♪ it's all right it is all right, it's over for us today on "new day" and we give it to carol costello. >> i got it. thanks, guy, have a great day. "newsroom" starts now. happening now in "the newsroom," impasse and anger. >> you guys are worthless in my opinion, all of you. worthless! you don't run this country. >> shutdown breakdown. >> this is a waste of time. it's not going anyplace. >> america fed up from being put down. >> how many are worried about the government shuttown?

how many more worried about it starting back up. will a new republican strategy open the government back up? also glitched. obama care launched and then landed. >> but the page just wasn't populated so there's some sort of technical glitch and it wasn't working. >> websites not working, thousands of you left without an answer. plus critical condition. >> all his ribs fractured, his lungs are so badly bruised, he's still on the ventilatoventilato. >> reporter: the virial video that shocked america, a swarm of motorcyclists, a family of three in an suv and horrific ending. >> my husband got off the bike to help the guy and he got scared, he peeled off and paralyzed my husband on the way. >> reporter: you're live in the "the newsroom."

good morning. i'm carol costello, thank you so much for joining me and welcome to day two of your government being shut down and your plans possibly narrowed, booking a trip to yosemite, better reschedule. want a loan for your small business, that window is closed or how about a visit to the capitol? today it's closed to visitors even though it's open for lawmakers. not that it matters. it's their squabbling that has left much of the government paralyzed or maybe i should say today it's government alacart day, partially opened, partially closed and author rely gridlocked. >> the yeas of 252, the nays 176, two-thirds not being in the affirmative, the rules are not suspended and the joint resolution is not agreed to. >> that, my friends, is your people's house, congress striking down a bill that would fund some of america's treasures, veterans programs, national parks, and washington,

d.c.'s local government. could you call it government buffet style, take what you want and leave what you want, like pay-per-view and an idea floated by republican senator ted cruz. >> i think we ought to start passing continuing resolutions narrowly focused on each of the things the president listed. he said border patrol agents won't be paid. he says that he plans to close every national park, let's fund the interior, keeping the parks open, let's one at a time demonstrate the same bipartisan cooperation we saw today with the military and address all of these people that he's holding outers are going to suffer. >> there's no shortage of american suffering but certainly not in silence. >> it's just unfortunate that we're being held hostage by congress in order to further their agenda, which is not our agenda. >> it makes no sense to us.

the government, it's their responsibility to pass a budget. it's the law. why didn't they? >> it's unfair to the public. it's unfair to the citizens of this great nation and it's just unfair that we have to experience these types of hardships because people can't get their acts together and agree on something. >> anger, resentment and resolve all boiling over in a most unlikely place in washington, the world war ii memorial. here's cnn's chris lawrence. >> welcome to washington. >> thank you. >> reporter: wheelchair bound veterans came just to see the world war ii memorial, only to be greeted by barricades. >> i don't get it. i don't get it. i'm furious. >> reporter: members of congress seem surprised, but when they vote to shut down the federal government, monuments do, too. >> if i can walk around here why can't i walk down there? it makes no sense. >> reporter: that's exactly what some are saying about negotiations on capitol hill.

>> i feel like our government is wasting our taxpayer money. [ cheers and applause ] >> reporter: onlookers applauded as the veterans broke past the barricade. >> well, it fills you with pride and makes you proud that you were part of it. >> reporter: lawmakers who came to greet the vets also laid blame for those barricades. >> this is a spiteful decision that was ordered from the white house. >> reporter: the politicians made no mention of their own role. >> we're trying to protect the lives and the health care of these wonderful veterans who did for us. >> reporter: but as they postured within a mile of the memorial, thousands of federal workers were being furloughed. >> everyone is angry. i mean, angry. >> reporter: sent home without pay, they're scared for themselves and their co-workers.

angry, worried and incredibly frustrated. >> because i don't see why we the people should suffer because of their disagreement. >> reporter: despite it all, the shutdown won't stop one woman's 93-year-old father who will get to see the memorial that honors him. >> we're just glad he got on the plane this morning. >> reporter: you're still going to enjoy this day? >> oh, yeah, it's going to be great. >> reporter: the thing is flights and hotels are already booked for a dozen more veterans trips during the next week. park officials say they are looking for guidance on how to handle those. translati translation? we can't believe the folks in charge left us here to block elderly veterans from entering an open concrete space. chris lawrence, cnn, washington. >> we've been hearing all week about the potential jobs report and this morning, a new message

posted to the bureau of labor statistics website, "this website is not being updated due to the suspension of the federal shutdown period. bls will not collect data or respond to public inquiries." it t says updates to the site will start again when the federal government resumes operations. as more americans are impacted by the shutdown public anger continues to grow and that means politicians in washington need to step up their efforts to blame the other side. in an op-ed for today's "wall street journal" republican house speaker john boehner accuses president obama of a "scorched earth policy of refusing to negotiate in a bipartisan way." that's not all the speaker has to say. cnn's brianna keilar is at the white house this morning to tell us more. good morning. >> reporter: good morning to you, carol. little snippet of the speaker's op- op-ed, he says washington democrats have slammed the door on reopening the government by refusing to engage in bipartisan talks and the stories across the

country highlight the devastating impact of obama care on families and small businesses they continue to reject our calls for fairness for all americans." this is the line from house republicans, carol, that the white house and democrats will not engage, but talking to sources here, i'll tell you the way they see it is that there's not even a starting point where republicans are that they could agree to. they don't want to tinker with obama care, they don't want it defunded, don't want it delayed so they don't see the point of engaging at this point because of what republicans are proposing for them is a nonstarter, the idea you may extend government funding, we've seen different proposals from 45 days to 75 days at this point for delaying or completely defunding obama care. they say it's not apples to apples and it's not even close when you compare those two things, so at this point, we think the white house is really trying to rely instead on that public opinion where a lot of americans are saying they would

rather see this government shutdown ended and they don't want to see obama care really be the issue here so i think the white house is trying to rely on that, and trying to build pressure against republicans, rather than sitting down and engaging with them. >> all right, we'll talk to you more later this hour and the next. brianna keilar live at the white house this morning. despite the shutdown over obama care, obama care goes on, signups continue today. we know more than 2.8 million people visited healthcare.gov which manages health care for 34 states. the enormous web traffic overloaded the system. lot of people seeing this message "please wait." several state exchanges also having major bugs. california's website had to be shut down for maintenance overnight. officials say they were overwhelmed with 5 million hits and 17,000 phone calls in just a few hours. state officials as well as president obama promised glitches, all of the glitches would be worked out. >> just a couple weeks ago apple

rolled out a new operating system and within days they found a glitch, so they fixed it. i don't remember anybody suggested apple should stop sell iphones or ipads. >> struggling with those glitches are people like terry o'neill from sacramento, california. she's a married mother of three, a freelance writer, ph.d. student and independent film producer. her husband has his own business repairing computers, and terry joins us now. good morning, terry. >> good morning. >> okay. so you're excited, going to go to healthcare.gov and what happens next? >> well, i had a lot of trouble on the website itself. healthcare.gov directed me to coveredcalifornia. covered california actually, it took a long time to maneuver through the site and find out where i was supposed to go and how i was supposed to apply online actually. there was no place to apply

online. so you had to actually print the application, print the paper application or they say when you print the application you can call the 800 number or apply online. >> how long did that part of your task take? >> that part took about 40 45 minutes trying to maneuver through the website and find the proper link to apply, which wasn't there. it wasn't available. >> did you talk to an actual person at some point? >> yes, after waiting on hold for about an hour, i spoke to a representative there and she said there were glitches in the system and they were unable to process any applications but i was lucky enough to, she actually processed it for me over the phone. she took my information and processed it over the phone. >> that's good. so all of that took what, about three hours but you don't know

right now whether you qualify for any plan. is that right? >> correct. yes. they said by the end of the week, maybe next week, they will let me know. >> so after three hours of your time, you still don't know? >> no, i still don't know. >> okay, so that must have been frustrating. still frustrating for you but do you feel it's worth it? >> absolutely i think it's worth it. going years without health care, three hours a week, it's worth a try. it's worth my effort for me and my kids. so yeah it is. it's frustrating but you know, millions of people were online. i expected it. i guess i expected it so i wasn't too disappointed. >> okay. terry o'neal -- >> i knew i wasn't the only one. >> no, you were definitely not alone in your pain. terry o'neal thank you for joining us this morning. we appreciate it. >> thank you.

so let's bring in cnn's chief medical correspondent sanjay gupta on the cnn express bus tour in lexington, kentucky, and you're also examining the pitfalls and the benefits of obama care. so how it the administration addressing the glitches in the system? >> well they say it's going to be better today, carol. obviously the proof is in the pudding. they said the same thing yesterday afternoon. i could tell you i was in greenville, south carolina, and we spoke to hundreds of people over there who came by the bus just to ask questions and share their stories and we couldn't find anybody who said they convincingly were able to register, apply and be approved for a plan. similar story to what you just heard, and now we're in kentucky and they say that things were a little bit better here in kentucky yesterday, about 2,900, close to 3,000 people were actually able to get registered, but keep in mind about 3 million people across the country apparently were trying to do

this yesterday and the number that actually succeeded much smaller and if i can share with you a little bit of irony in all of this, we've been talking to the department of health and human services, kathleen sebelius' office and the primary person whom we deal with is now furloughed so we had a hard time getting information from hhs specifically about what the numbers look like across the country in terms of registration. the government shutdown even affecting the ability to get information here. >> so what's your best advice? i know terry, i mean at least she got an application in and being processed and eventually she'll find out whether she qualifies but what advice would you give people trying to get onto the system who might have given up yesterday? >> reporter: well, i think that the best advice is this is considered an open enrollment period, and grant that a lot of people who are doing this have never had the luxury of going through an open enrollment before. they've not worked for a company that offered them insurance, but keep in mind you know, carol,

open enrollment lasts a while. this open enrollment will go through march 31st and if you do actually apply and register before december 17th, your benefits will start january 1st. my point is you got some time. it seems like at least according to what we're hearing there was a lot of attention, certainly more attention than people estimated there would be this first day yesterday. my guess is in the weeks, even in the months to come, that's going to taper down significantly, probably even today. so you got a lot more shots at it. it's a three-page application ultimately when you do get on. it's fairly straightforward, and the thing that's most notable i think carol, we talked about this yesterday but the most notable thing on this application is what it doesn't ask which is your medical history because that's no longer relevant to how they determine your cost. >> dr. sanjay gupta, thank you so much. i know you're going to be in maryland tomorrow with the questions people are asking about obama care and you can

check out "sanjay gupta m.d." every weekend on cnn. before i take you to a break a final ouch, because of the government shutdown, college football may take a hit. saturday's big time rivalry game between navy and air force is supposed to be aired on cbs but cbs could have nothing to show because the teams might not be able to play because of uncle sam and here's why. navy stadium -- andy scholes i'll let you explain ta. air force has to come up with money to travel to where navy is, annapolis. >> that's right. >> and the government usually funds that because it's air force and now they got to dig up some money and if they can't dig up the money they can't go. >> the good old shutdown, the defense department temporarily suspended all athletics for navy, air force and the army and big problem they have to get from kohl doll to annapolis. air force fund their program with ticket sales, tv money. part of it comes from government funding and because of the shutdown can't use that money and there's no rules in place

for something like this, we never expected the government to shut down so the lawyers they're sifting through the paperwork trying to figure out if they can use non-government money to fund a trip from colorado to annapolis. of course they can get private donors to pony up for the trip or air force in the mountain west conference they can maybe pay for the conference themselves for them to go but it's a big problem. air force and maeve navy playe year since 1972. you wouldn't want this to happen but we should have a decision tomorrow as well as army and boston college, army whether they can get to their game. decision tomorrow. >> the travel is expensive to put it in perspective, it could cost a couple hundred thousand dollars for air force to get to annapolis. >> taking over 100 people on a chartered flight across the country so it's pretty expensive and of course they had a plan in place but now that plan of course because of the shutdown got to come up with a new one. we'll see if it happens. you don't want to miss a rivalry game like that. >> no!

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suspicious packages that led to an evac ways of jacksonville international airport in florida were a hoax, that's what a federal law enforcement official tells cnn. the suspicious bag was x-rayed, nothing was in. wjx reports the suspect was arrested at the airport. ground beef is being recalled, central valley meat company says almost 90,000 pounds of the beef may contain small pieces of plastic. it was shipped to arkansas, nebraska and north carolina. similar recall last month aff t affected shipment, no one has gotten sick. looks like a normal landing except that is not a runway, that's the highway.

the pilot said the plane lost power during an inspection flight in florida. drivers on the road saw the plane and managed to get out of its way. talk about bad optics, war veterans in wheelchair breaking down barriers to visit the world war ii memorial, government shutdown or no. >> at first i didn't think i'd come, but i'm glad i did now. >> reporter: were you worried when you saw the barriers up? >> no, didn't bother me a bit. >> reporter: you're still going to enjoy this trip? >> yes. >> yes he did. catalyst though perhaps for government alacart in an effort to make sure america does not see this anymore, the house of representatives will attempt again to pass small non-controversial bills to fund what it likes. national parks and veterans affairs, yes. obama care, no. judd gregg is a republican and former senator who served until 2011 and was a member of the

senate banking committee, runs a company that promotes job creation. welcome, senator. >> thanks for having me on. >> aren't you glad you're in the private sector now? >> well, i am. it's a little frustrating to watch what's going on. >> i can't even imagine. this idea of passing a series of bills to fund certain parts of the government, is that a good idea? >> it gets to the same end. it's ironic and a little amusing that at some point you basically have a clean resolution, you have a clean continuing resolution if you fund in parts most of the government. i'm not sure what point is made by that. seems to me they need to find the ground where they can reach an agreement on some sort of fiscal policy that's going to improve our deficit problem, improve our debt problem and settle the debt issue, settle the continuing issue, settle the debt ceiling and settle the sequester issue all at ones. the best proposal and best pathway. >> seems impossible to achieve.

>> i don't think so. i think as you see the smoke start to clear on this. it's obvious that the continuing issue this shutdown is going to roll into the debt ceiling issue, so you're going to have them both on top of each other soon, by october 17th. they're going to both have to be addressed. the only way you can address them both is take up the issue of how you deal with the sequester because that's the forcing mechanism for getting spending reductions. i think there's a chance to do something and if the parties would sit down and talk, then we could probably get something done. >> let me ask you about the partisanship, because you left the senate in 2011, and that heavyduty partisan seemed to start while you were still in office. i suspect that was not all that comfortable for you. is that fair? >> well, i've always thought that the purpose of government is to govern, and in a constitutional system built off of checks and balances as madison gave us that you have to go across the aisle to govern. that's just a simple fact.

there are rare occasions when the majority controls both the senate and the house with large majorities and has the presidency first two years of obama's, president obama's administration and lyndon johnson's administration have, but that's the exception. in most instances our system is built on the basis that you got to go across the aisle and compromise or else you don't get anything done. >> of course that doesn't happen anymore. do you recognize the republican party anymore? >> well, to begin with, it's not the republican party. there are a few folks in the republican party who have staked out this ground which is untenable, which is that you got to repeal obama care or you're not going to open the government. that's not a tenable position. the president's not going to repeal obama care. there are two issues which really aren't on the table for negotiation, one is repealing obama care, the other is raising taxes. republicans aren't going to do that. between the two issues there is a huge opportunity to get something done. i genuinely am optimistic that sound and reasonable people are going to come to the table fairly soon and try to get something done on an agreement

that will deal with the debt, deal with the deficit, and address the debt ceiling, address the sequester. >> bruce bartlett, former george h.w. bush administration official tweeted recently "there's a slight possibility that boehner is a genius and the tea party will die a well-deserved death in the next few days. fingers crossed." extreme language but is that your hope, too? >> well my view is that the tea party is not who knowledge nem . there are people not constructive to getting things done and getting the debt down and deficit reduced. people like speaker boehner, who is a very responsible and strong leader in my opinion who is trying to deal with the cards that have been dealt him, he's going to get the microphone back and in the senate, thoughtful republicans who want to get

something done have to get the microphone back and most importantly in my opinion the president has to get in to the room and negotiate. we're a nation built off of presidential leadership and he's got to be in the room negotiating. >> we'll see what happens, former republican senator judd gregg, thank you so much, senator, for joining us this morning. >> thanks. we'll be right back. ♪ at any minute... ...you could be a victim of fraud. most people don't even know it. fraud could mean lower credit scores, higher loan rates... ...and maybe not getting the car you want. it's a problem waiting to happen. check your credit score, check your credit report, at experian.com america's number one provider of online credit reports and scores.

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good morning. i'm carol costello. thank you for joining me this morning. like many stories it's not

simply a good guy/bad guy tale, black and white confrontation. group of motorcyclists and the driver of an suv, helmet camera went viral and there was outrage about the driver being dragged out of his car, beaten and slashed. the family of one of the bikers wants you to know he's paralyzed and in a coma. edwin meises was hit by the suv when the driver pulled away. here is what his wife is saying. >> my husband got off his bike to help the guy and whatever he did, he got scared, he went and peeled off and he paralyzed my husband on the way. >> the biker's mother was so emotional she could hardly bet her words out. >> i'm devastated. i'm devastated. all his ribs fractured, his lungs are so badly bruised. he's still on the ventilator. >> reporter tim fleischer from

affiliate wabc has more. >> this man in road rage and nobody mentions my husband in a coma paralyzed. >> reporter: fighting for his life, this is 32-year-old edwin mieses critically injured after what appears to be a dangerous and escalating series of events between a large group of motorcyclists and the driver of an suv heading up the henry hudson parkway sunday. police have now charged 28-year-old christopher cruz with causing this initial accident, seen here when he stopped short. others including edwin mieses got off their bikes. the suv driver lurches forward as seen in the video taken by another biker apparently hitting mieses and driving over his motorcycle after he feared for his wife and child with him. >> left him there for dead and left. >> the individual in the suv did

call, we responded to that call. >> reporter: the suv is moving and up to 30 bikers are giving chase. they surround the suv near the entrance to the cross bronx expressway. one biker tries to open the driver's door. >> they take their helmets and start to dent his car and apparently his tires are slashed there with a knife. >> reporter: the suv and the bikers take off again this time ending up here at 178th street and st. nicholas safe. bikers are smashing the suv windows with the helmets. the driver is slashed and assaulted after the video stops. police want to question these two biker, one with a flagsti flagsticker of guyana on his motorcycle. both are seen smashing the driver's window, one biker has since surrendered. >> i think we are trying to pull this all together. >> people are going on social media to vent their outrage.

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americans around the country fed up with their government showing their distaste for washington politics in many different ways. vietnam veteran at steven's point, wisconsin l continue flying his american flag upside down in protest of the shutdown. his flag is sending a message to

lawmakers, any way question help. lawmakers return to session next hour on capitol hill under the shadow of that shutdown and the thunder of growing public anger, republicans were hoping to blunt some of that public outrage by restoring funding to some of the more popular government programs, things like national parks, washington city services, and the nation's veteran affairs. that effort did not even survive the house, which is republican controlled, much less make it to the democratically controlled senate. cnn's athena jones is on capitol hill. i guess they'll try again today. >> that's right, carol. this is the situation where both sides are dug into their positions, the house republicans and senate democrats are sticki sticking firm to where they're standing and the problem is that they're not talking to each other, they're talking past each other so there's no real head-to-head negotiations going on. i spoke with a house republican leadership aide who said that as of right now there are no plans for house republicans to meet with or speak with senate democrats or with the white

house, but they are going to try again in the house today to pass those bills, what happened yesterday is that they tried to pass them under a rule that required democratic support. today they're going to try to pass those bills funding veterans affairs, washington, d.c., city services and national parks with the simple republican majority. they may also tack on a bill that would fund the national institutes of health, that's after seeing headlines of children with cancer being turned away from clinical trials, but we already know that those bills, even if they do pass the house this time, are going to be dead on arrival in the senate. the white house has also said this is not a serious approach if house republicans want to fund the government they should pass the overall spending bill with no strings attached. as you mentioned that thundering anger, let's take a listen to what happened at a republican press conference held by house republicans and senate republicans yesterday. >> you remember we the people? >> the colleague who has been

fighting for fairness. >> we don't want this shutdown and about 70% -- >> you might want to tell harry reid to end the shutdown. >> you guys are worthless! >> so you heard that from an angry protester. he was yelling "you guys are worthless, worthless, all of you. you can't run the government" so that's a sampling of the anger. both sides are trying to win the messaging war and doesn't look like either side is winning. people want the government to be running again. carol? >> didn't they realize that these things would shut down if they didn't fund the government? >> that's the question for house republicans. this is the messaging battle that will continue today and who knows how long this is going to last. the problem is this doesn't bode well for the next big fight which is the fight over the debt ceiling, which has even bigger consequences for the economy. >> i know, let's take one thing at a time there this morning, shall we? athena jones thank you so much. this friday is supposed to

be jobs day but a new message on the bureau of labor statistics says the agency is not collecting any data or issuing any reports. christine romans is in new york with that part of the story. good morning. >> reporter: and it says due to the suspension of government services, carol, when you look at that posting on the bls, the bureau of labor statistics website it reminds you the work of this government has stopped in many cases, and your government is not working for you, because your congress shut it down. that's what it looks like. you know, carol, every month on that first friday of the month we report to you the jobs numbers, the federal reserve looks at that, the government looks at that, employers look at that. everyone wants to get kind of a gut check of what's happening in private sector hiring and there's a pretty good chance we won't get that on friday. there is a chance, carol, that the white house, the office of personnel management could say let's release four or five statisticians and economists, the data has already been maybe collected, we can put that report together.

we get no guidance because the economic reports are not essential work and so no one can talk to us about it. it's very murky here. we do know the department of labor on its website has a posting saying that it will release the jobless claims on thursday, so we'll see that. here is the expectations economists still are, they're still doing their work, their expectations are 180,000 jobs created and today we have private sector report carol that showed 166,000 non-farm payrolls created in september. we have to go with that in the absence of any official news from the government. what it shows us, carol, there's nothing really spectacular happening in private sector hiring, just another reason why government shutdown is really bad timing. carol? >> gotcha. christine romans, many thanks. still to come, workers building a new rail line outside of london make a fascinating -- take a look. they found more ancient skulls. question is, who are they? we'll talk about that next. [ coughs, sneezes ]

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nasa tv may be shuddered by the shutdown so we have to turn our attention to hollywood. could be a good thing because the sandra bullock movie "gravity" hits the big screen and many people are excited about that. watch. >> no! >> hold on! houston, dr. stone -- you need to focus. losing visual. >> i can't breathe! >> gravity! >> what do i do? what do i do? >> i cannot wait to see this film. "gravity" had his premiere last night in new york, nischelle turner has the scoop for us. good morning. >> reporter: carol if you thought you were getting away from shutdown talk by coming to me hate to break it to you,

you're not. even on the red carpets talk was about the government shutdown. you'd expect nothing less from george clooney who co-stars and is political a aware, comes from a political family. he and sandra bullock weighed in on washington. >> i do think that cooler heads as you see them starting to move around will prevail. you see representative peter king and people like that on the right who want the 30 or so tea party group, who aren't them that come to shut down government, they don't want to do it and i think cooler heads will prevail. >> if the government shuts down does it mean i get to stop paying taxes for right now because they are not working? that is awesome. okay. for the amount they're closed i'm not paying my taxes and watch, i get arrested tonight. she said she's not paying her taxes. >> of course she was being sarcastic but let me just put it out there for anybody who thought she may have been you

know, serious. the irs is not conducting audits but you do still have to pay taxes. i have seen this movie. i know you said you were excited to see it. >> don't give anything away. >> you were in it, didn't you play her stunt double? you look alike. >> so many people tell me that and i'm so plattflattered by th because she's so nice and pretty. >> wish i had a split screen but this movie first of all is an hour and a half long but it feels like about three hours and not in a bad way because it's so intense. it really is. i literally started having palpitations like oh, my goodness. it's one of those feet-gripping movies so you're really like gripping it on both edges of your seat there, and you think about this, you look at her there, and it is every astronaut's worst nightmare, what happens if you get lost in space? and that's basically the crux of this movie. >> there's a deeper meaning

explored, what is it really like to be alone, alone. >> and you know what? it makes you think about that and makes you think about how do you react when you're just in the still of the moment, because she's in the still of it a lot in this movie. >> how do you handle abject fear? i can't wait to see the movie. nirv nischelle turner thank you so much. here's what's new in the next hour of "u.s. inroom" messages to washington. >> it's unfair to the public. it's unfair to the citizens of this great nation. >> we hit the streets of middle america to see what you have to say to your lawmakers. plus a double whammy for thousands of kids and their teachers, first the sequestration, now head start hit hard by the government shutdown. they're taking their fight for funds straight to the capital. and this -- >> doh! doh! >> one of the characters you've grown to love on "the simpsons" will be killed off this season, and we're getting just one vague hint about who. that's all new in the next hour

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for the first time in 21 years baseball's post season returned to pittsburgh. the pirates and reds squaring off in the wildcard game. what a game it was. hi, andy. >> pirates fans have been waiting a long, long time for an important game to be played in pittsburgh. you know the bucos didn't disappoint. it was a blackout. fans going nut it is entire game. russell martin coming through for the pirates. he hit two homeruns last night. the pirates never tailed in this one. they beat the reds 6-2.

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happening in the newsroom, a message to washington. >> get your act together or go home. >> more than 30 hours into the government shutdown we hit the street s of middle america to hear your frustrations. plus -- from web traffic to technical glitches it was a rocky start to the roll-out of obama care. are these just early snags or a sign of big trouble ahead. depends who you ask. and? >> all his ribs fractured. >> one man is in a coma in the hospital. two under arrest. controversy about what happened after an suv was swarmed by motorcycle riders. is it a case of biker bullying gone bad? then this. ♪ the simpsons >> ooh, there's a murder mystery in springfield. a major character on "the simpsons" is getting killed off and the producer is taunting us

with a clue about who it is. the second hour of "newsroom" starts now. ♪ we'll get to that mystery in a second. first, good morning, everyone . i'm carol costello. welcome to day two of the government being shut down. any whispers of compromise virtually silenced. on capitol hill the house is returning to session and the senate returns at the bottom of the hour. in the shadow of the dome and the power brokers the human toll of political brinksmanship. this is a rally for some of the most vulnerable victims. the 19,000 children who are now shut out of head start, the federal education program for preschoolers. in fact, there is no shortage of americans suffering and they are not suffering in silence. >> it's just unfortunate that we are being held hostage by congress in order to -- their

agenda is not our agenda. >> it makes no sense to us. the government -- it's their responsibility to pass a budget. it's the law. why didn't they? >> it's unfair to the public. it's unfair to the citizens of the great nation. it's just unfair that we had to experience these types of hardships because people can't get their act together and agree on something. >> as more americans are impacted by the shutdown, public anger grows. politicians need to step up their efforts to blame the other side. in an on p-ed john boehner accud president obama of scorched earth policy of refusing to negotiate in a bipartisan way. let's begin with the impact on head start. the thousands of families who depend on it. supporters of the program have gathered on capitol hill in protest of the cuts. one of the protesters is vanessa rich, board president for the

national headstart association. she's on the phone with us now. describe the scene for us out there. >> well, thank you for having us and allowing us to speak this morning. out here on the lawn we have a couple hundred -- and some of the children and their parents who are here in the background trying to draw attention to the fact that they are suffering. between the sequester and the shutdown, we are looking at over 70,000 young, vulnerable children being affected. >> talk about those families and how exactly they are affected. i know their parents probably have trouble finding them day care, for instance. tell us about their hardships. >> well, head start was targeted towards the poor in our country. those people who are working the

day-to-day jobs who can't afford to miss an hour without putting that job in jeopardy, who are starting back to school and getting their lives together. those are the families that we are targeting. the programs we are trying to provide for their children, it's catastrophic. >> last question for you. do you have any hope at this point that your funding will be restored? >> you know, i have great hope in the united states and in congress, believe it or not. you can't keep hitting little children. it doesn't work. the only way to bring this together is to look at the glass half full. i do believe they are going to pull it together. it i's just going to hurt families if they don't. >> i hope you're right.

vanessa rich with the national head start association. thanks for joining me. throughout this mess americans have held republicans the most to blame for the shutdown, at least until this point. what about the party faithful? do everyday republicans see it as a fight worth fighting? what's their message to washington. what are republicans on the street telling you, ted? >> reporter: you get a lot of views. there is disgust with the prevailing theme for both parties and capitol hill. some republicans say, you know, we are worried what's going to happen, the net effect is we are going to get blamed. there was that talk and others that say we don't think a government shutdown is so bad. listen. >> i think republicans get a lot of blame for it. i don't think it is their fault. there is plenty of blame to go around but they will get the blame, yeah. >> what would you say the to the president and harry reid?

>> i would say let's get off this my way or the highway stuff. let's compromise, figure out what pieces can work, figure out what pieces we can make work and adjust. >> my daughter is an irs agent. she's trying to figure out how to make her mortgage payment. does it concern me ? yes. do i think it will hurt republicans? i think it will hurt republicans and democrats. nobody wins. everybody comes across looking like a jerk. >> are you worried the shutdown wi hurt the party? >> no. i'm in favor of what they are doing, frankly. you can b see the world is coming to an end because of federal government shutdown. >> i think it's safe to say most people we talked to are concerned that if this does keep going then republican wills get the blame. there are people who hope this is a short-term shutdown. >> ted rowlands, thank you so

much. reporting from due page county, illinois, this morning. after all you have heard about the government shutdown what's your message to washington? we want you to make a video for us and send it to ireport.com. as the shutdown continues, just make sure you share your views on cnn. thank you for that. 8,000 federal workers are furloughed without pay. that's the combined work force of target, general motors, ek son and google. and they don't know when they will go back to work. the union president of the nay uh value post graduate school in california which is now closed with nearly all of its 1500 federal workers furloughed. good morning. >> good morning. as you watch the drama unfold on capitol hill, what goes through your mind? >> it's hard to describe without any positive words.

disappointment, frustration. you know, we pride ourselves on a good culture of motivated and energized employees. this is dealing a blow to morale. >> i i talked to someone from the cato institute yesterday. he said federal workers should expect this. they work for the federal government. so this is more of a slim-down than a shutdown. and they should be patient. what do you say to that? i think there is an expectation that you will come to work each day. i disagree that should be expected. you're not being paid at this moment. do you think that's fair?

>> well, they are at work. i will try to be objective and say they are in there working, they should be getting paid. but they have to have us at the forefront of what they are doing and realize we're not. i hope we are the constituents they are thinking about. >> are federal workers placing blame or does it matter? >> absolutely. it's almost like we are referring to them in washington. the first response would be, you know, as a whole. it might come down to a party line after that. we are disappointed here. it's hard to recover from this. pete randazzo.

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the new york city biker swarm story created a lot of buzz, much of it outrage over the beating of an suv driver. but there is another side of the story. before the driver was pulled out of the car and assaulted police say he hit three bikers while trying to get away. edwin mezeese is one of them and his family said he's paralyzed and in a coma. >> at least the first incident and at least apologized for saying something. anything, exchange of information or anything. i'm almost more than sure, i guarantee these people, it wouldn't have went any further. >> i don't condone the violence. there was no need for it. but he left. i'm glad they chased him down and stopped him. now they know who he is.

>> cnn's susan candiotti joins us with more. good morning. >> good morning, carol. the family of the biker said he was helping another biker who was hit when the suv driver rolled over him to get away from motorcyclists surrounding him. today two men are in custody and under arrest in connection with the bike ride that got way out of control. this biker is now under arrest for several charges including reckless endangerment after allegedly causing an suv to hit him. it set off a violent chain of 'ent s ending in a frightening attack. the man pounding on the suv has turned himself in to police. when the video cuts off, police say the driver is pulled out and assaulted. but he 's not the only victim of the dramatic ordeal that played out on new york city's west side highway. watch what happens earlier when the suv was still trying to get away from bikers.

edwin mezee was dragged under the suv. >> all his ribs, fractured. his lungs are so badly bruised he's still on the ventilator. >> reporter: seen here in a facebook page dedicated to him, he's now in critical condition. >> my husband got off his bike to help the guy. whatever he did, he got scared, he peeled off and paralyzed my husband on the way. >> reporter: the driver of the suv has not been charged, but nypd commissioner ray kelly isn't ruling it out. >> depends on whether or not your vehicle is being attacked, whether or not you think you are being attacked, whether or not your wife and child are in the car. you have to look at the totality of the circumstances. that's what we are doing. >> reporter: police are sorting things out and people are debating the consequences of what happened, includinging t t family of the biker who may be paralyzed and the suv driver who

said he did what he had to to save his family. carol? >> susan candiotti, thank you. checking other top stories at 16 past the hour. scary video shows a school bus crash from inside the bus. scary, right? washington state trooper says the bus driver hit another school bus and a truck. luckily there were no children on board at the time and no one was hurt. the driver was ticketed for negligent driving. she's under investigation by the school. a california meat producer expanded a re call of ground beef bound for the national school lunch program. central valley meet meat company said almost 90,000 pounds of beef i may contain small pieces of plastic. it was shipped to arkansas, nebraska and north carolina. a similar recall last month included montana, arkansas, texas. no illness or injuries were reported. looks like a normal landing but that's a highway, not a

runway. the pilot said the plane lost power during an inspection flight in florida. drivers saw the plane and got out of the way. after a quick repair the road was shut down and the plane took off again. a fencing coach uses a sword to foil a robbery. franko was shopping in nashville after fencing practice when he saw two men attack a couple with pepper spray and steal a purse. according to wsmv we he grabbed his sword. >> i charged towards them, you know, holding my epee up high, yelling at them. i kept yelling through the entire thing. they panicked, dropped everything they stole and took off. >> good for him. oh two suspects were arrested and jailed on $50,000 bond each. the coach told our affiliate, quote, you have to overcome your own fears. chrysler is reel calling more

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the federal government is shut down but obama care is still kicking -- or at least trying to. health care.gov now managing insurance exchanges in 34 states. more than 2 million have viftd and the traffic is leaving many with this message -- please wait. state websites are struggling to keep up. tom foreman has more for you. >> reporter: bank hopes to launch with a bang but it's been a sputter. look at the states in red where people experienced some problems with the websites as they try to look into and sign up for the program. our producers checked out the systems in new york. there was a message that said the system was suffering from an internal server error.

in maryland there were connectivity issues and the web page wasn't available. in new mexico, problems as well and in washington, the whole thing froze up and the state had to shut it down for troubleshooting. our team got through fine in kentucky, iowa, oregon , other places. while the problems were widespread they don't i appear to be universal. one person may find an issue in some state. many the same state somebody else, maybe not. the federal government is handling enrollment for 36 states which opted out of obama care and haven't established their insurance marketplaces. this is the message that many people receive from the federal site. we have a lot of visitors on the site now. we are working to make your experience better. please wait until we send you to the log in page and so forth. a lot of issues. not particularly unexpected. this is a massive, complicated program. president obama said he expected glitches. just listen. >> consider that a couple of weeks ago apple rolled out a new

mobile operating system. within days they found a glitch and fixed it. i don't remember anybody suggesting apple should stop selling iphones or ipads. >> the department of health and human re sources issued a statement in which they -- built a dynamic system and are prepared to make adjustments as needed and improve the customer experience. looks like there will be a fair number of adjustments to be made. it is just the beginning and this sign-up will go for at least six months. we'll see where they wind up. >> we'll see. tom foreman is live in washington. if we go on the site today, will it be easier? >> it should be. these are technical issues. for all the debate about obama care and whether it's good, bad, expensive, on time, all of that, this is a technical matter like any technical product rolled out there.

it does look like today many problems of yesterday have been fixed. probably they are encountering new problems but they are moving forward. >> tom forethe man live in wash warks thank you. still to come, battle lines over the government shutdown. democrats, republicans and the tea party. the powerful and pugnacious group making enemies on both sides of the aisle. before they sat down, one more time, just for themselves. before the last grandchild. before the first grandchild. smile. before katie, debbie, kevin and brad... there was a connection that started it all and made the future the wonderful thing it turned out to be... at bank of america, we know we're not the center of your life, but we'll do our best to help you connect to what is.

good morning. i'm carol costello. thank you very much for joining us. the government remains technically shut down. only partly because some people call it a slimdown. look at the fox news website. tell that to those going without a paycheck while congress continue it is to make money. i'm not sure they would consider it a slimdown. uh i think they consider it a shutdown. more people are affected by the shutdown who aren't federal employees like kevin morrow who is a freelance research er who re-elis on federal re sours like the library of congress to do his job. good morning, kevin. >> good morning. >> how does the shutdown affect your work? >> basically, it depends on

federal the resources to do my job. i do research at various archive re positive toirs like the national archives, library of congress, naval historical center. when they are shut down, i can't do my work basically. unless i have any projects ongoing that allow me to do work at a re search facility other than a federal research facility i'm pretty much dead in the water. >> this has more widespread repercussions than people realize -- this shutdown. >> definitely. yes. >> i just want to ask. i know you were a federal employee during the last shutdown 17 years ago. what was that like and how does it compare to this shutdown? >> during the last shutdown not only myself but three other family members were working for the federal government at the time. we were all sent home. it was pretty infuriating.

we didn't know if we were going to get paid. one of the big differences with the last shutdown was a republican congressman in northern virginia, tom davis, volunteered to put his congressional salary in an escrow account during the crisis. something i'm not seeing now. so at least the last time there were a few people going to bat for us on the republican side. there are some, but you are not hearing from them. federal employees have it good. listen to him respond. >> there are millions of workers out there who have taken pay cuts through a recession whose income goes to those people who had it good, the federal

employees in washington over the past few years while the rest of the country suffered paying the bills. >> your thoughts? >> well, i would say that's inaccurate. in the sense that it sounds like the individual is portraying federal workers as having things better than the rest of everybody else. that may be only because they actually have jobs that they can depend on except in times like this. if you're a senior -- >> well, you know the rub on federal workers. this guy saying, hey, they have great jobs. they should be grateful. they should expect these things to happen. >> as a freelancer we expect this to happen because we are used to short periods of unemployment.

it's outrageous, honestly. really outrageous for him to say that. >> a lot of lawmakers are very wealthy individuals. i have heard from federal workers that it bugs them like, you know, you are still continuing to accept a paycheck and here i am waiting to see when my next paycheck is coming? >> or if i will get paid, yeah. i think you are going -- a lot of federal employees who hear it will be upset. >> i think you're right. thanks for joining us this morning. i appreciate it. >> thank you. >> on capitol hill the house is back in session, trying to create a budget a la carte. republicans now crafting a serieses of bills to fund everything noncontroversial. national parks, yes. veterans affairs, yes.

obama care, no. it's an idea sparked by tea party republican ted cruz. >> i think we ought the to start passing continuing resolutions narrowly focused on each of the things the president listed. he said border patrol agents won't be paid. fine, a continuing resolution for border agents. he plans to close the national parks. fine, fund the interior, keep the parks open. one at a time, let's demonstrate the same bipartisan cooperation we saw with the military and address all of the people he's. >> our cnn political analyst and also he works at the daily baste and is in washington to talk tea party and more. first off, even if the house passes the a la carte bills the president would likely veto them, right? >> maybe not just likely.

the white house has issued a veto threat. we don't expect the senate to take it up. it uh would require the senate taking it up and going to the president's the desk. we never expected it to get that far. this is the fourth loop we have seen. the house proposes something. the white house puts out a veto through the administration threat. the senate dismantled whatever the house sent them. it goes back around in a circle. this is the fourth circle of this. >> so could you consider this a step forward in any i way? >> no. i think actually this is just sort of the same kind of cycle that we have been see. i know i wouldn't consider it that. >> all right. stick around. i want to bring john in to talk about the tea party and the power of the tea party now. a lot of people say the tea the party is controlling republicans in the house and are responsible for the government shutdown. there are signs at least some republicans are now fighting back. so, john avalon, i think it is

hard to believe just a small number of tea party republicans could be controlling what the government does. >> well, it may seem stunning. it may seem like a derivation in democracy but this is what's happening. this is the problem with extreme s. they are their own side's worst enemy. responsible republicans are starting to realize that they may have made a deal with the devil in the past encouraging folks who are interestinged in grand standing more than governing. the serious under tone is the two sides aren't talking now. the government shutdown, we are not talking two days, but two weeks here. this is a crisis in the democracy. it's not about obama care. it's about something more serious. >> the house speaker john boehner is a smart guy.

why doesn't he override the tea party members and get something through the house the senate might consider? >> it's not just about these tea party members which could be as few as a few dozen folks. it's also that there is a large contingent of republicans who if they vote their conscience would vote for a clean bill to fund the government. they are concerned about the election. they are afraid in a way of really more what the opinion is of the tea party contingent members and it may reflect what some of the voters in the district think. i know you have been pointing it out. there are republicans who say let 's pass a clean funding bill. i can almost guarantee that either they do not have a really strong contingent of tea party

voters in the district or they have voters who are maybe contracting with the government or the military or they have other concerns that push toward getting it over with. >> seems like if the tea party remains strong, and you have written many books about the movement saying their power is somewhat diminished. but it doesn't seem that way. >> we have a real disconnect. in terms of popular support the tea party is waning, seen as a problem in washington. a source of dysfunction rather than a solution to it. inside congress, the party itself, because the dynamic where folks in the republican party are really more worried about losing a primary challenge than a general election because of the system of redistricting, their power has been artificially increased. that's leading to this crisis. so you have a disconnect between partisan politics in washington and main street americans. the ultimate result is what we

are seeing today. speaker john boehner, suffering from stockholm syndrome. people forcing him into this position, stopping a clean continuing resolution to fund the government, from focusing on legacy items like immigration re form, he can't do that because he's held captive by folks on the far right. they have spooked everybody into thinking they will primary challenge them. that's a disconnect and a growing sense of frustration as people realize the shutdown isn't going ai way soon. >> i was going to pose that question to brianna. predictions on how long the shutdown may last? >> we have heard from folks on both sides. it could last weeks. it's unclear at this point. i don't think it is going away in the next couple of days. the issue is when you are looking at the debt ceiling on october 17 as the shutdown pushes on, all of this gets

squished together if they are going to avert budget battles it will be dealing with the shutdown and the debt ceiling in addition to whatever concessions the white house and senate democrats may give to achieve those end s. >> thanks for the discussion this morning. i appreciate it. this is cnn breaking news. >> some sad news to pass along to you now. the author tom clancy died. he was just 66 years old. tom clancy wrote "the hunt for red october," a great bestselling author. tell us more. >> we are just getting word. we have confirmed that tom clancy did die yesterday . we are still trying to get details of what happened. the new york times is reporting he died in baltimore yesterday. you mentioned some of his work. he was the bestselling author known so much for his work that

put jack ryan in our books and on television. "the hunt for red october" was his first novel published in 1984. basement a bestseller after president reagan complimented the book. he went on the to write a host of books centered around character jack ryan. in 2003 he published "the teeth of the tiger." that made jack ryan, jr., the central character. he has a book to be out december 3 called "command authority." that's the latest book in his arsenal he's had there. but, again, we are getting word in that tom clancy has died at the age of 66. we are still getting more details on this. of course we'll follow it throughout the day. >> he's from baltimore county, maryland. a long-time resident of baltimore. tom clancy dead at the age of 66. hopefully we'll have more information to pass along soon.

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washington state, the same thing. the federal website is handling sign-up for 36 states including pennsylvania. that's where 25-year-old lauren hartley tried to sign up. >> and then on the third page i asked for, you know, security questions but the page just wasn't populated. so there was some kind of technical glitch. it wasn't working. >> reporter: by midday the president and lcritics were weighing in. >> like every law, every new product roll-out there will be glitches along the way that we'll fix. i have been saying it from the start. we're going to speed things up in the next uh few hour uhs to handle the demand that exceeds anything you expected. >> reporter: a system that's full of glitches. >> that's the word being used today. glitches means it's not working. i don't think those glitches get better over the next few weeks. >> what's going to go on now.

>> reporter: in lexington, kentucky, 62-year-old howard stovall runs a business making signs. >> health care costs, like everybody's have been going up every year. this year if we do nothing and keep the same plan it will be a 30% increase. >> reporter: he has high hopes for obama care. >> we expect to have a lot more variety in what's available to us and to our employees. >> reporter: 3:00. he decides to take a crack to see what he can buy for his workers and for himself. >> this is the kentucky site. click on the individuals plan. we have an error. it says you can call customer service. i think we'd probably just get a busy signal now. we have been at it for a while here. i'm still hopeful long term. we have gotten errors and roadblocks and some confusing requests to download software.

>> reporter: he wasn't alone. in south carolina i talked to nearly a hundred people on day one and not one was able to get on the sign-up site. pretty common problem, carol. i know you have been talking about this. we heard from hhs that 3 million people tried to get online and sign up. here in kentucky, only 2900 people were successful. that gives you an idea. that confused things for people in a state like kentucky you've got a democratic governor, two senators. mitch mcconnell and rand paul with different views and messages they are send ing about the program. that adds to the confusion. >> here is the problem for the obama care station. you're a young person. you tried to get online to no avail. are you going to try again? if you're uh conflicted, keep in mind obama care needs as many young people to sign up as possible. that's partly how it will fund

obama care -- through insurance policies that young people buy. >> that's absolutely right. you know, look. i think people will try again. this open enrollment period is six months long. hard to predict what people's behaviors will be. that was day one. supposedly things improve ed a little bit on day two. it's hard to get information because some of the workers from whom we would get the information have been furloughed. it adds more to this. i think keep in mind that what drives us is this individual mandate. people who can afford to buy health care insurance must buy it, face a penalty . people who can't afford it can get a subsidy. but everyone can purchase it in one way or another over the next six months. >> sanjay gupta, thank you so much. i know you are in maryland tomorrow with question questions people are asking about obama care there. check out sanjay every weekend on cnn. thanks, sanjay. we'll be right back. [ male announcer ] this is brad.

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