hours to go uil the debt ceiling deadline begins. we heard from president obama a short time ago that does it for this edition of 360. we'll be back an hour from now, live edition of 360 later live on capitol hill. on capitol hill. "piers morgan live" starts now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com this is "piers morgan live." welcome to the viewers in the quite and around the world. tonight breaking news, the frantic last-minute deal to reopen the government and raise the debt ceiling with the deadline less than three hours ago, the senate voted to avoid a default and get federal agencies back running and back to work. the senate floor there says yes but will the gop controlled house say yes. if the house does approve it brings a temporary end to the crushing and bitter partisan battle that's taking a heavy toll across america. president obama spoke just a short time ago. listen. >> i want to thank the leaders of both parties for getting us to this point.

once this agreement arrives on my desk, i will sign it immediately. we'll begin reopening our government immediately. >> more on that breaking news, the deal the president has been waiting for is now before the house. joining me is senior white house correspondent brianna keeler and dana bash. breanna, they are claiming it's not a great victory the white house but it is, isn't it? >> well, i think in washington terms it might be a victory in that president obama is less a loser than some of the other folks here, piers, but i think when you look at for instance maybe in moms he's the winner and dog better than democrats and democrats doing better than republicans but this is the first year after his reelection and he doesn't have a lot to show for it. this is a year the reelected president should have mojo to reaccomplish something and poll numbers do not equal a legacy and not only that, it's possible we could be here all over again although i asked the president

about it. here is the question and answer. >> is this going to happen all over again in a few months? >> no. >> he seemed pretty sure there, piers, that it's not going to happen all over again but remember, this is a short-term funding bill. it only goes until mid january. he's going to have to deal with some of the same dynamics here, but white house officials insist that it just doesn't make sense republicans would pick this fight again, that they were such losers in all of this and that as they get closer to the midterm elections, the negative impact on them will even -- will just be that much greater and so they say it doesn't make sense but it really stands to -- we'll have to wait and see if that happens. >> i think if not making sense was the criteria for not doing things, we wouldn't be in this mess to start with. dana bash, what is the mood in this because clearly republicans are ripping each other apart and

been deemed to be a disaster. having said that, ted cruz is out there front and center positioning himself as the new key man and may see it as a short-term set back but part of a much wider war. >> oh, he certainly does and he believes that in his world of conservatives and the people he's appealing to out there that think he's doing the right thing that he is a winner. the problem really is as much as republican leaders, in particular in the house today in a private meeting begin to heal the wounds, they are not going to be healed if ted cruz continues and others like him continue to say that their strategy was right and they woke up the american people and so forth. you definitely are seeing maybe an even bigger divide as these days and hours go on and more moderate republicans that i talked to in the hallways here are more vocal says the republican party, particularly

those in the house because they are the only part in the government that has control where republicans have control, they have to be more aggressive in working with democrats and being bipartisan and being part of the conversation or they will be left out in the cold. that's definitely the feeling here but you can be sure, according to sources that i have talked to, especially those who were in this meeting earlier today with john boehner, eric canter and kevin mccarthy, the three republican leaders, they are trying hard to heal the wounds even though they admitted this is a big-time defeat. >> what will happen next over the next few hours and indeed, tomorrow morning. >> we're really waiting for the bill physically the bill that just passed the senate to come down, probably even this hallway into the house. i moved over to the house side because this is where the action will be tonight and then it's just a matter of time before the house gets this on the floor. republican leaders are trying to

work an expedited process so they don't have to wait here all night into the wee, wee hours but we'll see if that will happen. we should see a vote probably before midnight, maybe even sooner. >> i will be waiting until the wee, wee hours, as i suspect you will, dana, because you never sleep. brilliant job and we'll see you again. a live show at midnight so we'll come back with an update then. thank you. with me is mark prior of arkansas whose on the senate appropriations committee. welcome to you senator. what is your take on all this? i mean, clearly the people who suffered the american people and all those who have been furloughed and the american akon me, are they winners and losers politically, do you think? >> i don't know but this was completely avoidable and i think most people understand that and my view of it is that you have a small group of republicans, mostly on the house side but a small group of republicans. it's not all republicans but a small group driving the train and they just about drove us

over the cliff here. and it's not good for the country. i hope today really is a win for bipartisanship. i was part of the bipartisan group led by susan collins of maine and we put together basically the frame work the leaders used and glad to do it and it works and even though most people will never tell you this, you know, on talk radio, the only way you get things done in washington is by working together and doing in a bipartisan way. hopefully this is a victory. >> you talked about a train. let's go to the engine driver, mr. cruz. let's watch this. >> i'm confident in time the u.s. senate will follow the lead of the house of representatives and listen to the american people. that is our job. that is our responsibility. this is a terrible deal today, but it's a terrible deal for the american people. >> now sarah palin was the queen of the tea party and now we have

a king of the tea party. he's smart and articulate and i spoke to alan who called him one of the most brilliant students he had. this guy has a plan and strategy and my gut feeling is he wants to run the republicans into 2016 and be your representative. can anyone stop him? >> well, you know, we'll let the political process work. he'll go through the republican primary process and if they nominate him, they nominate him and who knows who the democrats will have. i think one of the points important to make is i try to very hard, very, very hard to listen to the people of the state of arkansas. that's who i work for and i live in arkansas and when i'm home, i hear over and over and over people say why can't you guys just get along? if y'all could get along, everything would work smoother and they are right. that the how you get things done is by working together and i think people are fed up with washington and understandably so. i'm fed up with it.

we don't need this my way or the highway approach. we need a bipartisan, a more measured -- a surer, better way to go forward and go forward together and that's what a lot of us want to do. a lot of time our voices get drowned out by the loud voices, the very loud voices on extremes. >> senator, thank you very much indeed for joining me. breaking news, i believe the house now has got the bill. so i would imagine, be expecting a vote to commence fairly shortly. we'll be right with you obviously live on cnn. i'll be back live at midnight. i want to bring in jack kingston in georgia and the chairman of the house democratic caucus. welcome to you both gentlemen, smiling looking happy to be next to each other. >> always happy. >> by paipartisan joy, what has taken you guys so long to bang your heads together and get some

sense here? let me start with you, if i may, jack kingston. >> i think you have to go through this process. you know, as you know, we're not real wild about obama care. so we tried our best to defund it. then we tried to delay it and then we try to put congress under it and tried to have vincvinc individuals treated the same way as corporations and lost. we wanted to go to negotiation with the senate and we have some agreement we'll do more negotiating. sometimes you have to go through these things. it's just part of democracy. it not always clean and easy, but i think that the good thing is that we do have a process that allows us to have these debates and yet, we all know that we have to get back to work in the morning and try to come up with solutions on the budget and solutions on health care that are in the interest of america. >> the number one rule of battle is you never start a fight you can't win. what has seemed to most observe,

seasoned observers of washington was the battle that was struck to try and defund obama care was from the very start fatally flawed because it would never succeed even ideal with members of the republican tea party. so that game plan was a disaster from day one, wasn't it? >> i would say they got disconnected from the american people in this one and i agree with jack that democracies are sometimes mess sigh. they are sometimes slow and i hope what i hear jack saying is that we won't go through this again because in three months we'll actually have to reup the budget again. so we should be prepared to do this on a bipartisan basis. you can't always hit the ball out of the park in the bottom of the ninth with two outs. we can't continue to do this because the folks that suffer aren't members of congress but folks back home.

there were a lot of americans put out of work for over two weeks and americans anxious whether they will be able to pay they are mortgage tomorrow. hopefully what this teaches all of us is that we can work together and we can do it without forcing the american people to suffer the consequences of what happens here in congress. >> now, we're hearing that the house now has the bill. let's come down from the senate. jack kingston. how will you vote on this? >> i'm going to vote no on it and i'll tell you why in the 17 previous shut downs and in the five previous debt ceiling summits, there was always something that corrected spending, reduced spending in washington and this agreement is absence of that. now, we do hope that during this conference committee, which was long over due, i want to say that from the beginning. we should have had the budget working on this in april with the senate but looming over them

is sequester. it cuts out the muscle blindly. >> just to clarify, you're going to vote no. if everybody on the republican side voted no like you, then america would basically go into default on the debt. are you prepared personally to carry that burden. >> having voted three times to keep the government open with the c.r. two weeks ago, i think i've shown that i do not want the government to shut down, nor do i want the government -- >> you say that but with respect to you, congressman, if everybody else did what you're doing tonight, that's exactly what would happen. i put it to you again, speaker boehner admitted you lost the battle, what is the point in voting no when the only direct result of that would be america going into a catastrophic economic default? i'm curious. >> well, here is what you have.

you have a national debt that's 16% -- excuse me, 16 trillion dollar is 100% of the gdp for every dollar 42 cents is borrowed. we can't escape from that. that's compared to what lies ahead if china or other lenders say you to restructure debt -- >> congressman, with respect again, chinese people who are watching this businessmen and politicians, they want people like you to vote no tonight. they would love the house to throw it out, to cause total economic melt down in america so china emerges dominant economically. so i say to you i don't understand why you would be prepared to risk that over something your own speaker already said has been a failure. i don't get it. >> well, i think that there is a -- maybe a debate that we have not really had about what actually happens at the stroke of midnight tonight, as you remember, this was the secretary of treasury who said we're going

to go into default. we're going to reach the debt ceiling in april. no, i mean may. no, i mean july. maybe august. now suddenly it the 17th of october. i believe that is a soft deadline. i also say the bigger parol out there is changing the course of run away spending and that's what i have a grave concern about -- >> final word, if you don't mind. >> piers, first, if we put ourselves in the shoes of the american people, we wouldn't go through this exercise of waiting new mexico the last moment to do this. american folks, american families when they go through this they have to make tough decisions. this is crazy. this is not the way you run the smallest business on main street. it shouldn't be the way to run the largest economy in the world. the short-term budget i don't like because republicans numbers which cooks in sequester which

we've been told will cost us some 800,000 jobs. this slows down economic growth. but you have to come to common ground and solutions so a lot of us as democrats, why we don't like this because we're going down to the republican number on the budget temporarily, it's a way to keep us moving forward with the budget and without defaulting. >> congressman, thank you both for joining me. appreciate it very much. we'll bring you the vote when it happens. how soon will the government reopen, and now what about the republican party? that's all next. [ male announcer ] who loves social networking as much as you?

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breaking news on the deal to raise the debt ceiling and reopen the government. the senate approved it and now the house has the bill. we'll bring all the votes as soon as they start coming in. wall street celebrating, stocks gained 200 points. joining me now is host of cnn's your money and jonathan chase daily columnist and larry kudlow. what a wonderful array of great titles, i must say. christine romans. >> sure. >> your reaction, first off all, to what happen, in particular s&p issuing this statement saying we believe to date the shut down shaved at least 9.6% off gdp growth or taken 24 billion-dollar out of the economy. >> my reaction is after three

weeks and $24 billion congress agreed to, drum roll, please, do it's job. that's two full years of the school lunch program for example. that's the gap we have in airport improvements that really important infrastructure. you could recover that if we weren't in this per pbudget fig mess. don't put this countdown clock away because we'll have to pull it out again in a few months. if we didn't have all of this budget fighting, maybe you would make up the 24 billion but we're at the beginning of congress doing it's job. >> jonathan in your new york magazine, probably the single biggest republican mistake failing to understand the behavior would create unity in the opposing party, which is a terrific point to make. explain to me what you think happens to the republican party.

>> it's hard to say. this is a chaotic and dysfunctional party and i don't see evidence they have really acknowledged the scale of the mistake. the sort of most extreme republicans wanted to shut down the government but the less wanted to threaten depault. so you're talking about two different levels of recklessness but reckless wings, who knows who will prevail next time. >> richard quest, the damage to the american credibility here in terms of the way it manages politics and economy has been pretty disastrous. do you get the feeling they understand how bad? >> i think they somehow have got a vague idea how bad because they have been told by every leader and finance minister but hasn't computed if you like and the results tonight, around the world there will be a wave of gut relief that the worst has been avoided. but there will also be a shutdown that they will go through this again in a few

months time, and that's going to be the big problem for america, when it sits down with it's international partners in economic discussions. there are people that will say, so you were going to go through this again? >> larry kudlow, that is what will happen. we kicked the can down the road and in january, february the same battle will be fought. i look at ted cruz and see a man on a mission. i don't see a guy that wants to sit down with john mccain and republicans and be mr. nice guy. he wants to take drive and drive the agenda. >> and he'll continue to do so no matter what is said. >> can he be successful? >> i don't know. he was not successful in some sense. the defunding strategy with which i happen to disagree did lead to the shut down and did lead to a variety of problems and did lead to a lot of devie sieveness, particularly in the house of representatives. i don't know if cruz will stay

with defunding. one thing he succeeded, i'll give him credit and his ocho poenlt nets will. he brought the issue of obama care front and center and it had a disastrous beginning and very unpopular in the polls and the president will have to deal with that through the next round of budget talks. i think it will be very difficult to leave obama care alone as he's essentially left alone in this evening's deal. so i will give cruz his due on that point, however, i also agree that we haven't lose our credibility. i don't buy that. but i don't know why in 90 days is what they left for the debt ceiling and the continuing resolution and actually that has put a budget together which will end the sequester and entitlement reform, these things take a long time. i was a budget guy in the regan years and understand a little bit. why just three months? christine is right, we'll have to go through the same exercise

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resolution is virtually clean. and is essentially -- >> breaking news. you're looking live at the house of representatives, back in session and beginning to debate the bill. if it pass, the president promised to sign it as soon as it hits his desk. christine. left you with a dilemma to ponder. has this become used like warren buffet said nuclear political poll and does that do the economy a disservice? >> the found e of the world's largest bond fund a couple hours ago said we shouldn't have a did he believe ceiling because the point is if congress or members of congress are so upset about the debt ceiling and amount of debt, they need a budget in the first place and priorities and spending plans in the first place that don't rack up the debt. instead of focussing and trying to use political mite to agree on how to run the country, they

are just fighting about paying the bills. the treasury department is just paying bills. congress' job, it's job is to write the law to spend the money. they need to do that, not focus on the debt ceiling at the end but focus on spending priorities out front end and they haven't been able to do that since 2009. >> on that last point i don't agree. it a come beer some process. it came from the debt ceiling debate of 2011. spending is coming down in the u.s., very interesting. i would suggest a spending rule rather than the did he belieebt. spending should be less than such and that would take the debt problem out of the way because you have to finance your obligation. it's effect they've in recent years. >> doesn't matter which way you

look at it, how you cut this, at the end of day this is the most overused phrase at the moment. this is the can that is going to be kicked down the road. now, if you take this poor battered old can and look at how many times its been kicked, larry, in fiscal year 2011 it was kicked eight times down the road. in fiscal year '12 it was kicked six times down the road and into this year it's already twice down the road but it's worse than that. look at when they start kicking this can and you really start to see the problem. the first debt ceiling crisis, 2011 nasty and hard. the u.s. lost the aaa credit rating and then you had the fiscal cliff. we're back with the battered, miserable. >> amazing that can is still surviving. >> it's just surviving the it leaking, just surviving and i'm sorry, larry, at the end of the day that's the problem. >> gary -- >> let me go quickly to

jonathan. what about the relationship between corporate america and the republican party? corporate america wrote big checks for the campaigns and ted cruz raised quite significant sums of money throughout the last two weeks. >> right. >> what will happen going forward? where will wall street put the cash, the moderate believing they have the best chance of victory or will it go with the bright young dynamic ted cruz on his rampage? >> i don't think they like ted cruz. but this is a complicated relationship. wall street likes most of the policy agenda that the republicans, even the tea party republicans like. they agree with each other. they don't like regulating wall street. they don't like the today frank regulation and the environment and don't want to tax the rich people, they want rich people to pay less taxes. they disagree that wall street doesn't want the republican party to threaten worldwide

economic calamity. they want to operate through normal legislative channels and stop destroying things. republicans want the same things wall street want for the most part, they just disagree on the methods. >> christine romans, in terms of the market rallied again today, it hasn't actually been that procare use because i believe they thought it would be resolved and it would be until the last minute, but what about january and february when richard's can comes back into play? >> richard's poor can scaring the children at home. it could continue into february and the fed is less likely to pull back on the stimulus going into the market. market participants say look, we don't like how uncertain it is

and there could be more but the fed will keep the foot on the gas now, so that's good news for the $85 billion a month going into the market. >> i have to cut you off and thank you-all very much. i have to cut you off because i got ann sitting outside spitting blood like a violent tumor ready to come in and salvage me. she has strong views about where republicans are going and i want to hear them live and unleashed after this break. [ male announcer ] this is brad.

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i want you to imagine, mr. president, if senate republicans stood together and simply supported house republicans and the american people. >> ted cruz tonight just moments before the senate vote to end the fiscal stalemate. senator cruz may be dreaming of the gop but you know there is trouble. welcome back to you. >> thank you, good to be here. >> i like having you on my show. >> me, too, and i'm not turning on conservatives.

i consider myself the consecutive -- >> your book is fascinating because you get to the heart of problem, which is what is the direction of a successful republican party, one that can win e leks actually going to be? >> yes, i want them concentrate on winning, passion is important but scoring but i really like what these guy haves been doing. it like they read my instructions in the first chapters. >> which guys? >> ted cruz, mike lee, the republicans. i don't think they needed to keep going. i think it's fine it shall. >> i hate to pour bad news duh the republicans had the worst approval ratings in history. >> i'm so glad you mentioned that. >> how is that a success? >> this is driving me absolutely crazy. the two polls are pure propaganda. the gallup poll and wall street poll, one e-mailed me and a democratic pollster and was so

annoy annoyed, he said half of the adults can't name the vice president. that's irrelevant. it kind of split. we wouldn't talk about obama care for the last three weeks. it's clear the republican party stands for revisiting obama care. we are not just letting the democrats -- >> hang on, hang on. let take that point because i actually think that is obviously going to be a good strategy, obama care is a dee sigh sieve thing -- let's get to the thing that we agree obama care is a target rich environment. the way they lunched it and the way it's set up and works, the system is clearly deeply flawed so whatever your argument the merits of it, it not been working successfully. that's where republicans target it. ted cruz will be front and center of that, obviously, but how does this help republicans win at the midterms or in 2016 if all it does is create a party

of various leaders. >> important branding. the republican party is not just allowing the democrats to say we passed this bill with two houses voting on a different bill uncontusionly and the president -- >> the law. >> lots of things are laws. >> it's a major law. >> that never stops liberals, which i wrote and you didn't read. what usually happens is no matter how something gets through, you won't remember this but jimmy carter creates the department of education as teacher's unions, regan's campaigns on ending the department of education. do we still have the department of education? yes, we do. republicans generally just say, oh, well, we lost that, let's move on. republicans aren't just moving on. the second thing it does is make the point at the beginning of my book here, we have to win elections. >> right.

>> how does christine oclook no >> he said ted cruz, one of the brightest people he's ever taught and also one of the best debaters and one of the people that really argued really successfully. you can see that. >> yes. >> he's a dynamic guy and smart and fresh and all those things, but can he actually bring enough of his own party with him to be a real force leading the party? and if he can't, where are you going to go? is it someone like eric cantor? should he be the new speaker? >> no. >> is it a chris christie figure? >> we'll see how things shake out. all i care about if you're talking about the presidential candidate is that it be a senator or governor. we only allow these in debates. what is wonderful about mike lee and ted truz and the third thing i think we have gotten out of the last three weeks is they are probably the two smartest united states senators.

are there any other senators for the supreme court. they haven't been nasty or back biting. they are young and attractive and yes, a good face for my party. >> there is a new face heading potentially to the u.s. senate, because i can reveal breaking news from new jersey and the special u.s. senate elections. c, th cnn is projecting tonight corey booker is the winner. the nominee will take his place in the u.s. senate and a rising star for democrats and tonight a key victory for him. once again, cnn projects corey booker is the winner in the new jersey special u.s. senate election. you must be thrilled, ann. >> i can't say i'm surprised. everybody sort of knew it would be booker. >> did you look booker as a politician? i like -- >> funny you mention that. at the end of my last book "mugged" i sited him. we'll see how he does. no matter how good they are in state ors cities, once think get

to the senate they are under the control of chuck schumer so i assume it will go down. >> what happens under the control of chuck schumer. >> or harry reid. >> do you think you're it's any better? >> yes. >> stay with me, when we come back the president stands his ground. did republicans under estimate his winning lest to wait them out? sure ann would agree with that. [ male announcer ] this is joe woods' first day of work. and his new boss told him two things -- cook what you love, and save your money. joe doesn't know it yet, but he'll work his way up from busser to waiter to chef before opening a restaurant specializing in fish and game from the great northwest.

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mr. scott, georgia. the gentleman from georgia is recognized for one minute. >> back with the breaking news to reopen the government and raise the debt ceiling. i'm back with the always outspoken ann cauter.

let's talk about ted cruz. will it be as simple as monday morning, right obama care off we go for real because we got other stuff out of the way? >> i think the important part of the strategy is to teach republicans we need to win elections. i go through some of them at the beginning of the book and mentioned one now. was that a good idea to run christine o'donald against in delaware hasn't voted for a democrat for president in 18 years. gosh, i wish we had a moderate republican mayor now. we had three guys mulling about abortion and rape. we had campaign consultants running candidates who could never win in connecticut and west virginia vebecause they wanted to line pockets -- >> should the party line more tea party conservative or is that hazardous in a general election because the country, if you look at polls on gay marriage and so on they are not with republicans, whether you

would love them to be or not? first of all, i dispute that. about 36 states voted, the people voting on gay marriage and they reejected it. 36 states including oregon and california. >> the majority of the polls say americans are now in favor of it. >> that's probably a poll of all adults then. >> you can't criticize all polls. >> i can when there are 36 state votes. i think i know what americans think on that one. there may be issues when you can tell me -- >> my point is -- my sense is younger people in particular, president obama runs very good elections with young people. >> i think the ocbama magic goe away with other -- >> you do? hillary clinton? you think she will be the democrat nominee? >> i think so. i think it will be a rerun of -- sorry this is a new york r

reference of christine quinn. i don't think so. >> who would you most fear on the democrat side? >> obama. once you take him out, i think as long as we don't run todd aiken we are doing fine. >> who would you like >> who's the most electable right now? >> that remains to be seen. please republicans no more inspirational leaders. >> what about chris christie? very popular. >> could he win you an election? >> if he were the republican candidate. >> your book makes it very clear we can have all the rhetoric and passion we like but i want to find somebody who can win. >> you're thinking more of a liberal. >> i'm not putting words in your mouth. i'm saying who do you think can exercise your desire to have a winner? >> i'm not sure i want to see them deinn debates. a bunch of governors and

senators including mike lee and ted cruz. let's see them in debates and how it shakes out. on your point on more tea party and less tea party it varies from state to state. the democrats have these incredibly conservative democrats you never hear about. mark pryor you just had him on from arkansas. mary landrieu of louisiana. are they down has ration these conservative democrats? no, bob casey in pennsylvania, they know this is the best we're going to get in these states. why are tea partiers, not tea partiers, it's diletantes. why are they demanding purity from republicans in a state that is a liberal state? it's madness. not thinking about winning elections. >> in the end republicans have to show unity when they fight a general election. last time you basically had again the division with the tea party and the moderates and so. you can see exactly the same bubble beginning to boil up again. you've got a male sarah palin, a much more formidable version of

sarah palin in ted cruz. >> ted cruz? >> isn't he the new sarah palin? isn't he the new king of the kaep where she was once queen? >> i don't see the analogy but i love them. >> my point is, do you think he could be more electable to a wider cross-section just to win the nomination? if not anything else of republicans? >> we'll see. it's very possible. look, there will be arguments in a party of ideas. that is one thing as i point out in this book. democrats have an advantage. all they want is power. they spend their lives figuring out how do we get elected so we can run other peoples's lives. >> conservative republicans don't do that? >> no. look at how we do in elections. we lose all asup elections. >> republicans don't want power and don't want to tell us how to run our lives. on that bombshell let's take a break while i have another cup of coffee. we'll be back with ann coulter and my rival book that's going to be taking on hers. you the jury, america.

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back with ann coulter author of a new book "never trust a liberal over three, especially republicans." we've got book wars this week. i can reveal to my viewers for the first time, i have a book out. there it is "shoot the straight." a journal diaries of my time at cnn with a focus on the gun campaigning that i've done. you have a book out here. i think similarities here. there's a very fetching picture of you on the cover, equally fetching picture of me on the cover of mine. some people can make an esthetic choice. in terms of the content, mine is 324 pages, yours is 377. so a little bit more chunky. >> shockingly long for one of mine. you know why? there's no chapter more than ten pages. a lot of it is greatest hits of mine from the last ten years. >> greatest hits? >> yes. it's in part a column book. >> do you know you also talk about guns, gays, and george clooney? we have in common.

>> because mine covers everything under the sun. i have a crap ter of crime, christianity, amanda knox. >> i've read your book. i like it. >> it's fun, right? >> it is fun. b i agree with some of it which surprises me. disagree with most of >> it can we get to what you agree with? >> not really because that would be too praise worthy. do you write them or yourself? >> i write them and research myself. i like doing the research. i was a lawyer. i love doing research. you find stuff when you're doing your own research. most of my books are more historical on popularizing history. you find things when you hire someone to do the research for you, they wouldn't notice the pattern, they wouldn't see it. so i'm one of the few authors who writes and researches. >> do you like being so polarizing? >> no. i think everybody should agree with me. >> on the basis we don't all agree with you, do you like being polarizing, being so

divisive a character when people turn on their tv and they see ann coulter there half are cheering and half are seething with fury? >> i really think they should all agree with me. if they read this book they'd say oh, my gosh i do agree with her. liberals have been bad mouthing her. >> you've been twisting what i say. i said i agreed with some of it but disagreed with most of it. immediately your sinister brain computed that to say i agreed with everything you'd written. >> much of it, i think. >> you had nine best-selling books on the "new york times" list. >> and i'm hoping after tonight we got number ten here. >> what do you hope to achieve with the book? >> my big goal was getting on this show. >> of course. goal achieved. >> yeah. done. >> you know what, why don't you come back at midnight? >> you know what, we're going to try to. i was up at 7:00 a.m. to be on radio. if i am still awake -- >> just say yes, piers i'll see you at midnight. >> if i'm awake. out you're have