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schools turned to the police to crack down. >> plus i'm a grown man running against a six year-old president biden getting under dome, trump's skin a little bit seems with his speech at the white house correspondents dinner and a state of emergency in oklahoma, four people killed by tornadoes with millions more. >> now facing potentially deadly storms right? >> 6:00 a.m. here in washington, he's alive. look at the white house now the sun comes up in time for the top of 6:00 a.m. good morning, everyone. i'm kasie hunt. it's wonderful. >> to have you with us. >> we begin with colleges across the country struggling to contain increasingly violent campus protests at ucla on sunday, pro and pro-palestinian protesters breached a barrier that was set up between them and they clapped hashed with several fights breaking out.

>> there were no arrests were similar scenes of chaos on sunday from coast to coast, protesters clashing with police as more schools turn to law enforcement to try to regain control of their campuses. >> and this, of course, is an ongoing issue for president biden, a new cnn poll indicating just how unhappy people are with his handling of the israel-hamas war. seven out of ten americans disapprove. and when you dig into that polling by age, it gets more problematic for the president. eight out of ten americans age 18 to 34 disapprove and losing younger voters in november would be difficult to overcome for the president. and of course, the white house is paying attention now the president knows that there are very strong feelings georgia about the war in gaza. he understands that he respects that has, he has said many times we certainly respect the right of peaceful protest on sunday, president biden spoke with israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu. >> their conversation was focused on negotiations for a hostage deal. and the potential

invasion of rafah. our panels here, former federal prosecutor, cnn legal analyst elliot williams, mac mormon pharmacy, new advisor tim scott's presidential campaign and former white house communications director kate bedingfield. good morning to you all. it's great. >> you, kate, i'm going to have to start with you here. >> i will say that when i talked to folks at the white house, what they'll say back when when confronted with all of this is that this issue while clearly very emotional, is not usually listed for most people at the top of the list in terms of what they are concerned about when you see these scenes spreading across let's the country, how do you see the challenge for the white house and what should they be doing new approach this, yeah, i'm look, it is excuse me. >> it is an issue for them because this election is going to be very close. we know that any issue that is destabilising to the democratic base is inherently problematic for the biden campaign. >> i will say though they certainly talk about this isn't an issue that's at the top of the minds of most americans. >> and i think there is some truth to that in the sense that these images obviously are can

be very startling and there's clearly passionate both sides, but they're also happening on college campuses, largely on elite college campuses in the country. and so it is a slice of the country where you're we're getting. i would say probably outsized media attention for what's going on on these college campuses. it is not impacting the day-to-day lives of the average american voter across the country. again, that does not mean that it's not an issue that doesn't mean that it isn't that the protests aren't worthy in the sense that there are legitimate, there's a legitimate when the crisis happening in the middle east. it is hard to see how even a crisis in the middle east becomes the predominant driver in an election in november. so i think what the biden team has to do is president biden has to continue to express concern and has to continue to push the israeli government to get humanitarian aid and he's got to be clean here are the he feels and understands the pain that these people are dealing with. but i do think there's some truth to the idea that

this is not going to be the sole driver of the election in november. so the other obviously, the particularly nasty side of these protests as the anti-semitism that we are seeing crop up at some of them. >> this was john fetterman and actually on news nation, this is something he has been very focused on in spoken, very pretty directly and sharply about watch his latest it's very clear that there is a very germ of anti-semitism in all of these protests. >> and then sometimes it flares up. of course it's a great american value to protest, but i don't believe living in a pop-up tent for hamas is really helpful. >> let me make mormon pump ten for hamas. that's quite, i mean take thanks, john i think you see this sometimes to where it contributes to a sense of there's a burden on the people being kind of again.

>> so what i'll say by essentially is this people are paying $70,000 a year to go these elite institutions, very good institutions. >> and they're the ones getting a lot of times these threats. >> i think what you're seeing is a little bit of a pushback on. there's a right to protest. it's a right to speak your mind. certainly, but certainly not to be threatened against and to be paying and some some amount of money to do it as well. >> and i think that $70,000 point is a big one because of the fact that this is all tied to quote, unquote thea weights in america, right? when you have kids that are protesting, it's an easy target on these campuses if you notice the start at the ivy league columbia university of harvard, and so on and in many respects, it's a it's a great political issue because of the fact that university presidents don't have a ton of options here for what they can do they can technically start kicking kids out, but that starts getting dangerous when you start waiting into how to police speech. and so on. and so it is a winter and is going to continue to be yeah, i'm going to steal this out from under it. okay. no, you're fine because it makes your point

here. so new york post, which of course first is often trying to take the anti-align. yeah, tact says harvard has fallen, right? they have a palestinian flag flying where they say a us flag. normally has. i mean, it's sort of it encapsulates they're like exactly what you're saying and no disrespect to any other universities if it were lafayette university, it would not make cover. it exactly and this is the kind of the point i was making earlier. i mean, this is you're looking at the most elite institutions which are have a storied history of protests that has driven social change. and but ultimately for the average person around the country, or they concerned, are they thinking about what's happening on the campus at columbia or harvard? they're not. and so i just think there is a precisely because we're talking about these elite institutions that command media attention from a lot of people in the media who attended those instances we should say. and let's remember that there is a higher percentage of people in basis who have attended these university exactly, exactly.

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evidence tells a story how really hammered jesse l. >> martin, sunday's at nine on cnn charney is 24 election's in full swing and yes, age is an issue i'm a grown man running against a six year-old age is the only thing we have in common my vice president actually endorses me president biden roasting donald trump over the weekend and the white house correspondents, dinner journalists, celebrities, and politicians, all gathering in dc for what college host colin jost referred to as nerd prom. it's a school nickname for the van't the snl star was the headliner. >> and he did make some jokes at both donald trump and joe biden's expense i would like to point out it's after 10:00 p.m. sleepy joe is still awake

while donald trump has spent the past week falling asleep in court every morning, my weekend update co-anchored michael che was going to join me here tonight. >> but in solidarity with president biden i didn't i decided to lose all my black support panel is back with us full disclosure. >> i was at the dinner there elliott, what what do you make it a joke actually people don't realize it's a historically really tough gig. >> to work that room because when you think about when stand-up comics come up, it's not intimate. they're not close to the stage. you have half of the audience really doesn't want to laugh because as journalists will i appear partisan if i bust out laughing at a joke at joe biden's, are donald trump's expense with an air of stuffing that's in the room to some extent, too. and i think he did relatively well. that was a good joke. regardless of the partisan bent

of it. the simple fact is racism underlying factor in the presidential campaign. and he skewered it journalists, celebrities, politicians, three people that can three groups america loves. finally, in a room black really going to laughing it themselves. oh, yeah. >> yeah. yeah speaking of lead i would say the president's speech was actually a little bit more political than we often hear from presidents in that he sort of took the end of the speech to make a rather serious point about the contrast between the president and his reelection and donald trump in terms of democracy. >> yeah, and what does it stake in this election? there were some critics who say that that was, that was too much for that venue, but when you do consider donald trump never went to the correspondents dinner and he calls the free press the enemy of the people, right? >> if you critics of donald

trump will look at autocratic tendencies and say that the preska, a lot to do with that. yeah. what do you make of the fact that the president took that serious tone? the end of the well, he had an opportunity and i think you had a room full of 2,600 people. the vast majority of journalists who are covering the presidential race from washington and new york. so he had a captive audience. i think he almost almost had a responsibility in some ways to talk about the stakes and to really lay out what he he views. the the fundamental and existential question of this race, which is our, is our democracy going to continue on next year? are we going to be able to have a white house correspondents dinner where a comedian can get up and joke and make jokes at the president's expense and we should be get her off through the trump administration if they did, they did, but i think you've heard you've heard donald trump use all sorts of incredibly threatening language and you also, those those correspondence centers all happened prior to january 6.

>> and so i think there's a there's a seriousness there. so i think what president biden was doing was taking the opportunity with all of those people in the room to say yes, this is their jokes. and let's have a fun night, but there are real stakes here. >> one thing i was really struck by at the end, i don't know if we have the clip of it, but colin jost ended with a speech about his grandfather, who was my own fire man and just building to the crescendo of saying that my grandfather supported you, mr. president, because you're a decent man and it was it was an interesting point because its look at it's sort of a partisan point is in front of all it's become one. >> but that's that's the point, right? and it's sort of he's speaking about an individual's character, but in an audience and in the middle of a presidential campaign, it has an air of partisan some ship but it's actually just speaking about character and where the point at which simply stating facts about candidates veers into the world of being a political, i have to say i was thinking, actually, your kids

are of the age or you might have to do this, just figuring out how to talk to your kids about the trial that trump is on i'm sorry. >> i don't want you to read it like i was talking to a friend who said, oh, i was really hoping that my seven-year-old didn't ask me like dad, what's hush money. >> like dad was a porn star right? >> like that's kind of a character question. >> i mean, look, let's go back the white house correspondents dinner in many ways gave rise of modern era of trump in 2011 with obama said that dinner saturday, okay? >> the crowd. >> i didn't realize that but as we know, trump was there. he was guest at the table being mocked to his face by obama and whoever the comedian was, i forgot the time and look, i think some that's a little bit revisionist history. i don't think a dinner making fun of was the thing that actually was a lynchpin of the god of the race. because if you remember, he didn't run in 12, he ran in obviously 15 and 16, but trump has the worst response. you're in trouble. it's kind of special weird connection, but that exact reason the same night that they were going through the osama bin laden raid. >> i mean, i i was in the room for that. i actually spoke to

spend some time speaking to donald trump on the way to my table and then we could all see honestly his hair was what you can see and i'll be honest with you, man, i take your point. there were other things that made him run. but every time i underestimate, like the human, things that make people do what they do. i mean, i think that that joke really stuck with trump. and i've been allowed him level of control because if you remember 12, he first want to be debate moderator remember that, and then he wanted more of a process. >> very interesting. all right? coming up. next here, a deadly outbreak of tornadoes across oklahoma with more states facing severe weather, right now. >> plus republican senator lindsey graham telling cnn, he's willing to help president biden on a key issue this would be an historic agreement building on the abraham accords. >> and i'd like to see it happen cnn central today and set strict we handcraft every stearns and foster using the finest materials like indulgent memory foam and ultra conforming and telecoil for a

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between saudi arabia and israel that agreement could be transformative in a region embroiled in that controversial war and conflict between is an a broader conflict between israel and iran. >> graham also said that the deal would have the port of the gop and maybe even it's presidential nominee, donald trump what is donald trump? >> think about this, be worried, he'll kill it or tried to kill it but you know, i've talked to president trump not very long ago. he wants the killing to end. he would like to see peace reign if we can get a deal between saudi arabia and israel, it ends the arab-israeli conflict. it isolates the iranians. it creates some hope for the palestinians. it provides security in a real way to israel. yeah, i don't thank anybody on the republican side is going to undercut the deal i tried to me now, it's gonna chief political correspondent and the co-host, cnn's state of the union. >> dana bash. good morning. good morning. wonderful to have you you and i are a little running low on gas so much but

you actually had to be nine in the morning this is a great interview, i guess my question here around graham is is this really possible right now because this normalization pact was basically on its way to going into effect when october 7 happen. and obviously, it was totally derailed at tom friedman had a common in the new york times over the weekend where he said, israel has a choice to me fake rafah or riyad. he says us diplomacy to end the gaza war and forge a new relationship with saudi arabia has been converging into a single giant choice for netanyahu. what do you want more? do you want rafah or riyad at what do you make of how graham kinda put this to you in the politics of that. but also this bigger picture geopolitical question. well, a couple of things. first of all, there's little question in the minds of anybody who really knows the region and has insight into what happened on october 7. is that a big reason for october 7 was to derail the saudi at what was on it was on the cost of actually happening

the saudi israel normalization because we know that hamas is funded by iran. iran doesn't want that. and so on and so forth. talking about geopolitics but i thought that what let me just also take a step back that lindsey graham has been working on this for a very long time. he's been decided your rabia more than once. in recent months? he has been very much in touch with the biden administration trying to help them get this done. and so part of the reason i asked him was because the secretary of state is there and they are they are it's maybe even i wouldn't say now or never, but it's pretty important for them to do it because lindsey graham is so close with donald trump my question that you played at the end there about trump was also i was thinking about i don't know what the immigration deal and anything else that he could perceive as a win for joe biden, whether he would say the other way that graham frame that was well, this is a win predominate trump. why? because he said

this is just building on what he did with the abraham accords so watching the sort of political, the ego richer coracle jiu-jitsu exactly to try direct way to say it yeah. >> kate, what do you think? >> where do you think the biden ministration comes in on this in terms of me clearly tony blinken as dana notes, is there in riyadh. >> it seems like this would be a positive step for them and they've been trying to convince netanyahu not to go into rafah. >> yeah and these larger normalization accord is something that's been a priority for the administration. >> it's something the national security team has been focused on and as dana said, they were really on the cost before october over seven. so this is a huge priority for them and i think i certainly don't speak for them. i won't speak for them, but i would imagine they will accept anybody's help on this. and if lindsey graham wants to be helpful and wants to help try to bring the republican conference on this. then i'm sure they would welcome that. so ultimately, i think if they were able to get this done it would it would

certainly be an incredible talking point in the election in terms of what president biden said about being able to reassert kind of american interests on the world stage and be able to lead in that way, it would be a powerful proof point for him. this is something that i think he would really be able to throw his arms around and take credit for it. in the fall but i think again, the domestic politics are going to be very thorny and i will i hope that senator graham was was being forthright about where he'll be on this. i think if the rubber meets the road, i'm a little less certain. let's find out. he's gonna do lindsey, let's my right hand hey let's so the other you mentioned the politics of this at-home being tough and dana, you had bernie sanders on as well. and here's what he had to say when dana a pushed him on protests and everything else that's been going on on this issue. watch do i doubt for a moment and anti-semitism exists his growing in the united states. that is part that exist among

some people in the protest movement. of course but here is the reality right now. what net right-wing extremist and racist government is doing is unprecedented in the modern history of warfare right now we are looking at the possibility of mass starvation and famine in gaza when you make those charges, that is not anti symmetric, that is a reality jenna, were you surprised to use the word racist there when he was talking about the israeli government no. i'm not because i've i've sort of seen the evolution of what bernie sanders and others have said. and i just want to say that what is fascinating about bernie sanders and part of the reason why it was really pressing him on the anti semitism is because unlike other leading progressives, he doesn't say genocide. he doesn't, he's very, very careful with how he tries to frame and inject that very

difficult nuance right into this having said that, i do and this is very difficult. i think the one of the most difficult things is what? senator sanders said. there is you can be against the israeli government without being anti-semitic. that is 100% i mean, there are people marching in the streets of israel who are jewish, who are very, very right of, of israel's right. exist. yes the issue is, and i said this to him. when you have college kids or just even people now beyond the campuses who are walking around one student i know from michigan text-only saying he took off his star of david necklace because he was too scared for his security. nobody's asked it's getting him. what do you think about the way that israel is prosecuting the war? they just

see his star of david and they go after him. >> so can we talk for a second about elliot you were looking up that kind of the definition, the way that these universities define harassment because there is obviously an absolute right first amendment right to protest in this country. >> but for someone who's wearing a star of david necklace and having to kind of walk through these protests, where is the line where it becomes not okay? where is it you are being like is it people like stopping your forward progress or the yelling and you're for me, what is it? >> and this is exactly where frankly my alma mater is. president was mcgill, university of pennsylvania's stepped in it in front of congress by stating the legal definition, which is where the behavior becomes so sufficiently severe and pervasive as to alter the conditions of the environment, right now, that's tricky legal language, but it can't just be necessarily that you feel scared for someone has to be doing something that actually impedes your ability to learn

your ability to go to school or your ability to enjoy your existence and so on. now, where's the line between simply making somewhat uncomfortable? actually getting substantively in their way. and in fact columbia's policy and my other alma mater, them, their policy says every time on every category, this is not intended to include language that just makes people uncomfortable, right yeah. >> no, for sure your alma mater and mine as well. gw has suddenly been dealing with this. they put out a statement in the last 24 hours in a cabinet on university yard, which is kind of right in the center. and now some kids have moved into h street, middle of the street in dc. they say here, free expression and activism are not unlimited. the encampment on the yard, it clearly violates are clueless we defined rules of conduct and behavior. they do say there have been no incidents of violence but they did say the determination was made. students who remain in the encampment would be placed on temporary suspension and administratively barred from campus. and i will say among my

wish should say gw is a university with a very large population of jewish students, many of whom i was became friends with when i know many of my my friends when i was at college come from that. and so this picture, i want to show this picture that circulated on twitter from a conservative reporter, but it shows one of the signs that's been on this university and you can see it has the israeli flag and the words final solution, which is of course a reference to murdering all jews. now you can also see to the right it's a little bit difficult to read. but there seems to be what looks like a student who's got a jewish student who says jews against genocide. he's not waiving that, right. so i recognize that, right. students on gw saying jews against genocide, but that final, like i cannot believe that that that poster that says final solution was on the campus of the place where i went to school yeah. >> i just when you see this, what should they be doing is gw doing enough as an example like this is the thing that i can't, i can't get my head around

there. it is. that's a little bigger. >> the the relatively new president of gw just taking it as an example, has been more aggressive and calling out this kind of stuff than others have been. >> for sure. look, it's difficult because i mean, like you were saying putting up a sign that says final solution is disgusting, is absolutely no question about hating jews. >> nothing to do with the conflict in israel and gaza but this has become so seeped into the protest movement that it's hard to separate and that's why we have to call it out and to be extremely careful and frankly, a question some of what is going on here beyond just understandable right to

protest, right to free speech, and an anger about the way that israel is prosecuting the war. >> all right, dana bash. de, thank you. deal to have you really appreciate it. i want up next here, new cnn polling on the state of the race right now between president biden, donald trump down from up talking about it, plus major league baseball, they're trying to fix this. we'll just, we'll just call it an embarrassing issue with what the pants you may have noticed the temper peter, breeze, make sleep, feel cool. and comfortable. so no more sweating all night or blasting the air conditioning because the temperature breeze pulls heat away from your body. >> so address feels up to ten degrees cooler all night long. >> we just signed the lease on our third shop. my assistant went accustoming.com to get new uniforms with all the locations he found great products, uploaded new art, and had boxes sent to all the shops. customer makes it so easy. get started today at accustoming.com life

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thing standing between the people of gaza and a ceasefire is hamas that's before he is slated to meet with leaders in the region to discuss where ceasefire and hostage talks stand. >> florida's six-week abortion ban takes effect this week, the state has been a vital resource for women across the south who can't access care in the states where they live. the ban could be overturned if 60% of florida voters approved a constitutional amendment when it's on the ballot in november donald trump meeting with florida governor ron desantis in miami on sunday. a source telling cnn it was the first time the two men have spoken since desantis ended his bid for the republican nomination and endorsed trump, donald trump could use some of that desantis money major league baseball addressing a major wardrobe malfunction, the pants that players where will be modified before next season. >> why you can see through them especially when they are sweaty

transparency, good for politics, bad for baseball matt his pants. you baseball fans in baseball fan the uniforms are ugly and their do this, but there's exactly dance are transparent and then the letters on the back that the named are too small is a money grab. i miss the old 90s units jersey, fan. i sweat, it, just it's not a good re-brand. they've done across the league. i'm on board. >> yeah. i think if i were one, i know there was a purply a revolt. >> all right let's go now, let's turn back though, to the race for the white house community. >> colin joe's talked about it over the weekend, much the republican candidate for president owes half 1 billion in fines for bank fraud and is currently spending his days farting himself awake during a porn star hush money trial. >> and the race is tie it might've been a joke, but he

is right. the race is very close. a new cnn poll shows donald trump barely in the lead and a head-to-head match against president biden. and if we dig into the numbers, we see that part of trump's edge is what looks to be increasing nostalgia for his time in office. more than half of americans say trump's one-term president let's see, it was a success. just 39% of americans say the same about president biden's current term and of course, we've got trump up this morning writing good pull numbers from cnn of all places against the worst president in the history of the united states parentheses by far, and parentheses how much of this mat is i mean, there are literally biological reasons why your body doesn't remember bad things with time? yes but obviously, people who are looking at president being in office right now, they're not happy with him, but they were not happy with trump when he was actually leaving the office. >> what's going on? hey, for different reasons, right. i think i think people felt good a blob, but about the economy during the trump years and they do, they do right now, they pay, they pay less of bank

cards for loop, a little more stable, and you're right, this is a trend we're seeing a pretty consistent, small, but consistent trump lead here and you're seeing the economy, which again, the two of the top three issues according to the poll help republican. candidate immigration and the economy certainly you have democracy was number two issue. obviously have the issue of abortion, how that plays in motivating people to the polls. but i mean, things are sitting issue wise and also pulling momentum wise for trump to continue i think the other interesting thing in this poll though, if you look under the hood, is there is more room for growth for biden with his base than there is with trump. then there's for trump with his base. and so what that means is biden. if you look at the head-to-head and they're roughly tied but biden has room to grow with his base will then there's opportunity there. now that's not to say he's gotten if you flip it around, you could also say, are problems with this and trump does. you could, but if you could, but if you're running a presidential campaign, you're looking for where my growth opportunities,

where do i invest money? what am i, how do i, how do i expand? and so that if i were the biden campaign painting, i'm looking at that pole. that's the instructive piece of the pole for them. that's the action item for them. >> and the action i think for trump is i want appeal some of those biden voters ofs, particularly minority voters, latinos, african american men, the people who eat either voted for biden previously or didn't vote at all. i mean, back during the obama years the republicans were the ones we'll always have come out in midterm elections and had trouble the presidential years that dynamic is flipped. so now the burden is on us to get those people who haven't voted in a couple of years out when trump's on the ballot. so that to the point that colin jost raise that started this all but he used the term porn star, hush money, trial or whatever. >> it's what he left out there was falsifying business records to hide romantic affairs. we've gotten so desensitized to the silliness and some of the madness that lost on thursday was the fact that that wasn't even the biggest legal story affecting that person, that they donald trump is at the

center of so much madness that we've just become desensitized to it. that's down effect i think the point was that the salaciousness of that particular trial is just kinda puts a finer point on how cradling with there was also this over the weekend, one of donald trump's possible vice presidential picks facing some backlash. >> this is an excerpt from an upcoming book, south dakota governor kristi noem. >> she explained how she shot and killed her 14 month-old puppy named cricket in an excerpt from the book obtained by the guardian noem described the puppy as untrainable, dangerous to anyone. >> she came in contact with and less than worthless as a hunting dog. >> she then went went on to write, quote, i hated that dog. >> now know ms defending her actions as responsible. she wrote on social media, quote, the fact is south dakota law states dogs who attack and kill livestock can be put down given the cricket had shown aggressive behavior, told people by biting them, i decided what i did the panel is

back, i have to say this story just made me incredibly sad mad, mean, like it's there have been some notes about life on a farm. it's it can be different. those of us who live here in the urban centers and et cetera, this is not something i've ever encountered in my own life. i've actually talked to some people who perhaps to try to figure out like, is this normal, is this not historically, dogs that hurt chickens, chickens, or food you don't do that, but we don't live in a time where she didn't have the option to put out an ad in the paper and say or at leno called friends, we look, where can i find another home for this dog? >> like i mean, what what's up with kristi noem pick a tail, let's take a step back. >> before this. i thought she was a very good on paper candidate to bdp. obviously, we just talked about abortion, having a woman on the, on the ticket would certainly help things. but you're right. if you are now even the other party, if you're some of her possible vice-presidential rival fighting with each other? yeah. exactly. right. so yeah, you're putting this out as

well. one other thing i would say is you know, elie, you kind of broke down the hush money and what it really means, this is something, this is a story is pretty easy to explain in a sentence, people can understand it, it can break through true your parents. your model might not follow politics that closely can understand it pretty clearly. and that's the danger if you're kristi noem, this can break through and define her away. >> if you if you were on day three, day four of explaining your literal lot on friday the murder pop aside. we're not winning. >> i mean, i just it is everything about the story. yes. absolutely. life on a farm. i'm not i don't live in a rural area but even in the way she tells the story in her own book, by the way, this isn't like somebody leaking on her trying to land a hit. like this is how she described the store in own book. but like i hated that dog and then i mean i just it is troubling and again, i just go back to like if you were on day four of explaining your puppy murder, you're not winning. >> so frankly, i'd love to ask

the politics people, my cynical question is, did someone find out about the story and that she had to just preempt it by putting it out there so other people didn't raise it first she still has this is really a win way to do. this was her positive framing of what she thought was a negative hit coming down the track. it she did not that just doesn't make any say she tried to like i mean, so donald trump famously hates dogs. >> he will talk, he'll use the phrase like so-and-so should be shot like a dog, like is that she's trying to appeal directly to him i don't aggressive language didn't shrink, so i don't think i mean, i can't get inside your head, but you're right. >> i mean, this isn't a book. this went by multiple editors and this was written months ago, was we i mean, i'm like, this isn't something that was just off the cuff. you remember when mitt romney the hole, shaimaa is dog thing happened off the cuff at a fundraiser with his son the dog was, family dog who has traveled on a family vacation in a crate on top of the car? yes. it became a huge problem from it. it was it was off the cuff. it wasn't written in a book edited for

months in advance. yeah. >> and again, is it trying to look tough for a present for a president who values toughness and she's a female now candidates, look, i'm just trying here. this is reprehensible and it's hard to explain how someone, so there's gotta be an entry. >> look like trump, trump hates dogs, fine, but more than that, trump also hates losing, right? and so now you've, she's made herself essentially like radioactive by telling this story in this way. and people across the span, across the political spectrum are rightly horrified because it's essentially it's like animal cruelty. and she's bragging about it. so i i don't that's where i got stuck. >> like if i can like holding this up as like an a grade and it wasn't and she doesn't present it like it was this horrible choice that i had to make. >> i mean, she in her leg day two of trying to clean it up where she tweeted like, we love our animal moles and we had three horses that were lived with us for 25 years that we just had to put down that's a different kind of story than like aggressively bragging

about murdering a 14-year-old, 14 month-old puppy, right. okay so i've us enough i've had enough of the puppy murder. i would like to go to this, which is funny things that are not about politics highlights from the white house correspondents dinner that yes, we're not political lauren's that even more communities and actors joke about me like the funny guy and weekend update michael shay scarlet johanson, you did such an incredible job in your state of the union rebuttal. >> clearly you're the funding one family thank you, kelly, for that very kind introduction. mr. president. dr. biden, vice president harris doug doug, as you can tell from all the comments about my wife, i'm also used to being the second gentleman i want to thank my wife for enduring lots of jokes and for agreeing to individually meet everyone in this room right

after the ceremony that's really special, honey. thank you don't be shy. come right up. she hates privacy scarlet, diana was a good sport as was doug emhoff. >> can i just like all these other people got titles and it was just dug. >> celebrities come with his dinner. i feel so bad like in a fishbowl with bad all iid random hill staffers getting bad selfies with them, i guess. it's like, why why do they ought, why? >> did they come to the dinner. >> what i know, yeah, because they love politics. they're fascinated by they love power. it's i think, i think there's also probably an element of like looking into the fishbowl. it's like this weird world and washington like let me go witnesses are far less i would think you're not of this world. >> you'd probably find it fascinated by it. >> yeah, yeah. >> well, we're happy to have you. yeah. thank you for comin