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covered i'm zachary cohen in washington and this is cnn closed. >> captioning brought to you by mesobook.com if you or a loved one have mesothelial mac will send you a free book to answer questions you may have call now and we'll come to you 808 to one 4,000 he's just a dude it's how one perspective juror in manhattan described coming face-to-face with donald trump. >> jury selection in the hush money case against the former
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president is moving forward. and finally 18 impartial people willing to sit in judgment of the former president is no simple task. plus ready to respond. israel could strike ron any moment what us intelligence reveals about the idf's plans as iran is warning that any retaliation will be met with a pooled severe, extensive, and painful response and students silence. >> she finished at the top of her class at usc, but the school now says it's too dangerous for her to give her valedictorian addressing duration. we're following these major developing stories and many more all coming in right here it. >> is now day two of donald trump's historic criminal trial in manhattan. today, more potential jurors were shuffling in and out of the courtroom and a small group of 18 was just
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questioned for about an hour by prosecutors and trump's defense team. so for though no jurors have been seated and dozens have been dismissed in addition to jury selection today, district attorney alvin bragg filed a motion asking the court to penalize trump for violating the judge's gag order next week, there's gonna be a hearing on that issue. now, we have reporters inside and outside the courtroom covering all of this for us. let's start with cnn anchor and chief legal analyst, laura coates. laura, you actually spoke to one of the potential jurors who was dismissed she described donald trump is just a dude i mean, that was an extraordinary moment. >> among extraordinary moments for us, because here we are are talking about it historic de, a former president, united states on trial, a criminal trial in manhattan. and i didn't change speak to one of the dismissed hur's. you came outside, was confronted by the press that was there on an otherwise
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simple de and you talked about this dynamic at play, this dichotomy between the idea, the gravitas, and of course him just being a regular guy in a court and listen to what she said you get in there and it's it's fascinating because you get these two very contrasting kind of senses at the same time, which is on the one hand, it's this like massive sense of gravitas and important because you know that this is history in the making. >> and whatever the outcome of this is everything going forward will be affected by it and at the same time, you you walk into the courtroom and you see trump sitting there. i had never seen him in person before you see hidden sitting there and it's like, oh, it's just a
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guy his his just a dude and yet qarrah, he's not just a dude. >> he's a former president of the united states. he's sitting in a criminal courtroom. it's not voluntary. he's gotta be there and perhaps the most extraordinary thing today has been there was a unicorn found apparently tell me about this unicorn. yeah. so trump's lawyers were questioning the jury, know they have that 30 minutes to talk to the 18 jurors in the box and he asked them to raise their hand. does everyone know about the other cases that trump it has been charged in and nearly every hand and the bustos, there was one juror who said she was unaware that trump has been charged in any other case. now, some other the questioning our colleagues that were in the courtroom are telling us i hear what you're saying. >> qarrah, think there's somebody who has no idea that there are multiple jurisdictions the charged the former president, i'd saved. and this is the first or learning of it. >> yeah. i mean, she said that she doesn't care for news. she
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doesn't watch the news. she's not into politics. should some of her friends have strong views on this, but she said she doesn't listen to it. and so this was apparently news to her today's sitting in the courtroom potentially sitting in judgment of the former president, unaware that he's facing these other crimes. >> those you wonder how that's going to play for the prosecution and defense. i mean, i do do you want the person who was completely unaware as long as you're impartial or do you want someone who can? the persuaded either way that's going to be a big question if it's not a requirement to be totally ignorant of the details, right? >> right. and one of the jurors, actually a different juror was set at one point in response to a question from the prosecution i don't know all the facts in this case. i haven't really heard the details. is that a problem? do you like do you want someone who's more red in essentially and you're the prosecutor? saying no, you're just supposed to judge what you've learned in this courtroom because as you know, that's the issue, some evidence won't come in. there's a lot of evidence that will come in and the jury's supposed to make their decision on that evidence, not anything else that might here. >> now, some jurors today have
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been dismissed because they said that they had scheduling conflicts the length of the trial, others, four cause, one at least came back to say that he did that he could be impartial. that was somebody who was leaning towards trump right? this was a juror who's originally from dallas, texas. he said a lot of his friends are republicans and he said he thinks that he was afraid he had like an unconscious bias and he wanted to bring that forth to the judge and that was the reason why the judge dismissed him. i mean, what we're also seeing from some of these jurors, there's one juror who's a corporate lawyer and he said that he was a big fan of the apprentice show when he was in middle school and he said he agreed with some things that trump did while president disagreed with others that really just there. all we're just learning a little bit more about all who all these people are, where you have, we know there's a prosecutor peter among them, someone with a law degree as well, really engine to think about how that's all going to play out and you bring up the age watching the apprentice and middle school, there may be some jurors who possibly on that jury pool, who eight years ago and when x is high would tape came out and beyond, they were not read in.
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they were maybe not even a voting age yet, right? >> they wouldn't have known the details or perhaps even paid attention to the details where trump is confronted on air force one about the hush money payment. and he said, no, you'd have to talk to michael cohen, my lawyer, and just then michael cohen months later, his home as raided by the fbi. he then ultimately pleads guilty. there could be a number of jurors here who were in high school or college and just not paying that close of attention to the policy politics at the time because maybe they weren't a voting age or they were just not really that tuned in. so people will be coming to donald trump with different histories in their lives meet a lot of people here are lifelong new yorkers. there's a man here in the jury box who immigrated from mexico. he's become a citizen sen. you city became a citizen while donald trump was president in a lot of people will come in here with different views. some people may remember trump from his tabloid fixture days when he was the real estate developer, the apprentice this or some people might have only known
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him as the former president. >> it also means of course, boris jessica that there could be each of these witnesses could be blank slates people like to remember the daniel's, people like michael cohen, just to name a few, david. and remember, you've got jurors who were in the box right now, 18 total, none of them. i've been officially chosen to actually be on this jury pool, but they're being questioned a second time now to figure out, in addition to this actual jury questionnaire, whether they are a truly going to be impartial. we have a little bit a ways to go still, but we have at least 18 people in the box. will they stay is a big question in this historic moment yeah, it'll be interesting to see which way the attorneys go or if they favor that sort of blank slate person that doesn't know the details or if they rely on someone who says they can be impartial laura coates, kara scannell from outside that courtroom. >> thank you so much. jessica all right, great analysis from outside there we know president trump is back inside the courtroom and now legal analyst and former us attorney michael moore is joining us to talk more about this. michael, i'm
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curious just to start off, what stands out to you so far on the second day yeah. >> well, i'm glad to be with you one thing we see is that this is just taking a long time and that's expected and frankly, this is just the way cases work. they don't always get resolved in a during a tv show or a movie length. there's a long time to pick a jury. i mean, there's a case in georgia where the jury took almost a year to pick the jury. so this will take a little bit of time, but i also want to point out that the idea that it's trump's lawyers that are trying to basically really sift through and listen for other motives are other reasons people may want to be on the jury are not be on the jury the prosecution has to do the same thing because they're also having to sort of use the art of the jury questioning process to find out. does do these people have a bit toward the defendant? is there some reason that they may have a reason to dislike the state in a case if they have somebody in their family have been prosecuted heated by the state. and so
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they may not be a good juror for us, aside from the donald trump case. and so all of these things will be going on when all these machinations we happen. this is a little bit of an art. it's not just a science as you have to listen carefully and it'll be up to some skillful questioning to fair it out. those places where there may be biases for or against the defendant or for or against the state in this case? >> yeah. another analysts before we came on the air is talking to them and they were saying you have to remember for each side, you want to stack this deck as well as you can on both sides once, once it, once it's set up to favor them, how much are the attorneys as they're going through this process, looking at something like body language, right? like the body language of the of them sing the former president of how they're reacting to the questions, things like that? >> i think they're probably looking at it. a great deal of paying good attention to it you usually would have a jury consultant helping you at this in this kind of case. so that first will be advised that look
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you know, these people seem to be put off by some of the questions so they maybe are sitting there were their arms crossed and they seem to be defensive when either the defense lawyers or the state attorneys may be questioned in them or they seem to be evasive in their answers. or we saw him laughing at appropriate time or at a joke that one of the council has made, or maybe they're making eyes at some of the lawyers in the courtroom. and so somebody is watching this to read that language to see if there may be some inherent feeling for or against one side or another. it may not be necessarily about the facts of the case, but that's sort of sub liminal messaging is always key and if you think about it, just from basic psychology and how people react and do a look you in the eye. do they seem to be welcoming you hear about people when they're having a fight, they may the cross their arms and get defensive and protective. they're looking to see to jurors answer the questions like that are in that posture. and so all of those things come into play almost as much i think is some of the
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questioning that they'll be getting because, you know, people, people want to inherently say, look i can absolutely be impartial because people want to be good, right? they will to do the right thing. they don't want to admit that they may have some bias because they, they biases a negative term somewhere. so all of these things will factor together both sides try to, try to go through these jurors as they're brought in for further questioning. >> it is an interesting exercise in human psychology for sure. we also know that they just broken for lunch, so we're keeping an eye on that courtroom as well. michael moore, always great to see you. thanks so much for being with us. >> it's great to be with you still ahead at this hour on cnn news central as the world awaits israel's response to missile attack, we're learning new details on what us officials think it may look like if it happens plus the supreme court hearing arguments on a critical case that could overturn hundreds of capitol riot convictions and growing backlash after usc tells it's valedictorian, it is not safe for her to give her commencement speech because of her probe palestinian views. >> we will hear from her later
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in tel aviv and anderson, israel's war cabinet met again today, the fifth time since iranian attack do we have a read on how officials are in timetable of getting close to a decision where they are we do not have any kind of official readout that meeting lasted for more than five hours today, as you said, it is the fifth time that they have met. >> there's obviously divisions within that that were cabinet about how to proceed both the in terms of the pacing of it and when that might occur. and also the scale of any kind of response there is certainly among the israeli population, a strong belief that iran, that israel must respond in some way. the question exactly is how and when, but we have not been given any official indication are probably would we before any kind of strike by israel on on iran and the
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clearly they're trying to figure out how to calibrate any kind of response. they don't want to provoke a larger than retaliatory strike in returned want to send a message largely to iran into other actors in the the region that you can't have a missile attack on israel, particularly direct attack from iran without there being some sort of retaliatory response anderson, you mentioned the views of the israeli people you were in israel shortly after the october 7 attacks. >> i'm wondering where you sense public opinion is now nearly six months or so later in light of everything that's happened. and now in light of increased tensions with iran yeah. >> well, as you know, boris, i mean, there had been increasing divisions among these really pop population. we've now seen increasing demonstrations in the streets here regarding the hostages. many of the obviously the hostage families are desperate to have their loved
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ones returned and want that to be priority number one certainly, among people i've talked to hear among a former officials and others there's a unanimity of there needs to be some sort of response to iran. this was an unprecedented attack in terms of being a direct attack from iran on israel. that is something they say cannot go unanswered but of course as i said, they don't want to do something that provokes. than a larger conflagration. so there's certainly a deep desire here that there be some sort of response to project strength to show that this is an respond to they believe is sort of a game-changing event with the direct response by, by iran we also got some new reporting that hamas has changed its demands ands for a hostage for prisoner deal that proposed ceasefire deal.
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>> you've been in contact with hostages, families and i imagined that it has to be heart-wrenching to hear that there are more setbacks now in these negotiations yeah, that reporting came from cnn's jeremy diamond from an israeli official close to the negotiations it is, it is a huge setback, certainly for hostage families anytime you hear that hamas is now changing the demands that they're making, saying that they will only give up 20 hostages in a particular category as opposed to 40, which was the number of previously being discussed as well as wanting more palestinian prisoners who are serving life sentences and in jail currently, more prisoners released, fewer hostages actually being released. that clearly is both a setback for israel. the negotiating table for the hostage families. i mean, it's it's really devastating. anything that delays even for a minute or an hour, the length of time with which their loved ones are
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being held. and you have to remember most most of these hostages families have no idea if their loved one is still alive. it's not as if hamas or any of these groups, as long as she had or others has, has given a list of all the hostages names of those who are being hello, so there are ones who were there were people were taken who were badly wounded, and their family members are or are not even sure if they are alive are still being held i. understand cooper live for us in tel aviv. thanks so much, anderson. jessica let's talk more about all of this was retired us army colonel peter man sore. >> he's a former executive director to general david petraeus during the war in iraq, and now a history professor at ohio state university, colonel, great to have you with us. thanks so much for being here. >> sources say the us believes israel's military response will be limited in scope. >> what do you think a limited response could look like well, limited response could be a covert response, say a cyber attack against or-awn that would be probably the best of
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all worlds because it doesn't force around to retaliate. >> another way to strike at around would be to strike at its proxies or it's operatives around the region. and refrain from attacking iran directly. i think the worst of all possibilities is an israeli attack on iran which could then cause or-awn to retaliate again. and then you have this for tat, which could lead to a full-blown conflict, right? >> and to that end, president biden his administration are now walking this very fine line. us air defenses shooting down iranian drones headed for israel on saturday at the same time, defending their ally at the same time trying to avoid this spilling over and becoming a wider conflict. so how does he successfully walk that line? >> well those air defenses did their job. they prevented a mass attack on israel. there was very little damage. >> one young girl seriously
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injured, but other than that the air defenses worked and this really gives israel the opportunity just as president biden said, take the win and move on. >> you've already killed the two or and quds force operatives in syria you've achieved your objective and you've parried arounds, retaliatory blow. so i really don't think that israel has to do anything but for some reason they feel like they must israel, israeli war cabinet, we now know his met five times since the iranian attack on saturday is there anything to take away from the fact that they have not active yet? well, i think they're deliberating very carefully their response because they realized that this thing could spiral out of control pretty quickly. and as i said, any direct response from israel aims into iranian territory would do precisely that. so i think what they're trying to determine is what can
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we strike? that's a big enough target to re-establish deterrence and yet not force around to come back at us and we heard anderson talking with boris about the hostages that remain in gaza. >> over 100 hostages remain in gaza. what is all of this mean? more broadly for the negotiation? since over a temporary ceasefire and hostage deal you know, it makes it more difficult, i think to come to terms and to an agreement with hamas. there obviously allied with or-awn. and if iran is entering the conflict, rather than stepping back that gives hamas hope that they could potentially survive israeli israel's assault. and therefore, they don't need to give into any sort of hostage for truce negotiations right now but we'll see all right, colonel peter man's word. thank you so much for your time. we appreciate it thank you boris
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turning now to capitol hill, where or house speaker mike johnson remains defiant, saying he will not resign amid a growing threat to his leadership today, congressman thomas massie, a hardline conservative, announced that he is co-sponsoring the effort by georgia congresswoman marjorie taylor greene to remove johnson as speaker and idea that johnson calls absurd cnn's lauren fox is live force on capitol hills. >> lauren, what happens next? >> yeah. marjorie taylor greene has not said exactly or when or if she is actually going to bring this effort to try to oust so johnson. but she now has backup in representative thomas massie. he serves on the house rules committee and he's been very disappointed and frustrated. wood johnson leadership relating to a series of issues including ukraine aid and the issue of the renewal of the federal intelligence surveillance act last week,
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right now, what we are waiting to see is whether or not they give any further direction as to when they would move to try and oust speaker mike if johnson it's important contexts to keep in mind that at the end of the week, bye gallagher, a republican, is expected to step aside from his seed once that i'd happens, mike johnson will have just a one seat margin, which means he cannot lose more than one republican on any given vote. now there were already a number we're of democrats who have said that they plan to try and stop the effort to oust mike johnson, that they would be willing to help him right now. we know all of two senate house democrats, excuse me, who fall into that category. but obviously there's just a lot that we do not know right now. now, right after massy made this announcement in a closed-door republican conference meeting, he said this to reporters you want him to resign yes. >> yeah. i asked him to resign. and what he what he said he
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said he would not he said, well, you're the one who's going to put us into this because the motion is going to get called. >> okay. >> does anybody doubt that emotion will get called? >> and then he's going to lose more votes and kevin mccarthy, i am not resigning. >> and it is it is in my view and absurd notion that someone we're bringing a vacate motion when we are simply here trying to do our jobs. it is not helpful to the cause. it is not helpful to the country. it has not helped the house republicans advance our agenda, which is in the best it's interests of the american people here you see their speaker johnson defiant, but it is incredible moment that you hear the speaker of the house saying and today, he's not resigning. >> write that question obviously opened up now with the reality that thomas massie joining marjorie taylor greene, saying he would be willing to support an effort to oust the speaker lauren. >> part of this squabble is over speaker johnson's plans for foreign aid to ukraine, israel, and others walk us
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through his plan to get those bills through the house yeah. >> we are still waiting on a release of that legislative text that's when we'll get a lot more details that it's when members will get a lot more details about precisely what he has planned. democrats are anxiously awaiting to see whether or not there's about $9 billion in humanitarian breon aid that would be included in that package, some of which would go to gaza. >> so there's a lot of questions right now about what this package will include. >> but essentially what he wants to do is break up pieces of what was already passed in that senate bill and try to pass them one by one aid to israel, aid to the indo-pacific, aid to ukraine. there he is in perhaps for doing that is the fact that there are vastly different coalitions of votes in the house that would be willing to support those various bills. you have some democrats who do not want to support additional aid to israel if there are not conditions put on that aid you also have many republicans, conservatives who do not want to support additional aid for
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ukraine. so the hope in the mind of republican leaders is by breaking this up. do you have for success in getting some of these pieces across the finish line for us. >> lauren fox, live force on capitol hill. thanks so much. >> still to come on. news the criminal hush money trial against donald trump is on a short lunch break expected to restart in less than an hour. ahead. we're going to break down the new challenges facing both the defense and prosecutors. and the supreme court case that could lead to charges being dropped. again some january 6 defendants and potentially even donald trump details and just moments i wanted 24 stanley cup play on april 20 kevin bought the tape.
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afternoon with us. what's your impression of the pace of jury selection so far it could take up to several weeks to just seat a jury boris, i don't think he's going to take that long, actually, i think we're making good progress right now, even though a lot of jurors were dismissed yesterday who are obviously very candid about their opinions, said they couldn't be fair there's a number of people that are seated, so we've got 18 on the box the magic number that that both sides need in order to exercise their peremptory challenges is around 40, 38 to 40 jurors. >> there. so if we've got 18 so far, the parties are obviously reading the questionnaires and seeing okay. how can i exercise those i think we're getting there you fairly quickly roughly half the potential jurors that were brought in yesterday said that they could not be impartial and they got immediately disqualify. there. we're very forthcoming with their views.
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i'm wondering how the court potentially weeds out jurors who may actually have a bias one way or the other, but are as forthcoming with their views it's very difficult because mostly the law recognizes a stated bias whether juror says yes, i can't be fair. >> and then there also has to be the court then considers well, is there an inferred bias in other words, is there something that's a juror says that really does give wrong hi, guys one of the examples might have from this morning is that some of the juror said, well, i've got strong opinions, so i'm not sure. i think i can be fair, but i'm not sure. well, a defendant is actually entitled to a jury who is certain of their that they can be fair and impartial. so the court has to make some decisions in terms of excusing a juror for cause about whether it's stated or not, whether they can overcome that bias. in other words, if they're self-aware enough to be able to monitor that bias during the trial. and just look at the
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evidence. >> what do you think this jury pool is ultimately going to look like well, i think it's going to be a very educated pool. >> i mean, that's fairly normal for manhattan. >> there's, there's lawyers that are now in the pool. >> there's financial people, there's marketing executives typically the education it's fairly high, so it will probably be a fairly smart jury. there might be, but it'll be a diverse jury also. it'll be diverse demographically so it ultimately is going to be very interesting especially as i noted, there's already a couple of lawyers and the thing that's always poses a little but a risk for both sides because those are opinion leaders, those are people who can actually really steer the jury so both sides are kind of looking at this and going who are going to be my main leaders in this jury. and i think it's going to be very interesting the defense and the prosecution, they both get
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these ten preemptive strikes they get essentially have a juror dismissed. no questions asked up to a limit of ten how does the strategy ago about when they decide to employ that strike well, there it is a little bit like chess is a little bit like 3d chess, in which you are using your strikes. >> there are some people that you think maybe the other side is going to strike them. therefore, i can spare my strike truly, you're picking a jury of sort of only a few people who are going to be the opinion leaders. so you're prioritizing who are your most high-risk individuals, and then trying to eliminate them to basically reshape the pool a little bit. so you get the most advantageous hearing. both sides are looking for different things though the prosecution is looking for consensus jury, a group of people is going to work together, get along and come to unanimous verdict. the defense is looking though, for
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a jury, what i would call high conflict jury a jury that's going to not get along is going to fight each other. because let's face it, don't trump is a win for him if he gets even a hung, one juror or several that don't agree with a verdict uh, richard gabriel, really appreciate your perspective. >> thanks for being with us. >> thank you so the supreme court is hearing a case over a law that was used to prosecutes several january 6 rioters but some justices are skeptical about the reason the law was applied in the first place or get into those details. >> and just into cnn voting technology companies, smartmatic has reached a settlement with far-right one america news network. smartmatic sued oan over its lies about the 2020 election much more promise straight ahead every weekday morning, cnn's five things has what you need to get i can going with
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every step covered i mourn liebermann at the pentagon and this cnn supreme court is now weighing a case that could let hundreds january 6 rioters off the hook from obstruction charges. >> today, the justices heard arguments it's over whether a federal law that makes it a crime to obstruct an official proceeding can be used to prosecute those who stormed the capitol on january 6. >> and the high court's decision could have major implications for donald trump, who was charged with the same crime in the federal election interference case against him with us. now cnn chief legal affairs correspondent paula reid, paul but what do we hear from the justices today? appears the court is divided largely along party lines about whether this law that has been used to charge hundreds of rioters is ben has been properly applied. this law was passed in 2002 in the wake of enron as part of sarbanes oxley. and it covers people who
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obstct or interfere with it an official proceeding. and there's a catch-all provision in there that this defendant, mr. fisher, argues, has been too broadly applied and should not include folks who participated in january 6. he argues that this is for people who engage in witness tampering or evidence tampering not folks who, for example, allegedly attack police officers. so at the district court level, he won. they agreed this was misapplied, but the court of appeals went the other way, which is how we found ourselves at the supreme court, but we likely won't get this decision until mid to late june right. it's always wait till middle-age june with the supreme court. what kind of ruling potentially mean for trump though? >> so initially a lot of folks said, oh, this could have an impact on the trump case. but if you really drilled down even the alleged conduct here for this specific charge for trump as compared to the folks who were on the cow capitol hill, it's different, right? he didn't show up at the riot, even though he may have wanted to at some point, he didn't show up there. his allegations,
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of course, this is only one of the charges that he faces in the federal elections case. it's different, so it's not clear that even if the supreme court sides of mr. fisher, that that would really have any impact on trump's case. but of course, next week on thursday, the supreme court will take up trump's federal election subversion case. and this question of presidential immunity and whether he has any immunity that would shield him in that case. that will of course, have a much bigger impact on his case. absolutely. and just before we let you go, justice, clarence thomas was back on the bench today after being out. what are you learning about his unexplained absence yesterday? >> look, i think this is one of the biggest news today because yesterday he was not in arguments and the supreme court, which i affectionately referred to as the least transparent brands have government and didn't provide any explanation. we're usually they do. there's also the option to purchase despite remotely. and this raises a lot of questions about the most senior associate justice, why his e naught here is he in good health? because as we know, any question or concern about the viability of a supreme court
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responding well, boris, as you might expect in these passionate and polarized times, there are strong opinions on both sides here. >> there are groups and individuals who were calling for this woman to be banned from giving her speech because they say her social media activity is stoking violence there are, of course, many people on the other side saying that the fact that use won't let her speak is a gross violation of free speech and stifling a pro-palestinian voice usc says this has nothing to do with free speech. this is all about safety. i'm gonna read a little bit from their letter and then singh, what they decided, they say discussion relating to the selection of our valid valedictorian has taken on an alarming tenor. we must prioritize the safety of our community. now, i've just spoken to asner to basem on zoom. she wouldn't tell me what she was planning to talk about in that speech. she said
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it was going to be about hope. take a little listen to what she had to say whether or not i planned to speak about palestine, speak about any sort of conflict in general. >> i think is besides the point, the point here is that the university preemptively made a decision not on the basis of safety, but on the basis of potentially other factors that i think impedes on my freedom of expression now, use said listen, we have to look at what's happened on other campuses around the country in the past six months, the violence and harassment that is really surrounded this debate over what's going on in the middle east just last week up at uc berkeley at the law school. >> young pro-palestinian woman got up during a dinner at the deans house and started speaking and that led to a bit of a situation. there's also the issue of campuses have become like a real focus for this. the broader community moving in and a lot of
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