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crowley. if you missed any part of today's show, find us on itunes. fareed za kkaria gps is next fo our viewers here in the united states. this is gps, the global public square. welcome to all of you in the united states and around the world. i'm fareed zakaria. we'll start today's show with an exclusive interview with a man who dealt with government shutdowns, threats of default, and partisan politics, james baker, ronald reagan's chief of staff and then secretary of the treasury, on how to fix washington and the political parties. then the view from outside america's borders. i'll ask two of our favorite foreign observers, martin wolf and zani betters to tell us whether the damage to america's credibility is already done. and can it be repaired. and a staory of democracy
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working. i'll talk to chile's president about that nation's successes 40 years after a bloody coup d'etat. but first, here is my take. the crisis has been resolved, but this respite is temporary. we're bound to have more standoffs and brinksmanship in washington in the months and years ahead. to understand why, you must recognize that for the tea party, the stakes could not be higher. republican senator ted cruz put it plainly at the recent values voter summit in washington. >> we're nearing the edge of a cliff, and our window to turn things around, my friends, i don't think it is long. i don't think it's ten years. we have a couple of years to turn this country around or we go off the cliff to oblivion. >> cruz dominated the summit's straw poll taking 42% of the vote, more than three times his neare esest rival.
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his national approval rating might be an abysmal 14% but to the base of the republican party, he's an idol. the current fear derives from obama care and what it will do to america, but that's only the most recent cause for alarm. modern american conservatism was founded on a diet of despair. in 1955 william f. buckley, jr. began the movement with a famous first editorial in "national review" declaring that the magazine stands athwart history yelling stop. hardline conservatives have been yelling stop ever since. john boehner tries to tie into this position of opposition when he says repeatedly, the federal government has spent more than what it has brought in in 55 of the last 60 years. but one might respond, what have been the results over these past 60 years? the united states has grown mightily, destroyed the soviet
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union, spread capitalism across the globe, and lifted its citizens to astonish lingly hig standards of living and income. at the end of his 1961 speech that launched his political career, ronald reagan said -- >> if you don't do this and i don't do this, one of these days you and i are going to spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it once was like in america when men were free. >> but the menace reagan was warning about, medicare, was enacted. it's provided security to the elderly. there have been problems regarding cost, but that is hardly the same thing as killing freedom. after all, the right wing heritage foundation ranks many countries as more free than america every year, for example switzerland and australia, and they all have universal health care. for many conservatives today, the rush to be excoriated is not about economics and health care, but about culture.
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a persistent theme of conservative intellectuals and commentators in print and on fox news is the cultural decay of the country. but compared with almost any period in u.s. history, we live in bourgeois times in a culture that values family, religion, work, and above all private business. young people today aspire to become mark buckzuckerberg. they read the twitter feed of big gates. even after the worst recession since the great depression, there are no obvious radicals, anarchists, black panthers, or other revolutionary movements except for the tea party. now, for some tacticians and consultants, extreme rhetoric is just a way to keep the troops fired up, but rhetoric gives meaning and shape to a political movement. over the past six decades, conservatives' language of decay, despair, and decline have
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created a group of americans who fervently believe in this dark narrative and are determined to stop the country from plunging into what they see as imminent oblivion. they aren't going to give up just yet. the era of krar scrises could e only when this group of conservatives make their peace with in america. their passionate in their dislike of the messy, multiracial capitalist and welfare state democracy that america actually has been for half a century. a fifth of this country's history. at some point will they come to realize of that you cannot love america in theory and hate it in fact? for more on this, go to within.com/fareed, and you can read my "washington post" column this week, and let's get started.
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james baker was ronald reagan's chief of staff, then treasury secretary. then he was secretary of state under president george h.w. bush. he joins me now from the baker institute at rice university in houston, texas. jim, thank you so much for doing this. >> thank you, fareed, and i'm glad to be with you. >> tell me first with your treasury secretary and secretary of state hat on, what damage do you think this whole episode has done to the united states or can we bounce back? >> well, we can bounce back, and i'm convinced we will bounce back. that's not to say that this was not a harmful episode, and it's not to say that as far as i can tell, fareed, there really weren't any real winners here. my party, the republican party, i think was a loser, but i also think that the president and the democratic party was a loser
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because the world saw us in disarray. it really saw a failure of government, and it raised, i think, some serious doubts in the minds of people around the world about our country. >> president's argument is he had to do something to end this practice of what he calls holding the government ransom, of holding the full faith and credit of the united states rans ransom. as somebody who spent a lot of time in the oval office, do you think from a presidential point of view it sort of makes sense to end this process of using the debt ceiling as a negotiating tool? >> well, if i'm wearing my treasury secretary's hat, which i wore for four years, i would love to see us do away with the requirement for increasing the debt ceiling, but as a taxpayer and as someone who thinks that the greatest threat facing the united states today is this huge
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ticking debt bomb out there that has been created by our continuing to spend and borrow without restraint, then i think it's something we pretty much need to keep. i know you're aware and your viewers are probably aware of the fact that when he was a senator from illinois, president obama, senator obama, voted against increasing the debt ceiling, wasn't willing to increase it. was ready to see us go into default. so this is a political exercise that occurs anytime there's a necessity of raising the debt ceiling. if you look at it from the chair of a treasury secretary, you'd like to get rid of that. on the other hand, i think it does provide some restraint on the tendency of our government these days to enter into unrestrained spending and incurring additional debt. >> the president outlined in his remarks after the crisis three
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areas where he thought even though there were big disagreements in the parties and there was polarization, there was a way forward. he said we can come to some agreement on a budget deal, and he cited some of the things he's already been willing to put on the table, and paul ryan actually in an op-ed echoed that suggestion. he talked about immigration, and he talked about a farm bill. how likely do you think it is that we'll get a deal on any of these three things? >> well, i think there's a good chance we might get some sort of a deal on the farm bill. we need a farm bill. i would hope we would get a deal on immigration because i think that's an issue that needs to be resolved and resolved in a bipartisan way. i think my party, for instance, needs to understand that the demographics in the country are moving against us, and there's no reason on god's green earth why we should not get a healthy
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portion of the hispanic vote. hispanics believe in family. they believe in work. they believe in religion. they believe in some of the same principles and values that republicans hold dear. and so we used to get a large percentage of that vote, and we need to do everything we can to get back to that. we also need to get the votes -- seek the votes of other minorities, particularly asians, but other minorities as well because we'll need those votes, we're going to continue to need those votes. they're an ever growing voter bloc and if we're going to win elections. >> on the budget, jim, the question is, is there a deal to be had where the republicans give in somewhat on some tax increases and the president gives in on both entitlement reform and spending cuts? that seems to be where there is a possible deal. >> here is my view of that,
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fareed. the biggest problem we have fiscally facing the country today is this huge debt bomb which has been created as a result of ever more government spending, and much of that spending, of course, is not legislated by the congress. it happens automatically. the entitlement programs keep spending automatically. we have got to get a handle on that somehow. we've got to get a handle on it. that's what we ought to be focusing on, but, yes, i understand the president and the democrats will be saying, well, fine, if we're going to talk about entitlements, then you need to be willing to talk about increasing revenue. the real way to increase revenue is to increase growth. one of the problems -- one of the adverse effects of what we've just been through is that it diminished to some extent various numbers are thrown out there, but some people say 0.6%
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of gdp. well, that restrains revenues coming into the government. that's the way to grow revenues, to grow the economy. now, you talk about increasing tax rates. we've just been through a great big tax increase in january of this year. we raised taxes at the president's request and the republicans went along with it by $640 billion. so the question is, how much -- what's the amount? all of that has to be negotiated, but you can't just say that we'll do an equal amount of entitlement restraint for an equal amount of additional tax increases. we've already raised taxes this year by $640 billion. so these are all things that need to be negotiated. and, yes, hopefully there will be some way to negotiate a
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budget or a major fiscal reform package. paul ryan has got some terrific ideas. paul ryan, frankly, in my view is one of the upcoming stars of the republican party, and he's got the right idea. and he's extraordinarily bright, and i'm delighted to see that he's the one representing my party at the table. >> we'll be back in a moment. more with james baker, including his thoughts on his own senator who is, of course, ted cruz. >> i do not like green eggs and ham, i do not like them, sam i am. but they didn't fit. customer's not happy, i'm not happy. sales go down, i'm not happy. merch comes back, i'm not happy. use ups. they make returns easy. unhappy customer becomes happy customer. then, repeat customer. easy returns, i'm happy. repeat customers, i'm happy. sales go up, i'm happy.
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we are back with james baker, one of the legends of american politics, former choof of staff, former secretary of state. what do you think about the man representing your state, the houston chronicle just waxed nostalgic in an editorial about kay bailey hutchison almost suggesting they wished they had never endorsed ted cruz. do you think ted cruz represents your views in the republican party? >> well, i'm not sure that he
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represents my views in the republican party, but i'm not going to sit here and dump all over my junior senator, particularly given the fact that he worked for me in 2000. he was a very fine lawyer in that recount battle we had in florida, and he was a good solicitor general for the state of texas. was he wrong on this most recent episode? in my view, yes, it hurt us. it didn't gain us anything. we kicked the can just three months down the road. we didn't accomplish anything. it didn't take a rocket scientist in my view to figure out that if you don't have the senate and you don't have the white house, you're not going to be able to defund obama care. it was a maximalist position, had no chance of being accomplished, and, therefore, i think it was a mistake, and i think it was senator john
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mccain, if i'm not mistaken, who said it was a fool's errand. i'm not disinclined to disagree with that. >> what do you think should happen now that the can has been kicked the next time this happens. mitch mcconnell said two kicks of a mule, you're meant to learn, the second kick you're not meant to learn much. meaning we shut down the government in the mid-90s, it didn't work, shut it down now, it didn't work. how should the republican party approach the issue of this next time this same issue comes up. >> here is what i think for the next time. first of all, i would hope we would abandon this idea of adopting a maximalist position on defunding obama care by shutting down the government. the way to defund obama care is for us to get out there and win elections. win control of the senate in 2014 and the white house in 2016
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and keep the house and then we can repeal obama care and we should. it's a horrible law in my opinion. one of the adverse effects of what we've been just been through is we didn't get to see all the problems that are taking place with respect to trying to implement that law. it's a disaster, but that was all overshadowed by what we went through. so what should we do next time? don't take a maximalist position on defunding obama care, but be tough in terms of fiscal reform. hang in there tough to get some spending restraint, not necessarily to shut the government down. although i would say this, i don't think there's anything wrong with hanging tough on the debt limit. a lot of times the party out of
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power does that. it's customary. it does give you leverage. if the administration doesn't control the house of representatives, they ought to expect that they're going to have problems getting the debt limit increased, and if the president is going to adopt the attitude that he won't negotiate an increase in the debt limit even though all presidents have before and he has himself in 2011, i think he'll pay a political price for that. that's different than saying, i'm not going to negotiate on the defunding of my signature health law. >> but as a political matter, you've played this game in washington better than most. the president does seem to have won. i mean, the republicans dropped, what, 15 points in the polls -- >> i agree. >> the president dropped a little, the democrats dropped a little, and obama care actually nudged up a little. net net it seems to have helped the president.
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>> i don't think it's helped the president. the president's numbers have come down, the democrats' number has come down and the view of america has come down and he's the leader of the country. 87% today think -- you take a poll, 87% say we're on the wrong track. only a few teens say we're on the right track. that's not good for the leader of the country. so i would not argue that this is a win for the president. >> james baker, always a pleasure to have you on. i hope we can come back to you very soon. >> thank you, fareed. >> up next, what in the world? why africa's date tate dictator longer seem to be concerned about good governance and are asian countries to blame? illino i'll explain coming up. things i prefer to do on my own. but when it comes to investing, i just think it's better to work with someone. seem to be concerned about good
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now for our "what in the world" segment. the world has welcomed another batch of nobel laureates, but
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there is another prize perhaps just as important for which there was no winner. i'm talking about the ibrahim prize established by the sudanes millionaire missouri e broo hem. you need to be a democratically elected african head of state who has left office in the last three years and demonstrated excellent leadership. if you meet the criteria, you get a $5 million award plus an annual pension of $200,000 that kicks in after a decade. the point, of course, is to provide a financial incentive for african leaders to shun corruption, and yet for the fourth time in its seven-year history, the awards committee was you be able to find -- unable to find a winner from any of africa's 50-plus countries. bravo for holding high standards
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even if it means no glarand ceremonies? what happened? for starters, presidents and prime ministers need to step down. africa's leaders are locked in a marathon to see who can reign longest. zimbabwe and cameroon have had the same men in charge for 33 and 30 years respectively. these and a number of other african states are nominal democracies, but they are essentially run by dictators. the elections, if they're held at all, tend to be a sham, pockmarked by intimidation, fraud, and violence. a number of indicators highlight the region's crisis of governance. on freedom house's global map of freedom, africa is the region with the highest number of countries listed not free. on transparency international's corruption index, most african states are shaded red denoting
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graft. alongside all of these dismal rankings, lie a set of numbers singing a very different tune. six of the world's ten fastest growing economies from 2001 to 2010 were african. according to ventures africa, the continent now has 55 billionaires. great strides have been made in creating wealth and expanding development. there have been advances in education, health care, and poverty alleviation. so despite all of these gains, why is africa so far behind on good governance? there there are a number of decades old factors. one of them is new. china. ngos and western countries have tied aid to greater transparency, but china has up-ended the system. beijing is known to give aid and sign trade deals with no strings
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attached. instead, it's priority is to extract commodities at the best possible price, and that in turn has led to the commodities boom which has fueled growth in africa. according to a new york university study, trade between china and africa has risen from $10 billion in 2000 to $166 billion in 2011, a 16-fold increase. china is now africa's largest trade partner, and as i reported last week, china's total aid budget has surged as well from $1.7 billion in 2001 to more than $189 billion in 2011, a substantial chunk of that aid goes to africa. in the short term, africa's leaders may rejoice at having struck a good deal. they no longer need to listen to western criticism because china and other countries like brazil and india are willing to trade no strings attached, but africa's dictators should be aware.
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all they need to do is look north to the arab world and they will see what happens when leaders suppress freedom and stick around too long. meanwhile, africa's young population, and it is huge, is getting smarter, more connected, and perhaps more likely eventually to rebel against repression. up next, counting the damage from washington's shutdown. i have two smart economists, martin wolf and zani wynton betters to explain it all. h is great...what? he's using you. he probably has a citi thankyou card and gets 2x the points at restaurants. so he's just racking up points with me. some people... ugh! no, i've got it. the citi thankyou preferred card. now earn 2x the points on dining out and entertainment, with no annual fee.to apply, go to citi.com/thankyoucards
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off. they were unarmed when they were captured. officials tell cnn they were waiting on a ride to come from atlanta. it's unclear where the two men were expecting to go from there. fred? >> thanks so much, nick valencia. we'll get much more on this developing story at the top of the hour, 2:00 eastern time in the "newsroom." i'm fredricka whit fiefielwhitf. after the events of the last few weeks, america could certainly stand to look at itself in the mirror. but how did it all appear to those looking at it through the window? what does it all mean for the economies of the united states and the rest of the world? we have two of our favorite foreigners, favorite people, economic experts, joining us in studio today. martin wolf is the chief economics commentators at the financial times and zanny minton beddoes is the economics editor of "the economist." welcome back. zanny, how much damage has already been done? the fact that things of sort of
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resolved, where do we stand in terms of the damage to america's credibility? >> i think tough break that down into real damage and damage to reputation, and they're slightly damage. the real damage to the world economy comes to the damage already done to the u.s. economy. it's not negligible. at the beginning of the shutdown, it was hoped week by week it would have a small impact. people are beginning to down gra downgrade their forecasts for the fourth quarter. the u.s. was expected to be the bright light of the world economy next year, so that's one bit. the reputational damage i think is really quite considerable. around the world people have been looking at the u.s. with a mixture of schadenfreude to use the german word. there are a lot of' mer emergin markets that face real debt crisis. they can't imagine a country would manufacture one. and then this is the biggest economy in the world.
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it is playing with fire behaving so erratically, behaving so irresponsibly in the views of the rest of the world, and they worry it could then really hurt them and the rest of the world would suffer along with everyone else if this playing by fire actually resulted in a real catastrophe. >> you wrote a column in "the financial times" saying just abolish the debt ceiling. it is an invitation to mischief and crises. explain very simply why because the united states is almost unique in the world. there are few other countries, but no major economy that has this thing called a debt ceiling. >> yes. it's a completely absurd device introduced apparently fin the first world world. it's absurd. if it's not lifted, it requires the president to break the law. since the president has an oath of office to uphold the law, that's an absolutely criminal thing to do because the president is obliged to run the administration in such a way that the spending obligations, which are legal obligations,
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whether the tea party likes it or not, they're part of the law, that he does implement the spending obligations which congress and he have duly passed. so if he doesn't -- if he isn't allowed to do that and he would not be allowed if he couldn't borrow in certain circumstances, he would default on something, but i think the analysis is quite clear. this restraint potentially if it bites forces the president to break the law, and that's not a situation that any law should do. >> i think the rest of the world has had a very rapid lesson in american civics. the debt ceiling to most people seems bizarre. if a congress agrees on various spending things, the idea it has to separately agree to raise the debt ceiling, to raise the money to pay for them seems crazy. it invites what martin said, which is this sort of internal inconsistency. congress is say, yes, yes, we're
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going to vote for the spending but we're not going to -- >> to borrow the money to pay for the spending. >> above your piece was an interesting piece by a chinese economist, david li, very well respected by the chinese government, in which he said, look, it's mystifying how the united states is acting but it's also mystifying why china continues to buy so much american debt, why the chinese buy so many treasury bills. he outlines a simple way in which the chinese can diversify into a bunch of things. they could easily put a trillion, trillion and a half dollars into other countries' bonds, into corporate bonds, which are all very high quality. don't you think that people in china and perhaps in other countries are wondering to themselves, maybe we should diversify. we don't need those many treasury bills. >> i think that's perfectly plausible. if they regard these -- and they did in some ways -- as the safest assets in the world and then that must have taken a
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knock, it's clear that we're going to see this again in a few months. there will be this discussion. we don't know what will happen but it might be the beginning of an ongoing circus that clearly frightens wealth holders. the treasuries are a very bad long-term wealth holding. and david li is right. china should be looking at the whole asset composition of its foreign assets and start diversifying away from treasuries. >> we have to go, but i want to quickly get your sense as to whether or not you'd agree with something zanny began with. outside of this, the u.s. actually looks remarkably resilient compared with other countries in the world. you have, you know, broad had be been based, slow, but very steady co-rfer ri. that's the tragedy. >> the u.s. economy has survived a massive fiscal tightening. >> the sequester cuts.
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>> and the whole deal. bts it's about a 3% of gdp tightening now over so the u.s. looks good to me. i'm quite optimistic about the u.s. in the next year or so. >> i might not be quite as bullish as that but i think the u.s. has the potential to accelerate but i worry we've been here again and again and each time things have been messed up and we haven't got beyond this 2% growth. the answer to the question as always will depend on washington. it depends on what they do early next year. if we continue this serial uncertainty, the recovery will not be as strong as it could be. >> thank you. as always. remember the chilean miners who were buried underground for 69 days? shall are they? i spoke to the president of chile. where are they? i spoke to the president of chile.
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september 11th has a different meaning for the people of chile. on that day 40 years ago, general augusta pinot shay seized power in a bloody military coup. nearly 38,000 people were eventually imprisoned and often
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tortured. fast forward 40 years, and chi e has become south america's richest country and a consolidated democracy. i sat down recently with the president of chile, sebastian pinera. we talked about what the world can learn about his country. we began with an update on another event chileans will never event. in august 2010, 33 dill layian miners were buried deep underground when there was a cave-in. but they survived. for 69 long days the chilean government with the help of nasa and others worked on trying to free these men. the televised triumphant moment was watched by an estimated 1 billion people around the world. welcome, mr. president. let me ask you, first, the world's attention was focused on those chilean miners, and in a way that was the last moment
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that the entire world was looking at chile. how are they? what is that situation? is there any update you can give us? >> well, that experience was really a very emotional one because it started as a tragedy and ended as a real blessing, and it was a real commitment with life, faith, hope, and chilean people remember that. since then there have been a lot of things happening, but all of the miners are now trying to retake their lives. for some of them it has been more difficult because they were under such pressure, but we have been working with them very closely. >> you talked about it began as a tragedy and ended up as a blessing. in some ways the story of chile itself over the last 40 years can be described that way. this is the 40th anniversary of the coup. >> yes.
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>> it was seen widely as a tragedy, but now we look at chile and it is the richest, most successful country in latin america. do you believe that going through that period under pinochet, particularly the economic reforms that took place in the last few years of his presidency, were essential to creating the powerhouse chilean economy that we now see? >> chile was the poorest spanish colony and has become the country with the highest income, and our target, our goal, our mission is to overcome underdevelopment and defeat poverty before the end of this decade. that was our main commitment when we came to power. it is true that during the regime, many economic reforms
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were on the take, we opened up the economy to the world, we introduced a real social economic economy. those things were very valuable. but at the same time, there was a huge problem with human rights. >> so 40 years ago the coup, you had the referendum which ended military rule and it was a peaceful transition and it has been a successful transition. what do you think has made it so successful? >> i think that the main lesson is that you have to deal on basic issues. we are going to recover our democracy and most of us are
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responsible for that. in our case first recover our democracy and our democratic system which is the normal way of life for the people. it was an exception in our democratic history. we made an agreement to follow the path of the social economy and the third, we made a strong agreement that human rides must be strong in any circumstances. those were the pillars of the agreement that was reached 25 years ago and that is why chile has been successful. >> you have had it disrupted by this dictatorship for the egyptians there is no history of democracy.
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that is true. we have had 200 years interrupted only twice and in egypt it is different. they never have lived in a real democracy. so for them it is half. they know that they want to get rid of the military government or the government but they have to learn how to live in the government. that is something that is not easy. >> you did something that no president in the world has done which is you sat in the desk at the oval office that franklin roosevelt and president obama has sat in. did the president seem to mind? >> he went to chile and sat in my desk. so when i came to the oval office and we had our meetings and fres cpress conferences i sn i sit in your desk it was called
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the resolute. it was taken from a ship that sank. a british ship. i sat there and he stayed behind me. so he was -- he gave me a chance. >> it was a pleasure to have you on. it has been my pleasure. that was sebastian pinierra the president of chile. >> out of tragedy some may call it good news. i'll explain. across america people are taking charge of their type 2 diabetes with non-insulin victoza®. for a while, i took a pill to lower my blood sugar, but it didn't get me to my goal. so i asked my doctor about victoza®.
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two years ago today momar ghadafi was captured and he was the longest serving leader in africa and the arab world. which brings me to my question of the week.
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what non-royal national leader has run his country the longest? a, b, c or d. stay tuned and we'll tell you the correct answer. go to cnn.com/fareed for the challenge. you can also follow us on twitter and facebook. if you ever miss a show or special go to itunes.comand download them. this week's book is "the tea party and the remaking of the republican conservatism". read this book. very well done. in 199910,000 people were killed when a ferocious cyclone hit
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india. it was once again in the crosshairs. this time it was the region's most powerful storm of the century. but a million additions were evacuated to shelters ahead of time. only 21 people seem to have lost their lives. thousands of others were saved. technology has enabled us to save lives. we are better than ever at predicting the storms. you still need a government that manages these situations well and for that, all credit to the government which has learned from the mistakes of 1999. the correct answer to our gps challenge question was b, fidel castro. he outlasted 9 u.s.

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