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america's role as a leading supporter. both of civil rights and a free speech for decades or-awn has been the us and israel's strongest adversary in the middle east, iran and israel recently trading direct military blows for the first time i went to a press conference of the iranian foreign ministry, the spokesman saying, tech ron believes global opinion is now shifting their way jost caught on like opinion of the world and free thinkers of the world will not tolerate this genocide and they're loud voice won't be silenced. he said, and through police actions and violent crackdown policies, they cannot silence the voice of those that protest against this crime and genocide tehran, ripping into the us as the protesters on american campuses demand schools divest from israel and want the biden administration to pressure israel to stop its attacks from cnn to rob thanks
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for joining us, the news continues now, right here on cnn happening now, breaking news, campus unrest boils over as colleges across the united states attempt to crack down protests against the israel, hamas war. police confronting and arresting demonstrators at the university of texas at austin. i'm in new york, columbia university announced again has begun suspending students who defied an ultimatum to clear and cabinets we'll talk live with the new york city mayor eric adams this hour. and cnn is on the scene of the growing turmoil and dissent on multiple campuses from coast to coast. prices had gaza sparking a crisis right here at home that we're covering from every angle live that in-depth this hour. welcome to our viewers here in the united states and around the world. i'm wolf blitzer,
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and this is the situation room special report the skis, cnn, breaking news our first let's go to the university of texas at austin, and that's where cnn's at 11 deir is on the scene for us as we've seen, multiple arrests on campus. and the last few hours, whatsapp happening right now while we have seen dozens of arrest, ticulate, we don't have an exact number so far. number of arrests are taking place on this campus. but right now as the protests group that had set up camp in the south mole of the university here in austin a troopers, state troopers and local police cleared that crowd out. now, in that bus that you see there in the distance, it says out of service, that's actually one of the buses that was used to bring in state troopers. and now many of these protesters have essentially been chanting at the officers to get off campus and for
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better part of about a quarter of a mile through campus. here. or they are basically trying to get this book plus off of campus. now the troopers had already cleaned out the camp, site. it appears that they were already shutting down operations, but these protesters in very tense situations here this afternoon chanting at these officer there's to get off of the campus at one point, we heard a number of what sounded like tear gas canisters that we're deployed to disperse the crowd. but that has continued. we've seen a number of students or protesters pepper sprayed here, but the scene continues to move as this bus is essentially going in reverse. not the way that it would normally have just driven out of campus, but because of the crowd of people that is surrounding the bus, they are pushing it, and forcing it to go in reverse morph two back its way out of this area of campus. we're roads are very tight, very difficult situation. so the tense situation here continues as hey wait to see if this bus
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full of state troopers is gonna be able to safely get off off the campus here at this moment, do we have any idea how many students have actually been arrested? >> at the university of texas we don't know yet. >> we were counting as the arrests were being made. we got up to about 15 or 20 and kind of lost count and then some people were allowed to steve the protest area so we do not have an official number on the number of people that were arrested, but that camp site in the area where the protesters heads set up ground. had dozens and dozens of people inside so some people were allowed to leave without being taken into custody. other people were taken into custody. but at this point, we just don't have an official number yet and add i know oh, that's a some students have been arrested, but i have other students been suspended from the university as far as we know, we do not know of any students who have been suspended the the group that organized the palace palestinian solidarity committee, the student organization that organized the protest last week. that
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organization has been temporarily spended. we do not know the level of their participation in what has unfolded here today university officials in a statement, just a short while ago said that it was other group that had organized the protest that escalated into this situation here today, but they did not name that group. so we're not exactly clear as to just who was involved in that. university officials were also quick to point out that they believe that the majority of the people who were involved in the protest on the campus here today, or not, students another detail where we're having to dig into here as we get more information on who was arrested today. i know you're constantly getting more information and i want you to stand by, will get back to you, but retina now we're go to cnn's miguel marquez. he's over at columbia university in new york city. miguel, some protesters who defied the demand to clear and cabinets are now being suspended from the university. is that right? >> what we don't know exactly how that's going to work. the
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university said as of 2:00 p.m. eastern time today, if they did not clear that encampment, they face suspension or potion. so there's tension inside campus has also tension outside campus. there were several dozen protesters at one point today, only a few levs now, but the tension here at columbia university and the standoff is not clear how it will be resolved protesting students at new york's columbia university's there ground in their pro-palestinian encampment after they say talks between protesters andy administration broke down, we worry in good faith negotiations until the administration cut off under threat of suspension protesters inside and outside the ivy league campus after a deadline pass, refusing to leave until their demands are met that we construct the university divest from israel in circling the
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protest encampment on college grounds, where here to protect the students, even after administrators set a hard deadline today to clear the way for a graduation ceremony the tensions on display outside so i'd columbia's main gates as well one woman forcibly removed by the new york city police department the pressure ramping up during final exam week, the university threatening suspensions and expulsions, but promising protesters, they would be eligible to complete the semester in good standing if they sign a form promising to abide by university policies through june 2025. >> the tactic and earlier, police involvement in moving protesters has failed to disband the encampment of protesters saying these repulsive scare tactics mean nothing compared to the deaths of over 34,000 palestinians. >> the majority of columbia students just trying to get
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through finals. >> these circumstances have made things especially difficult most of my classes actually, last week had been canceled outright. >> the groundswell of protests here, growing in recent weeks, it set off a wave of protests, encampments at universities nationwide state troopers pushing back against protesters at the university of texas today after nearly 60 arrests last week, emotions rising with graduation, just weeks away but for many colleges, the fallout continues. and we're university's faculty now calling for a vote of no confidence of president gregory fenves after two professors were arrested and students faced pepper balls and tasers, the president saying, in a statement today, he found the videos to be deeply distressing and apologizing to students for an earlier statement in which he said the people behind the encampment on the quad, were not members of the emory community coming at a time.
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many universities are struggling to balance the right to free speech while protecting their students ability to pursue their education. the question is, where this goes from now, from here on forward, columbia university two weeks ago, arrested 108 students that then cause this backlash. and anger across the country and the encampments at other universities, the university of saying that they will not call police immediately. but protesters say they're not going to leave unless they are forced out. the question now is when will push comes to shove? well i will stay touch with you as well. >> miguel marc marquez over at columbia university in new york, joining us on the phone right now, the mayor of new york city, eric adams, mayor. thank you very much for joining us. i know this is an incredibly anxious and busy time for you. we're showing our viewers right now some pictures from the university of texas at austin. this is happening right now. this has columbia
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university in your city of d'arc has begun to threaten at least to start suspending students as demonstrators are still standing there ground. what do you make of these scenes? >> well, first of all, i want to push back when the comments that was made that because if police department when on columbia grounds after they were asked to come in. that is spock this way, of protests that is not true. you've had over 500 protests in the city that were peacefully managed by the knee york city police department dealing with after the after the massacre on october 7 and we're going to continue to respect the schools abilities to determine how they want to resolve these these issues. protests is part of the foundation of our society. i protest as a young person and the college students to dismantle apartheid. we know a protest is but it's not illegal to protest, but it's immoral to call for the
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destruction or group or race, or ethnicity. an estimated that is what's put the consciousness of many people in this city so may or what's your message to the students at columbia right now as mayor, how are you monitoring the situation to ensure that all the students, the faculty, and the others on the campus are safe. if you do an analysis, you are seeing that there are no injuries to students. they are no injuries to the protest is the police department, as maintain the discipline that is needed we can not go on college grounds without the permission of the faculty. the president, and the other members of the institutions. if they request us to go on to dismiss two tenths or any illegal behavior will do so or there's an imminent threat to someone's life or serious the property. we will also go on the grounds as well. >> as, you know, may or
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columbia university vowed not to bring in bring back nypd to the campus after it arrested more than 100 protesters last week saying it would be quote, counterproductive and further inflaming what is happening on campus, what other resources can new york offer to help to try to deal? escalate this situation what first, their requests of not having police back on the grounds that comes with an asterisk, they did request we go to mip pdi goes to the various interests entry point because they were finding that a large number of people who will on the ground did not attend schools you've seen that there are individuals who are not students that are playing a major role in the organizing are some of the disruptive behavior like we saw at nyu were bottles and chairs were thrown at police while they were there. >> and so our goal is to continue to the meters, the
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compensation and bring people together various religious and ethnic groups to see how we can play a major role in turning down the temperature so that we can all live in a city in a uniform manner, allow people to voice their concerns. but we should do it without someone to be discussed. ten hatred tone, tone that we heard, and we will not tolerate any violence in the city. there's no room for hate in this city. >> that's all that happens. and mayor, thanks so much for joining us, the new york city mayor, eric adams, good luck to you. a good luck to everyone in new york right now. >> thank you. take care. thank you. and just ahead as columbia university begins to spending some protesters, i'll talk to a lead student negotiator about demonstrators demands of the university. and we'll also go live to los angeles and a major walkout. by ucla students stay with us. you're watching a situation room special report from meat free monday to sunday
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monitor the situation where the heavy law enforcement presence that was here on the campus is trying to what appears to be just leave the situation either were dozens of our state troopers that were brought in as well as other local police officers. and after the encampment area was cleared in one part of campus they started being followed by many of the protesters protesters that were outside of that area. and there's become rather tense. it's at some point some sort of we've seen a number of officers pepper spraying some of the protesters following an essentially forcing one bus full of state troopers to back its way out of out of the area. we had heard a couple of loud explosions not clear if it would sound disbursement or who has any kind of pepper spray or an irritant that was involved in that. i just don't know at this point, but we did see an number of people who are trying to get their eyes treated for something that was discredited. i'm so some sort of dispersive mice might have been deployed
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at some point, we don't know if this is continuous to unfold here you can see this line of officers that have been kind of keep officers away from this bus. and this is the bus that has brought in many of the other officers that were here or there will be using the crowd control and arresting many approaches. protesters that had set up the captain palestinian protest part it's hours ago, but we're now well into the disruption here on campus four or five hours now, that this has continued a really no exactly clear part of the group that was following the officers broke into broke broke into two parts. one group following the officers and trying enchanting them, champion at them to leave the campus. another one went back to the original area where the encampment had been set up. we've lost sight of that. we don't know exactly what's unfolding in that scene. situation, but clearly tensions continued to escalate and can continue to be very high here on the campus of the university of texas. >> i will stay in close touch
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with you and thank you very much. for that update. rosseau, following the breaking news over at columbia university in new york, were students at the campus encampment are beginning to face suspension from the university joining us now, a lead negotiator for the student coalition at columbia university, mahmoud khalil ulama with thank you so much for taking a few moments with us. we have what you heard from your fellow students at columbia about these suspensions is there any police involvement as far as you know, right now? >> so as far as as far if now there's no police involvement, this was mentioned in the president's email two days ago when when she assured the community that nypd bringing nypd onto campus will be counterproductive. and this is again, our our position as well get into forests, see this as another certain inke intimidation tactic from the university to make them a clear
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the area and stop hope they're activism against their work and palestine. >> what does it mean for you, bakhmut as a palestinian student at columbia university to see these protests unfolding at schools all across the united states. how does this moment resonate for you personally? >> of course, i'm very, very humbled by it, by beta support of all these people, especially as a student who's not a protected at this, at this university. and the fact that now hundreds of thousands of students across the united states and the word, there are revolting against against their administrations to divest from de straight occupation is a huge thing. what we're witnessing right now is an anti-war movement across across the next if space is not as not only on college level, it's more for an international and national level why are so many of your fellow students participating in this mooc? >> especially at columbia university where you are a
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student despite the possibility of retaliation from the university because we'll over the past six months and these students, they have witnessed the killing of over 34,000 palestinians and gaza. >> and despite all of this density tuition, columbia, at least has only pushed one not at the event anti-palestinian edited on campus. they filled that they are alienated. they feel that the universities is very biased against, against them, against their activism and rather than university answering to their, to their demands, the inverse, the only did more, more and more disciplinary against, against this now, now columbia sees this as an internal, internal, a student internal disciplinary matter rather than an anti-war movement. on campus debt. that's that's that's asking to bring columbia two edges it is moral. and ethical
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principles mahmoud as you. know, threats and fear of violence have driven many jewish students from the campus at columbia. what do you say to people who say the campus is now an unsafe place for jewish students? >> once again, i would say that the liberation of palestine and the palestinians and the jewish people are intertwined. they go hand in hand anti-system semitism, and any other form of racism has no place on this campus and this movement in fact if people come to this encampment that's more of a community for students where we had a lot of a lot of israel students come in into the encampment they broke bread with, with other students and also, it was more of fulfill a multi-religious a space where we had muslim prayers. we had yesterday, we celebrated the
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shabat and i sorry, that was on saturday and yesterday, we had a sermon as well. we also over the week, we every every day, we celebrated the passover which which, which, which says which led by jewish voices for peace, who are an integral part of this movement apple on being university or mac would kahlil. thank you so much for joining us safe, over, there will be in touch. appreciate it thank you. >> all. >> and still ahead. another take on the columbia protests. i'll talk with the president of a campus student groups supporting israel from tried and true to try something new so many ways to save life ready wallet, happy that's 3605 by whole foods market at granger, we know the ones who get it done where a lot of hats a hard hat is one problem-solver is another, whatever the job calls
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developments well, with what we're in right now is amazing to say, an uneasy calm, but it's a calm with essentially a buffer zone between the outside world and the encampment. >> now earlier you mentioned the war okay those people marched into royce hall there you see one of the iconic buildings here on campus, hundreds of them, i would say a lot of students, some faculty making their voices heard. now, here, we've been speaking to some jewish students who are just upset and annoyed that they can't walk around on their own campus. the reason for this this campus been here since thursday, it was pretty small to start with, then the counter started and it was a bit of friction between the two sides. one barrier was put up, they breached that barrier sunday, there were some scuffles between the sides and that's when the college brought in this buffer zone. and it is still here. we are not allowed to cross. now, the pro-palestinian sayyed, the pro-israeli side tell us they're not planning anything big for tonight, but what they do have yesterday afternoon, they set up this video screen
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here just by the pro-palestinian encampment that is showing, you can't really see in the sunlight but those are scenes from october 7. they're showing their playing testimony from october 7, and it is loud and that is probably going to go on through the night. so how did this ends? it's unclear. i mean, the protesters say they won't divestment the uc university system says that's not going to happen. they're trying to balance freedom of speech, safety, and also the mission of this college, which is after all, let's not forget to educate and to learn, will nick watt on the campus of ucla? >> thank you very much. let's discuss what's going on with congressman rokhaya, democrat of california, congresswoman. thanks so much for joining us so get your reaction. first of all, to what we're seeing, not just that ucla, but at the university of texas at austin. and indeed across the country were colleges, universities are cracking down on demonstrations. how should these universities be approaching the protests on their campuses?
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>> well, if we have to start with remembering kent state and jackson state and not be calling armed police or the national guard or just that threatening to expel or spend students if they're engaged in free speech at the same time, there needs to be absolute moral clarity that anti-semitism is wrong. islamophobia is wrong. you can have people chanting to globalize the intifada or to say that zionists don't deserve to live and there needs to be very clear moral condemnation of that. >> the biden campaign, as you well know, congressman has been relying on you, among others, but especially you to reach out to younger americans, take us inside those conversations you've had, what our students telling you about their concerns with president biden's handling of the israel-hamas war and what's been your message to them well, if one of the things i hope people would look at is i was in wisconsin and i went to six campuses from eclair to
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lacrosse, to stevens point and yeah, on people, arab americans, a jewish americans were having conversations in such a constructive, wonderful way. >> we're gonna be putting out some of the videos because i don't think the american people understand how thoughtful some of the students are in many of the campuses they see some of the protests. >> but look, i mean the young people, they're headed concerned about abortion rights. >> that was the number one issue. they had a concern, an economics, of course, they're concerned about gaza. they want the warda and many of them won a permanent ceasefire and the release of the hostages. and i've conveyed that the president biden's team are new cnn poll, just released this weekend. shows 81% of voters under the age of 35 disapprove of president biden's handling of this war in gaza. how does the president turn that around? and when his actions so far are clearly not breaking through i think he's starting to turn it around by holding netanyahu accountable by empathizing with the extraordinary loss of life
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for women and children. i know from talking to president biden standing there, seeing his expressions that he feels the responsibility and the gravity. but the two things i think he needs to do is make it clear to netanyahu that we cannot have offensive weapons if he goes into rafah in defiance of what our military is saying is, is not a good strategic move as you probably know, ahead of next week, state department deadline to determine whether us weapons are being used by israel in line with international law. do you believe israel has violated international law? >> so what consequences should there be well, i'll leave that for the state department for the international bodies and for the lawyers. >> but i do think as president biden himself and said that the bombing has been indiscriminate. and the biggest consequence should be not having more offensive weapons. i have voted consistently in the past grade and for iron dome and david's arrow. but to get more bombs and offensive
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weapons, if there, if netanyahu continues to defy the administration, i just don't agree with that. and i think if they hold that accountability, they're going to start winning a lot of these young people back. >> let's see what happens. congressman rokhaya of california. thanks so much for joining us. thank you. >> just ahead. bore news. breaking news, i should say on the college campus protests that are going on as the president of emory university in atlanta anna is now facing fallout after student arrests you open your mailbox and see the envelope from your health insurance prince company. >> you hold your breath will they pay for your child's treatment this time? he will open the letter and find that you've been denied. again a month later, another let her arrives. your premiums are going up again. they are banking record profits and still plan on increasing their rates by 12% how can the health insurance companies get away
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grow your business with freelance ai fiber how we'd really haven't with jesse l. martin, sunday's at nine on cnn we're back with our special coverage of campus unrest across the united states. the president of emory university under fire and facing, a no confidence vote after student demonstrators were forcibly arrested. cnn's nick valencia is on the scene for us and atlanta. nick tell us more about the protests at emory in the fall hello wolf, not the level of intensity that we've seen across the country or even here that we saw last week, where the site behind me, this quad area was the site of violent protests by the atlanta police department and georgia state patrol trooper's, which were invited on campus by the university president gregory
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fenves. >> that decision has been protested and continues to be so by the students and faculty here through a no confidence referendum that is now being put forward to the rest of the faculty of the letters of carts college of arts and sciences that referendum will be tallied by wednesday. but i mentioned that fallout continuing, we caught up with one of those professors who was detained. >> i want to show you he the video of another one of those professors who was detained, however, karelin mr. we get back to nick or shortly, but that was really, really awful to see how those two police officers were bringing that the
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woman, a university professor over at emory, down like that. i want to get back to columbia university right now. the protests, they're rejoined by the president of the colombia student groups supporting israel edan yada gar edan. thank you very much for joining us. you left campus earlier than you were planning to. why did you feel the need to do that? >> thank you so much for having me wolfe unfortunately, there's a crisis unfolding on columbia's campus right now and this doesn't come as a surprise to the jewish community. we have been sounding the alarm for months. and right now we're witnessing the culmination of what has been six months of pervasive anti-semites the csm that has been completely ignored and avoided and sidestepped by our university leadership and unfortunately, as a result, now jewish students have been harassed, has been assaulted, have been stocked on campus my friends were threatened to go back to poland. >> other protesters on campus
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have thrown rocks, water, and fake blood at jewish students. >> a friend of mine had his israeli flags stolen, set on fire. and then when he tried to stop the mob from doing so, he was cornered, shoved, and hit we've been barred from entering places on our own campus particularly in regards to the south lawn where the encampment is this is our campus as well, and these are things that have happened on our campus. and our leadership has failed to keep jewish students safe. and so that is a big part of why i left early for passover columbia university, as you know, edan has begun to suspend protesters do support this. does this step from your perspective, go far enough unfortunately, columbia has conditioned its students to believe that they can repeatedly violate rules without consequences. >> that's what we've seen over the last six months. and so now we see students within the encampment claiming that
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they run this effing university, which was something that was said last night. and now they are explicitly emitting in press conferences that they will not be moved unless it is bite force. i think it is unfortunate that we've gotten to a point where suspensions are necessary. but the university has proven in competent in dealing with the situation and in following through with there were so despite the fact that they have as they should issued many suspensions, they've actually gone back and reversed many of them, which signals to the jewish community that we are an afterthought. and then our safety isn't a priority the protesters say they want to express their opposition to the war against hamas in gaza and the deaths of palestinian civilians there. this is something you have concerns about as well. what's your message to the students in this encampment? >> i think there are some very interesting parallels actually
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to be drawn between the strategies that we're seeing being used in the war, israel and hamas. and what we're seeing on campus right now. so as an example, hamas has been offered multiple ceasefire deals by israel and has rejected all of of them. at columbia, those protesting with the encampment have been in negotiations with the university, despite repeatedly violating university's policies and codes of conduct. and despite being offered several proposed proposals from the university to try and meet in the middle. these protesters have flat out rejected them i think what's so important to note is that one of the proposals that the university offered was to invest in health and education in gaza and that included providing support for displaced academics. there so it makes me wonder if the goal of this movement were really to improve life for palestinians and gazan why on earth are they rejecting that? i wouldn't have rejected that. i think the majority of my jewish peers wouldn't have rejected that
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it's been made incredibly clear that this movement functions around shutting things down, rather than building things up they are unwilling to collaborate. and even when they do collaborate, because they've put themselves in a situation in which the university has towered to this mob they are rejecting proposals that would help the very people they claim to be advocated for the hypocrisy i find to be incredibly astounding but it is really no wonder that this mob of pro hamas protesters has rejected these opportunities that are actually trying to help the people of gaza because that is not their focus. >> even yada gar. thank you so much for joining us. stay safe over there. never thought i'd have to say stay safe to a student at columbia university to go ahead and stay safe. thank you very much for joining us thank you wolf. >> i'm coming up. i will get an update on the israel-hamas war right at the center of these campus protests as a new proposal to free israeli
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on college campuses across the united states as protests against the israel-hamas war are clearly spreading, prompting new crackdowns and rest. >> let's go live to jerusalem right now. she has jeremy diamond is joining us. jeremy, first of all, what's the reaction in the region to the unrest in the united states right now is new talks on the fate of hamas hostages and a potential ceasefire are clearly underway. >> well, we'll certainly in gaza, there's been a lot of gratefulness for these protests. some palestinian students even writing on their tents in rafah, thanking these college protesters in israel, there's been a lot of dismay about what they view as misguided protests. but amid all of this wolf, there may be a path out away hey, out of this conflict and that is with these renewed ceasefire talks between israel and hamas with the new egyptian proposal, trying to push things forward smoke from the latest israeli airstrike rises near the tense
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of the displaced in rafah. and he could get much worse. israel is threatening a major ground offensive here this but far from the bombs and bullets, another path is emerging egypt, putting forward a new framework for ceasefire and hostage deal. >> but there is a proposal on the table up to the two sides, to consider and accept. but certainly the objective is a ceasefire under the latest proposal and israeli source and a foreign diplomatic source tells cnn that hamas would release between in 20303 hostages in exchange for a pause in the fighting and the release of hundreds of palestinian prisoners over several weeks, palestinians would also get unrestricted access to northern gaza, a new israeli concession israel and hamas would then agree to what diplomats are calling the restoration of sustainable nobel com, a one-year ceasefire that would see israeli troops withdraw from gaza and the
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release of the remaining israeli hostages. >> hamas has before to proposal that is extraordinarily extraordinarily generous on the part of his. and in this moment, the only thing standing between the people of gaza and a ceasefire is hamas as israeli officials expect, hamas is leader in gaza to respond in the coming days hostage, families are driving up the pressure on the israeli government. i know the feeling of losing hope bring kids back to me bring back my hope, bring kid, and all the hostages. they lives back. >> we can't handle anymore we've had enough failing to reach a deal only promises more pain for those hostage families and more unspeakable grief in rafah israeli airstrikes, killing 22 people overnight and rafat according to hospital
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officials, including five children, nestled among the body hey, bags, the small body of one-year-old day farleigh abu-taha is impossible to miss. >> he was among ten members of his family killed overnight we were sitting in our homes not doing anything. his uncle says, everyone was asleep in their beds. this is who they are targeting. this is their objective. this is the generation they're targeting. the stakes of ceasefire negotiations all too clear and tomorrow, secretary of state tony blinken heading to jordan and after that, he will head to israel to try and push forward, though ceasefire negotiations will jeremy diamond in jerusalem for us. jeremy, thank you very much. and we'll be right back with more news i love your dress thanks. i splurged a little because
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memories of past student unrest in this country. cnn's brian tatas, taking a closer look at that for us, uh, brian, give us some perspective on the protests. now and then, but will with hundreds, if not thousands of college students campuses according cross the country staging these protests that are going on now, we thought that some historical context could be helpful here now, throughout the 1960s, you had students from cal berkeley to colombia, to kent state university, ohio protesting against the vietnam war. they marched on campus, they occupied buildings one day in 1969, students at harvard university pinned the list of demands on the door of the harvard president's house. and at one point, they lead as faculty members, are they occupied buildings including university hall and lead faculty members out the door there. but a big difference between between those protests and the 60s and early 70s and the protests going on now was simply the level of violence, the scale of the violence, the current pro-palestinian protests have been for the most
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part, very peaceful, but in the vietnam era is you've seen some of these videos while the protests started peacefully, many of them turned violent. students, barracks heated themselves and buildings they thought with police in 1968, students at columbia university, and its affiliate barnard college, they took over several campus buildings and even briefly took the dean hostage before police crackdown on them. sometimes violently. the most infamous episode though, occurred at kent state university in ohio in may you have 1970, that's when ohio national guard troops opened fire on student protesters. they killed four of them and they injured several others. but maybe a better comparison to what's going on now in the tactics of the current protests. well, that comparison might have taken place in the 19 students across the country protested on campuses against apartheid in south africa. they called on schools to divest themselves from companies and groups that supported the apartheid regime in south africa. that was much like
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students are doing now, calling on colleges to divest themselves from israeli companies and then as now wolf, columbia university at the very center of that movement, wolfe and brian, as far as those protests in the 60s and 80s are concerned, what actual change did they bring about? they actually did bring about more change wolf than many people really believe the protests of the 60s, those put those images up there again well, they lead columbia university to cut ties with an arm of the pentagon that was doing research for the vietnam war. and also some colleges altered or ended military recruiting on campus as a result. and as for those anti-apartheid protests in the 1980s, they lead columbia university in many other colleges to divest themselves from doing business with south africa. and the us government later followed suit, wolf. so these protests you look at what's going on now, a lot of people wondering, can they have a difference in the war and what's going on? >> we'll see bryan todd reporting for us. brian. thanks very much. i'm wolf blitzer in the situation room. thanks very
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much for watching the news continues next on cnn tonight on three, 16 protesters defined deadline fines and facing academic sanctions and campuses across the country. the latest live on the pro-palestinian demonstrations, the police response elements of anti-semitism, and the impact this all can have on presidential politics. also tonight to look ahead at what to expect when the trump hush money criminal trial resumes tomorrow morning here in new york, and a report from haiti, a cnn exclusive for the country torn apart by gangs, or david culver tracks down in interviews, one gang leader who's now on the fbi's ten most wanted fugitives list good evening. thanks for joining us. we begin with pro-palestinian campus demonstrations entering their second week and growing. it seems not going away with spring commencement fast approaching university officials nationwide are now taking action to confront them. that said in different ways

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