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>> israel as weighing how to respond to iran direct attacks over the weekend. great, pushing for sanctions over military strikes are anderson cooper is joining us live. these in television following all these rapidly evolving development. so what are you hearing anderson, first of all, about a potential so israeli military response yeah, wolf, their the war cabinet has not been meeting today, which is perhaps significant given that they have met at least five times over the last several days and many of those meetings lasting many, many hours, obviously there have been a lot of contentious discussions the divided nature of some of the players on that on that cabinet no official

word yet on what decision has been made, what timing of any kind of counter attack would be? >> jeremy diamond is here with me in tel aviv. jeremy, you recently got to look at actually one of the missiles that had been fired by around yeah. >> and it really is something to see up close, anderson, i mean, this thing is just one part of this ballistic missile and it was 36 feet in length. it actually fell into the dead sea. the israeli military recovered it and brought it to a military base where they are brought us to show us the power of these missiles. take a look is just one piece of an arrhenius ballistic missile that the israeli military says iran fire towards israel over the weekend at 36 feet long. >> this is just the fuel tank for that missile the israeli military says more than 100 ballistic missiles were fired at israel in this attack, only a handful of them actually making it through israel's air

defense systems. and the israeli military believes this missile was likely intercepted that you can see the holes in the sides of this fuel tank. this missile was actually found in the dead sea. it was recovered and it was taken to this base in southern israel. but now israel says it must respond, it must reestablish deterrence they say this attack cannot go unanswered. the only question now is how these really military will respond. and when and so anderson, obviously the majority, the overwhelming majority of these hundred 20 plus ballistic missiles were intercepted. but when you see it up close, you imagine the amount of fuel that's packed into that. the warhead itself is about a half a ton of explosives. and so you can just imagine the destructive power that it could have had. it made it through that that air defense system. and so it's interesting as we're looking for what the next steps of israel's response will be. these really prime minister invoking the fact that the allies israel's allies helped with that air defense effort. but still, he's saying

that's not going to box him in as far as what israel will do to respond to iran. he's saying that israel will make its own decision. what do you make? >> fact that the work i'm gonna is not meeting today, but that there had been so many meetings that have gone on for so long and still no action on a response. >> it's interesting because i know that initially there was a question of timing. benny gantz netanyahu's chief political rival, who's also a member of that war cabinet. he was arguing for a much swifter response. you wanted to respond basically right away to iran, strike netanyahu, kind of pumped the brakes and that is also characteristic of benjamin netanyahu. he is someone who despite his hawkish reputation, the rhetoric that he uses, he's actually someone who's quite cautious and certainly very deliberate and making decisions. i've been told by multiple israeli officials that he likes wait until the very last minute to actually call off to make make a decision. but it's also important to keep in mind that with any military action, there are timing things that could shift, right? whether it's trying to hit a facility that's unmanned,

realizing at the last minute that that facility is indeed man, there are a number of intelligence factors, military factors that could be he weighing on a potential decision and perhaps why we haven't seen that military response come obviously, attention has not been on gaza as much internationally over the last several days, which clearly there had been the rafah operation that was supposed to i believe we're supposed to be this week and you had reported that leaflets were supposed to be dropped on monday that did not occur. >> is that still on the table it's definitely still on the table is really officials have told me despite that delay that i reported on that a rafah offensive will indeed happen and even as the attention has been on the situation between israel and iran, this has been a very deadly week in gaza. >> we saw even just yesterday dozens of people were killed and various israeli airstrikes in central gaza, in particular, a one particularly deadly situation and the al-mawasi refugee camp where at least eight children were killed in

one strike. so it's important to keep in mind that even as the focuses on these kind of big geopolitical issues, israel's military campaign in gaza still very much ongoing and they are also vowing to finish the job there. and that's certainly a complicating factors they consider this response to iran netanyahu wants to finish the job in gaza, and i think he also knows that a hot war with iran is going to detract his attention to track the military's attention from actually finishing off hamas in gaza, which he has said, of course this is stated objective, jeremy, thanks so much, wolf back to you and i thank you. >> it's actually jeremy as well. both of you in tel aviv, a secretary of state, antony blinken, meanwhile, has just arrived at the g7 for administers summit on the italian ireland of capri de-escalating these tensions between iran and israel is expected to dominate the talks among the world's largest economies. cnn national security correspondent kylie atwood is here with me and the cnn newsroom. kylie, what are your sources saying about these very important conversations that are about to take place in

capri well, given the backdrop, of course, this tension between iran and israel, what sources are focused on is these sanctions and new iran sanctions. we heard just yesterday from the naturals advisor, jake sullivan, to the presence saying that the us is working on new iran sanctions to go after iran's drone and missile program also go after entities that are supporting iran's irgc. and it's ministry of defense. and then we've also heard from the uk foreign secretary, who is in israel just this morning saying that the g7 is looking at coordinated iran sanctions. so that's something that we'll be watching for out of this meeting. the secretary of state, tony blinken just arrived this morning. the other thing that i want to know just to pivot for a second away from the region, is that us officials just last week told reporters that there is really an unprecedented amount of support that china is giving to russia in order to build up its defense industrial base. and that's allowing russia to

build up its military expansion in a way that it hasn't done since the soviet era. they think that europeans could put some pressure on china in this vein. so that's another thing that there'll be discussing at the g7 this week, the stakes write down clearly are enormous. we'll see what happens at that g7 summit, kylie, thank you very, very much, kylie atwood reporting for us. i want to bring in and seeing them political and global jersey analyst barak ravid right now, he's also reported for axios barack give me your analysis of prime minister netanyahu statement, thanking the allies for their support, but letting them know that israel and only israel will make the decision on how to respond to iran i will i think both the biden administration and other governments in the west, like the uk, like france, they're not telling netanya what to do. >> they're just giving him an advice in they say, look, you have the higher moral ground right now iran is in the

corner. >> the international community now it's ready to put more pressure on iran. >> if you go now and go on a huge strike, it gets the iranians you're sort of giving the iranians a very good way out of where they are right now. and today when attorney are met did camera in the uk, foreign secretary, he made it clear that israel is going to respond, but he also used a very interesting term. he says that any israeli response will be thoughtful and calculated, meaning, netanyahu wants to respond, but in a way that will not cause a huge regional escalation. >> so how do the western allies and israel barack come to a consensus here? could there be some kind of a compromise where they're all working together with the same goal i think they're trying to do that. i think they're trying to minimize the israeli response as best as they can in order to

make sure there's no huge regional war out of this thing, but it's a tricky thing because you can never know what the healthy range when to respond. the assessment i hear from both us and israeli officials is that the will respond to any israeli strike in their territory. the question is, are they going to respond the same way they did on last saturday? is it going to be even bigger or they're just going to try and sort of close this incident incident with some sort of symbolic response. but those are all question mark. this is why when you enter such a thing, you don't know how you're going to come out a brand new poll from the hebrew university of jerusalem, barack found that 74% of israelis opposed retaliatory strikes against iran if they were to undermine israel's security alliances, just 26% say they should strike regardless of what the allies are telling israel is prime minister student to moving

farther away from what the israeli people want i, i'm not sure. i'm not sure. look inside the war cabinet right now, that internal division is not according to party lines. it's more a division between the former generals so defense garland and former idf chiefs of staff eisenkot and benny gantz. and the civilians netanyahu himself, ron dermer, and aryeh deri, the leader of the ultra-orthodox shas party. >> so this is the division between the generals who want a more aggressive response and the civilians want two, were more careful. >> but i'll give you another point and i'm sure, you in many of our viewers who understand it very well and this is that we are less than a week away from the holy, holy, holiday of passover when jews all over the world, and especially in israel, i have

their family seder passover seder. this is a big thing for netanyahu to decide right now to go in a strike with iran that might lead to a war. a few days before this huge religious holiday, it's a big thing it's like the present united states taking such a decision four days before christmas. so it's a main issue even though it seems like an anecdote, it's a main part in the decision-making addressing very interesting, a deep barak ravid. thank you very much for urinalysis and still ahead, this hour. more details about the seven people pick, at least so far to serve on the jury and the donald trump historic hush money trial and seven are about to hear from a boeing whistleblower who is going public now for the first time his claims about xabi manufacturing after several jets were grounded this year and lawmakers question university leaders about an alarming spike in campus antisemitism stay with us.

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lack of everything for ukraine meanwhile, the senate passed its bill in february. it included assistance for both countries president biden concludes the op-ed in the wall street journal by saying, and i'm quoting him now, there are moments in history. they're called for leadership and courage. this is one of them a battle over four and eight has led to internal chaos in the house with republican speaker mike johnson's job on the line right now, johnson just announced in a memo to members that he will move forward with a vote on ukraine aid, seen as chief congressional correspondent matter raja is up on capitol hill. so amount of what's the latest what are you learning? >> yeah. this is a significant move and good comes at a time of desperate need for ukraine, which has been clamoring for this aid for months and months and months. and now speaker johnson is detailing plans to move ahead with this package of new builds bills that he's going to unveil this afternoon and there'll be a vote in the

full house by saturday evening. recall that $95 billion foreign aid package did pass the senate about two months ago, that included aid to ukraine, israel, and taiwan. but johnson wants to do here is to try to split up those measures in visually and also add something else. another proposal that would deal with issues such as a potential ban on tiktok and other policy measures as well. and in this text message to members, he also indicates midi plans to move forward with a border security bill as well. it's unclear exactly what the contents of that he says it would have come opponents of the republican-led at bill that passed the house last year. now this is big question here, wolfe, what the process be there have been some expectation in the house that the bill that would ultimately be approved. and now it's going to happen on saturday when when and if that's approved will go over to the senate as one package. there are parliamentary procedures and were taken cobble all these individual pieces together and send it over to the senate in

one package. why that's significant is because the white house and democrats in particular have demanded that all these issues ride together. they want ukraine aid dried along with israel aid concern that ukraine could fall by the wayside. but republican hardliners in particular don't want a dime spent more on ukraine aid. do not want to tied to israel and that's the rub, that is a real challenge for my johnson at this key moment is his fence facing threats from two members of his own conference to oust him from the speakership. the question will be, how many more republicans join that? referred if he does go along with that strategy, if that border security plan does not make it into this final package, that goes over to the senate. and what will democrats do? will they come to his defense where they pushed this bill over the finish line? they will need democratic support to pass this and will they save mike johnson's job all critical questions as a speaker now announcing saturday evening, a critical evening of votes on this package and potentially from mike johnson's future. >> very sensitive moment, some

democrats have already said they will support the speaker, speaker johnson. i want to turn to the senate while i have you, mano, later today, the impeachment trial of the homeland security secretary, alejandro hi orcas will begin in the senate. what can we expect from the senate floor later this afternoon it could be a potentially quick proceeding here, wolf, because democrats, they have the votes essentially kill this proceeding immediately. >> they could wait. there have been some negotiations about having procedural votes that could take place. republicans make it a political points to argue there should be a full-blown trial. democrats say there should not be at trial, but they have not been able to reach an agreement to schedule these votes. and the moment we do expect, democrats have tried to quickly move to dismiss this altogether, which simply requires a simple majority of senate democrats. the question will be also oh this could play out politically, some vulnerable democrats, including one at pennsylvania democrat bob casey. i asked him about his opposition to moving ahead with this trial and the impacts

of this could have on his rais there should be a trial i don't i think we should move on and get to work on it. >> bipartisan border security deal. >> do you think your parents will use that vote to dismiss against you? >> oh i'm sure they will be hurtful work. i voted multiple times to support the best deal for border security in 25 years, supported by the border patrol agents so you don't support democrats so the question will be, what other vulnerable democrats dude senator jon tester of montana, one to watch, as well as sherrod brown of ohio. >> we do expect them likely to vote too. dismiss this. we'll see some other republicans, lisa murkowski of one of alaska, someone who's criticizes proceedings, how she may ultimately vote on this key measurable wolf. we expect this effort, while historic, only the second cabinet secretary ever to be impeached to end pretty quickly. this afternoon. >> i suspect you're right. manu

raju up on capitol hill. thank you. i want to quickly turn to new york right now. the court is dark today in donald trump's criminal hush money trial. but jury selection is set to resume tomorrow and opening statements could begin, potentially as soon as monday, so far seven jurors for men and three women men have been selected. one of them has already been named foreman, and this morning, the former president is taking to social media to criticize the selection process just a d after the judge scolded him at one point, judge juan merchan told trump and i'm quoting him now, i will not have any jurors intimidated see you in a national security reporters that cone is with me here in the cnn newsroom. zach. so what else is trump saying right now? he supposedly under a gag order. >> it well, if trump using his day off to complain about the fact that both prosecutors and defense attorneys in this case only get ten strikes. they can use to disqualify potential jurors. this is the standard number of strikes that wears on both sides get in a case where

a defendant is charged with the crimes that trump is charged with. but trump says that he was under the impression claiming on social media that he thought strikes were supposed to be quote, unlimited when picking the jury, and that he was told they only had ten opportunities do that and makes his argument that we've heard from them before that you can't get a fair trial in new york because of the demographics that is puzzling on a few fronts. because one, we know that donald trump's attorneys have been aware of the fact that they would only have ten strikes for months now, in fact, the judge reminded all parties involved during a hearing where trump was president, that was going to be the case but trump, using his time outside the courtroom to criticize the trial itself as you mentioned, judge merchan did reprimand trump in court yesterday when trump was reacting to what one of the jurors was saying when being questioned about their social media posts. so we're getting a look at how trump is going to act when he, on the one day day a week that he's not in court versus how he's been forced to act when he is in the courtroom following his day in court

yesterday, as you know, zach trump was asked about potential jurors. tell her viewers what he had to say yeah, that's right. >> don't trump sat for hours in the courtroom and watched as seven jurors were sworn in. >> we need five more plus about six alternates. but after leaving court yesterday, don trump was asked if he thought these jurors could render a fair verdict and ticket. listen to what he said your mind is an ideal der anybody do you believe you know, after after so trump saying essentially if he likes the verdict that they render, he'll let you know if he thinks it's fair not that is consistent with how trump has up for frame this trial from the beginning. a lot more to come. we still have months of trial ahead of us. but opening statements could take place as soon as monday, judge merchan optimistic taking that timeline, but first, you have to complete jury selection. >> once again, this is the first time in american history, a former president of the united states has actually gone to a criminal trial. so we'll

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hill right now, where a former senior manager at boeing, ed pearson, is answering congress, congressman's questions. >> listen to this. >> there is an inherent conflict of interests the department of transportation has been completely useless and helping the faa do their jobs. they have continued to take a hands-off approach this entire matter. my third point is, if the leaders of those government or authorities a good government agencies had done their jobs, investigators would have uncovered a mountain of important information. the faa would have known boeing's production process is where a mess and the safety culture was terrible. the fa could have prevented an ever increasing list of production quality defects. instead, they're surprised each time it occurs, showing how ineffective in reactive they're oversight has become just last month, the faa reported on and commanded roles a max airplanes due to wiring that is being shaped, boeing and fa of known about these manufacturing defects for more than two years and did not inform the public about this

potentially catastrophic condition. there are also canadian reports of new macs, airplanes with chafe wire bundles containing burn marks and evidence of electrical arcing. routine, excuse me boeing routinely states that their airplanes meet or exceed all safety standards. this is untrue and misrepresents the safety, the airplanes, the company illegally removed thousands of quality control inspections on individual airplanes without the faa's knowledge and without the knowledge of the airlines. although many of these inspections have been reinstated, hundreds of airplanes have left boeing factories without those thousands of inspections my last point is the department of justice and fbi relied on the slanted results of the first macs accident investigation to develop an illegal and unjust deferred prosecution agreement the ntsb chair reiterated congress last week that boeing has said there are no records documenting the removal the alaska airlines door. i'm not going to sugar coat this. this is a criminal cover up. records do in fact exist. i know this

because i've personally past them to the fbi a few a five-minute testimony is not nearly enough time to explain how insidious the story is. boeing's corporate leaders continue to conceal the truth. they continue to mislead, deceive the public about the safety of the planes that is the safety culture at the top of the boeing company right now, the good news is the employees are bowing and these agencies can overcome poor leadership. we need them to be successful. they're highly capable, they need to be supported and encouraged. and these problems are fixable but it starts with telling the truth thank you. >> thanks, ms pierson. mr. jacobson thank you, senator my name is joe jacobson. >> i'm an aerospace engineer with almost 40 years of experience. i worked for boeing from 1984 to 1995 on the 767 and triple seven program grams from 1995 to 2021, i worked in aircraft certification at the faa. i retired from the fa in 2021 and have been volunteering

as an independent aviation safety advocates since mostly in supportive the et 302 families on november 6, 2018, a week after the lion air six, ten crash i received an email from a colleague asking you if we had done any issue papers on m cast. >> this was the first day that i heard about mks the next day, although not assigned to the crash investigation, i received an email from a colleague at the faa which contained flight data recorder information from the lion air crash it was immediately obvious to me that the 737 max had a serious design flaw i saw that the horizontal stabilizer was repeatedly moving at a high rate because of a faulty angle of attack input i guess that a software error was responsible few days later i was shocked to discover that the airplane was purposely designed and certified to use just one aoa input for this flight. >> critical function when the

house report was released in september of 2020, i finally understood why i hadn't known about mks boeing meeting minutes from june 2013 recorded the reason saying, if we emphasize the mks is a new function, there may be a greater certification and training impact boeing intentionally hid the design from faa engineers and airline pilots. had we known at least a half-dozen experienced faa engineers in seattle? in seattle office would have immediately rejected the original mks design boeing concealment led to two crashes and 346 deaths after working on the recertification of the max after the second crash, i sent a letter to the parents of sammy's stumo shortly before my retirement in march of 2021 i saw their anger and grief and wanted them to know the true story and not the false

narrative presented by boeing and faa over the last three years, sami, his parents have connected me with many other crash families i frequently communicate with the devastated people who have lost loved ones in the h3n2 crash. i've heard many inspiring stories about those who are lost stories about samya mick, camille, melvin bennett, danielle grazia, ella, and others the recertification of the max has been characterized as the most comprehensive in the history of aviation this is also a false narrative during the recertification of the max faa leadership supported boeing's effort to narrow the scope. two primarily focus on mks mks was a mess for sure but other critical items were off the re-examination table. the max crewe alerting system doesn't

meet current design requirements. and by my count, the old standard has contributed to eight fatal crashes. a boeing aircraft and 885 deaths since 1996 despite this dismal safety record in july 2022 boeing chief safety officer mike delaney stated i personally have no belief that there's any value in changing the 737 ceo, dave calhoun, lobbied further and said, this is a risk. i'm willing to take if i lose the fight or lose the fight. boeing lobbying efforts ultimately succeeded the grandfathered design of this mass leaves many vulnerabilities when combined with a failure to investigate the manufacturing chaos identified nearly six years ago by a pearson this has led to a predictable but still shocking list of unsafe conditions i've

spent almost 40 years studying and trying to eliminate aviation accidents ignoring problems taking shortcuts and deceiving the public just leads to more crashes i'm testifying today out of my great love and respect for the crash. family members that i know michael, nadia nisia, catherine icc chris, javier, and others don't want this to happen to anyone else i also have children and grandchildren what's worked together to fix this. now. thank you thanks, ms pierson. >> mr. virgin ski professor chairman pathology, you ranking member johnson and members of the committee. good morning. and thank you for the opportunity to testify today. i'm an assistant professor in both integrated systems engineering and the center for aviation studies at their state university. prior to teaching at ohio state, i was an airline

pilot during my time teaching at the university, i heard my phd in cognitive systems engineering. although there have been slight variations in the exact definition, one has been safety culture, one that has been used for years, decades, even our shared beliefs, assumptions, and norms, which may govern organizational decision-making, as well as individual and group attitudes about safety in incorrect understanding of safety culture is that it is commonly referred to as a single concept, but rather a consist of four individual specific components, whereas each one provides its own unique actions to the overall concept of safety culture. and without one of these, the element and structure of culture, will fall apart. as such, each serves the greater goal of providing a robust, effective and well proven safety tool for all high-risk industries, especially given it's proven value in aerospace

industries, it should be made clear this culture concept is not only for airline operations, but rather any aerospace operation where risk of injury or death as a possibility to employees, indoor customer for product delivery. this is extremely important in determining an organization's overall safety culture as they are all as they all compliment each other to be successful, organizations may not simply choose or we're going to continue to monitor this really explosive, very important with lettering for the senate homeland security and governmental affairs subcommittee on investigations going on on potential threats from boeing. and we're hearing some pretty devastating testimony under oath. hi, these former boeing executives pete muntean, are aviation correspondence been watching all of this unfold. this is amazing and it's very scary. these guys who all worked at boeing, they're whistleblowers. they're now saying that when boeing says

they have met safety standards at pierson said that is untrue. when when boeing leaders say that, they or others or concealing the truth, joe jacobson said that bowing seems to be concealing the truth and it goes on and on and on. give us your assessment. there have been whistleblower accounts after a whistleblower accounts which has brought a lot about boeing's safety culture for to light the latest one. >> we heard from sam salehpour, who was a quality engineer on the boeing 787 line, that plane manufactured in charleston, south carolina. and he essentially said that that plane is not safe, that the joining of the fuselage, main portions of that structure, the gaps for too large. and so he is a sorted a newly just last week that those gaps have become too big and the plane could theoretically fall apart and flight boeing has been very much on the defensive leading up to this hearing, knowing that it would be relatively explosive, there's a lot of

rehashed here, not only about the issues with the mks system on board the 7307 max that caused those two fatal crashes in 2018 and 2019, that led to the killing of 346 people on board, but also, there is a new allegation here about the the door plug on board, the 7307 max because nine which led to its grounding for about 20 days in the and now there's this issue with the 787. this is what sam salehpour said to this senate committee just now i found gaps exceeding that that were not properly address 98.7% of the time. i want to repeat that, 98.7% of the time, the gaps that they were supposed to be shimmed, they will not shim the issue here. >> boeing's says is that some of the tolerances on these pieces of the fuselage on board the 73787, excuse me are so so

tight we're talking five one thousands of an edge. that is the width of essentially these two sheets of paper or the width of a human hair. boeing's as in some cases, that that's not all that necessary and may have been too extreme in some cases. so it's allowed itself a little bit of leeway on board these clients, boeing insisted in this press briefing that i was on on monday, that its 787 is not at risk of falling apart and flight and it has no evidence of fatigue failure on board. its plans to very strong airplane made of carbon fiber, stronger than the aluminum structure that has been used in older airplanes. this is the statement from boeing though on the record it says were fully confident in the 787 dreamliner, these claims about the structural integrity of the 787 are inaccurate. a boeing also says it has done work to ensure the quality and long term safety of the aircraft. so another huge de, when it comes to the safety concerns about boeing here, this one is about quality control issues that was

the issue on board the 7307 max-9 boeing came forward and said that was an issue. this is something that boeing and says is not the case when it comes to the seven, eight seven, although we will see is this hearing plays out, what the response from bone will be pretty pretty devastating. i i've heard a lot of testimony over the years of airline executives, but this seems to be the most potentially, potentially alarming pete standby for a moment, i want to bring him the former faa safety inspector and cnn safety analysts. did david soucie. david, thanks so much for joining us boeing as you know, as you just heard, a strongly denied the whistleblower's allegations, calling the claims are inaccurate, but the company has also had several issues with other planes, other of his planes, including the 7307 max. give us your analysis on what's going on well, as pete said too, about the fit up of the seven at seven, i want to do address that first before the press conference, i spoke with the engineers at boeing about what this means and like

he said, like peaches said, it's the width of a human hair and the fit up, which is where you put the two pieces together and then you measure to see, you put a feeler gauge in there and you see and again, it's by one thousands of an inch to see if it fits to that close. >> and they do they fit that properly? the second piece, which i think is the biggest concern is the fact that as they drill the holes to attach that, there are pieces are shards of aluminum between that fit up. so then they do that. what we'd call the pull-up. and that's what i think that the whistle-blower is referring to. is that that didn't meet the meet up a first, the fit up before they did the pull-up. so what he's saying is that that could cause some problems now, understand, i've worked on assembly lines many times in my life. i've worked for the faa as an inspector to inspect these processes and personally, i really think that he's correct that it did not meet those standards before the fit

up, but after you do the pull up and those shards are pushed together i, currently don't see a problem with what's happening right now with the seven at seven, i don't think these things are going to fall apart. he said potentially in theoretically, they could fall apart or crack i don't see that risk honestly in my opinion, but that's just my opinion, we'll have to see what the engineers say about this as they go forward in the investigation we now find out, i'm sure, but david, is there a culture problem with boeing right now? is that problem the culture there absolutely. >> there's been a culture problem there for a long, long time, wolffian and i think everybody in the world knows that at this point, we're gonna get this report back from the faa and they're going to tell us what they think about it, but it's clear that there's there's a culture problem there and i attributed to one thing and that is that the mission statement and the vision statement of boeing for the last ten years, did not have the word safety in it. the mission statement, the vision statement thing that every employee at boeing, every employee on the line assembling aircraft needs to know that

these have a direct line of sight to what their goals poland objective is. and that is safety. they have quality, they have production, they have leadership, they have all of the other things that corporations want to see in their vision statement. but they don't have is what we want to see on a manufacturing line, which is that word, safety, safety needs to be the driving force, the shining star that everyone goes toward. and that's what's been missing a boeing, they need to find a ceo that will carry that message forward. make sure everyone sees that and understands their role in that company. >> yeah, we all fly. so this is also worrisome very quickly before i let you go peep the faa has just announced that its grounding all alaska airlines flights nationwide hi at the airlines request, we're learning that this has now ended. this was an issue that alaska airlines had behind the scenes with calculating the weight and balance of planes before they take off. and so the airline, as the faa, to issue a ground stop for all of its flights, there's one into

place about 10:30 eastern in time ended about 11:30 eastern time. so things are going to get back to normal, although we know typically after one of these grounds is abs has issued, this can cause things a bit of a ripple effect and the deck of cards can come tumbling down for an airline usually, when at last the short, it's not a huge reverb, but we will see as the day goes on, we'll those planes, boeing jets, a lot of those are 7307 max 9s they have all sorts of other types too. this doesn't really connect to the boeing issue, but they did ground 7307 max 9s during that grounding, they were impacted by those worrisome as well. >> all right. pete muntean. thank you very much, david soucie. thanks to you as well. it we'll be right back with more news. >> do you want to close out should i normally, i'd hold but taking the games as smart here, right? feel more competent. what's dog ratings from jp morgan analysts in the chase app, when you've got a decision to make, the answer is jpmorgan wealth managed that

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hill, the president and board members of columbia university are testifying about the rise of anti-semitism and the growing tensions on college campuses due to the israel war. here's a part of the testimony, at least so far antisemitism has no place on our campus. and i am personally committed to doing everything i can to confront it directly trying to reconcile the free-speech rights of those who wanted to protest. and the rights of jewish students to be in an environment free of discrimination and harassment has been the central challenge on our campus and numerous others across the country. >> will it work? there have been periods in history when anti-semitism is in abeyance, and they were characterized by enlightened leadership, inclusive cultures, and clarity about rights and obligations those are the values i cherish and that i am determined to bring to columbia joining us now, jonathan greenblatt, he's the ceo or national director of

the anti-defamation league, the adl jonathan, thanks so much for joining us as you well know, as all of us know, a few months ago, college presidents from harvard, mit and the university of pennsylvania, i'll face national scrutiny, script de, over this specific issue. and now columbia university officials are unequivocally say that calls for the genocide of jews violate their code of conduct. are you satisfied lately so far with today's testimony from what you've heard well, i will say a few things. wolf number one, i am pleased to see congress using its oversight authority and holding college presidents and university officials accountable to ensuring that all students irrespective of their faith or their ethnicity are texted and supported on their campuses secondly, i was glad to see president should fix op-ed in the wall street journal yesterday, i've seen her site adl data already this morning,

and i just appreciate her acknowledging what seems to me a pretty basic fact that some of her colleagues failed at in december that calling for the genocide against jews or any group of people is incompatible with university's values. but i think ultimately what we will judge, president should 50k in colombia, not just on what she says, but on what she does it was good earlier or late last year when they suspended what of the pro hamas groups on campus, they must continue to enforce their policies at columbia to make sure that all their students are safe and beyond that jonathan, what additional what other steps do you want to see columbia university and other universities for that matter? >> take to keep jewish, muslim, arab students on campus safe. >> well, let's be clear that anti-semitism specifically is an exploding problem on all these campuses, we released our audit yesterday of incidents in 2023, nearly 750 on these

campuses last year. that is a massive increase over the previous year. >> so yes, all students irrespective of how they pray or where they worshiped, need to be safe. >> and yet anti-semitism is a clear and present danger in these places. so what should they do? what we released a report card last week grading the schools, including columbia, which unfortunately got an de what should it do? number one, add anti-semitism to the dei trainings that you offer all the students. number two, simply enforce the rules and if students insight violence against their peers, they should be suspended. number three, time and place for protests. you should be able to exercise your freedom of speech. you should be able to say highly controversial things. but if your idea of liberating palestine involves passing students walking to hillel or spinning on jewish just kids wearing a jewish star necklace. i'm sorry, doesn't

belong at columbia or anywhere else for that matter i quickly want to ask you about the very controversial decision by the university of southern california. >> the decision to cancel its muslim valedictorian speech at this year's graduation ceremony. university of southern california's said, and i'm quoting now to be clear, this decision has nothing to do with freedom of speech. there is no free-speech entitlement to speak at a commencement. the issue here is how best to maintain campus security and safety period and quote, cnn spoke to the student last night to jonathan. i want you to listen to her response to this controversial decision i think the thing that is at the core of this is that it's not about my speech, right? and reinstating my speech is only part of the battle here. i think something more important to consider is the implications and the social commentary behind this decision. and what it points to in terms of

university's values creating, creating an environment in which i'm revoked by my speech privileges com i'm going to the university's commitment to academic security, academic integrity, and academic discourse the valedictorian. >> now you concerned by the university of southern california's decision, jonathan, i gave you a c and a on this decision, wolf. the fact that this woman is there's a muslim has nothing to do with it. they have asked her not to speak because if you look at our actual statements, she calls, for example, for the destruction of the state of israel. she says, for example, that the zionism to which so many of her jewish classmates you don't believe in is an ideology of racism and other things that are just not true. so let's be clear like i think the university is doing the right thing and saying our speakers at are on our platform that we choose to elevate should represent all of our students and this woman clearly

does not represent all of usc but she's the valedictorian and there are other vowels usually usually speak at these commencements appearances, but again, if you violate the values of the institution, you have to face the consequences. she's entitled to her views. she's not entitled to a stage let her give her speech, standing on a soapbox on the corner of the street. that's where she can exercise her her rights to free expression. jonathan greenblatt are the adl. thanks very much for joining us, easley, a sensitive subject indeed. and to our viewers. thanks very much for joining me here in the cnn newsroom. i'm wolf blitzer. i'll be back later tonight's 6:00 p.m. eastern. in the situation room stay with us inside politics with dana bash starts right now