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of the walls of congress, from the house and senate floors to congressional hearings, committee meetings. c-span gives you a front row seat onto how things are decided with no interruption and completely unfiltered. your unfiltered view of government. >> a very good monday morning, you can start calling in now. as you are calling it on this question of the biden administration handling of china, i want to show you a clip from last week, a hearing on worldwide threats america is facing. it was the director of national intelligence who was asked about the threats posed by china to the united states. people's republic of china increasingly challenging the u.s. economically, technologically, politically, and militarily, remains our
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unparalleled priority. chinese communist party under president xi jinping will continue levers to achieve xi's vision of making china a major power on the world stage. the ccp is convinced it can only fulfill xi's vision at the expense of u.s. power and influence, and it will use all government tools to get neighbors to acquiesce to preferences. last october, president xi secured his third five-year term as china's leader of the party congress, and as we meet today, chinese national legislature is in session formally appointing xi and confirming his choice to lead the prc's state council and leaders of military legislative and judicial branches. after decades of serving, he
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controls key leverage of power, significant influence over issues. he has surrounded himself with like-minded loyalists at the apex of the party standing committee. the highest decision-making body. during his third term, they will put together an attempt to press taiwan on unification, undercut u.s. influence which they perceive as a threat, drive wedges between washington and its allies and partners. you may have seen xi's recent criticism during his speech on monday is what he referred to as america's suppression of china, showing his long-standing disgust of u.s. goals and the belief that the u.s. wants to contain china. he speaks with direct criticism, more than we have seen to his date, showing growing presses and some -- pessimism about the worries about the trajectory of china's economic elements and
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indigenous technology and innovations, challenges he plans on the united states. he wants to message his populace and regional actors that the u.s. bears responsibility for any coming increase in tensions, despite public and directly getting political rhetoric, we prevent a spiraling of tensions and preserve stability in the relationship with the united states. host: that from thursday on capitol hill, a house hearing on the worldwide threats facing the united states, director of national intelligence there talking about xi jinping's gaining his third term as president. that is news from last week. three ways it played out, one from a domestic and american news source, one international, and then a chinese news source. this is the headline from cnbc last week, xi gains
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unprecedented third term as president thomas saying he consolidated his control of the ruling party by filling the highest circle of leadership with his loyalists. al jazeera, international news version on this story, xi bows -- vows to protect china economically and its security, the most powerful presence since mao zedong, saying economy and security are indivisible. we will take you to china daily, the english language version of the newspaper owned by the chinese communist party and by their propaganda ministry, one of the headlines, the rest of the globe looks to china for growth and stability, up from there to the lead story at the top of the page, new leadership navigates nation on the right course and advisors to pool
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their wisdom for national rejuvenation, sub headline, senior officials have strong expertise, rich experience at the local level according to analysts at the china daily. one more headline from the china daily, they did an entire half page on highlights of foreign congratulations, messages xi received on his election as chinese president. we will show you more of that, but we want to hear from you this morning. our question as we open what will be a weeklong discussion about china in our 8:00 a.m. our segment each day this week, from 8:00 a.m. to 9:00 a.m., focusing on china. the question we start with this morning, we want to know what you think of the biden administration's handling of china. if you approve, it is (202) 748-8000. if you disapprove, it is (202) 748-8001. the associated press asking this
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question among a series of questions of approval and disapproval ratings when it comes to president biden. 58% from a poll on february 16 through 20, 50 8% disapprove, tied with 58% who disapprove of the way president biden is handling immigration, higher than the 51% overall who disapprove of the way he handles foreign policy in general. that is from the associated press poll from last month. we want to hear from you. phone lines are open. approval, disapproval, whatever you want to choose. you can also text (202) 748-8003 . we will begin with jackie in virginia. good morning. your thoughts on how the biden administration is handling the u.s. relationship with china? caller: what do you mean
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handling? he is profiting. host: so you called in on the disapprove line? caller: i did. host: what specifically are you concerned about? is there a specific incident you want to talk about? caller: no, it is just in general. i think everybody can see that he is profiting. he is not handling. he is worsening. host: ok, that is jackie in virginia. this is rod in indiana. good morning. caller: good morning, john. host: go ahead, sir. caller: yeah, i disapprove, but i disapprove most things of the ndaa administration of the biden administration. -- i disapprove of most things from the biden administration. but he is being controlled pretty much, and china has roots
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so deep in this country. the other thing, a lot of that is due to c-span, the farmland that china has. with the united states. what is going on for the most part, all we can do is just toe for the best. just got off work about half an hour ago, just go to work and keep plugging away and hope for the best. host: where do you work overnight? what kind of work do you do overnight? caller: i am a machinist. host: what do you make? caller: car parts. mainly, i work making parts for transmissions for cars and trucks. host: when it comes to car parts and where we get our supplies for car parts or machinery in
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general -- caller: yes, a great amount of that comes from china. i mean, oddly enough, even a lot of junk steel will come from china. things like bearings they go in your real -- wheel. a barge full of bearings coming over. is first manufactured parts, china has a lot of companies in this country, too. just things like a company not too far away from me that makes the automobile windshields. write down from where i live, i have a paper company that a lot of people don't know about. host: you said a lot of people don't know about the paper company, but do you think the threat of the dependence on
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china for supply chain and for these raw materials, do you think that is at least being recognized these days? caller: sure. i think everyone realizes it, especially people who work in manufacturing at all. you have a economy -- dichotomy now. you see a lot of the talking heads that have never really worked a manual labor job. a lot of these people that went through college and never even worked a job in a restaurant or babysitting or anything like that, and that is what is really sad. the backbone of this country as the men and women that get up every day or night, go to the backbone of this country as the men and women that get up every day or night, go to work to keep making everything that keeps the world going. we're the ones that get the shaft because we are paying our taxes and we see all the people
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that are taking more and more money out of the system, constantly. and then you have got this administration here that, one of their big focuses is put more and more money into the oddball programs, the stuff that the average person that gets up every day and goes to work just shakes their head. but what can you do? i mean, the united states is still the greatest country to wake up in. that is what i think every day. no matter how bad it gets, i am waking up in the united states of america. host: thanks for the call from indiana, thanks for calling us before you head to bed after working overnight. this is holly in warren, michigan, on the line for those who say they approve of the way the biden administration has handled its relationship with china. caller: hello. host: go ahead. caller: hi, i wish people would realize this is not a political
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situation that we are in. we are in a global situation. this is a new world order, and bill gates is behind it, george soros. how come nobody ever talks about these kind of issues? host: a giant worldwide conspiracy theory, holly? that is what you want to talk about? caller: no, it is not a conspiracy theory. if you look up a lot of what is going on, this is a global agenda. it is a great reset. charles schwab has written a book about it, pretty much a -- he has been pretty much writing a playbook from since this has all started, and he is following his plan, just like agenda 21. host: right, that is holly in wish again -- in michigan. this is paulette in winston-salem, north carolina. go ahead. caller: hello. host: go ahead, paul it --pau
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lette. caller: hello. i disapprove of biden's job between china and the u.s. i am really disappointed in the way he is handling everything with them, everything from china making drugs, sending them through mexico to our young people, young, old. laced with fentanyl, and it is killing off our americans. and he is doing nothing about it. and with the crisis at the border, that should not be. also, them purchasing our land near our military bases.
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this is a crying shame. this should never be allowed to happen. host: this is fred from facebook this morning, asking, is the biden administration handling china or is china handling the biden administration? darren says disapprove, the biden administration lack of diplomatic prowess to broker peace deals. between iran and saudi arabia, following the abraham accords, the impotency of this foreign-policy policy has led to the afghanistan debacle and russian invasion of ukraine. joe biden's presidency will be written in the annals of time as perhaps the worse foreign policy regime in history. this one says many will try to pose as china experts in this matter. our current foreign policy, the -- the establishment has a view from 40,000 feet, we have a leader with 50 plus years experience in foreign affairs and you can trust he is acting on our behalf rather than his
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personal behalf -- you can trust he is acting on our behalf rather than his personal behalf. it is complicated. good morning. caller: yes, here's the deal. i approve of the way joe biden is handling stuff, because if you remember, when that iraqi war started, george bush -- i mean, bush went over and borrowed money for us to go over to iraq to fight. we did not have the money. now i don't know if we ever paid china back or what. but biden is trying to straighten up stuff with trump, the mess trump made in there, bush made in there. we did not have a dime to go over and fight iraq. and if it wasn't for china giving us the money to go over and fight, we supposed to get the money back from the iraqi oil situation. i do not know what happened to the money that iraq paid us back for the oil, but we owe china
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too much money to argue with them. just like the human being going to the bank and borrower -- borrowing money you got to pay , it back. and we have not paid china back yet. host: that was bill in west virginia. one of the folks who wrote in on facebook made reference to the deal between iran and saudi arabia that was brokered by china, the hill newspaper with a story on that, an agreement struck by iran and saudi arabia on friday to reestablish relations has shifted concerns back to the state of the u.s. role in the middle east, especially since the deal was brokered by washington's made -- main adversary china. there were four days of talks with security officials in beijing, easing tensions between middle east powers after seven years of hostilities. both iran and saudi arabia announced they will resume their diplomatic relations and open up emphases once again in the -- embassies once again in the
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respective nations within two months, according to that joint statement and china playing a key role in brokering that deal. another one of our callers from indiana was talking about the supply chain issues, raw material coming from china, the worldwide threat hearing last week held both in the house and the senate, more from that hearing with senator angus king, the independent from maine who was talking to the director of national intelligence admiral haynes about the supply chain issue. [video clip] >> china is on track to control 65% of the lithium-ion battery market, to dominate all parts of the supply chain, 45% of the worlds active pharmaceutical ingredients, and their global share across all manufacturing of solar panels is 80%, turning -- starting to go to 90%. this is important information for us in terms of informing us
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about the dangerous dependency we have developed in a lot of areas. semiconductors is one we have talked about. but it suggests to me that this issue of dependency is something that really has to have some serious policy examination. would you concur? >> yes, absolutely. i think one of the things we're really trying to expose here is the fact that it is not just simply about china trying to create indigenous supply chains but to actually control world -- local supply chains. >> that seems to be an elaborate policy, does it not? >> exactly. >> and that goes also about their actions in africa and south america where they are trying to corner the market on various commodities. >> and you can see it not only in their decisions about what they are purchasing and how they are managing it, but also the laws that they pass they give them the capability, for example, in rare elements to
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turn the dial on their export/import policy so they can create that pressure. >> do you think we learn from europe's dependency on russian gas, that this is a similar thing we need to address as a matter of policy? host: senator angus king and director of national intelligence avril haines. we get a hearing on capitol hill, ask you about the -- asking you about the biden administration's handling of china. if you approve, (202) 748-8000. if you disapprove, (202) 748-8001. more news on the international front when it comes to china's relations with other countries, this exclusive from reuters today. chinese president xi jinping plant to travel to russia to meet with vladimir putin as soon as next week. according to people familiar with the matter. which would be sooner than previously expected. plans for visit comes as china has been offering to broker a peace deal in ukraine, and -- an effort met with skepticism in the west given beijing cost -- beijing's o-matic support for
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russia. the regime visit had been agreed to but the kremlin chief gave no date for the visit. wall street journal reported last month that the visit to moscow could come in april or early may, but now seems like it could come as soon as next week. when it comes to china and russian relationships, the -- it is the editorial board of the washington post today on the issue of china possibly sending arms to russia, calling it off wally if they did. beijing's long-term interests depend on the west. here is how they end that editorial, moscow's disasters -- disasters -- disaster risk -- disasterous unprovoked division has exposed mr. putin's regime for what it is, to radical, correct -- corrupt, bogged down in a were within adversity with one third of its population and a 10th of its domestic product. did mr. xi imagine mr. putin would be a fermentable -- formidable counter rake as he
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regards to the overwhelming power of the united states? russia has become an albatross to china, doubling down by arming the kremlin's in up -- inept forces would only taint china's standing in the world. back to your phone calls. do you approve or disapprove of the biden administration's handling of china? terrel, owings will -- owings mills, maryland, good morning. caller: yes, hello. i agree with almost everything that joe biden is doing. he is building us up. you know, he has built nato up. i am comparing it, i worked 30 -- i was a steelworker for 30 years down at bethlehem steel. i remember when ronald reagan negotiated with the japanese, you know, with japanese steel. we wanted ronald reagan to invoke tariffs on the japanese so we could keep our jobs here in the united states, but he went along with the japanese and a lot of americans that -- got laid-off.
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ronald reagan, he had 3 million or 4 million immigrants coming into the country, he just waved it and just said they were legal. but don't nobody bring up all this stuff. but joe biden is doing an excellent job with china. he is not getting us into any trouble with china. richard nixon did deals with china. everybody did deals with china. china holds the world's economy in their hands. and we are second. so, his doing -- he is doing a good job. host: if the spy balloon issue, important, not important? how do you think that issue will be remembered? caller: the spy balloon thing, there was general jack king on another show that said we had spy balloon's when donald trump
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was in office. but she tried to whitewash it, and the general told her don't whitewash this, because donald trump, they did not say anything when donald trump had balloons flying into this country. so he shot down a balloon, what is a balloon? he protected us. donald trump did not protect us from the virus. donald trump led 6 million people die. he said to let people inject themselves with bleach, and and -- and disinfectant nobody said anything about it. host: that is terrel. owings mills, maryland. in california, henry is up early, modesto, california. caller: good morning. did i lose you? host: no, go ahead. caller: there is a lot of history here that people need to realize and they need to stop fighting against each other here in this country, because this is a very major situation that we are in with china. china is intentionally doing a lot of major, major moves in central america, south america, and with russia and all these
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. we have to definitely be grateful that we have president biden right now because of the experience he has. it will be slow going. as americans, we need to get ourselves back together and pull our heads out of you know what, because this stuff is going to come up upon us. it is like world war ii. everybody knew what was going on with the other countries. i won't mention all of them because i want to keep them short. -- it short, but everybody knew what was going on with all the other countries, but we took one way to stay away, stay out of it, but we have to come strong together right now. and joe biden is just about almost perfect to be there because of his experience and his attitude. i don't know, his temperament. he has got a lot on his plate he -- so we have to think about beyond joe biden. we have got to get our country together because china is not fooling with us.
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they want to start a new, global currency. it is not about a new world order, this is always a world order. there is always one little fish trying to the big fish, bigger fish, little fish. we have to get ourselves together as americans, that is important, and we are lucky to have joe biden. we need to get serious about this as americans or we're going to end up like the other big -- great powers, england, the dutch, you know. we have to take things seriously as opposed to just trying to be against somebody or another. host: that is henry in modesto, california. you talked about in that statement, china's influence in central america and south america. a headline on that front from fox news, trying to flex its -- china flexing its muscle and -- in latin america, the latest security challenge to the united states. they know in the last two decades china has ramped up its economic ties across latin america, china's rising influence in the region that has washington increasingly concerned, the growing threat china poses to the u.s. has moved ever forward, they say, in
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-- they write in the american consciousness, as defense officials and lawmakers monitor emerging trends from beijing's burgeoning relationships worldwide. china's quiet expansion in the southern hemisphere has increasingly caught the attention of u.s. defense officials and lawmakers, they note, including florida republican congresswoman maria elvira salazar, and growing -- who grew attention to the growing security threats emerging from latin america. that story from fox news. if you want to read more from it. this is bradley in north richland hills, texas. good morning. caller: good morning, c-span. i am calling in regards -- in -- on the disapproval line because, as far as china goes, their aggressiveness and unwillingness to cooperate on a -- on the covid inspections, they should be removed from the united nations and russia should be, too, because they war crimes -- because of the war crimes
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they have committed. there should be a naval blockade put in place, along with the sanctions, against russia. host: when you say war crimes, what do you mean, bradley? caller: the war within ukraine, the killing of innocent civilians. as far as russia goes. both countries should be removed from the united nations or they should not be allowed to have votes on the united nations. both china and russia. host: bradley in north richland -- richmond hills, texas. (202) 748-8000 if you approve of the biden administration's handling of china. (202) 748-8001 if you disapprove. jason, wake forest, north carolina. good morning. caller: good morning. i am not sure what there is to approve of. they own him. what kind of a question is this? do you approve of joe biden's handling of china? joe biden is china. he is not an american, he is a traitor.
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someone said a few minutes ago that -- who said donald trump killed 6 million people, this is -- and you just sat there. this is exactly what everyone in this country hates the media, because you just let people say things like that. do you know how embarrassing this is for the country to let him say that? host: that is jason -- jason in way force -- wake forest. next call is kathleen. good morning. caller: good morning. i go with biden and harris. they build the bridges and highways. they are fixing all the septic sewers that need fixing. they trying to pull the united states back together and not tear us apart. because if you don't live here, it is different than where anybody else live. host: what are your thoughts specifically on the u.s.-china relationship?
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caller: china relationship, i think is like the united states and russia. i think it is -- we have been dissuade. when they took roe v. wade, we have not been down this road. it is said that people have died -- it is sad that people have died because people don't believe covid is still here. host: that is kathleen in mississippi. on the issue of covid, covid and its origins came about that -- came up about that hearing last week with dni director, director of national intelligence. senator marco rubio asked her about it last wednesday. [video clip] >> the fbi has concluded what on the origins of covid? >> mr. vice chairman, as the committee knows, the fbi has long assessed, going back to the summer of 2021, that the origin
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of the pandemic was likely a lab incident in wuhan. >> director, i know there is a difference of opinion among the different agencies, i know energy and fbi has that assessment. what is preventing the other agencies from reaching the same assessment? is it basically the lack of a smoking gun? will we not be able to say that we believe that the lab origins is the likeliest outcome, unless somehow we can provide a smoking gun proof that that is what happened? >> thank you, sir. so you are right. basically, there is a broad consensus in the intelligence community that the outbreak is not the result of a bioweapon or genetic engineering. there isn't consensus on is -- what their -- there isn't consensus on is whether or not it is a lab leak, essentially as director wray indicated, or natural exposure to an infected animal. those are the two operating theories. what would change essentially
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elements, perspectives would be additional information, and we have been trying to collect additional information. i think you are right that china has not fully cooperated, and we do think that is a key, critical gap that would help us to understand what exactly happened. >> my time is up. mr. chairman, i would point out that it is true that the lab leak, we do not have a smoking gun, a guy calling another guy saying we had a lab leak, we also had a smoking gun that it was a naturally occurring event, which is the easiest to prove. come out with a press conference and show us the bad or whatever --the bat or whatever it is and show us that this is the one and this is the virus that came from that animal. host: that from last wednesday on capitol hill. this issue of covid and its origins, a lot more on that this morning on the "washington journal." 9:00 a.m. eastern, we will be joined by jimmy tobias, an independent reporter. his work has appeared in the nation and other news sites. this is his piece that got a lot of attention in january from the nation, unredacted nih emails
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show efforts to rule out the lab origin of covid in early 2020. top scientists told anthony chow -- anthony fauci they were concerned that sars-cov-2 appeared potentially engineered. we will talk about what happens next in those unredacted emails at 9:00 a.m. eastern with jimmy tobias. next, back to your phone calls as we asked about the biden administration's handling of china. do you approve? do you disapprove? if you approve, (202) 748-8000. if you disapprove, (202) 748-8001. it is after 7:30 on the east coast here. this is marked out on the west coast in oregon. good morning. caller: good morning. host: go ahead. caller: ok, hey, joe biden, he is a failure. all the callers calling in saying he has got experience, well, the one guy was talking about his experience and he has been wrong on every foreign
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policy there is, it is pretty obvious. let me tell you, everybody says we owe all this money to china, well, they owe us like $70 trillion for covid. we do not owe china a dime. host: ron in amsterdam, new york. good morning. caller: i do approve of what biden is doing. he has got south korea and japan holding a summit next week, i believe to start working closer together. he has got the submarine deal going with australia. they will be getting some nuclear submarines. he is trying to keep china in check, that is what i believe. and between china and russia coming closer, now we got italy, they want to join nato. so you got that happening.
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nato is going to get bigger. i think we are starting to pull, like they did before in world war ii, sides are starting to be drawn, i think. host: you say italy? -- did you say italy? i believe italy is already part of nato. caller: nato, well, i guess the new government is pro-nato, where the other government wasn't. host: gotcha. that is ron in amsterdam, new york. we have to mention the submarine issue that you bring up. certainly something we have talked about on this program before. i think we did a whole segment on a couple months ago. i believe i hosted that. the headline recently, biden to host australia and britain to reveal details of the submarine pact to counter china. that is waters. --reuters. president joe biden will meet the leaders in san diego to announce a way forward for australia to receive nuclear
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powered submarines in this biggest ever defense project, that is from last week, just a couple days ago. the three countries announced a so-called plan in 2021, efforts to counter china in the indo pacific region. there is headline therefrom reuters. this is teresa in birmingham, alabama. you are next. caller: you know, the whole thing with china, it started with nafta. the china problem isn't a -- is a problem the americans created with nafta, and they obviously didn't expect china to do what they did, which is grow their economy. now, they are in the competition with the u.s. now because the u.s. allow all these manufacturing jobs, these corporations, to go over there for people labor. now it has backfired. they got a problem now because now russia, china, and iran are
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banding together, and all these other countries are asking to join brics. and if u.s. blew up that pipeline and germany, that is really going to remove whatever credibility the united states has. so i think the american people need to start looking at nafta and what nafta not only did to the u.s., what it did to mexican citizens, it was a trade deal that didn't benefit the united states. host: this is ricky in muskegon, michigan. good morning. caller: joe biden doing a good job. where china, we don't know where this verse -- virus -- this virus probably did come from china, but it could have been an american who brought it over here to the united states. because they go back and forth. mike i said, joe biden -- like i
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said, joe biden is doing a good job, but they need to lose donald trump. donald trump needs to be lost. with rudy giuliani, because they were with china and putin. that is my comment. host: staying in michigan, battle creek, this is darrell. -- this is durell. caller: good morning. i am not happy with how he is handling china, and we just got a battery plant in marshall, which is next to battle creek, that the chinese are building with the americans. guess what is right next door in battle creek? the federal center, so they are less than 10 miles away from our federal center. thank you. host: this is roy in sun city, california. good morning. you are next. caller: good morning. i am wholeheartedly supportive of president biden.
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what we have to understand is that our system of capitalism, and it goes all the way back to nixon. china has one billion people, we we -- we have 330 million. so they have more labor and more everything. when we realize that we can sew shoes, cars, for that one billion people, we all ran over there to make some money. ok, so now we are paying the price. that is as simple as it is. they figured it out, and now we have to pay. host: we ask you about the biden administration's handling of china, asking if you approve or disapprove. go ahead and keep calling in. (202) 748-8000. if you appro

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