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imminent threat of famine. this is an unprecedented descend into the hellish situation that is faced. >> and yet the former israeli prime minister enough tally bennett at last week told me something quite different about the civilian losses in gaza let me play it this. >> israel using bumps to target civilians. absolutely not never. we never target civilians. in fact, we have the lowest ratio of collateral damage in the history of urban warfare. we're bending over backwards in order to prevent unnecessary deaths otherwise, we'd get this whole thing done within three days if we didn't care about it does that track at all with what your organization is seeing in gaza? >> but what we can report is the facts and what we are seeing which is yes, the 34,000 people who have been killed we think that's an underestimate. >> we can tell you about the injuries, the horrific injuries to innocent children. and this
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is not about intentions, this is about the reality on the ground 2.1 million people living there. and so this is not about judging the intentions. it's about judging the realities and the actions i'm afraid that the humanitarian situation in gaza now represents an absolutely grave threat to the lives of 2 million people. that's not a military question. that's a humanitarian question. >> i will, secretary miliband, i very much appreciate your taking the time and talking to us tonight. >> thank you very much for your time. >> thanks for joining us. the news continues, right now here on cnn happening now, breaking news, new reaction to video obtained exclusively by cnn showing rapper producer jon so did he combs physically assaulting is then girlfriend, cassie ventura back in 2016 standby to see the video and hear what venturers, husband now saying about balls. >> also this our president biden ramps up his outreach to
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black voters who could potentially make or break his reelection bid. he's making a civil rights it's my marketing and civil rights milestone dire warning that donald trump and his allies want a country for some, but not for all and breaking news tonight the world's number one pro golfer just spoke out about being arrested and charged with felony assault. scottie scheffler, trying to downplay accusations that he injured a police officer while trying to drive past the scene of a fatal crash? welcome to our viewers here in the united states and around the world. i'm wolf blitzer in urine, the situation room the skis cnn breaking news. we're following breaking news first this hour the disturbing video of sean diddy combs obtained exclusively by cnn and the new reaction just coming in, we want to warn our viewers the video includes seems violence that viewers may
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find very difficult to watch cnn's elizabeth wagmeister broke the story first. she's joining us now live elizabeth. take us through this video and tell our viewers but it shows yes. >> as you said, wolfe, this footage is incredibly disturbing. so we do want to issue that warning to your viewers, but back in november 2023, cassie, who is diddy's ex-girlfriend and many people know her for her hit song me and you she filed a lawsuit against diddy and in that lawsuit, she detailed an incident that she alleged happen in march 2016. and now we have obtained this footage that we are seeing play out right? now in front of us that corroborates many of cavities allegations there you see that did he is dragging her in this hallway? he is kicking her he is shoving her he it's real it's really difficult to watch
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wolf because it is so violent. now, as i said, this mirrors her lawsuit. and what's so interesting about it is it's really a play by play of every thing that she alleged. i want to read you some pieces from her lawsuit, wolf, in an in or around march 2016, mr. combs became extremely intoxicated and punch ms ventura in the face, giving her a black guy, the lawsuit goes on to say that because of that incident inside their hotel room, that she then fled the hotel room and that is what we see her in the hallway it says he followed her into the hallway of the hotel while yelling at her. he grabbed at her, then took glass vases in the hallway and threw them at her, causing glass to crack cash around them as she ran to the elevator to escape. now, in that footage, we do see him picking up a glass vase and throwing it towards her. you see right there back in the mirror where diddy is, it's a bit hard to see but he grabs that vase and he throws it at
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her. now, what is interesting about this wolf is diddy has denied all of this. there is a settlement with this lawsuit, so he hasn't been able to speak specifically about casts but he has been maintaining his innocence as all of these lawsuits have piled up against him. and now, again, we are seeing this play out right in front of our face quite different than him saying that i deny all of these allegations against me, it's shocking, it's horrible. >> what more can you tell us? elizabeth about the response to this video and the other allegations against combs the response has been really overwhelming. >> again, i think seeing something in a visual format versus reading it certainly in the world of social media plays very different today that though is the court of public opinion. and of course, diddy is fighting to clear his name in a court of law, there are
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five lawsuits against him. that's not including cassius, which again has been settled. and four of those five lawsuits allege that he is responsible for sexual assault. now, again, he is denying all of this. i want to read you what he wrote back in december 2023 because we have not heard back from diddy's team yet today, but on his instagram back in december 2023, here's what did he wrote? he said, quote, sickened being allegations have been made against me by individuals looking for a quick payday. let me be absolutely clear. i did not do any of the awful things being alleged and at the time and attorney for holmes also told us that the settlement was quote, in no way an admission of wrongdoing. now, we are also getting reaction tonight from cassius husband. she is now married with two young children and appears here's to be living a very happy life, and here's what he posted. wolf, he posted what he called a letter to women and children. here's part of it. it says quote, to all the women and
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children, i'm sorry, you live in a world where you're not protected to the abusers. you're done, you are not safe anymore. he is getting a lot of praise on social media for not just backing his wife, but also for again, speaking to women and children. and lastly, wolfe, i do want to tell you that we have heard from cassius lawyer telling us, first at cnn, quote the gut wrenching video has only further confirm the disturbing and predatory behavior of mr. combs. he goes on to say that he is so proud of his client kasey, for coming forward with these allegations back in november elizabeth wagmeister. >> thanks very much for your reporting. i want to bring in right now cnn entertainment reporter lisa respers, france and joel anderson a staff writer for slate and attorney and legal affairs commentator or riva martin is joining us as well. a rava let me start with you seeing this awful, very disturbing video or sean diddy combs attacking cassie ventura.
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what will this been legally for him? >> well, what we know, what is that he has he been did he has denied all of the allegations in the five or six lawsuits that have been filed against him? i would not be surprised if some of the lawyers that are representing the other plaintiffs aren't going to use this video to try to extract a higher value settlement out of p. diddy his team, or if these matters du or any of them proceed to trial, we should expect to see a lawyer is trying to introduce this evidence as prior bad conduct evidence on the part of p. diddy. this could not be more horrible horrifying, obviously for victims for cassie who had to endure this kind of abuse. but this is what but many people are believed to be the conduct of beauty for years have been allegations of abuse of conduct and predatory conduct against him. in this video confirms many of those allegations you're certainly does elisa, this is the first time we're seeing this video with our own eyes of obviously
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on camera after years of allegations against the combs throughout his music career as a rava pointed out, with the impact of that i think the impact of that is devastating for duty because initially people wanted to say, oh, she just filed this lawsuit because she wants money. she's lying. but we see with our very own eyes exactly confirmation is lizbeth a said of what she alleged in her lawsuit and how do you come back from that? honestly, you i've been doing this for a while now. is entertainment reporter and it was a bit of an open secret in some corridors in terms of the music industry that diddy had a temper. people had accused him of being violent back in the 90s he was alleged to have gotten to a major altercation with steve stout and was alleged to have beaten him. and that became a court case. and there were other instances throughout the years where people said that this is who did he is, but he has so much
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power, wasn't until cassie came forward with a lawsuit that people felt like they could be comfortable to discuss that yeah. important point, joel, back in november when the cassie ventura filed her lawsuit against combs for sexual assault, you wrote that you weren't surprised and you wrote this and i'm quoting you now, i've been waiting for years for the other shoe to drop is this just the tip of the iceberg? >> what we're now seeing? >> i. think that's, right. i will people have been waiting for has come up into for years. i mean, that ranges from $0.50 to people that performed on his label, bad boy records many years ago. so anyone who had read or heard of the multiple detailed allegation of violence or abuse against combs, some of which i previously summer verizon, that piece you mentioned for slate. they're not surprised and in fact, it's precisely the image you'd imagine in the same way, videos of police violence can shift conversations and change public opinions like, i think this really upsetting footage will be similarly significant. like i think it could be the
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nail in the coffin when it comes to public opinion about it sean diddy, combs, the woman is just lying on the ground and he's kicking her like that awful or rava how might this inform the federal investigation against nitty as you and our viewers remember especially after that raid on it as homes back in march, could we see federal charges against him anytime soon was not clear. wolfe, what additional video may exist? this video, obviously gives us a bird's eye view this attack on cassie ventura on this particular de, but it raises the question about, are there other videos like this? are there other videos involving other victims of the videos actually involving cassie? and when did those incidents when did these brutal attacks occur? they're always statutes of limitations that have to be considered when you thinking about charges, whether there's criminal case is going to be filed or civil actions, but clearly this video i think is going to be a substantial piece
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of evidence that will be reviewed by law enforcement agencies that are looking at sean combs. and this is not going to bid i don't think this is going to end well for him, we've seen this happen with other the powerful men. what's the evidence starts to come out. other victims find their voices and they start to come forward as well. so this just may be the beginning of a variety of additional allegations and additional victims coming forward, you have a final thought job before i let you go money is really insulated sean diddy combs for very long and it feels like those days might be over like he had a falling out with a company that helped him with ciroc he's no longer affiliated with them. >> he had to step down as chairman of revolt. his reality show on hulu was canceled. so it seems like one of those things where he seemed teflon for so long that i'm sure many people expect this to go away. but the wall seemed to be closing in on him and apparently not a moment too soon. >> and lisa, your final thought?
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>> my final thought is that this is a vindication in so many ways for casie, but it also is amplifies the conversation whenever you have something like this with celebrities, it forces people to talk about massage, need to talk about believing victims. and the talk about domestic violence in a way that they may not have otherwise done. >> lisa respers france, or even martin and joel anderson to all of you. thank you very much for joining us and to our viewers. if you or someone you know, is struggling with domestic violence, you can get help by contacting the national domestic violence hotline online. at the hotline.org or by phone at 80799 safe sife. still ahead. i president biden is ratcheting up his pitch to black voters right now and the stakes for his 2024 campaign. and later, top pro golfer scottie scheffler, is now claiming is arrested hours before a pga tournament was a bit misunderstanding his words. but authorities say it was
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and concerted effort to try to reverse the erosion and support from black voters. >> the outcome could be a crucial factor in whether he wins or loses his rematch with donald trump. listen to the president today, murcia please 70 years, 70 years since the us supreme court decision desegregating schools all the progress we've made is still had more to do. and there's still groups are trying to erase it. my predecessor in an extreme maga friends all responsible for taking away other fundamental freedoms from the freedom to vote, the freedom to choose. >> the president has outreach to black voters continues this coming weekend. they'll give the commencement speech at morehouse college in atlanta on sunday, followed by remarks at an end, cp dinner in detroit let's get some more and all of this with our political experts, van jones, i'll start with you. the president is clearly trying to draw contrasts with trump on their records on issues like voting reproductive rights among several other issues. is this
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the right message you think to try to reverse the president binds falling support with black voters? >> i think it's a good start. look, it's a privilege and an honor for anybody get a chance to speak at a morehouse commits a commencement. i got a chance to do it once as what are the highlights of my life. he speaking to the next generation of leadership in our community, but he's got to understand people are hurting and uncertain they're struggling and juggling. and these young people really do not have a great deal of faith right now. and the democratic party, he cannot just give a generalized message african-american men in particular feel these young men feel they have not been talked to directly their issues when it comes to police reform, when it comes to violence in the streets have not been given the force they expected. so he's got skeptical audience. he's got to win them over. he's got to talk to them directly. what is he going to do for them in the future, going forward? and why does he need their help now, b does that i think is going gonna go well, he gives a big pinterest, a pie in the sky
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speech, just talking about donald trump. i think it's gonna work eva a new fox news poll shows just how much a president biden support among black voters. >> has fallen since the last election. take a look at this. >> in 2020, he enjoyed a dominant 75 point margin, but now that margin is dropped to just 49 points what are you hearing from voters out there about why this is and what is the biden team's plan to try to turn these numbers around? well, if i spoke to black voters earlier this year for some reporting and their concerns are primarily economic. it's a deep frustration with stagnant wages. it's anxiety about being able to afford a home they feel as though they keep voting for democrats their lives aren't getting any materially better. they're attracted to third-party candidates. actually, robert f. kennedy jr. and then also cornel west. i'm hearing from these just disaffected voters. there's also a generational divide that van spoke to you
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know, there's a certain fidelity that old there are black voters have to president biden to the democratic party that we're not seeing among young black voters who are deeply disappointed in president biden's response to the humanitarian crisis in gaza. the administration's response to all of this is that they are working on it, that they have made historic investments when it comes to maternal health, when it comes to hbcus and a whole number of issues i don't know if that message this time is going to be enough. >> let me get that. alice stewart is thoughts on this as well. alice, the fox poll shows trump winning more than 20% of black voters, which would be a historic high if it actually translates to votes in november, is this something that trump team thinks they can do? >> absolutely. and they're working very hard to try and win over black voters and appeal to them. but what we're seeing with president biden, the last few days and it has he will continue to do is he is
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not just appealing for black support. he has pandering for black voters there's, and look, this is what democrats do every time there's a major election year, they parachute into black communities and say, i'm a democrat, vote for me when the reality is, there are frustrated with the policies of this administration and he wants to go out there and talk about abortion and threats democracy, when the key issues on top of mind for all voters are, as eva said, the economic conditions inflation of people are concerned about the border and there also worried about national security. and this is a factor and a problem that the biden administration is going to have and look up. trump is going to capitalize on that. and frank lance, as a conservative pollster has done a lot of polling. he says, even black voters are looking at trump as someone that they can relate to as a victim of what they see as an unjust justice system. so they see trump picking up support based on what's happening him with a legal the interesting, a van, another political issue that's unfolding over these past few
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hours, democratic congresswoman jasmine crockett's is calling republican representative marjorie taylor greene racist following a very, very tense hearing last night, that devolved into very personal attacks, i want to play some of that for you. >> her viewers watch this you know, we're here you know what you're here for. >> well, you don't want to talk about i think your fake eyelashes are messing up nothing order. mr. chairman. evening. >> i would like to move to take down ms greene's words that is absolutely unacceptable. how dare you are your feelings hurt? >> that's down. oh, oh, girl, baby girl. oh, really don't even play if someone on this committee, then starts talking about somebody's bleach blonde, bad built, butch body that would not be engaging in personalities, correct? >> what now then what do you
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make of that i think that the standards of conduct have been pulled down so low by some of these folks in congress. they go there because they want to be celebrities. i'm talking about artery taylor greene and others. why do we even know her name? marty taylor greene has never passed a bill. she'd never chaired a committee. she's never done anything but be a provocateur and a clown. and cheese gets out the skin of people in this is kind of stuff that goes on. but whether she's racist or not, she she is a disgrace to the american peoples whose disgrace to that congress. and she should just pass one bill. maher, did do your job every time we talk about her, she's doing some clownish nonsense and it's ridiculous. >> what do you think i mean, she is an instigator right? >> this is the entire her entire calling card. the reason that she sort of made it to congress was these kinds of the
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ac, tricks i will say, i think on the racial element to this often it is black women, especially women like congressman crockett, who are leaned on to sort of rise above. and we should question sort of that double standard. why should she conduct herself any other way? look at the leadership. look at the tone house. republicans are setting the tone and if this is the kind of energy that congresswoman marjorie taylor greene is bringing folks in that room are going to match that energy and we shouldn't necessarily i think castigate congresswoman crockett for respond responding in kind. >> gala. so i just want to get your thoughts marjorie taylor greene is offered at the center of controversy. what's your reaction to that chaotic display? >> but i'm by no means whatsoever defending marjorie taylor greene's comments here, but that was not a monologue,
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that was a dialogue back and forth. and it was childish behavior all around. i think members of congress are there too. lead this country legislate and get laws passed and they're not there to provide real housewives of new jersey kind of behavior on in congress and it was childish behavior you're all the way around and it shouldn't be tolerated. >> all right, guys. thank you very much. thanks to all of you coming up. what the world's top rank golfer is now saying about his early morning arrest just hours before teeing off at the peak ga championship how we'd really happy with jesse l. >> martin. >> sunday's at nih get cnn led to an ard lotto singular dot at high noon as become an icon of modern design a diode fito
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only a few hours later. >> are bryan todd is on the story for us. brian anderson, scheffler is speaking out and calling the entire higher incident a big misunderstanding. he did say that wolf just a short time ago, but right now, the police have a different version and it appears for the moment to be their word against hints the world's number one golfer, scottie scheffler defending himself tonight after being charged with assaulting a police officer at the scene of a traffic accident in louisville, kentucky. it was the chaotic situation in a big big misunderstanding and i can't can't comment on any of the specifics of it. the incident occurred as scheffler was trying to enter the valhalla golf club in louisville this morning for the second round of the pga championship, one of the sport's major tournaments, louisville police say they were working a separate traffic fatality when she scheffler attempted to drive past the scene. >> they say when an officer, detective bryan gillis stopped scheffler and attempted to give him instructions, quote, subject refused to comply and accelerated forward, dragging
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detective gillis to the ground. the detective was injured, though not seriously. >> we're talking about the number one player in the world, right? who is in contention at a major championship. and then is arrested before his tee time, probably an hour-and-a-half before his teeth tine. and it's this type of adversity that you really never see in the game of golf. >> espn journalist jeff darlington witnessed the arrest and filmed it. they told him to stop when. he didn't stop, the police officer attached himself to the vehicle scheffler then traveled another ten yards before stopping the car. the police officer then grabbed at his arm, attempting to pull him out of the car before scheffler eventually opened the door, darlington film scheffler being led away in handcuffs, police telling him to stay back right now, what right now? >> he's going to jail okay. >> okay. >> he's going to jail nine. you can do about theory. i there's there's nothing you can do bad thing. >> my it was just i was shaking
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the whole time. i was shaken for like an hour seems to be a he said he said situation scheffler says he was proceeding as directed by officers and his attorney says he never assaulted and officer with his vehicle in almost surreal set of events surrounding a golfer with a so far sterling reputation. >> he is probably one of the most docile guys and professional golf. he's just an incredibly happy go lucky, kind of individuals. >> we have a scenario where scottie scheffler could be hoisting the trophy on sunday evening, and then going to court on monday scheffler's attorney says the golfer will plead not guilty to the charges bridges and will cooperate fully with the investigation as part of his statement today, scheffler also expressed sympathy with the family of the deceased accident victim saying, quote, it truly puts everything in perspective. wolf ryan, thanks very much. let's get some more right now from a golf reporter for barstool sports, dan rapoport, the only thing pretty much your journey as you spoke with scheffler at that press conference? just a
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little while ago. what bohr did he say about what this experience has been like? >> he was remarkably com afterwards and even when he showed up to the golf course this morning, he seemed really loose here. you kinda cut the ice, but all the guys said, hey, everyone, he was laughing and on the tee. so he seems to have a clear conscience after it. he said, look, that officer was trying to do his job. it was a horrible situation with the accident. he didn't seem to have any ill-will toward the officer. it was just a a confluence of events that led to a really unfortunate seen what was the golf world? >> danny reacting to this rather bizarre situation resulting in the arrest? of the world's top golfer it was absolutely stunning. >> i woke up this morning to a bunch of texts and i thought that they were links to like a span kim thing or something trying to get me to click on it. it was there's 156 players in the field, i think and he might be 156. but who you think would be most likely to be taken away in handcuffs. he just a soft so can very religious guy playing the best golf of his life, there's, there's really no reason for him to put himself in some sort
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of situation like this and all the other players said, look, we did the same thing this morning was a super chaotic scene. i want around traffic and then release it to the exact same thing. so it's really hard to believe that this happened today. and who would happened to them? they tell us a little bit football about scheffler's reputation in the golf world. is he at risk potentially of losing sponsorships and endorsements for example i mean, there's always a risk, but i don't think that he's going i don't think he's gonna be like convicted of this. >> i mean the mayor of louisville got involved and the governor of kentucky it a statement that said, i hope all parties can come to a solution that doesn't sound like someone who's gonna be held for a felony assault charge. so i think it really will go down down eventually as a big misunderstanding, the officer maybe didn't know that he was a player, a bunch of officers showed up on the scene because of the fatality. who knows what they were told, who knows what he knew at that time, it's impossible similar to know, but it's looking very unlikely that scottie had any sort of nefarious intentions.
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>> as you know, scheffler played in the pga championship after being released today? by police update our viewers. how did he perform he performed like scottie scheffler performs always now, he shot 66. >> he's not i'm under par for the tournament very much in contention. he won the masters. so this would be a two majors and a row. he's won four of his last five starts. and it was a masterclass in compartmentalizing because i can't even make he said he stretched in a jail cell this morning, which definitely didn't expect to do this week. so to show up here really and 35 minutes, you usually want like an hour of preparation when a so the first birdied the first hole and it was happy he moved on dan rapoport. >> thanks very much for joining us new revelations coming into cnn to the dew reaction, we're getting to the revelation that an upside down flag that's been a symbol of the election denial movement. we've seen outside the home of us supreme court justice samuel alito. alito's
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democrats are raising new concerns about what they see as a pro-trump bias or the us supreme court. this following the revelation that an upside down american flag was seen flying at the home of the justice samuel alito, a symbol of the stop the steal election denial movement. cnn's senior supreme court analyst, joan biskupic is following the story for us john, tell us more about this incident. >> sure. could you see your wealth, justice alito, who said that his wife put up the flag after a heating coil with a neighbor. >> it started with some an anti-trump sign that had been in the neighborhood, apparently used an expletive against donald trump and there were some more personal insults traded and directed toward the justices wife cnn spoke to some of the neighbors. today in his in his area of his virginia home, who recalled that flag flying upside down. but the reason it's salient today, some three years later, wolf is because the justices are now considering cases the trace to
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the january 6 riots at the capital one and valving some of the defendants who want to challenge their charges. and one involving a very momentous case involving donald trump and his claim of immunity from any trial for election subversion and as you know, justices or judges are supposed to recuse themselves if there's any appearance of of partiality here. and not where they're there for fairness would be questioned and here's what samuel alito said though, about the incident to the statement to the new york times which first reported it, i had no involvement. what however, in the flying of the flag, it was briefly placed by mrs. alito in response to a neighbor's use of objectionable and personally insulting language on yard signs so he's suggesting that this was something that was in his wife's hands and nothing brushed aside any kind of concerns about his own
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doctors preferred better science better results. this is a secret war. >> secrets and spies premier sunday, june 2, attack on cnn with the trump trial on break today anticipation is building for michael cohen's returned to the stand on monday. the defense is expected to keep working to try to undermine cohen's credibility after scoring some major points yesterday trump's lawyer got cohen to admit he didn't fully remember a key phone call portrayed is a direct link between trump and the stormy daniels hush money deal are legal experts are joining us now. they're following it all. tim parlatore, let me start with you. trump's attorney todd blanche spent the entire day yesterday grilling michael cohen and trying to catch him in lies. you expect to see more of that on monday i do. >> i think that he covered a lot of ground. there's still a few more points to cover, so i think it's just going to be continuation of the same to the
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extent that he can find any other ways to try to undermine some of the other phone calls. i think you'll try to we do that, but that's really going to depend on what text messages they may have in the discovery norm, your in the courtroom yesterday for the dramatic moment, when todd blanche press cohen on whether the phone call allegedly linking trump to the hush money scheme was actually about a 14-year-old prank color what was your takeaway from that? and how will prosecutors tried to clean it up on redirect wealth? >> it was the single best moment of todd blanche's cross-examination which otherwise meandered and left a lot of loose sands and it was a powerful there's no doubt about it. it was a blow on the chin, on the other hand there's a tremendous amount of
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corroborating and supporting evidence. and it takes more than one punch to devastate the very strong proof, which i believe the district attorney has adduced here it didn't knock michael cohen out either. he didn't recant his testimony he was clearly shaken, but he stood by what he had said so i thought it wasn't important moment, but not dispositive in the case, they will redirect by making clear that in context that this call was a brief one, that there was ample time for multiple subjects, you can get a lot into 96 seconds. we do that all the time. wealth and finally that there are other direct calls with trump, including two on the morning of october 26, clearly placed by
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cohen directly to trump. that also substantiate trump's involvement with a great deal of other evidence tim, we're just learning that an ethics complaint about judge merchan for his $35 donation to democrats back in 2020. >> was dismissed last july with a warning how much is trump going to seize on that i mean, it's certainly, it's a political point for him to seize on. >> but do i think that that's actually going to affect the outcome of the case or create an appellant issue? >> no, i don't i mean, i've appeared in front of judge merchan myself. i tried tried to case in front of them and i don't think that it's really necessarily affecting this trial too much. but it is a good political talking point for them. >> what do you think norm i think that tim is, as usual
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absolutely right no legal basis here over 30 other judges received such warnings in the period of time it's a very small donation. >> it's not an ethics violation and what i've seen in court every day and i know tim knows this from his time before judgment shot and extremely fair judge, who very often rules for trump and the defense as so i don't think it bears upon the integrity of the kick tim, when i have you, i want to turn quickly to the 2020 election subversion case in arizona. former trump lawyer jonny smear pleaded not guilty today to try to overturn that state's election results. mark meadows, rudy giuliani, 16 others are doing court next week how strong you think this case again? since them is i think that this indictment is far better written and better
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put together than the one in georgia. >> or quite frankly, the one in dc, because it's the first time that i've seen anybody put together a coherent theory in my opinion about the difference between the so-called fake electors versus alternate electors theory to provide the question for me is going to be, it seems like they do have emails that are back that up and it does seem to put people like boris epstein and mike roman right in the middle of it. is that going to be able to be going up the ladder to people like rudy giuliani, mark meadows maybe not. i think that they're going to have difficulty connecting it up, but i think they're also going to have difficulty connecting it down. to the electors themselves. but i do think it's a much stronger case and more intelligently put together than the one in georgia norm, let me get your thoughts. how do you see well in the big picture, wealth, what we have seen is accountability both for
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the former president and those who are involved now in states across the country will have a very important day in that law larger context for arizona and the other cases, because monday we'll mark the de that a represents the time interval that the supreme court used to decide the 14th amendment case as it applies to the federal election interference case. >> so every the thing is moving, hopefully the federal will two. >> we shall see norm eisen and tim parlatore to both of you. thank you very much coming up new developments out of the middle east that with israel recovering the bodies of more hostages, killed by hamas red hot deal days are here at verizon. get our biggest deals of the season, only until may 29th. get a bundle of your choice on us from any of our
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hostages have been recovered from gaza and returned to israel cnn's jeremy diamond has more they managed to escape hamas is terrifying, rampage at the nova music festival on october 7 but they did not survive the de hamas terrorists killed shani louk. amit bouskila, and yitzhar get learner ten miles down the road from the festival, according to the israeli military their bodies taken into gaza and held hostage until now, plus night. these were defense forces and isa forces rescued the bodies of all hostages. the israeli military now says their bodies are back on israeli soil return to families who have endured more than seven months of uncertainty and anguish our hearts go out to them to the families. >> at this difficult time we
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will live no stone unturned we will do everything in our power to find a hostages and bring them home 23-year-old shani louk, scene here at the festival hours before her death. >> this image of her bonnie being hauled into gaza, embodying the brutality of hamas is attack. her family learned in late october that she had been killed. >> we cannot do really real funeral. >> her father now, telling israeli media, they can find peace the government than about this was like a present for shabbat for us. and now she'll be able to find her place in the cemetery. we can put a bouquet for the two other families, a different type of closure for months. the family of amino scala, a 28 fashion stylists had no information then we know nothing about her,
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not one person has seen her and is capable of telling us anything about her or any of the others really, nothing the israeli military operation also confirming for the first time the death of eats ha get learner, a 58 year-old, father of four and grandfather of two in israel. >> reaction pouring in from across the political spectrum with israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu calling the news heartbreaking, vowing, we will return all of our hostages, the living and the deceased alike but there is no clear path to securing their return. earn ceasefire negotiations at a standstill. the families of the remaining hundred and 25 hostages clinging only to hope. and fear jeremy diamonds, cnn, jerusalem jeremy, thank you. >> and there's more news out of gaza. tonight's the pentagon says humanitarian relief is now reaching the

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