washington d.c. >> thank you all for joining us today for this profoundly timely event on the 75th anniversary of u.s. israel alliance, i like to start with the prayer. heavenly father, pray for our friends in israel and all americans that they stand with our israeli friends and the jewish people in this terrible time, we pray for your guidance and wisdom as we go through these discussions today and not only celebrate anniversary is required.

the timing of this event because we have been talking about this for two years so we hoped to have it this may and i was upset what was rescheduled and felt like i failed but to be able to join together today and talk about these topics, talk about u.s. israel security alliance and anti-semitism two weeks after the horrific responsibility for heritage to host these discussions and i am excited to hear what everyone has to say and hopefully engage in the spirit looking at the next 25 years and what can come of this. one other quick thing i want to mention is october 23, 40th

anniversary of the their and date that is powerful for me because the day after the 24th, my former boss got the call to come to washington and manage the crisis "afterwards" so working after his retirement on that topic was my introduction to the middle east and introduction to terrorism referred to bomber, a smiling death the trust pulled into the barracks the bombers were smiling and does chilling for us as we contemplate the horrible beds of october 7 the we with

which they carried out the atrocity so clearly we have our work cut out for us and we are fortunate to have representation that it is my pleasure to introduce my friends, previously served as chief of the israeli ministry of foreign affairs, we have history together going back a few years. a distinguished career including both china and the united states so join me in welcoming commission regimen.

[applause] >> thank you for having me today. thank you senator ernest or being with us. we gather here today to look at the 75 years of client israel and states. when we have things happening, not a single person in this room imagine 75 years of israel jewish people experienced this

deadly act since the holocaust. october 7, hamas initiated this. october 7 should have been a joyful day celebrating the jewish holiday but instead we were confronted with devastating reality of almost unprovoked attacks. 1400 people massacred. over 4000 wounded and about 210. amongst them american citizens killed, injured, objective.

you are person impacted my own brother lives adjacent to the border was important in the house for my brother just outside the window hoping nobody would come. they managed to escape only to learn later on the front two houses down were gunned down and lost the family. israel is war and maybe a long one. israel didn't choose to start this war but we will react in

the international law. israel is working hard to evacuate harm's way is doing and sure innocent civilians are, attacks against immunity is a work in unity of anyone especially uninvolved hamas is not allowing his provide aid or informational is alive and who is not like to take the opportunity to call everyone of

you and call about the movies immediately. make no mistake, like every other nation in the, israel has the right and duty to defend against brutality of terrorism individual analysis eliminated we will not and should not encouraging. israel's northern border hezbollah responsible for all from care. destructive war, israel doesn't wish to have war but we are prepared to do what it takes to negate any threat that comes our way. president biden said don't. we have seen the media's

portrayal, is critical the united states continues to support and stand shoulder to shoulder with israel as a test for 75 years. they after all creation played our two countries that freedom of democracy movement to oppose terrorism. the biden's visit expresses support for israel i said visits about his numbers and u.s. military support was significant demonstration in the united

states and israel joining in coordination support of the west is recent military support. toward the goal. strategic continue to stand against care coordination with long-standing allies.

congress exhibited a remarkable display of partisan support for israel lawmakers on both sides of the aisle came together to underscore the commitment to israel's security right to defend itself. promising life is legislative recognized situation overwhelming show of support the rising tide of anti-semitism in the united states is concerning underscores the critical importance of clinical grade discrimination and hatred toward jewish communities not only threatened the well-being of wish for principals of current inclusivity notice take dan's work.

raising awareness, the public and taking appropriate action to confront this issue you can work toward a safer society safety and security of the jewish communities across the country. demonstration against israel we see no equals supporting, israeli folk with little time to properly mourn yet despite overwhelming sorrow we have resolute refusing care israel has demonstrated remarkable community and resilience and have come together. in the midst of conflict uncertainty the nation ...

solidarity religious divide in all walks of life. the chronicle of our homeland. our people and the political leadership to ensure the nation security and the defense is expanding over the prices for people to come to the unwavering determination exhibited by israel throughout this challenging.

the nations resilience our ability and strong. something we cannot do the united states. toward the future and it remains substantial for the only regional between united states and israel strategic significance stitched's geopolitical landscape fostering bipartisan consensus on shared value and it will be pivotal. we do thank you for ongoing support and support going

forward. seventy-five years celebration is changed. seventy-five years together is a clear message to get. [applause] >> thank you very much please send all greetings are phones in jerusalem. i like to begin our first panels israel security doing incredible

work in the senate armed services committee, a distinguished member and is back from the first u.s. election official on the ground,. [applause] also welcome the director of the national defense, moderating our discussion and i will serve as your second panel. [applause]

u.s. provided israel with 155 security domain and a lot of to address which it has been. the most preeminent capability and it's been tested many times and you all know it's been tested again. the attack on october 7 with the most deadly israel's history and most of the attack against u.s. americans since 9/11 so in this we are not merely observers, we are because of the city the first question i ask, because israel who recipient additional resources following israel's second declaration of war.

how porn has our investment been? >> thank you for this incredibly victorious time and it's very important and support israel now more so than ever. i will take off a couple of weeks when i was on the ground and israel i had already embarked on congressional delegation trip to the middle east and started in the uae and the bicameral delegation in saudi arabia and go into israel joining in conversation at the regional conference. we were just leaving saudi arabia we heard about israel.

maybe like many of you when i woke up that morning to find out about a rocket attack, he said we can't go into israel. israel is being attacked by hamas and by thought was, we could wait a few hours, we should be able to go in not understanding the severity of attacks, this is not normal because israel is attacked all the time from gaza, this was a daily occurrence of the rockets into israel. this was an all out onslaught against israel and as we got back door, it became more and more clear by we need to continue supporting israel. we were able to push into israel on the tenth of october much to the chagrin of our state

department traveling into israel but the folks on the ground were so thankful we were there and able to stand side-by-side with the prime minister and stand with the people of israel and against these horrific attacks but a mosque so as we look at this, the simple answer is more important than ever but not only do we need to do on the defense of israel, i would say it's much harder against iran as well because a lot of this comes directly out of a red. >> thank you very much, sonia, i know your visit meant a great

deal to our partners and allies cannot stay our attention. israel is in the final stages of a long anticipated ground invasion to destroy hamas and the. the administration asking for delays, what should we be doing to support our partners and allies. >> i think right now when all israelis and americans need to hear an unequivocal message of support for israel's right to self-defense, it's become something of a talking., what does it need? israel has the right with help of fear of thousands of, terrorist across the border on a random saturday, supposed to be

a holiday. what's clear to me as we gather information on that terrible day, we are still getting updates as they justify more bodies, stark contrast between good and evil here, there are no shades of gray. there's good and there's evil s. i think what we need to do is united states is put on jersey, i think we should put on white jersey in this case and get in the fight. obviously the hostage situation is profoundly difficult in a uniquely horrific way. we have israeli and american citizens and citizens from other countries as well, they didn't ask for the cap floods, they just took them back to gaza and i know it is weighing on everyone's heart heavily at the

same time, israel cannot live with this threat and unless it is eradicated now, we will wind up in a situation where it could happen again and that is ultimately intolerable saw when the senators experience last discussions that go on, many elements of the u.s. government would be involved, it would be a complex operation but i think the message needs to be simple but the u.s. and israel stand together the matter could not agree more especially on the stark contrast between good and evil knowing what was perpetrated. it could not be more part. senator, you mentioned iran and we know from secretary austin testimony in march from january

21, iran into surrogates and proxies launched 83 attacks against u.s. forces to which we only responded four times and in the last seven days we been attacked an additional eight times by iranian proxies in syria and iraq. what should we be doing and calling for to address this? >> i would say having been a soldier serving in that region, rules of engagement anytime we went into iraq if you are fired upon, iraq. why are we not doing that as united states of america? anytime we have a terrorist group born coming after our men and women, american citizens, we need to retaliate, go back and go back hard.

we need to make sure these other countries, terrorist proxy groups know and understand that but what we have seen is an administration of appeasement. they will do what i can to get on the bad side of authoritarian regime to get on the bad side of terrorists heaven. in addition to everything they can to get the agreement with karen going against ... a promise continuing down the path of appeasement, $6 billion of assets which i think hamas and attacks on israel seen this administration not enforce sanctions already in place. iranian oil exports are at a

five-year high sale of only goes to fund, polysemy islamic jihadists, has a senior administration do everything they can make life easier for canadian people that essentially what they have done is make the mission of a mosque others much easier to think that both death to america and death to israel so happy get our efforts in congress democratic partners as well not just all democrats wish to do everything for a man, that's not true. we do have good partners at the do support is relevant i will

call more and more on partners to push back against the administration and appeasement of heaven. >> grateful for your leadership on this, it's most welcome and incredibly gratifying. it is difficult to understand and appreciate why we are not responding to unparalleled revocation. our time of the white house one of our efforts was successfully concluded in 20202 bring israel within the responsibility for circumstances like this. in your view, how has not helped the u.s. and israel prepare for what may be the regional escalation? >> i may be taking my life into my hands by lecturing you

remember i was when i learned israel pleasant yukon, not centcom. it seems so discordant to me and there were a lot of reasons, they wanted to observe nato and the real reason came out, it was basically the military club and they were unwilling to allow israelis and it doesn't make any sense. the positive things will during the trump administration, the court reaching new lease agreements for 25 years between israel and arab neighbors in

maybe we can rectify this and as we go in the next 25 years of the relationship, israel is seen as part of it region where it is located. it might seem symbolic but i think it is critical because arrangement and having is written yukon is one thing that allows others is survival not even the right place and i think writing the lungs, recognizing israeli territory moving the visa powerful messages have united states to help others clarity now happened as we look

at regional response to the seven, everyone is disappointed we are not getting one support the arab world would be nice but it's not terribly nice but with a really need is arabs not to attack israel be removed they are pretty much doing that. reality check by this move can hopefully, going forward lay the foundation for real regional security architecture that would include israel and it would be central as the power projection for the united states so that's why that was important and can be a linchpin of what we do

going forward connecting we have seen positive comments from israeli security establishment and the united states and is long overdue. it has made a tremendous impact on formation which is incredibly vital. there is i think fear and trepidation regional escalation and conflict in this part of the world that has been systemic. we have seen not that long ago the biden administration's disastrous withdrawal from afghanistan. $83 billion of equipment reported control over the same group we took it from which as to that hesitancy and we know under then vice president biden and general often, in 2011 set the stage for isis and training

control over iraq. you see and no reluctance well, what is the best way of making those that are concerned about the conflict understand need for the united states to be involved but also the importance of israel in the region and support under these trying times? it is extremely important and stability in the region they truly are there you sure we don't continue to see the growth of the organization under iran, they are the ones that provide stabilization and continuation of safety in that region, they are pushing back against iran so it is incredibly important we continue to support israel also dropped the abraham accords and

not only do we continue to focus on these efforts with israel but also tie in all other abraham accords that sign onto the agreement and pull in saudi arabia because in arab nations, saudi arabia is there so we need to make sure we continue on the peace agreement. i have heard people say dead and gone, never coming back, that is not true. the delegations. after we had our discussion, we left feeling first about the direction the kingdom wanted to go. they realized if they want prosperity for their people, if they want greater educational opportunity for their people, israel be part of the equation.

peace needs to be part of the equation. the one thing iran pierce's peace in the region because of these countries coming together provide a four seconds i will pivot back, victoria laid out dutifully by the nations need to come together and how we work together. part of that is security cooperation in the region and because of the abraham accords working with the kingdom as well, we have been able to put in place through congress my efforts on the defendant act and we are working on the maritime act now and it allowed us to pull together intelligent from all of these nations to provide an integrated air and missile defense systems so this is early morning to those nations now tied together in the air missile

defense and it allowed us to push against the rockets, any missiles from iran or proxies. collaborating with all of these countries incredibly important body peace and stability in the region allows us to have peace and stability in the united states of america. any time these actions happen, make no doubt about it, it is going to impact the united states of america. we can't turn a blind eye. i'll give one example, we cannot turn a blind eye and we must be prepared and make sure friends and allies are also prepared to make there's no question can't thank you enough for both pieces of legislation under the current circumstances is vital and we have embassies that provide

facilities so the production of our own vital. he mentioned abraham accords 902 the audience questions. i think they hold promise for the future, how to be a grain momentum of abraham accords and build an explanation from the security perspective, how to rebuild security architecture? >> i think we start by not accepting the premise of the terrorists, which is at peace instead project that have handled the conversation going through the united states congress and congress continues to support these strongly.

i have been thinking back to the summer of 2017 when we were first in the white house and terrible troubles and president trump actually intended to go through with it. as violence flared and things seemed to break down, it seemed impossible but what came out about was the recognition, increasingly over from no longer giving the palestinians veto over national security, they could not condone any longer violence, particularly against civilians which was not consistent with what they

practice so in this case being very clear about the nature of what the palestinians have done, do you really want to be associated with that or do you want to chart a path to peace? there is a reason these conversations becoming so formed between israel and saudi arabia and we saw the interviews in september and the prime minister of israel talking so openly about the process into a movement toward peace. we can get back there because as we don't get terrorists the veto, we don't get iranians detail and we continue to show the huge benefits of these relationships arabs and israelis alike make sure everybody knows it is top priority for the united states.

>> i think it is important not to forget the fact that there is little sympathy they have all admitted in her own right thing that is more sympathy in israel for this and appreciate. at this time but would love to invite you for questions, with microphones in both aisles and we will work in sequence and then go to that. if you would, please state your name and affiliation and to whom you question is directed. >> thank you for your comments. president of american friend, i want to say we stand with israeli people it is rampant that history we have a lot of conversations about every and rightly so, the backing of these

organizations how about the relationship between turkey, is it is a native ally and almost, for most as a headquarters inside turkey, thomas has openly stated and tweeted how moss is not a terrorist organization so what does it look like the united states as far as enforcing that with turkey? we tend to do as turkey says history turkey doesn't do what we say get turkey into new receive backing because it is shielded by nato. a consulate was attacked, there is a lot of pro, protests inside

of what is the united states reaction and how do you think is real should react to this? >> thank you for your question. >> i would simply say that our administration needs to step up efforts and put a lot of political pressure on everyone and turkey and disassociate themselves with hamas and declare them as a terrorist organization. unfortunately this administration, they are trying anyway they can to appease everyone they can as victoria stated, this is not a great area, is either black or white and we need our president and all those who work in this

administration to make that very clear. these are adversaries, terrorist organizations so it could not be clearer but unfortunately until this administration wakes up, we are not going to seek political pressure we can build and congress and push back where we can so we need a strong leader at this time. we don't have a strong leader at this time that mark. >> we had been encouraged recently and historically positive aspects going to a terrible crisis but everyone had something of a change of attitude over the last few years and it seemed like it was much less and could potentially get back to a better place that

senator ernst, this will have to be cleared up. >> thank you for your question. >> i spent 40 years in various parts of the first trip to israel and jerusalem and my question is, each of you, viewed as a possibility of one state or two state solution? eight like it has to be done or the other and thus israeli constitution or whatever, they affect, or speculate, pelosi to state working very well either so that each of you get comments

on back? >> i wrote an op-ed today, my title -- was right. perhaps more user-friendly title by the editor but until palestinians except there is no plan a, there can be no peace so i agree it is hard to see any solution to this the reason i went ten years ago in 1923 he wrote an essay called the iron ball in which he makes the observation if arabs think they can eradicate the jews, but as always plan a and they think that is possible, they will not move on to plan b and what we found with the abraham accords was it not only have certain arab countries accepted that the jews would not go away but they

realized they didn't want them to go away that was what led to that leap forward. palestinians obviously are not there yet. seven tells us anything, they are still fed the lie that genocide is possible in the holy land and that is what they will pursue our goal now is to convince them there is no plan, they have to move on to plan b if they want to survive as functioning entity so i would say we need to shift before we can get to any practical solution. >> i don't have much more to add, i think that was beautifully put. our waging war against israelis, this is their mission in life. this is what they were raised to do and until that changes, i'm

not sure what the bafflement is. >> thank you for the question, i'm sure it is shared by many. we can get a microphone here. >> thank you for convening this panel. i had the pleasure of hearing the briefing in my professional winterization when things were more hopeful of the abraham accords, i wanted to ask about this topic, what has to happen practically regarding development on the ground for the abraham accords to move away from their current visual posture? is a lot of hope including the people to people level, cultural

exchanges, academic exchanges and also a move away from anti-semitism as well, what has to happen to build up that momentum again? >> i defer to senator ernst coming back. >> certainly, thank you. just from from a number of leaders, there's a lot more we asked united states need to do because i will give an example with the arab emirate, he stated that she entered into the abraham accords, they would continue with cultural exchanges, education opportunities israel but they expected the united states would engage heavily in those as well. what we have seen in the course of the last several years ago the level of engagement they

expected so we have seen this administration not fully embrace the abraham of court, they let them fester a little more so, he ran towards come to fruition with the promise to these arab nations we would be all type in happy collaboration has not come to fruition. it was disappointment and he let me know that so because of the void created by the united states of america, they turn to others out there to fill that void and if we can think of who is filling the void, the united states is not engaging, as china so they are turning to the east and engaging more with china in the united states of america and i think because we haven't

engaged like we should have with a number of key important nations they don't feel compelled to stand behind israel and that is where the failure of leadership is showing on the world stage right now. we need to engage more and not just take for granted some of these incredible opportunities with our arab friends and neighbors. >> i would echo senator ernst need for robust decisive american leadership has never been more clear. we had these two and a half years of the biden administration in 2021, 2022 we had ukraine. 2023 we had israel, are we going to face another massive crisis next year in international

affairs? one that brings to mind that one. there could be any number of others so we are approaching project 2025, our role is simply to show the clear policy differences emerging on these issues and make a case that leadership is going to be critical and hopefully we will be able to get behind a candidate that will demonstrate that should. >> we have time for two more questions. we'll head to the lady in the back, second question. >> thank you so much, very insightful. i come from an international organization that works in latin america. we are worried getting the

extent of influence countries in our region. how is the united states planning to engage the whole reached especially when president publicly expressed support for? >> i think that is the question and one too often ignored. we have seen iranian backed terrorist strike in latin america have seen a plot to strike in the united states including a plot in washington to assassinate then master to the united states, mollo. how many americans would have died there? it's one reason we have declared border security one of the seven key priorities because it's a

huge national security own ability and what we need to do is first get under control to prevent bad actors from creeping across the government will also see the security and regional like minded countries can collaborate pool resources and not on the southern command present us with placements on a piece of people where our adversaries are locating around the globe, if you look at top

and central america and influence of iran, russia and china, they are everywhere. we don't pay attention to that. this is where i will put on my armed services committee for bullies, that subcommittee has oversight operations command. these men and women are deployed all around the globe and work with local populations and create stabilities and this administration as we look at recruiting and retention challenges and funding challenges with a budget, we see the administration asking to draw down the number of people. we look at about 4000 troops these other guys and gals the blood everywhere around the

world they divert those forces that might cause us to engage conventional action. we would rather use our individual push back on those adversaries concentra america. >> your question? >> what do you think of the impact of the negative role are woke military has played in emboldening our enemies called muslim allies in particular to distance themselves from the current administration, even frustration? i'm going to jump on.

i think it contributes a number of different ways. we can look at this from all the angles. recruiting retention issue is most certainly woke does contribute a little but i want to give an inch of big priorities of this administration with our military and that was in electrification of non- tactical by 2035 so they want to put in place albert and as soon as the non-technical employees move on to the rest of the military. are you kidding me? electric vehicle for military, all transportation company commander in iraq, i can't imagine rolling a convoy to iraq asking excuse me, where is your

target station? it doesn't work and this is what america looks at mothers and fathers out there say there's no way i want my child to engage in this military with this ideology and then adversaries are looking at us and they are laughing. china laughing all the way to the bank because they are producing vehicles and the batteries for those liberals but they look at us and say look at them, they focus on electric vehicles, not ensuring they have the most lethal force in the face of the planet. my daughter is and i want to know we have a leader concerned about her welfare training and equipping her if she got forward from day she comes home safe but that's not what this administration is doing and you

better believe our adversaries are looking at it. [applause] >> we do have time for more questions. >> excuse me. a retired member of the u.s. diplomatic services. you all spoke about the money over the years is not a one-way street. ...

>> this is a partnership between our two countries. it has very real world benefits to the american people. you look at a system like iron dome which was originally exclusively israeli intellectual property supported obviously by the united states congress but in the recent modernizations of iron dome it's become joint intellectual property. and my personal favorite missile-defense system david's sling was a joint project from the beginning. so we're developing these things together. it means our militaries are very interoperable. they are trading on the same equipment and obviously we do a lot of massive training exercises with them, which to keep the american people safe.

and so i see this very much as a practical investment which is born significant profits for the american taxpayer. you can have your moral case for israel, but i generally try to refer to the purely practical and say that this is something that is usually in our best interest. and if we can't over the course of the next 25 years build that out, that partnership to become a regional partnership even better for both of our people. >> and i will just give a quick example on this as well. the systems that are developed and employed in israel, they are developed jointly with israelis and engineers are in the united states and defense contractors. and in my little tiny community back home in iowa, i i grew un a town of about 700 people, one of the ladies that i go to

church with, her son who graduated a number of years after me from the same high school, but he is a grown man now. he is an engineer and he actually is an engineer on the iron dome project. so there is far, far reaches across the united states and the number of people and type of people that are employed by these projects so i would concur with victoria, i think it's a practical as well. >> and has yielded benefits over the years and perhaps in the next couple of days and weeks we will be even more evident just how important how vital that cooperation and joint development is your we will go to the gentleman behind you and then over to your question. >> john dickson, global peace foundation. what drives me crazy, i was active with afghanistan and after that horrible withdrawal my colleague partner finally got

out at the last minute with his wife, sister-in-law and two voice. they stayed with me. he watches very carefully. he was an advisor to president gandhi and says americans to giving a taliban tens of millions of dollars of mine. i know we give money all over the place, people like us and especially i think in gaza even and humanitarian aid. we know all this money is fungible and it's not it doesn't help our status with these people. it empowers our enemies and nobody says even thank you. it will always be taken with resentment and doesn't make people like us more. but less. i can't understand why we continue to do it. and i don't quite understand dash i don't of all the numbers, i'm getting old but i know it's not money well spent. it's money would borrow from china to give and it's counterproductive and i think it

works always against us, is what it seems like to me. i wonder if anybody's watching that? >> i will address this, , becaue this is where i've been very critical of dollars that of gandhi usaid, and in no victoria just mentioned this. we've had discussions about this. and john, if you're followed some of my pushback in recent months, it is on the taxpayer dollars going to usaid, usaid didn't have enough people to do contracts to push dollars out for humanitarian aid in ukraine. so what did they do? they sent the money to the united nations. are you kidding me? we can track it if he goes to the united nations, and russia has decision-making authority over where it goes when it goes to the united nations. so i've been very critical of this, and it do believe that in some of these cases, some of the

countries like any case of ukraine and russia our european partners could better deliver on humanitarian aid than we can. and in the case of israel and gaza, maybe some of those arab nations can better deliver upon humanitarian aid. perhaps in egypt. egypt would just open the border to women and children, , all of them to come and other nations to support humanitarian needs. i think the united states of america, let's focus on what we do best. and that is developing the weapons needed. i say weapons not welfare. that's my catchphrase. let's put it on a bumper sticker. we can beat arsenal of democracy and we should be but we need to invest in our defense industrial base and we need to ramp up, make sure that we number one, we are strong in what we need for

our armed forces, and it worked to support our partners and allies as well. but we really need to scrutinize the humanitarian aid that's going overseas and make sure that our adversaries don't have access to it. >> i would just add to that that congressman roy and i get an op-ed in the "national review" at the end of july about the upheaval in the course of writing that looked into how much money has been funneled into particularly cows but also other palestinian entities. it's over a billion dollars. the old assumption sort of conventional wisdom is this would change hearts and minds,, that over time it would allow palestinians to build a society for themselves, that it up or interest in preserving fat than employing of israel. and we tested that hypothesis in the top administration when the

president directed the cutoff of all aid to the palestinians after mahmoud abbas distasteful 27 teen speech to the united nations general assembly in accordance with u.s. law of people engaged -- 2017 -- virulent anti-american rhetoric should i get taxpayer money. the assumption was that then this would cause tremendous unrest but we didn't get an massive spectacular terrorist attack like what we saw and october 7. and when the spigots were turned back on a sickly immunity by the biden administration and we've had this billion dollars float in followed by the hundred million announced by the president, some amount of the supplemental that they requested in the humanitarian pot of about $9 billion, somewhere between zero and 9 billion is supposed to go into gaza. this is just not only is a throwing good money after bad at a time of fiscal crisis but it's obviously counterproductive.

it led to a massive, horrible terrorist attacks acclaimed american lives. and we just can't continue to fund this. >> an excellent question. as you can see there are strongly held views on the panel about it and rightly so. i think you're the last question. >> thank you. just to bring attention back to the home for a little bit. i noticed in some polling results they came out over the weekend americans are really, really concerned that the increase in violence between hamas and israel with the current crisis of the southern border will lead to potential threats directly on, directly in america and on american soil. i'm wondering what kind of policies you all think the to be in place or what kind of discussion we should be having right now to make sure we keep the conflict contained a broad. >> obviously securing the southern border is key, whether it was the unrest in the middle

east for anything that you see coming from south central american. with so many foreign nations that are pouring across our southern border. this is been going on the entire time joe biden has been president. so not only do we need to secure the border but then we need to really address the policies that allowing people to stay in the united states and to enter freely. and our asylum laws, this got to change. they have got to change and where to figure out a way to stop people before they enter into the united states. again i think use diplomatic push with the number of the countries that are on the way into the united states working with their government as well will be key to this. i would say let's just replicate everything that president trump had done during his administration, remain in mexico policy, changing our asylum laws, whatever it might happened to be but we've got to enforce

our border security. we are not have a problem at the southern border now but they are also realizing they can come across our northern border. it's becoming more of a problem and it's because we have this wide open door policy that president biden has enabled that puts us in jeopardy here in the united states. >> i guess i would just add to the excellent point for many disturbing things about the pro-hamas demonstrations and we have all seen across the country, the blatant anti-semitism which i know will be addressed in the next panel, but also the numbers of people who are sympathetic to hamas and their sort of, their methods for want of a better word that are already present in our country. and are not shy. maybe the most disturbing was new york yesterday and the day before in which these groups came together and started attacking the police. now they're throwing eggs and

water bottles. when does it become worse than that? we have are concerned with securing the border of course. we've got to be concerned with what i would hear. the cbp been released about the ones they know that were encountered and are all from countries with potential exposure to terrorism. and that's just what we know. so i think we have to be enormously vigilant and concerned about, about what's here and what might already be planning, planning mischief. >> there's no question convalescent five years of an eventful. they have marked in many ways close cooperation between the united states and israel. we have covered a fair bit of background and brought into current circumstances. i have only three things left to do. first, with the help please let's think our panelists for fr the tremendous contribution and

the leadership on this issue. [applause] >> second, is preview the next panel which will resume after the break which is on enriching the u.s. alliance by combating anti-semitism which will be moderated by the inevitable ellie cohanim. and the last is to welcome you all to a 15 minute break, asking you to reconvene at 2:30. again, thank you all very much. [applause] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations]

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