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seconds and they must have been speed talking because they covered everything from the tennis player's recent back surgery to william's subpar penmanship. i now turn you over to wolf blitzer in "the situation room." i will be back here again 4:00 p.m. eastern, 1:00 p.m. pacific. wolf? happening now -- >> there's no good reason why we can't govern responsibly. despite our differences. without lurching from manufactured crisis to manufactured crisis. >> the federal government is now open but president obama says if it's going to stay open, there needs to be a lot more cooperation here in washington. so can congress get its act together before the next deadline? a last minute spending bill got the government running again, but do you know what else was in that bill? we're taking a close look. and after the troubled obama care rollout, should shomeone's
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head roll? republicans are targeting a top cabinet official. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." a big sigh of relief or exhaustion here in the nation's capital as the debt crisis is averted and federal employees go back to work. president obama says washington cannot go back to business as usual. hours after signing the last minute legislation that temporarily ended the shutdown, the president said the standoff left no winners, damaged the economy and left the american people in his words fed up. president obama is calling on congress to work together to make government better instead of quote, purposely making it work worse. but with the next crisis looming just a couple months away, has the well been poisoned on capitol hill? let's begin our coverage with our chief congressional correspondent, dana bash, who is here in "the situation room." what a day it's been on this day after the government comes back. >> that's true. a lot of wound licking, a lot of second guessing and a lot of
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regrets, especially and entirely from mitch mcconnell, the top republican in the senate, who actually told a couple of newspapers, the hill included, that there will not be another government shutdown. he said something along the lines of in kentucky, there's a saying, there's no education in the second kick of a mule. so they're going to make sure this doesn't happen again. you mentioned kicking the can down the road. this is not just a hypothetical. it's a real conversation to have, because it's just a few, what, three months away that this deadline will come up once again. probably is that a lot of republicans at least in the conservative base don't necessarily agree. ted cruz has no regrets. he's not saying there's not going to be another government shutdown. the only thing we do know is that when it comes to the house, there does seem to be -- seems to be very educational for a lot of house republicans who wanted to go down this route, this ted cruz strategy. one interesting tidbit which i sort of thought about today, more than 50% of the house
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caucus has only been here for two and a half years or less. so they're all really new. they don't know how to legislate which is really an art. they didn't trust john boehner, their speaker, when he said this is not the way to go, and he said fine, let's do it. now many republicans in the house tell me that they are going to trust him more now. >> presumably they won't trust his leadership colleagues, whether eric cantor who voted in favor of that deal, or kevin mccarthy, or the others, the top leaders who all surround john boehner. in the lessons learned department, i want you to listen to a little clip we put together from capitol hill. >> we're going back to regular order. this is the budget process. the house passes a budget, the senate passed a budget, couple together to try to reconcile the differences. that's the way we're supposed to do things. >> our job over the next eight weeks is to find out what we can agree on. we have agreed we will look at
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everything set in front of us. >> senator patty murray, congressman paul ryan will co-chair the house/senate budget committee conference, if you will, to hopefully come up with some sort of package deal and agreement by mid-december. >> just that image alone should be really standard, having the budget chairman from both parties or both chambers getting together but it's not. there hasn't been a real budget conference in four years which is kind of stunning given the fact that that is congress' basic job to fund the government. this is something that was part of the deal to reopen the government, to make sure that these real negotiations go on, and they are actually going to meet, the full conference or all the negotiators, senate and house, republican and democrat, are going to meet, 29 members, by the way, for the first time probably in a week. that's progress. it seems kind of stunning that it should be progress but it is in this climate. >> at least they're talking. we will see if they get a budget deal. lot of people are skeptical. paul ryan did not vote in favor
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of the last minute agreement that was passed by the house of representatives. he was a member of the simpson-bowles commission but he rejected its final conclusions even then. let's see if he and patty murray and their colleagues can put together a deal. it would be nice if they did. lot of people as i said are skeptical. thanks, dana bash. let's go to the white house right now, where president obama is taking a tough and somber tone calling for a new way of doing things here in washington. >> all of us need to stop focusing on the lobbyists and the bloggers and the talking heads on radio and the professional activists who profit from conflict, and focus on what the majority of americans sent us here to do. >> let's bring in our senior white house correspondent, brianna keilar. the president says americans are fed up. he's clearly angry and frustrated. here's the question. do we expect real change? do we expect anything to change in the next few weeks or months? >> reporter: well, there are a lot of doubts that they will but despite those doubts, president obama outlined a three part
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agenda, immigration reform which has stalled, a farm bill as well as a budget agreement, deciding how to fund the government as democrats and republicans try to rein in some spending. he says he wants bipartisan solutions but what does his tone today say about his chances of getting that? i asked white house press secretary jay carney. >> he really is serious about moving forward in a bipartisan way on some of these initiatives, why did he chide them for following bloggers and radio talk show hosts? >> the shutdown that we went through had real consequences, real costs, as did the threat of default that was precipitated by the strategy pursued by some on capitol hill. you can't ignore that. >> today, president obama made clear that his hardball strategy
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is here today, unlike in 2011, he did not negotiate with house republicans. he instead sidelined them and he did fare better in the polls because of it. >> brianna, the critics are saying, some are suggesting that the president, unless he's very, very deliberate and careful right now, he's got three years plus left in office, he could wind up a lame duck, if you will, unless certain things fall into place for him. what are you hearing right now on that issue, the criticism of the president from obviously his opponents? >> reporter: well, wolf, his aides concede that this whole mess really got in the way of him pushing his agenda, but they also think that what you're going to see and this is following the midterm elections next year, that you will start to see republicans moderate a little ahead of the 2016 presidential election and there will be some room there for him to keep pushing some of these agenda items.
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i think what the president made clear is that even though he's got very much an uphill battle, when you have a lot of republicans certainly trying to protect their right flanks, worried about being primaried, he's basically going to drag them kicking and screaming as he tries to promote his agenda here in the near term. >> we'll see what he can do. there's an opportunity now, to be sure. let's see if everyone takes a step back and takes advantage of that opportunity. brianna, thank you. so while the president is calling for a change in behavior and tone here in washington, listen to this from cnn's fareed zakaria writing in today's "the washington post." he takes direct aim at what he calls the extreme rhetoric of the right. i'm quoting. over the past six decades, conservetism's language of decay, despair and decline have created a powerful group of americans who believe fervently in this dark narrative and are determined to stop the country from plunging into imminent oblivion. at some point, will they come to recognize that you cannot love america in theory and hate it in fact.
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fareed is joining us now from new york. he's the host of "fareed zakaria gps" here on cnn. you also want conservatives to lighten up. explain what's going on here. >> i think there are two things going on as you were discussing earlier. one is the kind of institutional collapse of authority in the republican party so that as you know, on immigration, the leadership of the party wanted to make a deal. most senators, most of the leaders in the house, but they can't because there's no structure. this is not newt gingrich's republican party anymore. the second piece is that there is this extreme wing within the party, the tea party, that really believes that america is going to hell in a hand basket and tomorrow. as ted cruz said at that value summit, we've got two years to stop this country from plunging into oblivion. if you use rhetoric like that, if you work people up like that, it's very tough to see how you could compromise. you're telling them that what they are doing now by refusing
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to raise the debt ceiling is noble and heroic and is saving the republic from imminent oblivion, how do you dial that back? you know, that second piece is really worrying because most of the tea party come out of this feeling, you know, we just -- this just means we have to fight harder the next time around. >> i remember after the government shutdown in early 1996, when bill clinton was president, the house speaker was newt gingrich and they had a bitter fight, the shutdown lasted for more than 20 days. i was cnn's white house correspondent then. you know what happened after that, cooler heads prevailed. obviously bill clinton got re-elected and then they worked together, newt gingrich, bill clinton, welfare reform was passed, all of a sudden four years of budget surpluses, all of a sudden came into being. there was great cooperation on many levels. do you anticipate that is possible, even possible, between this president and the republican leadership in congress? >> i think it's going to be very
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difficult, because two things have happened. one is this fact that the leader doesn't have -- gingrich was a very powerful speaker. he could deliver the whole party. you saw what happened in this vote that took place. as you pointed out, paul ryan didn't vote for this deal that boehner brought. but the second piece is the tea party is new. the polls that just came out yesterday show something stunning, about 55% of republicans say they don't consider the tea party to be part of the republican party. that's probably half republican moderates and half tea party members who also agree that they are not really part of the republican party. so you have this strange internal dynamic within the republican party that probably has to sort itself out before it can really become what we are looking for is a party that thinks of itself as a governing party, that judges itself by the results it delivers, not the level of obstructionism it can produce. >> fareed zakaria, thanks very much. fareed has a special guest
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sunday, the former secretary of state, james baker. we'll be anxious to see that interview. that's 10:00 a.m. eastern, sunday morning. replay 1:00 p.m. eastern only on cnn. president obama plans to nominate a former pentagon lawyer to run the department of homeland security. sources tell cnn the president's pick is jay johnson, who was general counsel over at the pentagon. if confirmed by the senate, he would replace janet napolitano as the next homeland security secretary. she resigned to run the university of california system. the sources say obama will nominate johnson tomorrow. just ahead, how can republicans recover from that 16-day government standoff? what will it take. and those obama care glitches or serious problems, whatever you want to call them, ryan lizza tried to create an account today on healthcare.gov. wait until you see what happened. x: oil gushing out of pipe.
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ryan, you wrote an excellent piece on ways to fix washington and you suggested counter intuitively that maybe we should go back and increase those earmarks, the pork barrel spending as some people call it, because that might make the government more efficient and effective. >> i think they have a worse reputation than they actually -- >> they have a horrible reputation. speak to john mccain. he'll tell you. >> there's an argument that a little bit of pork in the system, not too much, and it is true they got out of hand right before they were banned by republicans, a little bit of pork in the system helps lubricate the gears of congress. >> give us an example how that could have made a difference this time around. >> we all know that there's this bridge on the river between kentucky and illinois that got $2 billion in increased funding. $2 billion is a lot but everyone is saying this was for mitch mcconnell. i don't think mitch mcconnell agreed to this compromise
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because of that bridge but if that helped seal the deal, does anyone think that's a big deal? that that's worse than going into default? >> okay. i'm going to agree with you on this to a degree. i think that the speaker would have had more power if he could call people in his office behind closed doors and i'm not really calling for the smoke-filled rooms again, but say, you know, do some horse trading. when i started -- i'm not saying all earmarks are great but what's pork to some is kosher to another. you're elected to do things for your district. but if the speaker or chairman of the committee had the tools to say okay, i need your vote on this but i will help you out on this bridge you need in your district, then maybe you can, you know, trade -- >> that was the way it was done forever in washington. one of the reasons tip o'neill had so much power. >> by the way, it was overdone like most things in congress. it was overdone so it became a bad thing.
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>> we will have a full report, tom foreman, later this hour on some of the stuff that's included in this 37-page legislation. nothing to do with the government shutdown or the debt ceiling. >> some of the greatest legislation in history would not have been passed if people knew in realtime what was in it. i hate to say it. medicare, they made up all the numbers. >> gloria, the tea party, back in 2010, pew research center did a poll. it had the unfavorable number for the tea party of 25%. now it's 49%. >> sure. >> that's nearly double. that's not good for the tea party. >> no. it's not good for the tea party. what's interesting to me is within the republican party, that 51% according to that same poll, 51% of republicans don't really identify with tea party. so what you see is a split in the republican party. what i think we're going to see down the road, and i have been wondering how long it would take the business community to realize this, is that the business community which people
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say overwhelmingly republican, suddenly is realizing wait a minute, we don't have the same goals as the tea party. the business community did not like this shutdown. the business community, for example, wants immigration reform, tea party not so much. so maybe you will see the business community now fund raising for tea party opponents, contributing to tea party opponents, and see how that rift in the republican party develops. >> the big business community never wants any discussion of america's credit rating out there to be an issue. >> absolutely. they were for having a clean c.r. right in the beginning and as gloria points out, they are for immigration reform. this is the idealogical split that's now in the republican party. you have a populist grassroots that's very anti-corporate, anti-corporate welfare, and you have a business community that wants the traditional agenda of low taxes and immigration reform and certainly not playing with fire in threatening default.
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>> i interviewed tom cole, the representative from oklahoma, good friend of the speaker, john boehner. he voted in favor of the legislation last night just like the speaker did. listen to what he said when i asked him if the speaker came out of this stronger or weaker or whatever. watch this. >> i think john boehner actually is a big winner in this in terms of the conference. frankly, i see him as much more popular today within his own ranks and much more able to influence than perhaps was the case two or three weeks ago. >> what -- >> i would agree with that. >> you think boehner is more popular? >> inside the republican caucus. >> two-thirds of the republican caucus voted against him in effect on this bill last night. >> he gave the conservatives enough rope and i would argue they hung themselves, but he gave them the rope that he didn't give them in the fiscal cliff a year ago. all the leadership was with him and by the way, there's nobody to replace him. the leadership voted the way he
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did so they can't have a coup and who among the tea party conservatives is going to win the speakership? nobody. >> we're going to have a test of this question in just a few weeks. >> when? >> well, if this budget committee that gets together and if boehner starts working with the white house on a deal and they revive some of the talks that they previously had, boehner will have to make a decision at some point, deal or no deal and he'll have to bring that before the same conference and see if his leverage has increased with the conservatives. >> i think moderates will start, there may be 30 of them, they will start asserting themselves. >> moderate republicans. >> at least that's what they're saying. they're saying it's time for us. >> i follow you like a lot of people do on twitter. you started tweeting today because you wanted to get into the obama care website. tell our viewers what happened. we will show our viewers some of your tweets. >> i was testing the site. i hadn't tested it yet because we were following these other stories. and i logged on and actually was surprised to find out i logged on and could create accounts almost flawlessly.
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i was doing this on my ipad. i went through the first part, no problem. then went through the verification of my identity. you enter your social security number, enter an address, and it comes up with a couple questions, very fast and worked flawlessly and verified based on my answers and my social security number, who i was. but then when i entered some information about income and family status and who did i want to buy health care for, very basic information, then when i got to the final process when i wanted to submit the application, i got that. >> what does that say? >> it sort of hung up with that circle -- >> says got all the way to the end on healthcare.gov, then got hung up trying to submit app and you showed the picture. >> yeah. yeah. >> does it ask you questions? >> before that it asked me a series of questions. it took me through them. the questions are basically there to then give me a menu of options and tell me -- >> it died at the end, is that what happened?
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>> it wouldn't submit the application. >> don't you feel if you put your -- a lot of private information in there, social security number, aren't you worried about doing that? >> i was. that's the first thing i thought of is wow, there's a lot of private information that is going into this. look, i was just testing the system. i have health care. i'm not trying to buy health care. but imagine if you had been waiting for this, and you had heard all about obama care and this is your opportunity to get some subsidies, to get low cost health care and this is what you get. >> that's why it's a good thing they put in the anti-fraud provisions in this compromise that came out of the congress. >> that one little tweak of obama care. >> but it sort of makes you feel better. >> in the end the republicans helped strengthen obama care in a way. they added a fraud prevention solution to obama care. >> the one thing they don't ask which is a comfort to a lot of people is what's your pre-existing condition. none of that. none of that. which is a huge difference. >> they got to fix it and fix it
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quickly. let's hope they do. guys, thanks very much. coming up, with all the problems with the obama care rollout, republicans are now calling for heads to roll. should the health and human services secretary kathleen sebelius be the first? there are a lot of republicans who say fire her. you're in "the situation room." helicopters buzzing, and truck engine humming. sfx: birds chirping sfx: birds chirping [ male announcer ] when we built the cadillac ats from the ground up to be the world's best sport sedan... ♪
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it was a story that was certainly overshadowed by the government shutdown and the debt ceiling battle, but with those crises over, at least for now, attention once again turning to the serious problems plaguing the obama care debut. there are now growing calls for someone to pay the price for all the glitches or serious problems. brian todd is here taking a closer look at this part of the story. brian, what's going on? >> right now, that someone you mentioned is health and human services secretary kathleen sebelius. republicans are equating her with the rollout mess and they are turning up the heat. she's become the face of the obama care rollout and all its technical problems, and there's intensifying pressure on health and human services secretary kathleen sebelius to step down. she's the chief target of
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republicans, including senator pat roberts, who is a long-time friend of sebelius' family. >> secretary sebelius has had three and a half years to launch obama care and she has failed. >> roberts is joined by republican congressman john fleming of louisiana, a long-time family practice doctor, fleming says he will soon send a letter to president obama asking him to accept sebelius' resignation. fleming says he's gotten other house members to sign it. i presented the white house's defense of the health care sign-up website when i spoke to him. >> it's getting better. the problems are being streamlined more and more each day. that's what they're saying. not good enough for you? >> brian, that law was passed almost four years ago. they've had plenty of time to either roll this thing out properly, beta test it, make sure it works, or delay the implementation. they did neither. >> reporter: secretary sebelius' aides say she was traveling and not available to go on camera. they didn't respond specifically to the calls for her to resign but did refer us to comments
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from the white house earlier this week. >> the secretary does have the full confidence of the president. >> reporter: but president obama's former press secretary said this. quote, i hope they fire some people that were in charge, and there are two house committees investigating the website launch. >> they will make sure that obama care is the story of the day, most days of the week, for months and months to come. >> reporter: sebelius said this on a tour promoting obama care this week. >> i'll be the first to tell you that the website launch was rockier than we would have liked. >> reporter: potential customers are still shopping. a company that analyzes web traffic says after the first week online, out of all those who attempted to sign up through the federal exchange, just 1% ended up enrolling in obama care. administration officials say that's not accurate but they are still not giving any specific numbers right now on actual enrollments. we have to emphasize that company's data is unofficial and it's just a snapshot. it does not include state-run exchanges. they just mentioned the federal exchange in that study.
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>> all these problems with the website certainly undermining a key goal of this entire health care law. >> it really is. analysts are saying with all the problems with the website and the fact that republicans are now turning up the heat politically on all of this, they are going to have trouble, the administration is going to have trouble getting young, healthy americans to enroll in this program. they desperately need the young, healthy people to enroll in order to subsidize the older, sicker people who they are also going to be covering. they need it to get off to a good start with the younger healthier people enrolling and this may be a problem in doing that. getting off to that good start. they are clearly not off to a good start. >> they got to fix it quickly. brian, thanks very much. let's get some more on some of the problems with the obama care website. we will bring in our senior medical correspondent, elizabeth cohen. she has been working this part of the story since it was unveiled on october 1st. elizabeth, what are you learning about potential problems with people's passwords on healthcare.gov? >> well, you know, it's interesting. i tried to get a log-in and
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password and finally managed to get one on october 9th but it's never worked. until this day it doesn't work. so i called the call center. i spoke to five different reps and they all said the same thing. they said if you got a log-in and password relatively early on in the first week or so of the site's existence, then some of those passwords have been deleted and so your log-in isn't going to work. i was surprised to hear this and so they talked to me about different things that i could do, i could maybe create a new account. wolf, here's an interesting twist. i called and spoke to a senior obama administration official and she said that the call center, who are their contractors, by the way, that the call center is getting it wrong. she said that they're saying the wrong thing, that they're reading a script that was given to them by mistake. she said passwords have not been deleted. but she did say, you know what, some people who got passwords and user names relatively early on, that they may be having trouble logging in and if that's the case, they should call the
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1-800 number and get help. she said look, if you want to create a whole new account, you can also try that, too. >> seems all these glitches, all these problems are obviously getting in the way. we are finally hearing some data on how the website is doing. i take it not necessarily all that great. >> right. unfortunately, the federal government, the obama administration hasn't released any data even though they said they would release some metrics this week. we haven't seen them yet. but it's interesting, the state of wisconsin told us something. they said that from october 1st to october 8th, that fewer than 50 people enrolled on the healthcare.gov site from wisconsin. wisconsin uses healthcare.gov. so fewer than 50 people in wisconsin enrolled. now, part of that is that you're not going to buy something like this quickly. you're not -- you are going to move slowly and methodically and thoughtfully but part of it also they said is that the site is so glitchy. >> sensitive to cybersecurity nowadays. you point out the confusion over
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passwords. any time you have confusion over passwords, that certainly elevates concerns of cybersecurity. is private information safe when you put it in to sort of just scout around, look for a possible health care program, is it safe from hackers? >> certainly republican lawmakers have said geez, we're asking a lot of people to give a lot of private information, use social security numbers, tax information, you know, is this going to become a magnet for hackers. and the obama administration has said look, we have used, you know, all of the best techniques for ensuring security. in fact, there was a quote from someone for the centers for medicare and medicaid services and those are the folks who are running this, and they said we are using the best technology in order to make sure that things are secure. >> let's hope that's the case indeed. elizabeth, thanks for the excellent reporting on this. up next, shutdown winners and losers. two influential writers came to vastly different conclusions about how republicans fared. they are here.
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two very different takes today on washington. 16 days of gridlock, they come in two dueling columns. both excellent.
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the atlantic wrote that republicans shut down the government for nothing. in the daily beast, peter wrote why the shutdown is a republican victory. they are both joining me now. explain. you said republicans got nothing out of this and they are the big political losers, why? >> let's look at what republicans had, if they had taken the original deal. the continuing resolution that originally passed the senate, it would have funded government through november 15th, ruined thanksgiving for myself and all the other capitol hill reporters, and it would not have lifted the debt ceiling. so the deal that they ended up agreeing to not only is there no delay of obama care, defunding of obama care, very cosmetic modification to obama care, but this goes farther than that in terms of funding the government. it goes through january 15th and it lifts the debt ceiling. so both of those potential pressure points that republicans viewed as negotiating chips are now off the table. >> peter, you have a very different conclusion. what's yours? >> i think you have to distinguish between the shutdown itself and the deal. i agree, the shutdown was
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politically damaging for the republicans. but as molly herself just said, the actual deal, this clean continuing resolution which extends the sequester cuts and uses them as a baseline for further negotiation, that was acknowledged by both democrats and republicans as recently as a month ago as a victory for the republicans because they wanted the sequester cuts extended and democrats didn't. it's only because we got distracted by this fight over repealing obama care that we forgot that the very idea of extending the sequester cuts was always seen as a republican victory. >> go ahead. >> well, that is certainly the case but that is something democrats agreed to in the first place. if republicans had believed initially that that was a big win for them, they would have taken that deal. the fact is they were driven by these internal disputes and they ended up tanking in the polls. it looks like it has incredibly damaged their candidate for governor in virginia, in the election that's next month that's going to be seen as a national bellwether. republicans were set back in all sorts of ways. >> peter? >> well, i disagree.
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i don't think it was true the democrats were happy about the sequester cuts at all. i think harry reid at the very last minute tried to bring this up, his enormous dissatisfaction about the fact this was taken off the table as even a discussion item. the center for american progress had written a report in september basically saying we can't allow a clean continuing resolution with sequester cuts. on the one hand, the effort to defund obama care did hurt the republicans in the polls. there's no question about it. on the other hand, it essentially made the fallback position of a clean continuing resolution with extended sequester cuts look like a democratic victory when it actually is considered a republican victory early on. >> go ahead. >> well, that's certainly true, and there has been this argument that one of the things that the far right has been doing is sort of pulling the political spectrum in their direction so the center keeps being reset further and further right. and i wouldn't disagree with that, necessarily. i would say, however, that one of the things that harry reid refused to agree to in the final
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deal was to make the sequester cuts essentially permanent, to make that the baseline for the budget negotiations that they're going into. and so democrats now have a chance to relitigate this. they have the budget conference that they have been seeking all year, and this isn't over. >> so what happens in january when the next deadline comes up to reopen -- make sure there's no more government shutdown? we go through this again? >> well, potentially we go through this again. there isn't too much evidence that any of the conditions underlying this dysfunction have changed. >> peter, are we going to go through this again? >> i don't think -- i don't think the republicans are going to want to shut down the government. on the other hand, i don't think they have faced the reality that any real big budget deal is going to require an increase in taxes. and because -- i think given how humiliated they are now, i think they are probably not in a position to eat that even more bitter pill. my guess would be another kicking the can down the road. >> all right. guys, excellent work. thanks to both of you for coming in. the national zoo's hugely
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popular panda cam is back online after going dark with the government shutdown. the star of the show, an unnamed cub born in august, has really grown. the zoo says she's gained two pounds, has begun to open her eyes. the zoo itself will reopen tomorrow. just ahead, details of some surprises that were slipped into the bill that reopened the federal government and raised the debt ceiling. plus, a very well-known public figure reveals he tried to buy twitter. when we made our commitment to the gulf, bp had two big goals: help the gulf recover and learn from what happened so we could be a better, safer energy company. i can tell you - safety is at the heart of everything we do. we've added cutting-edge technology, like a new deepwater well cap and a state-of-the-art monitoring center, where experts watch over all drilling activity twenty-four-seven. and we're sharing what we've learned, so we can all produce energy more safely. our commitment has never been stronger. have hail damage to both their cars. ted
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life with crohn's disease ois a daily game of "what if's". what if my abdominal pain and cramps end our night before it even starts? what if i eat the wrong thing? what if? what if i suddenly have to go? what if? but what if the most important question is the one you're not asking? what if the underlying cause of your symptoms is damaging inflammation? for help getting the answers you need, talk to your doctor and visit crohnsandcolitisadvocates.com to connect with a patient advocate from abbvie for one-to-one support and education. how costly was the shutdown? we want to know what you think. tweet us. twins. i didn't see them coming. i have obligations. cute obligations, but obligations. i need to rethink the core of my portfolio.
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so you must know by now the shutdown was brought to as ends after congress passed an 11th hour spending bill aimed at keeping the government running at least temporarily for a few months. but do you know what else was in
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the bill? tom foreman has been taking a closer look. i finally read all 37 pages. i was stunned. >> quite surprising. after all the wrangling, the shutdown and threat of default, this is the result. a slim document that supposedly met the democratic demand for a clean, continuing resolution, legislation to keep everything running, but there are several surprises hidden in the pages, which add up to billions, and what some would consider pork. first up, a dam in kentucky, a dam and lock project on the ohio river. that's more than triple what they were slated for, and supporters say it's wo are the it, otherwise the project would have to be canceled. money already spent would be wasted, but nonetheless more money being spent. certainly less controversial, is a section aimed at colorado.
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authorizing 450 million in spending to help rebuild roads, bridges and other things torn apart by the flood recently. a few more items. agencies that fight wildfires can count on an additional $636 million for next year. the agency that oversees the safety of mines will keep an additional $1 million in fees. a watchdog dplup looking for privacy issues will get just over $3 million more, and the widow of the late senator frank lawton burg will get a death benefit equal to a year of his salary. this is customary, but spending tax money for this at this time is raising some eyebrows, especially among watch dog groups, because hi personal wealth was almost $60 million, wolf. >> yeah, tom, a lot of people want congress members to give up their salaries during the shutdown. some actually did. is there anything in the law, the legislation that was signed into law about their compensation? >> yes, there is, wolf.
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one little clause that says congress members won't get a cost of living increase next year. they'll collect just their regular salary for doing such a bang-up job, though that may not be much of a hardship since they're paid $174,000 a year or about four times as much as an average american. >> squeezed a lot of stuff into that bill. thanks very much, tom. iran state news agency says officials are optimistic about international negotiations over the country's controversial nuclear program. the deputy foreign minister is quoted as saying an agreement could be reached within six months. talks were described as substantive and forward-looking. a line of cruiser in pursuit of a school bus, a man with a knife hijacked it with 121 elementary school kids on board.
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the chase ended peacefully about ten miles. police took the suspect into custody, and the children were not hurt. the former vice president al gore says he once tried to buy the popular social network twitter, but was unable to strike a deal. speaking on bloomberg tv, he called the company a fantastic success that's become a global utility. twitter recently filed an initial public stock offering. coming up president obama lectures republicans, and an unusual series of stories bumped from the headlines by the fiscal crisis. twins. i didn't see them coming. i have obligations. cute obligations, but obligations. i need to rethink the core of my portfolio. what i really need is sleep. introducing the ishares core, building blocks for the heart of your portfolio. find out why 9 out of 10 large professional investors choose ishares for their etfs. ishares by blackrock. call 1-800-ishares for a prospectus which includes investment objectives, risks, charges and expenses. read and consider it carefully before investing.
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[ male announcer ] that's great, big world friendly. what else was going on while the nation was preoccupied? here's cnn's jeanne moos. >> reporter: not only did congress make us mad -- >> you guys are worthless. >> fed up with you! >> reporter: but the coverage of congress ran rough shod over
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stories like this, the military-funded wildcat debuted while we were watching these guys fight like wild complain cats. this agile ground robot can go 16 miles. when it stumbles, unlike congress, it gets up. while politicians were gridlocked, this bear locked itself in a car in california. the domelight flashed, the horn honked, the headlights went on and off. officials had to bra eca window to get the bear out. while congress was plotting this kangaroo was bounding through the airport in melbourne, australia, occasionally wiping out on the slippery floors. he was finally trapped in a pharmacy, sedated and cared for. you may think of congress as a bunch of hoax terres. while you were watching them, you may have missed this actual hoax. to promote a horror movie, a cafe in new york city was rigged
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up, and actors staged rage over spilled coffee. >> just get away from me! i want instead of in a coffeehouse, maybe telekinesis would have worked better in the house of representatives even congressmen like or i don'ts, but because of their shenanigans, you might have missed the college study on rats, showing or i don'ts activate more pleasure neuroens than cocaine. whatever you do, don't snort the or i don'ts. by the way, the rats also eade the cream in the middle first. here's something that democrats and republicans could do together to get over all that nastyness. >> hi, i'm snuggle. >> reporter: snuggling with a stranger for 60 bucks an answer. not sexy knuckling, but therapeutic snuggling, snuggle house is preparing to open to a place similar in new york. >> whenever you like, we can change positions.
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>> at least one thing we missed is back, the national zoo's panda-cam was switched on so we can watch mom and cub snuggle. not all that different from congress. >> if your heart doesn't break -- >> jeanne moos, cnn. >> i'm going to change the world one snuggle at a time. >> those in fair say aye. >> reporter: new york. a special report after the shutdown, the battles ahead. president obama challenges republicans to avoid another crisis just a few months from now. he says the last 16 days have taken a serious toll on the nation. >> there are no winners here. the last few weeks have inflicted completely unnecessary damage on our economy. how and senate negotiators begin make or break budget talks knowing the current fix is only temporary. i'll talk to a republican lawmakers who is taking part in the different negotiations. our shutdown scorecard. did republicans with
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presidential hopes strengthen or weaken their hands? i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." less than 24 hours after the end of a crippling federal crisis, a stunning new warns from ted cruz. the texas senator says he won't rule out another government shutdown in just a matter of months when the temporary fix approved late last night runs out. our correspondents are standing by with new information on the ballotses ahead. let's go first to dana bash. so what are we hearing from senator cruz? what does all this mean? >> well, we're not really issue. an aide to senator cruz tells me he is not ruling out pushing a strategy that once again could result in the government shutdown. most of his republican colleagues say good luck with that, no way. in fact mitch mcconnell told "the hill" newspaper he will not let the government shut down again and budget negotiators started working this morning to make sure that doesn't happen.
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these bipartisan images an conciliatory words may not be much, but they're a start. >> we had a good conversation over breakfast this morning. >> we want to look for ways to find common ground to get a budget agreement. >> reporter: after a 16-day shutdown, it's understandable if you're skeptical. these are the first official budget negotiations in four years, only forced to start as part of the deal to reopen the government. still several house republicans tell cnn there is reason for optimism. ted cruz may not have regrets over a losing strategy to defund obama care, but others do. >> this was the right cause to be fighting for, but probably not the smart fight to pick, and i think we learned some lessons. >> house speaker john boehner never thought it was a smart fight, but he stuck with it anyway. gop sources are near unanimous, they may boehner earned new trust among conservatives and new power to negotiate in the future. >> i think they are going to be more willing to listen. because he was proven correct
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and quite frankly without rubbing anybody's face in it, a lot of other voices were proven tore wrong i want tom cole is not one of those tea party backed voices, he calls himself a pragmatist on -- they do make up the majority of house republicans, and shock admits they have to speak more. >> i think you'll see more of us become more vocal and not be taking for granted when it comes to always counting on our votes. >> house republican leaders were notably silent today, intentionally laying low. no statements responding to the president's remarks this morning that we would normally see, but privately house gop sources i spoke to said they were upset that the president didn't strike a more unifying tone to try to get everybody over the really bad crisis and divisions we have seen. >> we'll see if the president invites them over for dinner that they tried the charm offensive, we'll see.
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president obama says there's no reason for the nation to lurch from crisis to crisis. he's warning republicans and the american people are fed up right now. let's go to our senior correspondent brianna keilar. what are you seeing, brianna? >> reporter: wolf, the president's message is his hardball strategy is here to say, unlike in 2011, he did not negotiate with house republicans. he sidelined them instead and fared better because of it. >> after besting -- impossible default, president obama lectured them. >> all of us knee to stop focusing on the lobbyists, the bloggers and talking heads on radio, and the professional activists who profit from conflict and focus on what the majority of americans sent us here to do. >> he outlined a three-part agenda he plans to pursue, a farm bill, immigration, and a budget agreement that will
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determine how the government is funded as negotiators have i to rein in spending. the president says he wants bipartisan solutions. >> he really is serious will moving forward in a bipartisan what i on some of these initiatives, why did he chide them for following bloggers and radio talk show hosts? ivities the shutdown we went through had real consequences, real costs, as did the threat of default that was precipitated by the strategy pursued by some on capitol hill. you can't ignore that. >> reporter: when the 2k3w06789 runs out of funding in mid-january, we could see a repeat. i asked the president about that. mr. president, is this going to happen all over against in a few months? >> no. >> reporter: a very firm no there, and while white house officials acknowledge that maybe some republicans will be tempted to pursue this strategy again,
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wolf, as they are concerned about being primary to the right in these upcoming midterm elections next year, they think that what may win out is national republicans being concerned about their brand being damaged with independents. >> let's hope the president is right there won't be another shutdown or any serious threats to america's creditworthyness. good work, brianna. glad you got the president to answer that question, even as he was quickly walking out of the briefing room. brianna keilar over at the white house. >> around want and across the nation, we saw hundreds of thousands of federal employees go back to work today, in national parks, monuments, museums all reopened. the vice president joe biden went to the e p. a to personally welcome workers back, even brought some muffins. the barriers that kept visitors out of the world war ii memorial we are taken down. national park workers were busy picking up trash that had piled
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up. tourists lined up to get into the air and space museums, and historic ohio clock that stands near the senate chamber is ticking again after the man in charge of winding it returned to work from husband furlough. all good news. still ahead, wall street's reaction to the deal struck in washington, the bottom line of the crisis, what it really cost america's economy. and will the tea party punish republicans who voted to end the shutdown? we're keeping score of the winners and loser. you know what? tweet us your thoughts. use the #sitroom. ♪ norfolk southern what's your function? ♪
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wall street welcomed the end of the government shutdown to a point. the s&p 500 was the most bullish, hiding a record high today. the nasdaq also gained ground, but the dow dipped slightly after several fortune 500 companies reported weak earnings. more on the economic toll from the shutdown, the debt crisis,
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congestion, for the smog. but there are a lot of people that do ride the bus. and now that the buses are running on natural gas, they don't throw out as much pollution into the air. so i feel good. i feel like i'm doing my part to help out the environment. glaring headlines. house democratic leaders nancy pelosi is calling it a $24
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billion temper tantrum by republicans. here's how president obama described the damage, from risking default on the federal debt. we know that just the threat of default, america not paying all the bills we owe on time increased or borrowing costs, which adds to our deficit. and, of course, we know that the american people's frustration with what goes on in this town has never been higher. >> so are democrats overstating the impact on the economy? what's going on? let's bring in cnn's richard quest, who has been watching all. this. even though the u.s. avoided default or anything along those lines, how much damage do you believe this crisis really did cause? >> s&p puts the number at $24 billion. every analyst seems to suggest about a quarter to half a percent off the gd the p.
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that's quite sizable when you think -- that half a point has gone. it's not coming back. if you factor in the uncertainty of january or february, not only has growth gone, but the confidence will remain weak. if you want anecdotal evidence, a colleague here at cnn, about to get a mortgage, their mortgage rate went down just a fraction today because of the deal, saving them $40 a month, more than $6,500 over the course of the mortgage. that's what happens when you have certainly. >> if there's $24 billion lost to the economy over 16 days of a government shutdown, and if the fourth quarter growth goes down let's say half a person, that's a lot of jobs potentially lost in the united states.
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>> i think moss likely it's jobs not created. this won't be the demand. employers in america are only taking on new workers at the last possible moment. look at the last jobs report, the last fed minutes, and they over and over again in the fed minutes, that the recovery is not being job-led. workers are not seeking employment, and that's what's dangerous about this. on the other side, it almost certainly guarantees the fed will keep their foot firmly on the gas. probably the thought of withdrawing tapering or beginning tapers at this point is unthinkable. >> i would say tapering now doesn't begin until september, that seems to be what wall street is telling us. >> richard, thanks very much. let's get to our shutdown
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scorecard. here's other chief navl correspondent john king. >> wolf, one of the biggest lessons of the debate is he live in a a parallel political university. less than a year ago he won a huge victory. as the president was winning, mitt romney vowed to defend the law. -- defeat the law. across the country, lookal ought thousand red in those house districts. mitt romney won more house districts than president obama. these members think the voters want them to stand up to the president, including on the health care law. remember, all this started when 80 house republicans signed a letter to the speak saying we will not fund vote to fund the government unless that legislation also strips all the
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money from the 79's health care play. 80 said in the end, 71 of them stood their ground, only nine yes votes for the compromise. here's another way to look at it. if you're running for president and you're a republican, well, the safe vote was no. 2016 prospects all decide deciding to vote no, even though the republican leadership wanted them to vote in favor of the compromise. for some members of the house, you would have to say this, all politics is local. of the 232 house republicans, it's a remarkably low number, but only 17 go home to districts that they won, meaning a republican house member, but the president won those districts seeking reelection. of those 17, 15 decided to vote yes, voting the way the president would have wanted them to vote, because their districts perhaps less republican-leaning than most of their colleagues.
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as we watch to see thousand this plays out, the tea party called this deal horrible, said it would punish those who voted yes. watch these three races. mitch mcconnell. he brokered the deal. he voted yes. lamar alexander of tennessee, and the prominent republican senator lindsey graham, all voted yes, all on the ballot next year, all facing tea party challengers. this will be key tests. to see if they keep their threat to punish those who voted yes. we'll take you inside the make or break discussions that have begun today. republican congresswoman diane black is taking part in those talks the by the way, if you have a question for her, go ahead, tweet us that question about the next big battle. use the #sitroom.
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in case you missed it, there was an added jolt of drama. a woman walked up to the front of the house chamber and started showsing about jesus and the freemasons, and how the house is divided. we're told she's a longtime stenographer, who apparently just snapped. she was removed to the capitol, taken to the hospital for evaluation. more on the shutdown fallout right after this. (son) ok. feat. (dad) all right. that's ok. (dad) put it in second, put it in second. (dad) slow it down. put the clutch in, break it, break it. (dad) just like i showed you. dad, you didn't show me, you showed him. dad, he's gonna wreck the car! (dad) he's not gonna wreck the car. (dad) no fighting in the road, please. (dad) put your blinker on. (son) you didn't even give me a chance! (dad) ok. (mom vo) we got the new subaru because nothing could break our old one. (dad) ok. (son) what the heck? let go of my seat! (mom vo) i hope the same goes for my husband. (dad) you guys are doing a great job. seriously. (announcer) love a car that lasts. love. it's what makes a subaru, a subaru.
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the house and senate negotiators aren't wasting any time. they're formally beginning talks to try to prevent another crisis in a few months. we're joined by diane black, she's part of those negotiations. she's joining us from tennessee. she's a republican. congresswoman, thanks for coming in. >> you're very welcome. thank you for having me. >> i know up under mid-december,
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the deadline to come up with a big package on the budget. is it doable? >> well, i think that it's great that we're finally back to regular order and we're talking with the senate, this is what we should be doing, what our constitution says, and we are looking forward to having some common ground that we can find to deal with our nation olympics most pressing fiscal problems of our debt and deficit spending. >> good luck. let's hope you succeed. the country is counting on all of you to do the right thing. you voted against the deal on the house floor last night. is that right? i want i did indeed. >> why did you vote against it? the country was suffering. s&p already said $24 billion had been lost, they were downgrading their estimate of economic growth in the fourth quarter. why didn't you go along with the speaker of the house, the majority leader, majority whip, and accept this last-minute compromise? >> wolf, i came to washington to
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make some really tough decisions, and to deal with what i think is the most pressing issue in this country, and that is our debt and deficit spending. this bill unfortunately last night, gave the president a blank check and did nothing to control the out-of-control spending in washington. i have said since i have come to washington that i will not give the president a blank check. i wish the president would have come to sit down and talk with us, and talk with us about how we could solve these issues. i didn't want the government to be closed down. i voted for four bipartisan measures to keep the government open and running president closing down the government, no one wins. >> the president did invite all republican members of congress to come over to the white house, but your republican leadership only decided that the leaders, the key committee chairs and others would go president but he did invite all of you to come over to sit down and talk, which is what you wanted.
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we asked our -- let me read this twitter that came in. this is from one of the -- wanda i think her name is. on your know vote, just what did you all accomplish? party of fiscal responsibility? what a laugh. go ahead. what did you accomplish by shutting down the government to 16 days? >> i'm going to say it again. we did not shut down the government. the gout was shut down, because we could not get the senate to come and negotiate with us. we could not get the president. when our leaders went to the white house to have dinner, this is what the president told them -- i will not negotiate. i will not negotiate. this is not just behind closed doors. he said this out in public -- i will not negotiate. that is not what the leader of our country should be saying to congress. he will negotiate with leaders from syria and russia, and iran, but not with the members of congress? that is not the way our form of government was set up, to have a king who just says i will not negotiate.
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>> but congresswoman -- >> so i would disagree with you. >> you didn't expect he was going to defund obama care, his signature achievement something he worked hard to get through, the house and senate, ratified by the supreme court as constitutional, and then he won reelection by 5 million votes decisively as well. you didn't really think he was going to make some significant changes to that signature piece of legislation that became the law of the land? >> wolf, let's look at what he has done. he hayes delayed the employer man dade, because big business came after him and asked him to do that. he has delayed the verification piece, and just weakened that so much it's just -- something can sum in and say here's how much i make. there's a lot of fraud and abuse that will occur. he delayed the shop, which is for the small businesses. he's delayed, but what about the individuals that are suffering, that they're seeing their
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premiums are going up, they're losing their jobs? and they're getting limited choices? why didn't the president delay that for the everyday working person that's suffering as a result of this bill? ivities just want to be precise, congresswoman. no regrets on what you and your colleagues did? >> i don't have a regret. i have a regret that those that should have been coming to the table and talking to us about this when we started these bills coming to them in the senate, where they just turned our bills down, we started that in september. on september 20th. we sent them the first bill. you tell me, have you asked the president why he wouldn't come and sit down with congress? have you asked harry reid why would you not sit down with the leaders of the house of representatives and find a solution to this, instead of continuing to stall and keep the government closed? that's who needs to be asked the question. >> harry reid did sit down with mitch mcconnell. they worked out this deal that was whoefr yelpingly passed in
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the senate and house of representatives, including from your own republican leadership. >> and it did nothing to address the problems that we have right now. >> so have you lost confidence in the speaker? >> not at all. i mean, the speaker is the leader. he made a decision that he felt was best for most of our conference, and i had to make a decision about what i think is best for my district and the american people that i represent in my district. ultimately we are going to have to make a decision on this, you know? we can keep kicking this can, but eventually it's going to hit us. i say we stop now and say to the president and we say to heart ri reid, come to the table, let's talk and let's hope that's what happening. >> diane black, a republican congresswoman from tennessee, thanks very much for coming in. >> you're welcome, wolf. thank you for having me. that's it for me. thanks for watching. "crossfire" starts right now. tonight on "crossfire", moving on with a new agenda.
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will he find any takers or the same old hard feelings? >> right now there is folks on the other side that thinks my policies are misguided. that's putting it mildly. on the left, van jones. on the right, s.e. kipp, steven horseford, and luke mecir, an indiana, a news start or more of the tame? tonight on "crossfire." welcome to "crossfire." i'm van jones on the left. >> i'm s.e. cupp on the right. and at the president took an opportunity today not to bring two political parties together or to assure the dun he will get us back on course, instead he lectured us about how government should work and of course, criticized washington.

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