kill someone you alone turned a safe weapon into a lethal weapon but for you, ms hutchins would be alive. a husband would have as partner and a little boy who his mother we're told guttierez reed cried at times throughout the hearing, but showed no emotion as the sentence was read and to our viewers, thanks very much for joining us. i'm wolf blitzer in washington. i'll be back here again 6:00 p.m. eastern in the situation room. be sure to join me for that. >> and >> the lead with jake tapper starts right now >> day on the new york hush money cover up case against donald trump is ramping up any minute the lead starts right now major rulings already is the first day of trial comes to a close. a playboy model is being allowed to testify that infamous access hollywood tape not allowed to the aired in court, plus a decision put off

on a potential gag order violation by donald trump will have all the moments as this rather salacious case, it gets going was one key name on the witness list. what former trump white house aide hope hicks, has already said on the record and what that might mean for her former bosses case. and israel's war cabinet meets again weighing how to strike back after iran's unprecedented direct attack. what cnn is hearing about the calculations they're making welcome to the lean. i'm jake tapper. we begin with our breaking news jury selection in former president donald trump's criminal trial in new york city is underway, but moments ago more than half of this first batch of prospective jurors were sent home packing. why? well, they said they could not be filled here or impartial. and just about 30 minutes, donald trump's first day in this trial will come to an end. but before jury selection even began, prosecutors were already asking judge juan merchan to find

donald trump. they were accusing him of violating his gag order with three social media posts he made about the case, including one at 9:12 eastern in this morning, possibly while actually inside court trump in one post referred to two key witnesses as sleaze bags. those were his former attorney, michael cohen, and his former alleged paramour, adult film star and directors stormy daniels. remember, donald trump is being charged with 34 counts of falsifying business records to cover for up the alleged role in a hush money scheme to buy daniels silence and that of another alleged mistress before the 2016 election. here's a stormy daniels herself described it in 2018 was it hush money to stay silent? >> yes >> all right. wow >> trump denied of course, knowing anything about it 30

>> he said he did not know anything about hush money payments to stormy daniels. but then in 2019 michael cohen testified before congress and he said something else. i am >> ashamed that i chose to take part in concealing mr. trump's elicit acts rather than listening to my own conscience >> mr. trump has pleaded not guilty. he is denying the affairs and as we wait for a jury to be seated and for the judge's ruling on that alleged gag order violation judge, roshan has been deciding what evidence and what testimony jurors will be allowed to hear cnn chief legal affairs correspondent paul reads outside the courtroom for us and paula. the jury selection process has begun an already about 50 people have been let go yeah, over 50 let go because they felt they could not be impartial in this case. and jake, that's a significant number because the trump's team and one to have that statistic, they didn't want

everyone who has dismissed in that first phase all be lumped in as one. they wanted that statistic to preserve issue horn appeal. i mean, they expect to eventually have to possibly appeal this case and they want to be able to point and say, look, we lost over half of the potential jurors because they could not be impartial. now, after that cut, then they lost about ten additional people for other reasons. and then they are taking a smaller group of potential jurors. and these folks have to go through this jury questionnaire questions like, where do you work? where do you get your news and how do you feel? about the former president? but take its remarkable because these people have to answer these questions in front of the former president's. imagine the pressure there, but that is the problem. process as it would be conducted for any other defendant. now, so far, they have not selected a single juror, but it's not even clear. they'll be able to do that today. they will continue this process starting with approximately 100 people and whittling them down. each day except for wednesday is on repeat until they select 12 jurors and six alternates.

>> so far. >> have there been any big wins for trump or for the prosecution >> and the biggest win for trump was getting that statistic stake about those who can't be impartial. but then before jury selection got underway, there were a lot of other motion sell a lot about evidence. these questions that the judge had to resolve dealers lose some win, some for both sides, for example, the prosecution. one and that judge merchan will not recuse himself from this case that we didn't expect that he would the trial trump team has been pushing for that. that issue is still pending before the court of appeals, but he declined to do that at the outset. the judge also ruled that karen mcdougal, who also received hush one for her alleged affair with former president trump ahead of the 2016 election. she can testify and also that evidence about other stories about trump's a that were amplified by the national enquirer can be included. now, those two things are significant because they

help the district attorney's argument that all of this the hush money payment stormy daniels at these other payments to other mistresses. and then stories that would be helpful to trump, but they were negative about his opponents that all of this was part of an effort to interfere in the 2016 election. but the trump team also had some wins, for example, the judge will not allow into the infamous access hollywood tape. you will not allow in portions of it the deposition from the e jean carroll's civil litigation where this tape was discussed and he also said that three accounts of sexual assault by former president trump that surfaced after the access hollywood tape >> those will >> also not be allowed in. so again, these are all pretty minor evidentiary issues, but someone's for the prosecution. some luck. office for the prosecution. same with the defense team. all right. paula reid, thanks so much. are cnn legal analysts are here. carry cordero and elie honig le do you think that they will be able the prosecutors and defense and the judge, will they be able to find an impartial jury? is there is it

possible? for donald trump to be tried by an impartial jury in manhattan. >> so the technical legal answer to that jake is yes >> the >> prosecutors were correct. first of all, to charge this case in manhattan, sometimes prosecutors engage in a little bit of forum shopping sometimes you have an option of multiple counties are multiple districts, and maybe you look for one that's more favorable here, manhattan was the right and probably only place to charge the case. and as we see now, we're going through this jury selection process, which is meant to weed out people who are unduly biased by the way, it is remarkable that more than half the people said right off the bat knowing one paragraph of information about this case, i can not be biased and walked out the door. that's gotta be a world's record. and i think it speaks to just how polarizing donald trump trump is. so that's the sort of, oraa scared people were scared people are right about being on a jury. i may not want no part of this, so that's the sort of technical legal answer willis qualify legally as a fair trial, fair jury yes. in all likelihood. but let's also be real about what we're talking about here. manhattan knights overwhelmingly disliked donald

trump politically and personally, he got 12 percent of the vote in 2020 and less than that in 2016. and just think about the converse. there's a county in oklahoma, woods county where the vote count was basically flip trump got 85% or so of the vote. there don't we think that the outcome might be substantially different if you were tried in woods county oklahoma, then in new york county in manhattan. so let's be real. it's a very tough jury pool for donald trump, but sometimes that's how it goes. >> carry the judge, judge merchan said in a written order, quote, the purpose of jury selection is not to determine whether a prospective juror does or does not like one of the parties unquote so this morning asked a jury consultant and attorney about this. take a listen to his response >> most jurors come into jury selection. they don't know the defendant on trial. this is completely different. everybody knows him. everybody has a view of him. and i think under new york law, that that has to be taken into account. >> what do you think >> well, on one hand, that's

correct. on the other hand, there are trials that take place in the united states of famous people. there's actors and television personalities and people who have been in the entertainment industry and former politicians. i mean, we do have people who are willing i'll known who go through the criminal justice served system. so i don't think it's totally out of bounds that a person who is well-known former president trump is obviously a unique person because he's a former president. and so that puts it in a whole nother category. >> what do you think? oh, >> well, the problem hello, for donald trump is just mathematically, there's going to be a huge number of jurors here who say, i'm inclined against him, but i can be fierce, i can be fair, your honor. and let me tell you something. when judge is looking at you and says, don't you think you can put aside your personal beliefs, your political beliefs, and follow my instructions, guy, where on the robe and rule on this case fairly 19, 80% of people are going yes. yeah. as i can do that, right. you had an example today that bill brennan gave you about his experience in the trump org trial and the problem

for trump's team has are people telling the truth when they said that, can they real? i tend to side with we're not us to build with the jury consultant. i think humans are humans and as much as we like to think of ourselves as unbiased, it's really, really hard when you get down to especially a case like this, where it's it's not necessarily cut and dry where there is room for interpretation and so i think trump's to be real at a substantial disadvantage here. >> let's talk about the gag order because judge merchan has instructed donald trump that he can say what he wants about the case. you can say what he wants about the judge. you can say what he wants, what the prosecutor but he can't he needs to stop talking about the witnesses. he needs to stop talking about the family of the judge or the district attorney, or or others. and this is actually like a debate. you hear trump attorney saying, every time i've interviewed one, i'll ask them about michael cohen's credibility or whatever and they say, i have to be careful about what i can say because there's this unprecedented gag order. >> i get the idea that you >> don't want donald trump intimidating or threatening witnesses, but by the same time

is it not questionable to say that donald trump can't say anything publicly about people who are like michael cohen or stormy daniels or whoever are attacking him publicly. >> i think this is going to be one of the most difficult issues for the judge to navigate in this case and that's because he does have first amendment rights. former president trump has first amendment rights to be able to speak about this publicly. he's also a candidate. it also is taking place in this new swish environment in the united states of threats against people who are part of the criminal justice system court personnel judges, their families, et cetera >> i'm sure it in we should note >> he has fomented that environment at the same time. it's going to be really difficult for the judge to inform first, consequences, because if you're talking about monetary fines will find that are in the thousands of dollars that might mean something to a regular person are going to be pennies to him.

they are going to have absolutely zero different effect. if you say a few thousand dollars per tweet or something that's not going to mean anything it's like change. yeah. >> so i think it will be very difficult and then the idea of potentially holding him in contempt or holding him in custody is seems pretty out of bounds of what a judge would be likely to do. so in terms of controlling donald trump. but i quickly, if you could ally, there's these things called the parker warnings, which is about basically behave yourself in court, right? trump responded, yes, three times as he was read these parker warnings, acknowledging he could get that he could get kicked out of court if there's an outburst >> could you see >> any scenario where this judge kicks donald trump out of his own trial or sends him to jail. if you supposed to show up and he doesn't. i don't see the judge sending donald trump during this trial. i just think that's too precipitous, but on the first question, could it kick them out of court? absolutely. if donald trump does the exact same thing in this case that he did in the e jean carroll case with the outburst, he would get kicked out of court for that portion

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she testified before the house judiciary committee in 2019, those phone calls were about the access hollywood tape, but the timing is interesting. what might we hear from her when she testifies? so >> again, let's just repeat for the record she says she did not know so anything about stormy daniels in till november and she is sticking with that story that said to your point october was a bad month for the trump campaign. first access hollywood, then all of these phone calls we don't know what's in those phone calls. but we are hearing that there are text messages, emails, other evidence. so i think we have to wait to see what she testifies, but it does raise the question what did she know and when did she know? >> yeah. and the judge wouldn't i presumably wouldn't let her testify if she didn't have information germane to this issue, not the

access hollywood issue, per say, but this issue having to do with stormy daniels should donald trump theoretically be nervous about who picks testifying? she was with him for all of this journey, very close to him, very loyal to him. >> i think, you just said two words. very close to him. yeah. she >> is the inner circle of the inner circle. she was a confidant. she was in the room a lot. she was on phone calls a lot. >> so >> if unless stress if those calls were about stormy daniels, she may know something. >> she may it's a big question mark aza right now, let's turn to another key witness, michael cohen, who as we will hear from the defense team over and over and over, he pleaded guilty to perjury charges in 2019. now he might be one of the key witnesses for the prosecution in this trial. we had landy davis is former attorney on earlier today and land he said something along the lines of he only committed perjury because he had been told to do so by

donald trump. he was lying then basically saying he was lying. then when he worked for trump is telling the truth now, but that's going to be a big hurdle for the prosecution to convince the jury hey, listen to michael cohen now, even if he was convicted of line before, so there's no question donald trump's lawyers are going to play this to the health that said, the other thing, landy davis made a point of telling us this morning, but he didn't say what was in it it is there are emails, there are text messages there's other information in other words they're not going to just be relying on michael cohen as a witness. one other thing. what is michael cohen? have to gain at this point? he's already served his time. he's not getting anything out of it. >> interesting, jaime go. >> thank you so much. we're also following the major pending decision right now for israel's war cabinet and the prime minister, israel has vowed to directly respond to iran's unprecedented attack on

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>> well, i think at this stage, jake, what we do know is that israel's leadership has been very clear that there will be some kind of response and it seems that there will be a military component to that response. however, it does seem that they are also taking on board some of the concerns that have been raised by israel's backers in the west. we heard secretary of state antony blinken again urging restraint and sort of a a subtle way saying strength and wisdom need to be different sides of the same coin. of course, israel's also dealing with other pressures, not just external pressures, jake, but internal pressures, pressures from right-wing elements of benjamin netanyahu's coalition who have said this is new. this needs to be forceful. we need to give the a bloody nose. we need to reinstate deterrent so there's a lot of different competing factors here. i think at the end of the day, you're looking at a choice of probably three options potentially it could be a direct for tat attack on a military installation on iran.

it could be an asymmetric attack on one of iran more its proxies in the region it could be some kind of a cyber attack. i think you would also expect to see some kind of a diplomatic effort trying to build a coalition, trying to forcefully isolate iran further. but at this stage, we simply don't know yet exactly what the scale and the scope of this will be, what it will look like. and when crucially it will happen. >> jake clarissa sources are telling cnn that while israel's war cabinet is waiting, weighing its options with regards to iran the. rafah ground invasion in gaza has been delayed >> that's what we're hearing. i mean, this operation has been delayed for quite some time for a number of reasons. it's no secret that israel has been facing a huge amount of pressure on this and a huge amount of criticism there have been real concerns voiced about the more than 1 million civilians who are living now in rafah who are camped out there,

where would they be moved to? how could they be? texted? >> then you >> have the desperate humanitarian situation, the fact that famine is stalking northern gaza. and so there's been a massive amount of pressure and criticism leveled at israel. and i think there's a sense from some of israel's allies that like listen this moment, this attack from iran has allowed you to reframe the narrative reframe the conversation. it's given you a little bit of goodwill on the international stage. and so i do think there's pressure for israel to sort of take advantage of that. but again, we come back to this thing of competing pressures because within israel, there is also a lot of pressure to show results from this war, to show results in terms of hostile such as being released, those talks have essentially collapsed. so not exactly a surprise that israel would use this moment to deflect away from that by focusing on iran and then the broader issue will certainly return very quickly of what is to be done about the situation

in rafah. and of course, the disastrous situation inside gaza. jake. >> all right. clarissa ward until the v for us. thanks so much. let's get right to retired us army general johnson spencer, chair of urban warfare studies at the modern war institute. general, thanks so much for joining us. you've been following this minute by minute. former us ambassador to the united nations, john bolton told me yesterday that he saw several options for israel in terms of responding to iran, that might deter iran from further their attacks. take a listen to former ambassador bolton >> start >> by flattening iran's air defense capabilities. next you might go after headquarters of the regular military and the revolutionary guards. you could consider going after their oil infrastructure the oil fields, the distribution pipelines, the export port facilities and most importantly, i think israel should be looking at this there's an opportunity to destroy iran's nuclear weapons program, which is the

existential threat that israel faces is that realistic? are those? >> decent ideas for how israel could retaliate in your view >> hey jake, thanks for having me and just to clarify, its major major general yet, i'm sorry. that's okay >> in our view, in our mind, are generally thank you >> all those things are of course possibilities. i don't think and one yet to recognize the historic attack that was done with drones and missiles, onto israel in that it has to be a comprehensive re-establishment of deterrence. so it's not just for tat, >> although i >> ran clearly escalated this many rungs up the basically escalation ladder in comparison, what everybody thinks the reasons that it happened it has to be a comprehensive, i'm not saying any of those things aren't, but that's israel's decision

>> the institute for the study of war notes that are ron's approach was modeled after the way russia strikes ukraine and quote ukrainian air defenses have averaged interception rates have only about 16% of russian ballistic missiles during recent large strikes, the iranian and it's likely expected that israeli rights would be higher than the ukrainian rates, but not above 90% on quote, are you surprised that the iranians, at least according to this analysis, seemed to have underestimated israel and israel's allies so significantly >> no, i'm not surprised at all. this is a sign of iranian power and the lack thereof. >> but i also don't want to discount just because it's 99% and i'm proud of the united states for assisting jordan and others. since you're on did violate many country's airspace. but it was their intentions, what they're trying to do? yes. and modeling a multi wave attack. and people somehow trying to make that

seem like it. they didn't mean to cause harm. and even this this morning, the white house at no, no. they they wanted to do a lot of destruction and cause a lot of casualties just because they weren't successful. it doesn't mean they didn't intend to. >> i also wanted your take on this delay for the rafah ground offensive. israel is weighing the response to iran's attack, but obviously they still have their goals of getting back their hostages from gaza and defeating hamas to the extent they can sources you're telling cnn that the israeli air force planned on dropping leaflets in the densely populated city as soon as today, do you think a delay is the right move >> i mean, i'm sure there are many factors to include everybody discounting the fact that it attacks daily in the north of israel, and that does take resources and they're over 100,000 israeli citizens. you can't go home. >> i think israel will >> conduct a rafah operation when they feel the time is right and are able to successfully move civilians out

of harm's way, but also deal with things as nations attacking them. so i don't know if they're delayed or not or whether that's a good decision, but i do believe strongly that the job has to be finished hamas has to be destroyed and the hostages had to be brought home but the way it's done does matter >> all right. major john spencer. thank you so much. appreciate it. we're just learning of dozens of people under arrest for large-scale protests that shutdown the golden gate bridge in san francisco. and that was not the only city were demonstrators popped up that's stories next >> this situation with wolf blitzer didn't night it six point cnn this home-style chicken salad rat from subway. this is how you do it. savory chicken. chris veggies all wrapped up. >> these maps are amazing >> people can hear my thoughts >> that's a problem. >> stay fresh out there. all new reps from subway, university of maryland global campus is a school for real

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protestors block traffic on the busy golden gate bridge. cnn's veronica miracle is tracking this story for us and veronica were these, these were pro-palestinian protesters who were they that's right, jake, they're protesting what's happening >> in gaza out one of five major cities impacted across the us though this protest here appear to have the most significant can impact on traffic. it started at 8:00 a.m. didn't wrap up until about 12:30, 28 people were arrested here on the golden gate bridge, including six who had changed themselves to each other and had stopped in front of a block of cars that were also part of that protest. they were holding signs that said stop the world for gaza. but this wasn't the only impact here in the bay area. there's also continues to be an impact over on the eye. eight at in oakland where the southbound lanes is closed sen. protesters there had brought in barrels onto the roadway and chain themselves to those barrels.

organizers say they are part of a worldwide collective that one wants to have solidarity with palestine. they also are fighting for us taxpayer dollars to not go to israel >> and this was >> again like like i said, not the only area impacted. there were also traffic and protests in chicago at chicago, o'hare international airport, where an access road was built blocked. and so protest or excuse me, travelers rather, we're seeing having to walk their luggage into the airport. there were also protests in miami and new york jake. all right. veronica miracle in san francisco for us. thank you so much. court has just adjourned in the first day of the new york hush money cover up case down. trump might be stuck in a courtroom for the next two months critical time for his 2024 campaign, how that might play for him politically, we'll take a look at that next >> to the world with my music >> and now i want to focus on

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because he thinks he is superior the supreme court and we got a real problem with this, judge. ever real problem with a lot of things having to do with this trial, including the da, because you got right aside the people that make muffed in killed all day long and he's sitting here all day with that ten or 12 prosecutors over nothing over nothing >> i'll >> say over what people say should be a trial. so i just want to thank you very much now i can go to my sentence graduation within i can't go to the the united states supreme court that i'm not in georgia or florida, or north carolina. karatay, like i should be. it's perfect for the radicals left democrats, that's exactly what they want. this is about election interference. that's all it's about thanking her >> a right. donamp speang a his first day of

trial as the n york attorney geral ns the prosecuti in theush money cover up case. let's goto cnn's paula reid. she's outside the courthouse in new york and paula i'm where is the line there with mr. trump? possibly violating his gag order with comments assailing the prosecution. did he stay on the correct sayyed of it because he went after the attorney general, he went after the i'm sorry, the district attorney and he went after the judge, but he didn't go after the people. i think he had been banned from criticizing, called publicly. is that right? >> yeah. the acoustics in that hallway or not great, but he is allowed to attack the district attorney alvin bragg, or even the judge overseeing the case. so he does appear to us stayed within the bounds of his expanded gag order, but jake, he's clearly expressing his frustration with the fact that he is a criminal defendant and required to be in court during jury selection and throughout these proceedings. at the tail

end of today's proceedings, his attorneys asked the judge about whether he might be able to get a waiver a specifically, they mentioned the supreme court argument next week on thursday. we're the question of presidential immunity will go before the justices and they asked if he would be able to attend that argument, and the judge said, look, you don't have any right or requirements to, attend a supreme court argument. so the former president expressing frustration about that. he also said repeatedly that he woul not be able to attend his son's graduation now, there are no cameras inside the court. were relying on these great updates that we are getting from our colleagues inside the courtroom. but there was no mention in these live updates where we're getting about any discussion of his graduation. but the judge did infer that he would not be terribly liberal when it came to to granting him waivers from having to attend court day in and day out >> all right. paula reid, thanks so much. let's get a fact check on what we heard from donald trump. just then here, cnn's tom form and tom what jumped out at you?

>> well, what jumps out is that he keeps going back again and again, the end to this idea that somehow all these legal scholars agree that this is not a good case it is fair to say there are plenty of conservative legal scholars who are taking trump's sayyed and there are some on the progressive and liberal sayyed, but far from all of the many, many other legal scholars who said no, this is a serious charge. it is a series korea's case. and as much as he tries to say it's all about politics and yes, alvin bragg is a democrat. this case has been building for a long time. the original evidence was actually being in collected long, long ago. and the notion that this is somehow tied is he often does, the biden administration just no evidence at all of this what this looks like is a serious legal case moving forward that could have big political ramifications but that doesn't necessarily make it a political case. and all the legal scholars don't agree on that. jake >> all right. i'm forming thanks so much. some of the characters outside the courtroom today get at the

political divide. trump's trials create, we saw supporters all lin for trump with big trump flags and maga hats. on the other side, the signs read, election interference is a crime and convict trump already won. group went through the effort to make a large parade style banner reading no one is above the law. let's bring in the panel and now you're let me start with. you want to get you ensure michael to weigh in on this this idea that donalds what donald trump did was election interference. that's what district attorney alvin bragg says. he says that because the hush money payments allegedly were paid to keep that information from voters in october 2016? how credible do you find that the idea that that's election interference, i think there's a fascinating play here that the legal side is making the prosecution is making, and they're leaning into the public conversation in a way that typically you won't see prosecutors do because it is part of the idea that trump

has 88 charges again, it's time the allegations are all out there. trials are happening in different venues at different times and connecting these dots in this way is a messaging device. it's trying to get people to understand how trump has been consistent and is corruption in different places throughout his career. but people are not looking at the hush money as election interference. it does not seem or feel like the same thing as trying to call a secretary of state and turn votes over change, how they go. this this is going to be a challenge i think for the de that he's tried to connect in a messaging way, what really should be a strict legal pursuit? >> when i hear election interference, i think of what now you're just said, the idea of telling a secretary of state to not count votes or to count extra votes, or even more nefarious le, some foreign actor trying to change voting machines. i don't necessarily think, and this is not menn as a criticism of district attorney brag, but i don't think of election interference. it's in the way that he is trying to make this case seen.

what do you think? hey, jake, i don't think you're alone. i think most americans will probably agree and if you look at the polling de, that just came out on this particular case out of the four, it's the least where most people are really worried about whether or not they would or wouldn't vote for the former president. and when you continue to hear trump articulate this message that this is election interference prince are attempting to stop me from defeating president biden. >> there, there >> are some credibility to that in the minds of many republicans. you look at manhattan, almost 80% of the residents they're voted for president biden over trump. you look at the fact that alvin bragg's made very presumptive statements about trump's guilt when he was running for office. that's very very questionable. then you had the newsweek article that came out earlier this morning that said he raised almost $900,000 since indicting trump from a political perspective, district attorney, district attorney bragg's. so you look at these instances and you say, well, wait a minute here, there is a political angle to this when they're honestly shouldn't be yeah and let me go to a new poll last registered voters about trump's criminal cases.

and if they see the charges is very serious, the federal january 6 case ranked first with 58% is what you're michael was just talking about. it's compared to 54% for the georgia election subversion case. then the classified documents case has 50%. the new york hush money cover up case ranked last only 36% viewed the charges as serious. what do you make of it? all? >> i think that we've got to step >> back a little bit >> because, you know, you're looking at a former president who is now running for president again, who is facing multiple choice just in multiple jurisdictions. so we have to like put some gravity on that and i think when you ask people, they may say, look, the hush money thing doesn't see as serious as interfering with the election and calling georgia officials and try and get them to change votes. but this is still someone who's running for president and it seems pretty serious that he could be convicted by a jury of his peers yeah. >> that that seems to be a big deal. and so i think that it

all goes together, even if people don't look at this individual case and think that it's the biggest deal. i think when you look at it all together, those people, not his base, but those people who are iffy on trump. this reminds some of why they have issues with him. this reminds them of the circus that comes with them. and the very certainly being charged with criminal felony, but serious for anybody. i mean, much less than one running for president. >> i think i think the poll numbers have it about right? i mean, it's not about overturning an election it's about falsifying business documents. that's what this case really comes down to. when you call it a hush money case, you get into the whole notion of an affair with a porn star and all that. and people are like dismissive of that because that cake has been baked already when it comes to donald trump the other charges, and i think rightly so are more sierra national security charges and thereabout overturning and elections. so i think the the poll numbers our

right. this doesn't mean that this case is not serious falsifying business documents are serious. and when you go back and look at the context of all of this has happened right after the access hollywood tape. the campaign was in a panic today, we're worried about losing women voters and if this stormy daniels case had come out, they thought or the karen mcdougal affair had come out. they thought it could have cost him the election. yeah. so >> they have to tell a story here and make it important and make it about a man who was afraid of losing the presidency. >> here's done. i'll trump today as day one of his trial got underway, take a listen >> persecution. this is a persecution like never before. nobody's ever exceeded if they get its assault on america >> and that's why i'm >> very proud to be here. this is an assault and our country. >> so this trial could go six to eight weeks that keeps trump tied up in a courtroom almost

every day until possibly early june. now, yes, he could campaign in the evenings and on the weekend but doesn't even need to go campaign given the fact that this is going to be really focused on in the newest media for understandable reasons, it's unprecedented less than and he, and he gets to make have his say in front of millions of people without actually having to spend the money on a campaign rally. so he's going to take every opportunity to get in front of cameras and take that to lean in to what he wants to say. but this isn't about persuasion for donald trump this is about repeating the same thing over and over that he is politically persecuted and reminding his voters that there was a system that they can blame. ironically, trump started his campaign in manhattan. this is where he is now being charged. this is the city where he wanted to be a golden tiger now, alvin bragg is taking him down specifically on the fact that his business has not held up to public scrutiny. just be honest >> that donald trump never really liked being out on the campaign trail and hand shaking

people. >> he loves >> he loves the rallies, he loves the rallies, but a, they're very expensive and they can't afford them now. but he's not he's not somebody who's going to go out and mix it up in the crowd. he didn't do a lot of town halls at all where he mixed it up with voters. he likes to jet in and jet out. and that's what he'll be able to continue to do at least once or twice a week. so whether it will impact that that much, i really don't i really don't think so. >> so the white house says president biden and his campaign are going to stay quiet. they're not going to weigh in on this unprecedented day for trump. what do you think of that? is that smart strategy? are they missing an opportunity to point out the fact like donald trump is being tried in a criminal court. >> they don't need to, they know that there's going to be a lot of coverage of it. they know that he's going to get out there and for the people that they are trying to convince this is not going to look good for donald trump. so i think they feel like, and they feel like they can what they can do is have biden look very presidential. he's out there working for the people doing so with the economy and all of

this. and donald trump is in court for criminal charges. so i think they're going to try to play up that split screen wherever they can. >> okay. we'll see the panel back in the next hour, day one. and donald trump's hush money cover up trial. now in the books, just how much is this case? weighing on him? three people who have worked closely with trump are going to join us next, including one of his former lawyers and a defense attorney who was on his show, the apprentice, a nose the judge and the district attorney, some unique perspectives coming up, stay with us >> 2024 stanley cup play 20 no application fee. if you apply by may 31st at university of maryland global campus and accredited university, that's transformed adult lives 75 years. you're not waiting to when you're ready to succeed again at umg c dot edu.

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from iran we'll speaker johnson, isolate support for israel for an aid package without attaching new aid for ukraine. that's what hardline conservatives want him to do. what will he do? plus hours away from what could be one of the biggest moments for professional women's basketball and superstar standout, caitlin clark. and leading this, our donald trump's motorcade on the move after a whirlwind of developments as the first day of the new york hush money cover-up case comes to a close. at least 50 jurors interview today,hichmoren half were aeaxcus. eyaid impartial the jue ruled that the access hollywood tape it cannote playedhen an future testimony from karen mcdougal, a former playboy mode pmy playbs 1998 plma of the month, who says she had a ten month affair with donald trump, which she denies all this in the case where prosecutors claim mr. trump falsified business records to cover up hush money payments to adult film star and actress and