how young voters could impact the 202014 election cycle. they also discussed the challenges the democratic and republican parties face in getting their messages out to voters. this event was hosted by georgetown university's institute of politics and public service and runs just under an hour. >> good evening. i'm a sophomore in the college of arts and sciences majoring in political economy. i've been involved in politics as a part of the spring 2024 fellow lopez student strategy

team. i >> i am a second year policy student. and i am also a member. >> tonight we are excited to host an event on what politicians are getting wrong about the young voters with a panel of professionals as we approach the 2024 general election it's more important between president joe biden and former president donald trump. there will be an estimated aging into the electorate becausect we are 2024 >> it is our pleasure today to introduce the panelist who includes spring 2024 geopolitics fellow white house correspondent senior democratic strategist former spokesperson for justice democrats and republican

posterior sounding partner. our panel will be moderated politics director for teen vogue. following the panel's remarks it will take your questions and eight live audience q&a format. join the conversation on social media tagging. now please join me in welcoming our panelists. [applause] >> thank you so much for having us. we are here to talk about the 2024 election. as you mentioned over the next four years at genx and millennial's largest chair of eligible voters in the united states that this is happening at a time young people feel increasingly disillusioned especially at the national level. went to get into that overnight what's motivating young voters

how exactly are elected officials of failing to connect with young people? so to start i am curious how many of you plan to vote in the presidential race? all right. how many feel excited to vote? aren't we have like to and have hands. [laughter] this comes up a lot and our in r coverage at teen vogue. young people are not very hyped about the prospect of a biden/trump rematch. i am hoping you can start by setting the stage. what's a low enthusiasm of young voters and mean in terms of the white house and congress? is incredibly important across all the battleground states. i think even we will both say

the election will be close. i would say since 2018 or so young voters have had pretty consistent if not increasing turnout. strong turnout in midterms and presidential election cycles. in the last presidential election cycle joe biden received about 60% roughly 18 -- 29 -year-olds. that was true when it broke down into the battleground states. right now he's not doing as well amongst the 18 -- 29-year-old cohort. despite the fact it still holds true young voters and maybe some will disagree with this but overall jen's ears based on polling, focus groups, will say they believe the government should be involved at a lot of

fixes across the board. whether it's climate change, reproductive rights, you name the existential crisis young voters see has looming on the horizon for they feel as though the government should be in some part of that. maybe not the entire part of it but a part of what contributes to that fix. overall jen's z is well as millennial's have leaned more to the left then they have to the right there is a gender gap that's more true among young women than young men. i think right now i am preparing to start to go out when the fellowship ends to the battleground states. my first stop will beat michigan. we are preparing for that coverage right now. it is on young voters. what they are thinking and feeling right now in michigan.

and in preparation for that obviously one of the big issues is going to be israel/gaza for voters there. they are not happy with president biden. they are not happy with his policies. i was talking to a source today there was a shift by the white house today. president biden essentially told netanyahu if you do not start changing your approach if you do not provide concrete plans in terms of humanitarian aid, in terms of your approach to gaza we are going to condition any future aid to israel. i was talking to a source and i said do you think that's going to change young voters minds at all about president biden or they might start to shift more to him again they said no. it is essentially a cease-fire achieved are there going to be questioning whether or not they would to support him.

that is not everything i think is on the minds of young voters very think abortion is going to be a big issue, economy as well. i will end there. >> left back i'm also curious patrick what you've seen on the enthusiasm gap for young people when it comes in terms of biden. really any interesting. >> their proposals all over the map be of some polls out there that have gained headlines for showing donald trump even pulling ahead among younger voters. i don't think that's likely don't think it's likely trump wins the youth vote. however i do think it is probable the biden margin from four years ago is going to be reduced and that's due to several factors. not all of them generational in nature. we have had a shift especially in the 2020 election cycle. every poll has confirmed pretty

much we have seen a massive shift among non- white voters. the younger generations are much more diverse i see it in the room. they are much more diverse than the traditional electric that votes in every single presidential election and midterm election and special election. it seems like it because you've had that shift among latinos, african-americans in the polls that is automatically going to reflect upon a younger voters becoming more competitive because they are much more diverse group. and in our own polling we have seen young voters specifically at shifting about 15 -- 20 points from 2020. a lot of that is drilling down among young white men who have shifted about 20 or 22 points towards trump.

in particular when you drill down further the people in that cohort who did not vote in 2020 are already a majority group. among young white men who did not vote in 2020 trump is at 51% young non- white voters who voted in 2020. they are still a group. when it comes to turn out it's a big question who turns out. if biden has an enthusiasm problem obviously you can debate to what extent he is losing poster trump. people are switching to trump. more than just people tuning out. it is some combination of those two things happen. in 2020 we sought latino committees asian communities shift to the right. we also saw a very high turnout in the 2020 election.

these are still democratic groups. fewer people are turning out. that is a pretty dangerous situation that compounds on itself. >> i was going to get to this later i am curious. a majority of young people don't get involved they are more likely to be independence. so i am curious. i'm curious why you all think that is and whether you see that continuing moving forward. ima millennial i grew up in the era. people really put off by that. a lot of young people don't see

themselves in institutional democratic party. >> some of that is a symptom of a two-party system. you have so much of our politics is determined about how much you hate the other party. most people vote for they can do it because they do not want the other candidate to get in. that dampens enthusiasm for partisan identification. while young people and those independence lead toward democrat i think if you look at parallel examples in so many countries and around the world especially in europe and latin america, there but new political parties represent young people because so many people got dissatisfied with center left this country is taken the shape of aoc and bernie sanders but is there within the democratic party. there's just lots -- practice not strong party loyalty to the brand of the democrat party.

on some things being discussed earlier non- white young men, so polling after 2020 should one of the largest predictors of whether or not young latino men is how they felt about black lives matter for young black men is how they felt that undocumented immigration. it's very similar -- it's a difficult thing to talk about but is not that different from the history of this country a people's relationships in the democratic party to the question of proximity to the black experience and proximity to new immigrants. you go to the georgetown library and read so many books of the irish became white of the italians became white of the jews became white.

they'd been there for one, two, three generations and do not identify with either the black experience of systemic racism or don't identify with undocumented immigration. they feel pigeonholed needing to identify with either of those two groups in order to be a democrat. particularly with young men. it's one of the craziest polls i so with latino voters after 2020 jubilee systemic racism is a problem? that indicated whether or not you're going to vote for trump or not. there are lots of things like that that are profound tectonic shift happening in american society. the american culture. people write books about like 20 and 30 years from now. see trends happening that patrick moore was mentioning.

>> i know he talks a lot of young people some of the other posters and people who can dock to group some are nonpartisan and researchers they are picking up on some think they are not sure is necessarily going to be accurate. but one thing to keep an eye on his 18 -- 21 -year-olds. they may vote slightly differently than 21 -- 29 -year-olds. because 18 -- 21 -year-olds and maybe some of those were and what fifth or sixth grade when trump was in office? what they are noticing and some of the focus groups is this 18 -- 21 -year-olds are more open to president trump because they don't really have a concrete memory of him. or a firm memory of him. or an established memory of him because they're so young when he was in office. they viewed him more as a

character. to what he's talking about they officially -- men within a cohort nestlé 21 -- 29 -year-olds. whether you are looking at young latinos, young black voters, young black women there is a gender gap. the other factor is interesting is a black voters democratic about 80% or more of the black vote historically. you see somewhat of a shift that patrick was talking about. particularly among young black men. one thing that could be contributing to that is the black church has often been really key why a black voters when they are talking and

socializing they stay in lockstep. they have a similar community within the black church. jen's ears are like millennial's. they are the two generations that are the least likely to be religious page of any type of religious affiliation. so they do not go to church. they are the least likely to go to church two. they are not as attached to the democratic party is older black voters. they're not in the same spaces. >> that's so fascinating. they have seen a president trump or i think in 2016 and blew everyone's mind. that is really interesting. circling back a little bit, i do want to make it clear that just because young people might be apathetic about this

presidential race it does not meet you all are apathetic in general. there's so much amazing organizing happening around state and local campaigns. measures to protect rights in those measures at the state level. issued based organizing on climate, peace fire, gun violence, so many things. you'll be talking to these young organizers all the time and i'm wondering why they say that's why they are investing their energy? >> there's huge tectonic shifts happening when different sectors of our country and our world starting with our culture. try to identify lgbtq as republicans. >> soup with that polyp? a quarter of jen's the identify lgbtq gen x are not close those

numbers at all. another poll was gender norms have shifted dramatically in the last 10 years just it what societal expectations are. people at georgetown forget this. they have not finished a college degree. there's huge shifts in the economy around tech. most millennial engines eat do not think they will own a home. this change shows engaged with the economy they put up the famous report in 2018 that led to the aoc green in new deals at the u.s. had 10 years to get off of fossil fuels to save off climate disaster but in our democracy we have the system it's reasonable would not be

enthusiastic and yet the and the problems i just named what is absurd to think voting for generic democrat is going to address all those issues. i think they feel so huge and they feel so different than what the generic democrat stands for and believes. i'm using those two because they are cross the river. >> it's kind of the mainstream of the party. i think a lot of young people this is a genius strategy we've gridlocked the system and democracy becomes closed to solving societal problems. since the tea party the last 10 or so congresses have been the least productive congresses in our history since the reconstruction of the civil war. young people look at that the inputs of the democracy and the outputs are not blind. you see what happens with the popular vote.

it makes sense young people are cynical. it is part of the republican strategy to make a democracy pretty gridlocked to achieving anything. to make government not work. to make government be unable to fix people's problems like the republican narrative to not have government solve problems to leave that to the free market. there has been so many social limits left by that young people from occupied to black lives matter to the sunrise movement to what's happening with the cease-fire resolutions of october. i think young people have focused their efforts in shaping public opinion and moving public opinion. politics is not just about changing public opinion ask any gun violence prevention activist 90% of the countries with you. what's that piece of the political puzzle to create

legislative change? i do think many young people are at this place they cannot see the connection between those changes and potable outcomes. >> just in the period of intense economic anxiety people have been at the margins of the economy i think have felt the brunt with inflation and the rising cost to own a home. it is not surprising people are frustrated with that. it's not that we see young people by that statistic. beating down the doors of the republican party. party.that is not what's going . it is you have there's so much discussion about joe biden's

age. the problem with joe biden is not that he is old but too many young voters heat represents an old politics. they saw somebody like bernie sanders challenge the establishment joe biden seems to embody the establishment more than anyone. that is unwittingly reinforced by the message around democracy and protecting our institutions. it reinforces the idea for a lot of people to not be working really well. institutions don't seem to be working really well particularly for this generation. who is not a traditional republican. is not the stereotypical image of republican. i remember back when you had jon stewart show clips about the college republican who looks

older then your grandfather or something like that. that is not the image donald trump projects even though his nearly as old as joe biden. it's effectively a third-party insurgent candidate running as a republican. he is not tied down or weighed down by i think the negative association many young voters have with republican conservative ideology. after that there's so many third-party candidates were are huge a wildcard this year. particularly someone who is been an double digits and especially on the margins i think will hurt president biden. not because i think the ideological alignments make a ton of sense here. it is because i think right now president biden's base is more disaffected so there is more

room for defection. even though rfk junior and donald trump resemble each other and a lot of their views and antiestablishment positioning. so joe biden has to deal with i think challenges coming from multiple sites right now. >> considering the question of low voter turnout among young people. i am wondering what changes the needle on this every election cycle you're lecturing people about the importance of voting and shaming them about it telling them vote, vote, vote no matter what you got the vote. there is trotting out influencers and celebrities to put out messages along the same lines. is that -- of their expected to be low turnout now will that make a difference? what does when you hear from young voters? >> i don't think there's going to be low turnout.

there's not been low turnout since 2000. [inaudible] they may disagree that based on my reporting could there be lower turnout, yes? if they vote on committed young voters upset with president biden who are part of the 60% decide liquid to stay home. which they could they could decide to stay home or protest vote. maybe rfk junior protest vote. with the polls show now there is so much time between now and november for that to change. i would be frankly apprised if turnout among young voters lower than 2020. that's maybe more if mike got

punch is totally. >> in political couple months ago asked me too do a three paragraph the thing but biting to do to win the young people's vote and there's like 10 people respond to the question and nine of them had nothing to do a policy they're all about tiktok, youtube and this kind of thing. i do think there are substantive policy issues with biden they're not about outreach or tiktok or being old. primarily the war in gaza. not just the worm because i think inflation's a big issue is many young people in the service economy. if you look at the times of the uncommitted vote which is the second largest on committed turnout by percentage they mapped where the largest arab community and they did an

overlay of where the community is concentrated. it's really voters under 30 not the somali community. it doesn't pull up as a top. assembling out the top and climates usually number two. three is the war my experience it's a lot of young people are going to have potentially lower information young people are going to pick that as an option talk to some is close to biden yesterday retailing there's a

divide in the white house. cap the inner circle doesn't show anything kind of what you are saying. who knows the scandal. who knows what the crisis will be in october elections are decided what happens in october know what i have before. was pretty significant the reading of the polls had that conversation of michigan democrats. her polls showed amongst young people amongst voters democratic voters in michigan under 30 are

only three points behind biden in terms of enthusiasm. i think there's a real worry there involves the white house i would be concerned. they are very concerned about voters over 65 who are ed and nikki haley's kind of can't. that's who they are looking to. they think they can drive up there and that's kind of fell by to 12020 had both young people and i saw something that shows voters over 65 you have a college degree are most swinging toward democrat demographics of the think biden really cares that is the bread and butter. >> is a much more natural fit. should we open it up to questions? what sort open up to questions from the audience. if you could just say your name and what you study or something like that. don't be shy.

[inaudible] of public policy student. my question is significantly older that is been a talking point about joe biden's age than about tom's age. as a when you have an impact? >> we did some polling on this. it's pretty remarkable there's also two -- one majority saying joe biden's too old to serve effectively as president. and then the reverse for donald trump that two thirds say he is not too old to serve as president. and four years ago people did not seem to have this problem with joe biden. it seems like something has changed and those of for years about this perception. i think it really comes down to

the energy level on both both cs tend to project. maybe a little bit more of an older, more decaffeinated donald trump would be a better version of donald trump. [laughter] i think to some extent he is reaping the benefits of old age in a way biden has not. >> tiktok also plays a role. i have had the pleasure of being a georgetown for the past two months from the students have come into our discussion groups have talked about how they have seen clips go roll by on tiktok that have been edited that makes joe biden look even more senile than he actually did if you watch the full speech or the full 20 minutes. on that is what they see and they say have never seen that about trump and you asked them have you seen clips of trump where he mixes up obama and biden or because at nikki haley

nancy pelosi, no i have not seen that. where younger people are getting their information and i am a millennial although i am not on tiktok. i think contributes to that. republicans have been very effective about really attacking president biden on his age. donald trump has made that a key element of his attack on biden. the democrats have not necessarily done that when they are attacking donald trump. they maybe have done a bit more recently in response but republicans have been doing it a lot longer wait far out like a year or more out from the election cycle. really trying to say it biden is senile and not up to the job. the harris runs the white house or barack obama runs the white house and i think that has an

effect. >> i also think it right wing media is essentially ideological propaganda machine for the republican party and donald trump. the largest platforms for right wing media. even the most democratic party like msnbc and the "new york times" or passage of america they would still have to comment on some of the gaffes if he was elderly at the right wing media it would likely never comment on anything trump did an error. the democratic party coalition still has some standards of like reporting on the news and holding accountable. compared to fox news, with the cult newsmax and these other places. they don't really criticize their own party leader that also shapes perceptions. >> the 2020 messaging is coming

back to bite him bided a bit. he very much of framed himself as a bridge in canada. this is a one turn i'm going to step off the stage that a new generation take over and now it's like i'm still here. >> they say they should never have said there they did it mean to say it. [laughter] [inaudible] click sorry. go ahead. hello hello. i am a freshman in the college study of governor of economics. my question is it is been pretty startling to me personally i have not really seen very much of biden's a policy wise the next election if he is elected besides him vague abortion and those set of rights. my question is there any policy goals you think he could put forth that would really drive up to voters for young people? >> this issue is typically framed rep older people i think

young people do care about it. just this week biden announced i'm a huge critic of joe biden but he announced a huge policy proposal he is an act with bernie sanders on prescription drugs. crickets from the mainstream media on that. it is in part because we are in an environment driven by conflict, by means and trumpets from new york city media he's from the "new york post" everything is run on tabloids and media and he knows how to play that game it's one of these things with the prescription drug is announced it's very popular. it's announced in such a boring way. for example trump was doing it the whole thing will be ceo of pfizer i'm going to take their money now. step to get people's attention. i think biden typically runs a

much more risk diverse campaign were even they have exciting the inflation reduction act is a good policy. they framed it around reducing inflation. my understanding is most young people have no idea what's in the bill it's about climate change are what they are. this risk aversion to creating conflict and controversy, productive controversy were i am like how do you make these issues interesting and exciting to drive people's attention toward it? and i don't think they figured it out but trump is very good at that. >> student with so many young people heard about the supreme court striking down. they might not have heard about the other measure of the administration. it's also you said better about messaging what they have done. how they are fighting for young

people with the policies of already announced. >> do any of you guys know how much of president biden is forgiven in debt? i am just curious. >> i thought it was 3%? >> he has forgiven roughly $150 billion worth of debt for roughly 4 million give or take. it may not have the number slightly off of borrowers. nobody knows about it, it is crazy. current lots of questions now. >> hello. my name is brandon i'm a senior studying economy. my question is more focused on racist on the ballot. i am curious. affect like state ledge things like that.

there's an attachment to biden and trump that is pretty negative. i am curious if for instance you think swing state senators or competitive state legislative seats are going to adjust their strategy potentially not run under the biden label or the trump label even and want to take a stand against the party as a way to try to get people who are protest voting or not voting to at least come out and vote in the races? >> i'll go really quickly. some of the folks i've talked to that are working on down ballot race for democrats say that across the board and a lot of states their candidates are pulling above biden. that could end they help him. they vote down ballot in the senate race or the house race and then decide go vote for biden. but right now and a lot of the races folks i've talked to their

democratic candidate is pulling ahead of the president. given the enthusiasm problem that he has. if you look at special elections everyonel always warn you don't read too much into them. but sometimes they can be hints of what could potentially be coming. abortion has played a huge role in the special election. there's just want someone correctly it was a state legislative race was it in alabama? yes people were pretty surprised the democrat ended up winning there. that was around reproductive rights message around ivf. you have seen invariable red states between 2022 and now a lot of the special elections have gone toward democrats or more abortion access. >> one thing i would like to

address to some extent there's a question on campaign. what's it look like this year? it's much more equally divided. there was a very revealing a similar cost effective. among young people in particular because they are not certain the margins are big enough between biden and trump for that to be a cost-effective strategy for democrats. they might end up activating certain communities for trump. that is consistent with of the polling data we have seen. maybe there is a democratic advantage. if it's only 10 points as opposed to 20 points overall i young white voters are within 20 points not 40 points is the

investment. particulate the ground level campaigns and get out to vote is dramatically different but it's a big challenge for republicans as to how they want to address this. there's been so much speculation. is the shift real? are we going to invest resources around trying to capitalize on shifts that might be happening among younger nonwhite voters in this election? in particular trumpets to identify people. it's very different from your grandfather's republican party. younger black men, younger hispanic men have the fringes of the process. who used to be a pretty reliable group. is not 50/50. even leaning towards trump. >> one thing most work on

democratic primaries. we will pull at the beginning of the race it's almost zero name recognition. but young people with every demographic. there happened familiar with some of the members of the squad and more supportive of them. three or four of them have major primaries coming up and could be unseated. in this upcoming primary i am curious some of the stuff around gaza is not just having an effect on biden but democratic c brand. if those candidates are unseated

out with young people field is not a place for core bush and others. the second thing i was going to say was that on some these down ballot races person turn the page on netanyahu calling for new elections in israel. it doesn't make that speechless he talked to the purple state senators who he is most concerned about being reelected. i assume he is hearing from some of them this is becoming an issue in their state. maybe from electoral or may be a nuisance that also gives me a sense you typically want a

senate when the senate can and a purple state is standing up to the party they do it from the right. i don't know if that end up happening in so many states are quietly pushing for the party privately to change his position. others have schumer change his position. >> i saw a poll by gallup that said more young people are starting to get into work the largest percentage of young people are now entering the workforce at like 16. i have also seen polls that show record high approval ratings for union since the 70s. i was wondering because i feel like i see a gap in biden's campaign strategy because he has been one of the most pro- union

candidates he is not aiming that pro- union sentiment towards the youngest generation. i have someone who has been working the restaurant industry since i was 16. i can see the progression of my coworkers and other restaurants down the street are all starting to unionize. that was not a conversation being had four years ago. >> i mean, think it's one of those things in this particular set of times. a year ago so many young people on the left like this guy invited the amazon workers to the white house for the skies on the picket line with uaw, go joe. i do think elections, politics and political sense of peace can be fickle like that. if you really hit at a demographics core value in this case gaza, people might flip and not remember those things but even i was like i forgot when he invited the amazon workers to the white house.

may be a city a better job of reminding people of that but it seems like young people to push the priorities because this was the issue in the media that they care more about it. half of the people who voted for president biden 2020 believe what israel is doing in gaza is a genocide. most numbers are powered by voters under 45. is the worst thing possible but regardless of whether or not you think it's a genocide. it's a voter sentiment of how you feel. to have the president and the leader of that party be backing what people consider a genocide. it does trump a lot of those others but this is a way that has to be addressed.

>> i am a student studying while business. you mentioned you had a demographics core value, i'm curious on your thoughts of thesocial conservatism of many minority groups. weatherization or latino or even black potentially as there is more people growing up in immigrant households were immigrants themselves come from cultures that are significantly more socially conservative. as a democratic party goes more into identity politics, gender politics that should be a contributing factor on the shift to the right. >> that's absolutely happening. the polling has been pretty clear among voters the big shift is happening nonwhite voters who identify as conservative i have personally have conservative values. at least answering the polling question and saying i am

conservative. but historically most nonwhite out of solidarity voted for the democratic party. you are starting to see that loyalty breakdown as people are more voting their ideology. voting their values. you see that this is like the rio grande valley. light and little savannah, miami, i think that is a big deal. but among young people i think one of the more fascinating developments is the rise of the podcasting realm where joe rogan, you had usc. you have the rise of crypto especially young men geared toward them specifically taking

contrarian positions against feminism. against covid mandates. and you see -- mike we asked about some of these things in our polling. as gender white men are listeners of joe rogan are fans fences of the usc or trade crypto. and those people, that majority of people is much more pro trump then the rest of the young electric. what does that mean? i don't necessarily think there's much evidence that's creating a shift right. i do think it creates a rallying point where before democrats can go to college campuses to rally a majority of people and college in collegecampuses and register. i think there's a virtual social media realm is creating.

>> this one is talking about earlier in my remarks. it is not new. the profound cultural shifts happening in the country. typically the way elections work really great example of gay marriage the black community was not favor until obama endorsed it. but opposition to gay marriage is not a triumphant issue over other issues to leave the democratic party. as a partisan loyalty and partisan brand affiliation disappeared, some of the other issues especially because of social media writing to the top of priority but with his gender politics of race politics. i think both the left and the democratic party establishments have this issue with that kind of arises around 2014.

the data i have shown voters don't care about ally schipper if he asked them to ally with another community they want to do it themselves their own interests but there's another community emissary time. if you asked other communities theoretically to ally black lives matter and proximity to blackness they will reject that out of self-interest what they've been taught about this country history of what blackness means. it's similar with new coming immigrants and undocumented immigrants as well. if you force these communities to choose between their own community and another community they will always choose their own community. that causes them to become more conservative. stephen miller in 2021 started 85o1c3 organization that sent out my list almost every asian american in the country,

including me. this percentage of black people are getting into ivy league colleges the percentage of asians or bank rejected stand up against racism it was said really big. made up an organization same claim to be from asian-american organization but is funded. that stuff is successful thing to have arguments about racial democracy civil rights of all communities that create not just pit self-interest against each other make a zero-sum game. not many figured it out. >> a closing question?

>> one quick question part right before us or the q&a we were talking with the white house focusing on voters over 65 but their efforts there. could you talk a little bit more about that demographic and how it compares to young voters specifically in terms of turnout, size, persuade ability? are there issues that are helpful for the white house for one of those groups would you make of that strategy. older noncollege educated. they switch sides. they basically gone the opposite

direction. older nikki haley voters. basically older than millennial and above. gen x and above. if they are a nikki haley voters see things in a 30% are not happy with donald trump. they will persuade voters to vote for president biden based on things based on january 6. based on fears defending the constitution of the going to get 30% of republicans and other not. if they are lucky they might get six or 7% or so they are persuadable. i was just talking -- i was just

looking at a focus group those two-time trump voters. an older about around the age of 60 or so or older per two-time trump voters who are not happy with former president donald trump. it was around the fact he was facing these trials and facing these felony -- the 91 felony counts. that is who the biting campaign is really focus on right now. they really think if they can get them in states like arizona, states like pennsylvania capping insolent prices that would be a winning message for him particularly older voters? >> social movements in the 60s and 70s.

but college educated as a sign of the victories they want from civil rights to the feminist movement and abortion to the climate environmental movement. to ldp her proud of those achievements i feel other causes it is this kind of is not the theone to one the things the moments young people once boomers were part of the 60s

and 80s have a seat at the table yet. >> hopefully they will get the doors. then we can probably ended there i think. thank you so much everyone for coming out. that was great too. [applause] [applause]