the proxy forces that are coming out of yemen. the who ties. then you also have proxy forces in iraq and syria and some sleeper cells in jordan, as well as of course, has villa in lebanon so all of those forces are arrayed against israel and they're doing basically what iran wants them to do against the israeli state. >> i'm very quickly before i let you go occurred a latent because we were talking about this earlier, you and i both remember the first gulf war
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when the iraqis under saddam hussein started launching scott and missiles that israel and they were landing in israel outside of tel aviv and elsewhere. and then us administration appealed to israel and even sent over a top us official to ask these really don't respond, that will make the situation even worse. you are involved in all of that remind our viewers about that yeah absolutely will sue the scud forces at the time were based in western iraq and both in the first gulf war and in the second gulf war what the rockies >> did was they launched scud against israel in the first gulf war. there were over 40 different scourge that impact around 46 or so when they did that, when the when they did that, the key thing to remember where's the israelis stayed calm and let the united states handle it. the second gulf war, we conducted operations called scott hunting operations and eliminated the threat in the western desert >> interesting, cedric leighton. i remember those days very, very well and you do as
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well. thanks very much for your expertise. and to our viewers were also witnessing a truly historic trial. just be getting today in manhattan some 500 prospective jurors are waiting to be interviewed. by lawyers in the criminal case against the former president of united states, donald trump. you looking at live pictures from just outside that courthouse in new york city will have much more on that. when we come back >> every piece. of evidence tells a story >> how it really happened with jesse l. martin, sunday, april 20 years good nine on cnn for
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you are watching cnn special coverage of donald trump's criminal so trial, it is the first one in american history of a former us president. and trump has just re-entered the courtroom after the lunch break. attorneys are now back in working to select that jury and our person holmes joins me now in prison. >> i >> know obviously we understand trump has been very involved in court today. present for all of it >> and now now back in that courtroom again, how focus is he, how concerned is he about this trial from your sources >> everyone, i'm talking to these sources say that no matter what is involving donald trump, he wants to be a part of it, so it's not surprising to them that he is passing notes with his lawyers that he is engaged in this process, that he wants to have his appeal india nodes with his lawyers on the court making different facial expressions. for example. but when it comes to how concerned they are about this case well, looking at the actual punishments of this case, they don't believe it's
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like that he's going to get something jail time. they believe that it's like more likely he would get probation. they're not as worried about it in terms because of the actual criminality. however, we have to remember what is at the core of this case and it's incredibly embarrassing to the former president of time in his life that he really does not want to read live on cameras. a time that puts stress on his marriage with melania trump, the former first lady is the heart of this entire issue. is it alleged affair with a porn star? and then hush money payments to cover up, said alleged affair. again, this is incredibly embarrassing and potentially damaging to the former president ahead of that november for election >> yeah, absolutely. and as you point out, the personal plays a significant role in this as well it's so paula reid, you've been obviously covering every single detail of this from a look, we got a gorgeous day today. thank god, but you've sat you sat through some few a few of ic held age, shall we say? >> okay. but now they're going back in that courtroom. yeah. and, you're finding out some
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more details here. for example, this is going to last week, the jury selections weeks, but they're going to be going during passover, which raises a lot of questions for potential jurors. >> it does raise a lot of questions not only for potential jurors, but also for former president trump, because he is of course, trying to campaign while he is a criminal defendant here. we know we're going to get when this day is often earlier today, you heard a warning shot from the judge that if there are unnecessary delays, he will actually start holding court on wednesdays. but then they also talked about passover. and if you read the transcript from the last time this issue came up, the trunk defense team asked to have next monday and tuesday off so that at least one member of the team could observe passover. the judge appears to say, yeah shouldn't be an issue, but a short time ago when they were discussing this in court, he backtracked and said, no, we are going to have court in those days, but it'll get out at 2:00 p.m. now, the term the legal teams, obviously inside court, but i would expect that this might become a bigger issue because they could potentially argue that folks who are very zarubin potentially orthodox jewish
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members of the potential jury pool may not want to participate, right? on monday or tuesday while they're selecting a jury, if this is how it's going to go forward so i think this is an issue while it seems like scheduling, this could become something more significant. >> absolutely, it would seem right because they think, well, that was then prevent jurors who may be you know, more more likely to want to hear trump's side of this from, from joining the jury to begin with. >> so >> you it's interesting is we talked about and pause, i'm have been president every sidebar our conversation in the room every day, not only does this deviate from what he has done in the past, but it also shows maybe something you've got up the sourcing and the thoughts on this, but sure. >> if he's >> guilty here, he can spin it and say it's a witch hunt. he can do do that >> but it's still better >> to be exonerated. >> oh, no question about it >> or try and find a way to frame it as an exoneration even if it's not by the technical sense of the word. >> and i think what holly gets to the point that i think is bigger picture really important. you may be looking at today and saying the dring one on a lunch break and they
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haven't even actually started the selection process yet. what the has been going on over the course the last four or five hours, it's shaping everything that's been happening the back-and-forth between the judge and the defense team. the judge in the prosecution the president deciding that he wants to go up on sidebars keeping what lies ahead, knowing that every single day of this trial, kristen hit at the very, very personal nature of what's going to be happening. there's kind of a big picture narrative well, this trial is the least of the problem, least problematic of the four indictments. this is the i want to know what is the runt of the litter, if you will, they're legal questions there are i, actual, if he gets convicted those questions, what do would actually entail the reality is what his defense team is doing, what the former president has been doing on social media repeatedly. what he's apparently going to be trying to do it in the courtroom as well everything is driving towards trying to shape the perception of what happens in the weeks ahead. they know how embarrassing these issues are. they know how deeply personally while these issues are, they're trying to grab that narrative regardless of the outcome and sees it on the front end as something they're going to do throughout the next
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couple of weeks. >> one quick thing here. i've been part of jury selection multiple times, 25-year new yorker. so different courtrooms, different courts. >> but it is amazing to >> imagine just from the perspective of the jurors walking in, knowing that they're potentially part of this. yeah. often i will admit when i've walked in there, it's sort of are you kidding me? can we please not get selected? i can >> but but yet they are walking into the situation just regular people on this momentous day right now, right? they go to chinatown, have their lunch. there are certain rituals of new york during duty that new yorkers are aware of. and yet, this is an unprecedented moment for these jurors. >> it is to store, it's one of the key factors in this case, which is pretty much everyone in that bullet potential jurors will no former president trump. and we'll have an opinion about him. and that's why his lawyers believe they're going in at a disadvantage. they said, look, this jury pool is going to be skewed against our client and they believe that the system that is designed to weed out bias is not going to be sufficient. that's why they tried unsuccessfully to move
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the venue they're going to ask people if you can't be impartial to leave right in those four cause dismissals and then they're going to go through a smaller pot of people and ask them more detailed questions. to try to get a group of people who can listen to the facts of this case that people know at least a little about it and possibly make the right decision about this defense. >> and and people that all citizens hoped make, you know, make the right decision. they're part of history. and these are serious moments her for all of us. thank you. all of us, of course, still saying here and which more of our coverage? bridge of this historic trial ahead. >> and another >> story we're watching as well right now, israel deciding how it will respond to the barrage of missiles launched from iran we learning more details right now about the biden administration's response to the white house. that's right after this every weekday morning, cnn's five things has what you need to get going with your day. it's the five essential stories of the morning in five minutes or
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it today, go chu pretty litter.com. >> i'm lauren fox on capitol hill, and this is cnn welcome back to our special coverage. i'm wolf blitzer in washington the us secretary of state, antony blinken says the united states has spent at least 36 hours coordinating a diplomatic response. aiming to prevent a broader escalation following iran's attacks on israel. and president biden is making he had very clear the united states will not take part in any counter strikes against iran. i'm joined now by kurt volker. he's the former us ambassador to nato ambassador. thank you so much for joining us. what do you think the us is doing behind the scenes right now, give us a little sense well, i think they're looking at alternatives to military action to put some kind of pressure back on around. i think there are definitely talking with our allies in europe, but also allies in the middle east region,
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particularly the arab states. and they are trying to do so in order to reassure israel that there'll be a sufficient risk fonts to iran that would justify israel not taking more military action itself i have to say, i think that this is unclear whether this is going to succeed the issue i think in the middle east region is that iran has struck or israel directly from its own territory and would appear to be getting away with it if there's no further military response, and that creates perceptions in the middle east about lack of us support for israel are resolved about iranian strength in the region good point in addition to a potential military response, we're now tell the israeli war cabinet is also mulling various diplomatic options to >> further try to isolate around on the world stage what options might that include? >> well, it's gonna be very difficult because you have russia that is going to stand
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with iran. china will probably not take part in any diplomatic sanctions against iran either so it will be regional, perhaps you might get closer alignment between arab states and israel and european allies but that might be as bad as far as it goes. and there would probably be some effort to sanction around economically as a way of putting some counter pressure on them again, president biden has urged israel not to retaliate and says the us won't take part in any counter strikes against iran. what do you see? prime minister benjamin attacking you doing here? it's obviously a very, very sensitive, very, very sensitive, and potentially extremely dangerous situation. >> well, it's very difficult situation and taking options off the tables such as saying that, well, the us will not take part in any strikes against iran. that is actually giving the iranians more confidence and it is putting netanyahu in a very difficult
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position in the earlier segment, you were talking about the gulf war when we persuaded israel not to respond to scud missile attacks but that time the us was directly involved in military action on its own. and israel could have confidence in that this time we're telling israel not to respond and it's unclear what will be happening. and we are making clear that we will not be taking part in any military action. >> very quickly before i let you go a bachelor year, the former us ambassador to nato, israel is not a member of nato, but what what, what are the dado allies do as a group, if anything, in dealing with this crisis well, there's two aspects to this year. the first thing is that the us is going to be taking the lead in setting the tone, setting the policy and our european allies will want to be as supportive as possible. and it's noteworthy that france and the uk took part in the defense of israel. the other night alongside us forces but the other aspect of this is that
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nato is an article five security guarantee. and the idea is that if there's an attack on one, it's considered an attack on all, and there is meant to be a military response people assumed that the relationship with israel would be very much the same as if it were in nato, but just a bilateral commitment from the us. and having this now where there is an attack on israel and no direct military response in the taking military options off the table. i think there could be very worrying for some of our european allies why is facing russia? >> yeah, it's an important point, ambassador kurt volker. thanks so much for joining us. thanks for all your service as well. i will have much more coming up are special coverage of the criminal trial of donald trump has now begun in manhattan. what is the former president's? previous history? tell us about how this case they actually unfold. we'll discuss with the former trump lawyer. that's coming up next >> zyrtec allergy relief works
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that paula has been breaking, that trump has been present it says he's gonna be present every single one of the sides and bars that happens in the courtroom. we haven't seen him do that before, so what do you think it says that he's going to do that and as an attorney how does that make you feel >> well it's not something that i usually like for clients to do. you know, if if the client comes up with you at every single sidebar, whether it's two questions the juror during the jury selection, or whether it's to discuss some point of law with the judge i think that it is something that can be potentially disruptive, potentially have the judge in an off the record setting not be quite as open with the attorneys. and so it's not something that i would normally prefer for a client to do, but it is something i've seen clients do, particularly when they have concerns about their legal team or when they want to try to try to project an image so they are involved
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>> and obviously, you would, in this case, you think gets which one of those were both >> i think it's probably a combination of things. i think that he definitely once everybody to see that he's involved, i think he's learned that lesson from the jean carroll case so i think that's probably the primary motivator here >> so tim, i know that you have obviously argued in front of judge mershid what's your opinion of him >> so i liked judge merchan. i try the case in front of him several years ago, the world trade center base jumper in case i was another media case. and so he had to sit through jurors, half of whom had read all the news reports about the case and i found that outside the presence of the jury, was he a pro prosecution judge? absolutely. did he beat the hell out of me outside the presence of the jury absolutely. but once a jury came >> into the room, he it's very good at keeping it fair, not
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letting the jury know where he sat on the case and moreover, giving the attorneys leeway really try the case. the way that we wanted to ensure that the jury came to a fair and just verdict >> i want to bring paul in because i know tim paula has some new reporting about what's happening in the courtroom, right now. >> and >> what are you learning, paul? >> so we're learning that one of the last things are going to do before they bring in this pool of potential jurors they're going to have a hearing that would set the parameters of a possible cross-examination if trump testifies. now, i'm told from my sources this is still very much a possibility in this case. tim, of viewers still representing trump. what would you advise him about testifying in this case >> well, it's very risky to me for have your client testify. it's not a decision that i would ever make until after the prosecution breasts and you really have to see have they met their burden? do we need two because far too often having defendant testify is one
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of those unforced errors that if you're ahead, just let it be and because once the defendant take the stand the jury will look at that and they'll say, do i think that he lied to me about anything because if they think that the defendant lied to them about anything, no matter how minor they're going to be much more likely to convict and tim, to that point, who's on the jury is going to matter so much. >> what >> what can you take away from what we understand so far, right? >> obviously, we've got >> this 42 student questionnaire that some of the jurors are going to get when they kind of get through the first screening that the judge is talking to them individually and asking what unquote intimate questions, whatever that may specifically mean. what do you think about it >> i think that the process that judge merchan is putting in place, he really wants to try and avoid appellate issues i mean, we've had major trials that have been overturned on appeal based on improper jury selection issues. i mean, most recently the death penalty case
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and the boston marathon bomber was overturned because of that. so i think that that's really what he's trying to focus here on because we want to know as much as we can about each individual jurors for to make sure that you see 12 people into alternates that can really put aside any of their personal prejudices and listen to the facts and evidence and decide the case based solely leon, that is, i think that's really what he's going to try and bend over backwards to do >> all right. well, tim, thank you very much >> we all appreciate it. >> next hour, we have much more on this historic moment here in new york, outside the courtroom where i am with phil mattingly and paula reid stay with us so my, daughter tells us you're in television and only $40 a month month. >> unlike that last overpriced package >> happy. i can stream my favorite channels for less family has values. sling is value i have type two diabetes,
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>> world's news net >> welcome back to our special live coverage of donald trump's manhattan hush money trial. the first ever, the first-ever criminal trial of a former president of the united states. i'm wolf blitzer, here in washington. erin burnett is outside the courthouse in new york city the former president is facing 34 felony counts of falsifying business records to cover up payments made to adult film star stormy daniels before the 2016 presidential election, just moments ago, the judge just set another hearing date afteprosecors arguedhat trvioled the courts gag der for social media posts attacking various witnesses. aaron >> all right. welfare. so much happening moment by moment as jury selection continues,
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another big moment in court just now, the judge said that during jury selection, if either side wants to speak to an individual juror, they will clear out the courtroom of all the other jurors and then be able to have that conversation. so i want to bring in paula reid and phil mattingly, who are also here talking to their sources and breaking so many of these details. so paula, what are you learning about this? so if either side prosecutor defense wants to talk to potential juror, they say okay. and then all the other jurors leave the room. >> naturally judges proposing now we have a couple of steps before we get there. >> any >> moment now, the pool of potential jurors, the judges said is 96 possible jurors will enter the courtroom. first thing they're going to do is try to eliminate anyone who has cause to not be able to serve on this jury, that could mean you are just incapable of being impartial. you have such a disdain for former president trump could also mean you have a vacation scheduled next week, once they get read of that grew usually do not let that group. >> again as a >> former, that is not an excuse applies here in manhattan, but we'll you're saying this with experience
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many that i think i think that's sort of are you serious anyway? but yes, i >> that's what i'm told from one of the folks is doing doing it, they'll another word of those folks. and then with the folks that are left, they're going to draw approximately 20 of them at random. and those folks are going to go through the questions in that questionnaire. this >> is a >> wide array of questions, everything from where do you live to where do you get your news to how do you feel about former president trump? but it appears that what the judge is saying is that if either side wants to ask questions of a specific juror during that phase, that they're going to remove all the other potential jurors. now that is the judge says to help the jurors feel more comfortable to feel less intimidated. imagine how intimidating this is, right? you, the former president united states, you have a judge, you have a whole army of lawyers. >> it's credibly intimidating, especially if you were in front of you to 20 other possible jurors. so the judge said he's just trying to make the whole thing more comfortable for these potential members of this historic der, okay. so just to understand, paula, if you're one of those jurors and one
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side or the other, they want to have yeah, i have a conversation with you, so everyone clears out of the room and they had the conversation with you. you've already answered the 40 the two questions are no on the questionnaire. i mean, basically this conversation that they then have with each der maybe very personal and very specific. and a lot of questions that aren't even on the questionnaire. >> so as i understand it, though, the defense attorneys and the prosecutors and the judge all have a chance to ask this smaller group jurors follow-up questions, and it's likely that their responses to the questionnaire would be what prompt these questions if you put something unusual about where you get your news or something that's ambiguous about your feelings for trump. this is a place that again reason exactly, yeah, because they each have a certain allotted amount of time to ask these follow-up questions. now also say let's is going to take a long time. i'm not sure they're even going to be able to settle on jurors. and at the very end of course, both sides have ten preemptive challenges that they can use throughout this process. they don't use them all today. but at the end of today, they can use those if they need to that's the thing that i keep going back to
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thinking about this we've all been talking about our own personal experiences being on a jury pool or a potential jury pool >> the import >> of this moment for the future of the trial for both teams and this might seem technical procedural, arduous on some level, given how many steps there are involved in this process but the jury and who these 12 people are in their potential alternates will go a long way in deciding what happens in the weeks ahead, we're all focused on who's gonna testify, what may come out, what's it's going to do for the president's political ratings, how it will appear to swing voters in pennsylvania these jurors are going to decide what happens next. and if one juror decides to go in a different direction than the others, that changes the course of this case. this is an extremely important time, even if it seems a little bit lengthy on some level, right? right. and i apologize to go through the nuts and bolts of it. we understand that the jury selection process could take a couple of weeks, could take three weeks. yeah. >> so usually the way it works is every monday, you get a new pool are they allowed to pick from multiple pools or is everybody coming? i mean, how does this actually work on the
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technicals >> so each day approximately one day to get through that, approximately 100 potential jurors. now, i don't think they're gonna get through these 96 days, so that will likely go until tomorrow. and told again by a source familiar with the case that if lots aid by tomorrow at 11, they get through this 96, they might get another 100. so sort of a slate. and then they keep going. no court on wednesday until they seek 12 jurors and six alternates now, with no court on wednesday will be here next monday and tuesday. we didn't think we would even those passover. >> this this will likely take at least two weeks, 40 weeks, at least two weeks. an interesting that the present form president said, he intends to be there every day. >> there's going to take a day off and i think again, underscores we've talked about this repeatedly. they kinda collision of courthouse and campaign trail literally the theory of the case that this campaign, the trump campaign, has gotten behind and it's been successful for them up to this point. clearly, if you look at the republican primary, this is their reality. they can't walk away from it. so they decided to just double down and go all in on it. you're going to see the president or his schedule,
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how he operates his campaign operation, pluses legal operation. everything is intertwined right here, the row please, on wednesday nights, potentially on saturday as well. >> how's >> everything maps out going forward, his involvement in this trial is just as much part of his campaign as a legal strategy and pilots and now one other technical thing if you are curious about. so i'm just going to take two or three weeks possibly s3, say they pick one person today does that person know that they're picked? yes. i know right away. you >> find out, you know, i'm i'm i won or lost lottery >> ray that >> goes but again, both sides have ten were there called preemptive strikes? so once they see who's monday, per we're pool her 100 school, they have ten for the whole entire selection of wealth and they exercise them after each pool. so at the end of each 100, you can say, do i want to use three of my strikes here because you don't know how many exactly and the trump defense team feels. look, we each get ten, but if this is a a pool that skews anti-trump, that's not really fair. this
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is what they argue and why they wanted to change venue. they would tell you that will the prosecutors could use those ten to weed out the ten pro trump people. we have all these anti-trump people. so that's part of how they frame their argument about why they believe the process criminal cases, unanimous verdict. that means you only need one for a hung child fair to not come back statistically, even in manhattan, which is heavily democratic statistically, a group of 12 would include a trump so statistically if they're looking at trying to find somebody who might be pro-trump in these pools day after day, they should easily succeed. >> you would think, i think the efforts to change of venue shows some level of skepticism. there are at least some level of concern, but i think it underscores just and i keep i don't mean to sound like a broken record, but the important this process of how they use their ten strike opportunities, of how they view each of these pools. this is like an nfl gm trying to figure out before the draft how you're actually deciding who to pick, who not to pick, who to make sure you cast aside why you try and cast them aside, don't
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waste your opportunities if you think you're going to need them later, there there's a lot that goes into this and the stakes are enormous in terms of how they decide to deploy that strategy in the days and weeks ahead, think about the power of just a single juror, literally a single der, and that he said the greatest, greatest thing about this country when you think about it. >> all right, paula >> and fell staying with me and wolf. we're handing down to you there. >> thank you. i want to bring in our chief legal analyst, laura coates, and our senior legal analyst, elie honig, for some analysis of our own right now. so what do you make of this defense requests for trump to be part? every sidebar. >> i mean, just look at this and how it's going to work a practice speaking normally if you're in an actual courtroom, the defendant is going to return to my tablet here is going to have usually headphones on, right? and just that's going to be how they're going to actually tell you and listen to what's happening at the sidebar. but instead, if you can turn to it looks like instead of that, you're going to have this very limited area instead in front of this, judge, you see this. there's very limited area over here. i didn't get a good view of
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what's happening right now and in that very limited space, you're going to have multiple people. you're gonna have the defense counsel, donald trump, a potential juror as well, who will be saying they're a very, very crowded space and also thinking about this, you're going to have have a former president of the united states who's actually going to be not lording over a defendant or a juror, but certainly there to see every single expression you have and breathing down your neck, so to speak. then you have to think about the fact that for every time they want to ask questions, you've got to clear out a courtroom of people with dozens of potential jurors inside the logistics of it, this think about what it's like to get off of an airplane. all of a sudden, right. and he will have to take their luggage down or get up there trying to move around it it's not going to be a very easy process. and so in this instance, you're going to have the combination of their different people at the sidebar in front of a harsher, which is a device i'll use to say and sounds everyone in the courtroom having to be close enough to the actual microphone to then not have everyone here. your responses, and imagine the
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type of questions you have to ask. they're going to have the former president united states, sitting there while they ask, what are you feeling about how trump has been treated before? should a president be criminally charged? have you attended any rally? have you attended an anti trump rally? imagine the intimidation by presence and environment alone on those different questions. and so logistically speaking, it can be very difficult to figure out how you're going to get that all done. >> you it's interesting, elleithee, their 42 questions that the judge has approved that these potential jurors could be s, but things like people's voter register there are social media posts that that's all fair game, right? >> yeah. so the jury questionnaire is going to provide the lawyers with very, very valuable vital information, but also incomplete information to one thing that i assure you, the warriors are doing now, they have the names of the jurors. we will, but they do. and so they are allowed to go on social media pedia and look at these folks because think about how revealing someone's facebook page or instagram page can be about them. and so i
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guarantee you they're going through those now. and when we look at jury selection in total, it's important to know, it's much more than science, right? you're going to have the facts that the juror discloses. but as a lawyer, prosecutor, or defense lawyer, you are analyzing and assessing every thing about that juror. if they're holding a book or a magazine, or a newspaper, when they come in, you're trying to see what, what's what she reading. you're looking at the way they dressed, you're looking at their mannerisms. and again, this could be a reason why donald trump wants to be there in close proximity with the potential jurors it's interesting, laura judged russia and as you know, he's agreed to distinguish between jurors who are unable to serve in those who say they can't be fair, explain the significance of this. >> so you have these things called for cause trial because honestly, he says there is that you have indicated to us you cannot be impartial for whatever reason now, in a prior her trial, he asked each individual juror who made that self proclamation about why they felt that was the case probably to try to understand whether they actually could be persuaded to sell you act tell
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the truth. there have been partial here. he says, it's just not logistically possible to do so, but he wills distinguish them because of the appellate rights. >> the >> trump team will want to to be able to suggest that there was an overwhelming jury pool that was not able to get a sufficient number of people sort of the bottom of the barrel in terms of impartiality. and then they were left with his numbers. why does difficult to actually improve though, is, look, you've got not just the luck of the draw, you've got a body of people who are supposed to be the piers of a defendant then in this case, obviously it's hard to find a peer and former president united saved obama and bush and clinton but it's not the requirement here. it's just are you able to be impartial and put aside your opinions in order to actually follow the presentation of evidence and the instructions they wanted to sync wish to show that look here, where's the money? will you have available to you? here's who you chose the peremptory challenges though, and strikes were actually undermine an appellate arguments and they didn't have enough ability to do that. >> interesting, you know, what qualities are the defense and the prosecution for that matte
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looking for in a potential juror. >>o first of all, you look at the law books, they say all that you wt isomeone who can beair d call it down the mile. bulet's be real here. this is a at all want soone who's with you and agaithe other de. an let's also rememr thiss only a subtraction game. you have no poweasn attorney to put someone on the jury. you can't sai love that juror. she's otected cheesen. a you can do is eliminate d hope thether sayyed do n what i think the nightmare scenario is. both sides are watching four the da's office is absutellooking for a stealtump supporter somedy who not so stealthy, maybe let'say it says they're a memr of the nra, watches fox news, you're going to i guarantee you anyone who meets that profile will be circled and eliminated. by the de, on trump's side, you are going to have to deal just mathematically with a lot of people who are not trump's political supporters, but say, i could put that aside and still rule fairly in this case. and then the question that trump's lawyers are gonna have to ask themselves, or do we believe that person and there's no magic to that, you have to trust your instinct on
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that one. >> you remember this, this system is also so i'm trial every time there's a high-profile case, right? >> the >> idea that do i trust that this is the type of case it should be brought? that's one of the questions do i trust that this da is somebody who should have brought it and do i trust that this is the scenario to actually have it that's 20 bacon's the case of any jurors mindset. i think it's possible to get an impartial jury in this case, even though now there had been political reasons, he look at to say the voting practices different jurors at the end of the day the prosecution has to carry their burden. if they do not, you you are going to be punished for as a prosecutor, if you think that having the memory of the access hollywood tape is going to be enough or someone's views on where we house is enough, you are sorely mistaken. you've got to prove that there are 34 counts of falsified business records. if you don't do that, then there would be a deserved acquittal, whether you think that's appropriate or not, do they look at education if someone's highly educated as opposed to someone who dropped out of high school. sure. you're looking at education, you're looking at profession. i want to ask my
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supervisor mind when i was doing my first trial what are we looking? or as prosecutors like tamara, when we picked this jury and what he said to me is, as a prosecutor, we want people who are invested in society. we want people with jobs and homes and families, and children and good these overarching rules, there's always exceptions you have to take it one by one, but absolutely all this stuff in the beginning of the jury questionnaire maybe less dynamic. but what neighborhood you live in that's going to matter. i mean, think about manhattan. it's gonna be a big difference if someone lives on the upper west side or the lower east side all of that is going to come into play. and again, you have to take this massive if there's 42 questions, but a lot of them have three and four and five sub parts you have to take this massive information and try to digest it. >> and then >> it's a bit of a guessing game about who's who and who's going to lean where there are questions you don't have on here, for example, have you ever had an affair, right? >> i mean, i know it's >> thinking about you wouldn't have it on there, but that's part of the south. the idea of somebody who might have an interest in a case basedn th underlying facts yo're going to be alleging in some respect, they perform that might
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influence the way they think and see the defendant in an action like this. those are thin you cannot capture an a jury questionnaire and also don't forget it is showtime for the prosecution and the defense team. if you have a juror up there who clade is not like you for whatever reason or as you proceed them not to like you get any side i know i contact, et cetera. you're going to have maybe a difficult time trying to persuade them because you're in front of that jury, you have a witness on the stand, but you're the one in front of that jury. and if there is any indication they are not going to side with you you think about that as well. >> important points, and these are critically important moments right now as the fate of this decision so happens, who's going to be on this jury? we're watching it closely are laura elie. thank you very much. much more of our special coverage of the trial coming up. and another story we're also keeping a very close eye on right now. it's a sensitive moment. israel debating how to respond to the barrage fired by iran over the weekend and volley to quote exact price from tehran here in the united states, we're
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squadrons and significant other air force capacities. there's no evidence that iran meant this as solely a symbolic, symbolic operation. >> yeah, good point. israel and its partners, were able to repel almost all of those are rainy and munitions directed towards israel. what message do you think that sends to iran, at least moving forward? >> it was an extraordinary performance, but a military personnel from multiple countries at historic indeed. and it sends a rather embarrassing message to the iranian size, to the capabilities of their weaponry. but i think it also sends a message to the russians, the chinese and others as to what happens when you have a coalition of western allies with such a technology in such smooth cooperation. >> yeah, the air defense system was amazing. when you think about it, not just from the israelis, but from the us, the uk, some of the arab countries who were helping out as well, liters from the g7 norman,
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there now weighing new sanctions on iran, how effective can these diplomatic avenue is actually work as deterrence to iran iran is >> decision-making is generally impacted when you see multilateral diplomatic and economic isolation, if there are sanctions, the sanctions must touch equities that are most importance to the supreme leader and the inner circle of ron's leadership. if this is just the additional sanctions on iran missile programs, personnel, weapons systems, and some mid-level officers. this will have no impact on her ron's decision-making. i should point out that although there are significant sanctions on iran oil program, it runs oil exports last month, touched a five-year high it is earned over 40 billion in oil revenue this year of in the last year because these sanctions aren't, are insignificantly executed. so it's not just sanctions, but the type of sanctions and how seriously will we take them? >> everybody huge chunk of that
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revenue accounts from china, right? >> that is correct. and just to clarify that $40 billion might be less because the chinese insist upon significant discounts for the oil that they purchased from iran. >> interesting president biden told prime minister netanyahu that the us would not participate in any offensive action against iran? how do you think that impacts this conflict >> well, >> it's, it's i don't think the israelis were surprised in that regard, but it's also important that israel understand the role of the united states in any day after that, iran understand the role in the day after iran may well respond to any israeli palliation. and he is us defense support for israel will be imptant ithat regd >> norman,eal thanks so much for joining us and thanks for all your service over the years, we appreciate it very much. >> you're welcome >> all right. and this justin to cnn, the armor from the film received the hannah guttierez reed has now been sentenced to
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today at four cnn's welcome back to our special coverage. of former president >> tmp's crinalri here new yk. i'm erin burnett oue that manttan courtroom ula re and phil maingly are with me paula, i know, you know, as we'veeen explaining to people, yokn, bit by bit today, what's been happening now, a significant moment, you lly have all the tential jurors of today through the gs, the magnetometers to be scanned, their hat that jury room. now, yeah, this is the moment >> we've been waiting for it, >> 96 potential jurors are now in that courtroom along with former president trump lawyers, prosecutors, and the judge, and the first thing they're going to do after they're sworn in, as they're going to see if anyone just it is not ableo serve on this ry for cause. now, cause can be anything from you don'speak or comprehend english sufficiently to you have some sort of immovable cannot be impartial becausyou
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feel so strongly either way about former president tru and the trp team, had a big wia few hours agprosecutors and the judge agreed that they would separateut how many people are gng to be dismissed for cause because th's a win for the trump al. team because they want that information to preserve it for appeal if he's coicted, that's going to be part of their appeal. >> all rig. so what doou i mean, we're finally here? no, so might say, okay, that's two 30 in the afternoon, but there were a lot of there were a lot of motions, lot of things that were happeng. but w you finallhave ts group of 96 an is a serious momentn you're in these, these rooms we know i remember the judge >> can you >>ou're her youworn a real gravity to the moment that they're in and the president before president is sitting in tharoom has been all day it is filledust take one step back. it is an incredible choice of the use of his time that he plans to be in there all like this all the way through it. i think it
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underscores a >>alculati that they have made very aprent at least omhe campan sayyed and the esident as well,ha th don't thk they have a choice some degreever the course of the last several months, we've seen him repeatedlyhoose to show up adring, shoot, choose to sw up and pceedings. the ablutely did not have to be at it lt egregious on some level, setimes. t it was to make a point. it was to contue to draw attention to somethg that had been very effective from a pitical perspective for months on end, this is dierent. he has to be here unless he gets a waiver stakes here are also nk the dramically dferent. and i think what's icult coming into this is when you've got 88 charges in four dfere inctments and other case particully coming from t spial counsel that i think i've gotten a lot more attention, felt like they're much higher stakes, felt like gravity, not just for the individual well, it's the former president, but also for the country, may be more signicanan people were kind of nocessarily remembering at this was the case. this now maybehe only case that wectually get hurt and the ramificatis of a convictionbut al the ramifitions of what's going
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to be diussed in the weeks ahd are both extremely personal, will rind people of the time that i think a lot of people, blacked out 2016 and that process. >> but also it will >> hava political impact. we don't know what that's going to bei ink a lot of people are drawg a lot of conclusions about what this will mean or n't mean for donald trump's politics for the general election, for republicans, for democrats, we have no idea and hothis plays out in the weeks ahead is going to bextremely important. and it's all going to tie back to the decisions that are made today about the jury, about what the defense in the prosecution decide with the 90 plus people they have today? e 23400 people thehave in the days ahead yeah. all right. well, they are now sworn in this group of 96 jurors. the initial group foselection for is jury wealth flly sworn in. and so now the questioning begins and this is a very significant moment. d this first day ofhe trial very significant indeed to aaron. thank you ry much. let's talk a little about thehe political fallout of this historic trial joining us now cnn ssudie cornish, the host of the assignment ast,nd
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cnn's chienational affairs correspondent, jeff zeny, audie. donald trump. he s to attend this trial so qution, the political question is, h is this going to impact his political caaigninif he's gotta be there monday, tuesday, no trial on wednesdaybut thsday and friday. always be able tmake theost of a camer and we certainly ha ouramas trained on this new york courthou. the othething i heard taed about eaier is how this affects the view from voters and e truth isi think a of this has to do with timing and when there might be key moments of testimony that are talked about, when there mig be a verdict. those will have an effect, i think on indendent and more importantly,ate deciding voters those are the kinds of things we can't know from is early on. >> yh, it's interest geoff, thitrial uld go on for few monthsight now, l's say it goes onntil june. that's getting clos and closer to vember. you think it's going to help or hurt trump eecially with h base?
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>> 'll see i mean, we don' know now, but we do know a couple of things. e, tall point about the voters it's not monolith here. we know that tru's base will stick with him, b we're in a different ment ithis campaign. it' a genel election, so many, many, many more people wilbe deciding this. and one thing we over the weekend in the new york times a sa college shed that 54% of independent believe that a conviction of some kind could change their opinion. they're watching this very carefully, but o not ow iat wilhappen with the verdict will bbut timing is one thing we do know. and you mentioned june. it's possible depending on how slow this jury selection goes. the are or fast, we'll see my guess is slow. it may not even start until next month. so we'll see, but the reality is donald trump has not been holding campaign rallies every day. in fact, he seldom seldom is holding campaign rallies. he is going to make the most of being in manhattan where there are more cameras than any other place in this country. and
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likely the world almost. he'll be doing campaign events around the proceedings. so we're not going to get a sense of like, no, donald trump, he'll be more front-and-center than ever before. but politically speaking, we do not know how this is going to impact things. the republicans i talked to keep mentioning one thing, how will this impact donald trump personally all of the testimony is it going to make him angry? i rate probably, yes. so we'll see as of now, the biden campaign is staying out of this but how voters digest all of this will, we don't know who that will benefit if anyone if he's convicted a convicted felon, let's see if that what the impact of that would be potentially. >> there's also some irony in the idea that what he's going to seek to do especially someone who is so famous in a trial is kind of shape the public narrative about how they think about the case itself. that's why there are these concerns about social media posts, about how he talks about the judge or the prosecutor,
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which actually ironically comes back to the case itself, which is fundamentally about here's allegations of his attempts to shape the public narrative ahead of the election. >> audie and you to listen to what trump said before entering the courthouse earlier today. listen to every legascholars >> his >> not never been brought >> anything like there is no case and they've said people that don't necessarily foow or le donald trump said, this is an outbreak. this case was brought what's your reaction? trump thinks about legal f how sclars. we don't neceily know what that means. and there are no citations there. i do think 's worth noting that for hile, even within the district attorney's office, they called this a kind of zombie case because they weren't quitsure whether or not they could or would bring it. so in a way, i'm sure peop can interpret him referring to that, b it' been the dark horse case. here we are having thisonversation
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because they found a legal way to talk about it >> is sort of boil down to hush money, but it's about more prosecutors are alleging st 2016. so we're going to learn much, much, much more. will it? change many minds? we'll see, but it's about more than that. i think again, the defendant being the republican nominee is something we've never seen so any attempts for us to look into our crystal balls are meaningless at this point. let's watch this play out day by day, but it is truly extraordinary the questions are enormous than dramas intense. we'll see what happens. thanks, guys very much. jeff zeleny, audie cornish, much more of our special coverage of this trial coming up. and we're also keeping a very close eye right now at the golden gate bridge in san francisco, protesters shut down the bridge there are reportedly angry over the conflict in gaza will stay on top of this and other major developing story stay with us every weekday morning. cnn's
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foremost, if you're talking about up, what i would call it kinetic response certainly israel could decide to cross into iranian strike research facilities, enrichment facilities, go after the oil fields. in some particular case, which would have a significant economic challenge to iran, but also would have an amazing downside in terms of the flow of oil impact a russia impacted china. those are some pretty significant efforts that they could take on >> i think >> asymmetrically, you know, they could go after iranian economic interests. but as india kate at earlier on your show, those economic interests would have to be very painful for the moonless, for the senior leadership in iran itself >> you could >> go after iranian naval capacity and certainly there could be attacks against the iranian proxies in lebanon, a full force attack into 11 and both ground and air and there could be efforts against what i call the other cats and dogs
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that exist within the region that they could go after. look what we're not talking about though we're not talking about hamas right now. >> interesting. in addition to a potential military response, general, the israeli working, but it is also we're told mulling various diplomatic options to further try to the isolate around the world stage, what options would that include >> well, that goes back to the economic piece wolffian, it would have to be a very coordinated and a very broad effort on the part of a coalition of nations that agree that what iran did and in arguably against the rules of law and attacked by one nation on another sovereign nation irrespective of the results a murder that's unsuccessful is still a murder. a murder attempt. it's just the sentencing that didn't have to be determined. so a number of nations could get on board and make it very painful for the iranians but let's be frank, this is a political year that's going to have a downside in any type of
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political campaign there is, if it, this becomes incredibly canary, and if the price of oil starts to get well beyond 100 bucks a barrel, the white house is now totally dismissing this notion, this idea that's been out there, that iran probably expected, that it's missile strike against israel would be thwarted. what does that say to you about a runs intentions with a strike? >> i think their intentions were very clear. this was a swarm not only of drones, very slow moving drones, low priced rounds, but also cruise missiles. this was an integrated attack that was, as you indicated thwarted as a result of israeli us. brent, all of those capabilities were stitched together so incredibly well but what it tells you is the ron's military probably is not as capable as everybody thinks it might be. but for iran to say it was not intended to be, that it was not intended did to achieve some damage on
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the ground and that they knew it might be thwarted. i think as a fairy tale, i think they actually thought it's more than just messaging. i think iran actually thought they do some damage. >> yeah, i'm sure they did hundreds of these rockets and missiles were we're going after various targets in israel and they assume there would be a normal from this damage and casualties as a result of that? i have no doubt about that. are major general spider marks. thanks very much for joining us. want to get back to erin. she's outside former president trump's trial in new york. aaron all right. >> well, if while we're back now with our special live coverage here outside the courthouse and right now in the courthouse, 96 jurors have been sworn in trump's hush money trial, and they are now going through the arduous process of the jury-selection and this is of course, a very historic moment. first criminal prosecution of a former us president. and as i said, that first group 96 jurors, we understand are in their formally sworn in, joining me now is former trump white house lawyer, james scholz and jim
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really appreciate your time. hi so here's the latest that we have from reporters who are in the room, sort of a pool report of what's happening. so as i said, we know the 96 jurors are there. we know they've been sworn in. so what is the room like as they're starting to go through this process? we understand that the jurors are really staring at the form for president and you can imagine right there jurors called manhattan, they show up in the form president, i'd states sitting in the room all day with you i mean, that's that's something. right. they're all gonna go home and talk about it. so there staring at him and he is sort of looking with a tight-lipped smirk is the description should right now to the best of your ability to take us inside what's going on here right now. what you think the stakes are for his legal team going through this first group of 96 jurors, they only have ten strikes during the entire jury selection some process to use >> look, this is a really important time for them, right? the prosecution already has a bit of an advantage here because it is in manhattan, right? >> and so it's
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>> more important than ever that in most cases to try to find a jury that where they're going to find fine folks that could potentially be on their sayyed that it could be favorable for them donald trump's gonna be able to be at sidebar. that's going to be something that's going to be compelling and he's gonna be able to look at these jurors in the face. apparently, he's gonna be very involved in this in the discussions in the decision-making process. so in a lot of this is instinct as well right there, gathering information. we don't have the names of these of the potential witnesses, but the but the lawyers do and they're doing their research and they're gonna they're gonna make their strikes a chord right? and to keep in mind, they only have ten strikes are getting what, 96 jurors or 100 jurors per pool, right. to go through. so you gotta be careful. you can't use them all at once. i mean, how do they go through that process? >> it's everything from doing research to paying attention to what people are reading when taken in, to paying attention to what is on their social media. there's a lot of things
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that will go into that. just the the questioning itself. so there's a lot that will go into kind of making the decision as to what jurors to strike. and you gotta be really careful about it, because in this instance, again, you're going to have, you're going to have a pool of jurors who it's aren't going to be particularly disposed of before donald trump >> and you know, we, we keep emphasizing jim, the reality of the situation and the incredible moment it is for everyone in that room that the former president i'd states is sitting there all day while the jurors are there, eye to eye contact. but that direct sort of relationship for lack of a better word, is going to be a crucial part of this trial. and i know phil mattingly is, but vote because on that as well >> i think what the question is that a bad try and figure out the dynamics how much legal team i was just going to ask you about how much is the legal team watching this process as they think through whether or not the former president should testify going forward this today matter. does what what
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they see from these potential jurors matter in that kind of strategy process >> look, i think every all of it it's going to matter, right? how he interacts, how they interact with him, how they feel, how the lawyers feel that the jurors are how much appeal there is from the jurors is to whether they're going to put him on the standard die. but i think at this, at this stage in the game, i think they're probably leaning towards putting them on the stand and what would you do? >> know him? >> you've worked with him. >> you think that's a gamble you take to put them on the stand >> we'll look, i think again, it back to think that, you know, in this particular case hearing from him is likely going to matter. i think you want to testify in this case. i think he's going to push his lawyers by in this case. and quite frankly the problem with putting donald trump on the stand is that you never know what donald trump's gonna say,
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whether he could say something has completely irrelevant to the case. he could say something could damages case just by just by making a flippant remark. so there is a huge danger of putting him on the stand, but i think he's going to be depressing to do it >> yeah. it's huge dangerous way of putting it, right, jim, thanks so much. i know we all appreciate talking to you and we've got much more on this historic day. in the southern tip of manhattan, jury-selection underway in the hush money case against donald trump. criminal trial, stay with us there's new ally in the fight against climate change. >> this is new car business blue carbon. we just need to predict nature will do the rest >> corbyn >> plus cnn filled sunday at nine, cracked windshield schedule would say flight and will come to you to fix it. this customer was enjoying her morning walk. we texted her when we were on our way and she could trackers and see exactly
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>> welcome back to cnn special coverage. the first day of donald trump's historic criminal trial in manhattan. i, wolf blitzer in washington erin burnett is outside e courthse in new york. this is a day without equal in american histor a former president of the united states, now a criminal defendant on trial. righnow, jury selection is underweit, hdredan hundreds of manhattan residents ll eventlly whittled down to 18 namely 12 jors d six alternates alternate jurors, erin, over to you >> yeah. well, i mean, it is amazing. so you're gonna have hundreds of people going through to actually get to that final small number. and this is wild, the center the heart of all of it, only one item on the agenda for the judge today. judge merchan also heard arguments about key evidence in the case and set date for hearing to determine whether ump haviolatedis gag order. that set for a week from paula reid are back with me and
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kua. okay. so what i'm on. in the room. and you are ng getting now a read of just sort of who's walking where who's looking at what, what are you hearing >> this is fascinating because now after several hours, this pool of 96 potential jurors, they are now in the room with former president trump. and as you would expect, there is at least some recognition on the part of these potential jurors that they are in the room with the most famous man in the world. now, our colleagues inside, because there are no cameras and sayyed report that when trump was introduced the defendant, he looked at the potential jurors and smirked. some of them are giggling, talking to one another. but the first question out of the gate from the judge after he introduced the case and the defendant is he said, quote, if you have an honest, legitimate, good faith reason believe you can not serve on this case or cannot be fair and impartial, please let me know. so this is going to be the first cut. if you will. is there some reason that you cannot serve? now, those can be logistical reasons
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or some limitation you have. it can also just be some reason you believe you can't be impartial and the trump team has asked them to separate out these two two issues because they want to preserve this on appeal. they want to be able to be like, look how many people we lost, just based on an inability to be impartial. so that's what's happening right now inside i mean, in an amazing are some of the hey, you know, someone, walks by, looks at the former president's smiles, not indicating bias or anything, just okay. whether him for brazil, united states is sitting here to women walk by, talking to each other interesting because often in these big rooms like this, people, it's new yorkers. they just start talking and all of a sudden they have a conversation. you know, i mean, but this is what's actually going on, like real people coming out of their day lives and sitting in this this room right now, i think to some degree you can become numb to the, this is unprecedented. this is historic. we've seen that so often over the course of the last 789 years that you don't necessarily grasp the import of a moment like this. can you imagine? >> being in new >> yorker who is summoned in as walking into room and just stare at the former president united states, the republican
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presumptive republican nominee to be the next president of the united states. and realize that this the first criminal trial, and you may be selected as one of 12 or an alternate on that jury. that's actually happening right now in this moment for a case that i think a lot of people didn't think was going to be the number one case are the biggest his threat to trump's either as personal freedom or his political prospects. this is happening, it's happening now, and these individuals will decide at least 12 of them and some alternates whether or not he his gets off or whether or not he is found guilty. >> and, you know, it's it's amazing. you're talking about the lawyers in this case. >> okay. they're used to jury selection. they should be if you're involved with this, you're used to, you get ten strikes and hundreds of people we'll come through. you should be very familiar with this process and this court in new york rules. and yet none of them have ever been in this situation before either. and it feels like that's something worth emphasizing, right? not as bad. i've been with the state this high trying to make a decision about when someone says they are fit to serve on this jury. is that actually a red flag in and of itself? i mean, how >> do you sort through? for
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that room. >> it's a great question, but yeah, we've never had a circumstance right? where the most famous menn arguably in the world is on criminal trial for a story that most people are somewhat aware of. >> it is challenge both for the prosecutors men also for the defense, and that's why this jury questionnaire. they're going to go through and answer these questions was designed the way it was. where do you get your news? so what are your thoughts on former president trump? do you have any sort of allegiance or participation in far-right? extremely ms groups, similar questions that we saw opposed to potential jurors and other civil cases that trump is fazed but the stakes now so much higher with the possibility that he could face jail time. now we're getting these live updates from our colleagues inside. >> they're going >> through these jurors one-by-one. they've raised their hand if they believe they can not serve or cannot be important partial. and the judge is going through getting their jury numbers. now it's unclear how many opted out in this first. >> that's all i want to know how many yeah. yeah. they try
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both sides as well. so it's going to take awhile maybe before we get that number, but that's what's happening. a moment ago inside, right? those questions >> were asked. all right. so on that, let's bring you to our conversation now, the jury consultant, alan turkheimer and allen, appreciate your time. so you heard what would paul just said? they've now just ask the question raise your hand. if you can't be parsed an impartial, or if you've another reason, hands have gone up. we don't yet know the number of hands that went up, but how significant is this particular moment in the room? >> it's it's a huge moment in the room. now, some jurors are going to come in but they're going to have extreme views. some might think, raise your hand and say, you know what donald trump is the only person that's keeping us safe from derange globalists. and then on the other end, more likely you'll have people that say, i can't stand him. he's a childish buffoon that's powerhouse every most people are gonna be in the middle of that, but those people are going to weed themselves out. and then it's a question of can the jurors who remain standing can they be fair and
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impartial? they have their own biases. they have their own beliefs, but how strong do they feel the way they feel? and it's also incumbent upon the lawyers to detect bias because some of the jurors or potential jurors might think mike can be fair by can be impartial and give the president or former president a fair shake, but maybe they really can't be. so there's going to be some real thorough analyses taking place into what makes the jurors take, what their attitudes are, what their experiences have been in order to decide whether or not they make it to the next stage of the process >> you know, it's lawyers will go through list of potential jurors in advance when they get names right. and they'll go through and try at a anticipate possible strikes. right. i mean, i know another in other venues that's the case. then you get in the room and now they're social media and you can look up the people, see what they're, what they've posted, et cetera. so some of this would be very clear. but in the sense where you only get ten strikes per side and you can have hundreds of people in these days after days filing through as a jury consultant
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how do you strategize? how to save your strikes? >> so each side has ten strikes. those are peremptory is where they don't have to give any reason at all. and now they can't systematically strike jurors based on race or gender, or any protected class, but those are given to each side. but before that happens, if a juror is so biased and it seems like that juror cannot be parents fair and impartial, then the wires can exercise a cause challenge. so it's going to be whittled down based on that before we even get to the ten strikes per side. so if a juror has such bias, the judge isn't going to take a strike away from either the sides. a judge then can act and say, all right, this jurors so bias one way or the other, probably had died trump given the venue but then the judge can say, i'm going to after our cause challenges made, i'm going to remove this juror from the pool so that when it gets closer to when the sides exercise or strikes, the pool is a little more narrowed down and fair find it
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>> allen, i want to bring paula reid and she's not only been covering this from the beginning, also a lawyer herself, but i know she has a question. >> so how long do you think this is going to take today's moving pretty they slowly in the future, we're going to have some hearings before jury selection even gets underway. how long given that these are 40 weeks do you expect it's going to take to seat this jury? >> i think it's going to take a good chunk of this week and probably into next week, a lot of it just depends on how efficient things are and how much of the bias gets revealed by the individual jurors. now, it's, it's actually to trump's benefit if jurors come in and they indicate that they have bias and then the removed from the pool on that can take some time. it can take a little longer. it just kinda depends, but the interesting thing is, and it might sound counterintuitive if jurors harbor bias against donald trump, they want to know that he's sitting in right there. they're ten, 15 feet away from him and they can speak their mind freely on new yorkers are known to do that. they can say whatever they want and then trump's team just has to say hey, thank you, i appreciate it. >> and have a good day
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>> that is a whole new level to this. it's quite fascinating. i wonder if they're aware that they can do that because you're right. i could see a lot of people saying, oh, my gosh, can you imagine? an unfettered environment to just say whatever you want the former president for, for any american, whether they like him or not. but in new york, wow. all right, alan, thanks so much. really appreciate that. >> and that layer to the onion. so we've got much more of our coverage of the trial coming up next, also, another story following closely this our israel delaying its planned ground invasion in rafah following the missile and drone attack from iran over the weekend, we're going to take you live to jerusalem after this quick break while here in the united states, we are seeing this on your screen protesters shutting down the golden gate bridge. they are reportedly angry over the conflict in gaza following these developing stories closely, stay with the lead with jake tapper today it on cnn >> i've struggled with generalized myasthenia gravis.
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>> diplomatic editor nic robertson is joining us live from jerusalem right now. nick is israel's war cabinet. do we have any sense that it's any closer to a decision? >> it's not clear war of what we do know is that there are some within the war cabinet that are pressing for a quick decision because they think it's important to strike back and iran quickly, there were those that are trying to win support for a broader international coalition that might choose a diplomatic track that would try to sell ensure iran sanction, iran prescribe the irgc as a terrorist organization. those sorts of diplomatic steps, but it does seem at the moment there is despite the fact that the discussions had been ongoing, we've had several sessions of the war cabinet that have been described as heated. there's agreement that something should sweden, there should be action. it's a question of when and precisely what it should be. it does seem to be edging closer there, wolff >> interested in nic robertson, we'll get back to you. thank
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you very, very much. i'm joined now by tau heinrich, a spokesperson for the israeli government, tal, thanks very much for joining us as you well, no, israel's war cabinet is trying to come up with a response to iran's attack. can you share any details about the military or diplomatic options being discussed? >> if thank you for having me on boof. >> we can't speculate and share too much >> information of course, on air, because the steps forward are still being considered right now, as we speak, we're weighing are a way of forward. >> israel will make its >> own considerations of course, just like any country would have had been attacked by more than 100 ballistic missiles fired directly from iran to its territory. we're speaking about more than 60 tonnes of explosives that were fired our way according to the idf spokesperson >> we're >> not going to allow this to become some sort of a new routine. something the kind of
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which we've had with gaza, were hamas targeted us rained missiles are in our communities for more than 16 years after october 7, we say no more and it's no secret that on october 7, our sense of security was very much shattered and we're working towards stored, so there's not going to be any compromise on the security of the israeli people not when it comes to hamas in gaza and not when it pertains to iran. >> and the >> prime minister articulated this concept by which we're acting, that we're not seeking wars, you know, that we're all, we always sought peace, we're seeking peace in the region and we have a record to prove that but if somebody is trying to hurt it if somebody is threatening to hurt us, we will hurt them >> it's interesting, towel just a little while ago, a top adviser to the iran revolutionary guard told the iranian state news that tehran will not show any restraint, quote, in the face of enemy aggression against its red lines well, that impact israel's calculation
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>> so >> of course, >> we don't want to see a full-fledged war >> as you >> know, maybe i should even say the islamic republic here and not iran. because as you know, we run israel, iran, and the united states back in the day, we used to have pretty much good relations. so we know what were the aggression came from after the iranian revolution. iran has been trying to hurt us a threatening to hurt us hurting us for many, many years of via their proxies, hamas, that was getting islamic jihad. the militia's, the hoodies, the militias in iraq okay. the militias in syria, because balah, we're not going to allow that to happen. as i said, there's not going to be any kind of compromising on our security and from biblical times to modern times, you've had these people trying to annihilate the jewish people like the ayatollah's are now calling to wipe us off the map >> the >> difference now wolf is that we're no longer stateless, were no longer defenseless >> and i guess >> some people out there don't like the fact that jews are
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able to defend themselves. we don't just die. >> but >> we're going to prevail. we're going to live, we cherish life, but we're dealing with death cults the, white house officials are telling us that they if president biden, they wouldn't say directly if >> president biden urged prime minister netanyahu and their phone conversation to exercise restraint in its response to iran, has the prime minister received any such message from the president of the united states? >> well, the messages between the president and the prime minister in a private conversation will remain private, but i can tell you that they definitely spoke about the fantastic of coordination. really phenomenal execution though we saw on over the weekend israel, it's regional partners and of course, with the help of our best friend, the united states were, were able to repel over 99% of the area of threats that
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came are away if it's the explosive drones, two ballistic missiles the cruise missiles. iran, we should remember, aimed to cause a lot of damage in in civilian lives and infrastructure damage. but thankfully, most of the missiles and drones weren't able to cross into our territory. there was minor damage to infrastructure. and as we're speaking, by the way, wolf, there is a 70 year-old muslim bedouin girl is an israeli or abet. she got hurt from severely android from the brushes still finding for her life, but it could have been a much more devastating results. but we were able not only to repel this attack, but also to send together an unequivocal, very important message to iran. don't mess with us, don't mess with the free world. we see you for what you are, your, the largest state sponsor of terrorism in the world. the biggest destabilized are out there dangerous, poor regime
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that cares more about annihilating a sovereign country than taking care of its own civilians tall heinrich, a spokesperson for the israeli government. thank you very much for joining us. >> thank you wolf. >> i'm coming up and astounding moment just moments ago in the courtroom, in the criminal hush money case against donald trump what happened when the digested group of 96 possible jurors, if they could be fair and impartial. that's next the 2024 so far nba play and tournament on before these teams make it to the playoffs, they got to win, to get it. for social so far, mba play and tournament begins tomorrow, which seven, 30 on tnt falls are the number one cause of injury to senior citizens a corn stair lifts has the solution just don't fall sit relax, ride with an acorn stair lift. the world's leader in
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and liebermann at the pentagon. >> and this cnn >> hello, i'm erin burnett. this is a cnn special live coverage event of donald trump's it's first criminal trial. so we have just gotten some new details moments ago. we've learned at least 50 people were released from today's jury pool when they were asked by the judge, could they be fairly impartial in this case half of them, half of the room of the more than the 96 jurors raise their hands, then there were scheduling conflicts, so more people said that they had scheduling conflicts and they are all dismissed now. so paula reid, phil mattingly are here. so paula explain exactly what this means. you start with 96. you get the question, can you be fair and impartial? oh, and what happened? >> they lost over half the potential jurors. and this is surprising because even in speaking with sources close to this case, they thought they might lose 40%, but they lost lost over half. and you heard earlier today the trump lawyers thought to have this particular
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issue separated out. they didn't want all of the people who just couldn't serve on the jury to be lumped in as one. they wanted to know how many people can be impartial that's something that they want to bring up on appeal. now they also lost another nine people for scheduling conflicts and other issues. so we're down to a third of the potential jury pool. and now a portion of that, they are going to have to go through this jury questionnaire and answer these questions in front of former president trump. and we have this update from inside as this process started, a young woman is ticking through all of these questions. where do you get your news? where do you live? where do you went through all 42 of their is 42 with each of those remaining jurors there's no they choose a subsection 18 to 20 of them and those folks go through this jury questionnaire and trump is reading along with her answers. >> with his own copy. i mean, can you imagine? agile that the pressure is incredible as and the fact that it's being done audibly so everyone left in the room can hear. so i say paula reid, good. are you a member of oath keepers and if you say yes, everyone in the room
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here's that. >> earlier today, the judge said he was going to remove the other jurors when these folks these potential jurors are question. but as we understand it, yes >> this is where's this is the judge. and this is former president trump. but as i said, one of the questions is about how you feel about him. >> i mean, think about that. >> it's been the thing that i keep getting going back so you and i not set a goal times, but like being a person in normal person who's got involved in any of this type of stuff, who gets the summons has to come in and this is where you end up. >> the one thing that i like i actually the question for you and your time about this three of the right, 50% of them saying that they can't be impartial that was under what the trump team was expected. >> news actually >> which i'm not actually surprised by that, why were they expecting it to be 40%? seven, 45% where they just guess they said, look, i said we're gonna lose 40%, but they lost, well over half. and what they're gonna do is they're going to preserve this issue on appeal. their concern is if trump is convicted, right? that is a concern. >> their strategies to >> appeal this and preserve every single issue and try to
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kill the case, death by 1,000 cuts. and one of their first cuts he's gonna be look, every time we had a pool of potential jurors, we lost over half of them because they couldn't be in partial. that's why we were pushing to move the venue. so that's the long game that they're playing here. and why that number so important. how does that work though? i would just as a quick follow here on out an appeal me if the whole point is people were honest and remove themselves. i mean, doesn't that kind of go go go against their argument yeah. >> thousand cuts, right? that's why every little issue because i think you turn back and be like, well, when would you rather they stay there? they couldn't be impartial, isn't that the counter to your point? yeah. but this is something that they fought for. they didn't want everyone lumped in. they wanted to know. okay. are these people who are going to be dismissed her cause? how many are because they just can't be fair. this has been something they thought four and no ty an interesting won't because more than half said because they couldn't be fair and impartial. and only nine said they had some sort of a conflict. so the vast majority i made it clear that it was because of their ability to actually judge the case will very interesting indeed aaron,
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thank you very much. i want to bring back jeff zeleny and audie cornish to continue this conversation or audie, reaction to more than half of the possible jurors be released in this first first round of questioning. >> well, i mean, lots of people want to get out of jury duty. i can imagine this one being not that appealing considering the effect it can have your, on your life in the long term. also interesting because in a way it mirrors the divisions in the country itself, right so i think it's a good thing because we want this process to move along a pace. and now i assume the lawyers can really have a real conversation with who's left there watching this very closely in the stakes are clearly enormous how do you think trump and his allies are reacting to what's going on right now. >> look, they're planning to use this trial coming out for however long it lasts for several different reasons. the first and foremost is fundraising. there's a whole fundraising appeal that is built-in every day, reacting to what is happening inside the
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courtroom to try and should drop his supporters, which we've seen him do with pretty good success over the last year. they're also trying to use this as yet, the biggest example yet but how the government is coming after him and as he is talked about on the campaign trail in your retribution if they aren't coming after me, they'll come after you, which of course is not true because it's very specific to him. but the point is they're going to try and use this trial and all the proceedings of it as a as a megaphone for them. but there are unexpected things that will happen on this. so every day he may not want to come out and talk about what happened inside there when stormy daniels is on this day in, for example. so they of course, will be trying to redirect in shaping the image of everything that happens. but what we don't know is how the public will react this it add to the trump exhaustion? possibly. does it add to the trump anger? does it add to his support perhaps all of those. so we're just going to have to sit and watch this
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unfold, but they they do plan to use these proceedings to every degree that they can. we >> do know that over the past year or so amidst all of these criminal charges being leveled against trump, it hasn't heard on my heort ocked the republican presidential nomination pretty quickly. >> you can absolutely mark on the calendar when he started rallying his republican supporters around him and it was when alvin bragg first charged him and he was going down from trump tower to this very courthouse. i was on the street. they're watchmen fifth avenue, and we didn't really know at that moment that he's going to galvanize the whole republican base. you could feel it in the months after. this is a different moment. it may be the same, it may not be the difference is the general election audience requires independent vors. th are an active participant ie process it's heren a republicanrimary campaig the puican base is the most important very interesting audie told that seral of the prpectivjurors were sitting there are staring at trump. i
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think in part because he's a celebrit how does that iact the situation while wean't know wt any of these little interactions means, but we do know fm trump's past behavior in the courtrooms that he's been in so far. he can be a volatile presence. he can he's very emotional throwing up his hand, scowling whispering, and then later on going outside of the courthouse to complain about even the staff. so you never know what's going on and i'm not in the courtroom, so i don't want the judge, but i do think that there is something to the fact that he wants to be there to look all these people in the face it sounds like some of them are ready to look back and they're looking staring at him. >> i mean, it's a jury of his peers >> citizens and americans. and there art toe part of they are that process process already, coish. thank youjeff ze. thanks to you, as well. just ahead the escalating conflict in the middle east as isra ways how respond to iran, president biden is trying diplomacy, fdingff attacks
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defense secretary under former president trump. he also serves on the board or as a strategic advisor for a handful of aerospace and defense related companies. secretary esper, thanks so much for joining us. as you know, conservative republicans have warned speaker johnson over including funding for ukraine in any aid bill that includes funding for israel. does that stance by hardliners put eight to both countries potentially at risk? >> yes. i think it does. i think i saw a statement coming out of the white house this afternoon that said they would not accept a standalone bill coming out of the house just for israel and they shouldn't, by the way, both israel and ukraine face the same. i'm sorry, both israel and ukraine face the same threat. they have a very aggressive nature paper who is attacking this democracy these respective democracies, and they need us support and us leadership is on the line. so i think we should support the funding. it should move quickly and i hope the house will pass a bill and they shouldn't go on
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recess at the end of this week without passing. ukraine supplemental let's see how that unfolds. the president, president biden is urged israel not to retaliate and says the us, we're not take part in any counter strikes against iran. israel endanger you think mr. secretary of further straining its relationship with the united states and possibly expanding its global isolation if it were to launch a military strike on iran. now well, first of all, i think president biden is mistaken on both points look, first of all urging israel to act with restraint at this point in time doesn't make any sense given the neighborhood that they live in a week-and-a-half ago, israel said very clearly to iran don't strike if you do strike israel proper, there'll be response. they have to follow through on that knopp by the same token president biden told the iranians, don't as well to me, that looks like a red line. and so for israel not to act
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now, that would undermine their credibility plus i might add, look for 20 plus years israel faced a constant threat from rockets from hamas in the south and rockets from hezbollah in the north every year in some years, well over 1,000 rockets attack and this led to israel going into either to fight. >> now, >> iran has changed the paradigm and they've acknowledged that they said it publicly. they've created a new normal that they're no longer afraid to strike israel. so now does israel have to deal not just with the southern front and northern front, but in eastern front. i think they need to hit back hard and look. the other thing that i think president biden has made a mistake on is taking the military option off the table? he did this with ukraine. i think it was a mistake. he did this with gaza. it was mistaken once again, he's taking us military options off the table before anything has happened. now, look, i think it may those circumstances we probably weren't and probably should have done anything. but just to take it off the table, i think
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undermines us credibility as well. in the region >> this is interesting. a top adviser to the uranian revolutionary guard-core tells iranian state news now that tehran will not show restraint if red lines are crossed, how could this impact israel's calculations? you think? >> well, we know that to be the case. we know there's gonna be a little bit of a for tat back and forth until, one or the side of the other reaches the breaking point. and i will suspect suspect it will be the iranians before the israelis. iran does not want this war. they can't afford this war economically. and of course they have a public that is very unhappy he with the regime. they can't tolerate too much here. but on the other hand, israel cannot allow this to stand or else they will face a new threat. and new invigorated, emboldened iran that will fill that. it can shoot missiles and rockets and drones and cruise missiles anytime it wants or anytime it seems to be losing the proxy war to iran throughout they'll shoot rockets and missiles at
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israel. that's a new normal that israel cannot tolerate, which is why i think they need to hit back fairly hard and show that they are serious and restore deterrence with iran former defense secretary, mark esper. thanks so much for joining us. we appreciate it >> thank you >> i'm coming up, donald trump making history today is the first former us president to go on trial for criminal, criminal charges. were following all the details we'll be right back >> every weekday morning, cnn's five things has what you need to get going with your day. it's the five essential stories of the morning in five minutes or less. >> cnn's five things with kate bolduan streaming weekdays exclusively on macs >> now, at t professionally installs google nest products. do all sudden your home is safe and smarter. >> we're gonna miss. >> you can check it on your home our miss system, you
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