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honorable hakeem jeffries from the state of new york has received 210. the honorable patrick mchenry of state of north carolina has received six. all right. the house will come on to order. the house will come to order. honorable byron domedz of the state of florida has received two. honorable tom emmer of the state of minnesota has received one. lee zeldin of the state of new york has received four. honorable steven scalise of the state of louisiana has received eight. the honorable mike garcia of the state of california has received
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one. the honorable kevin mccarthy of california has received two. and honorable westerman, the whole name. pursuant to clause 12-a the chair declares the house in recess subject to the call of the chair.
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colleagues blame you. we could have a speaker right now. i think the world was on fire when we have $33 trillion with no plan to reduce spending. so maybe when the lobbyists and special interests don't have total control of the speaker of the house, they think the world this is working through our differences. we think jim jordan is an inexpirational candidate for house speaker. what do you want unless you want to suffer some consequence and ready to endure. >> the republican party failed the american people and delivered no wins in the first 9 1/2 months.
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the democrat senate and democrat white house was the debt ceiling. jim jordan represents a chance to put a fighter and leader on top of the republican conference instead of the special interests. reporter: you say they want to punish you. when i talk to them, they have more problems with jim jordan because of the strong-arm tactics and don't trust. how do you not -- [indiscernible] mr. gaetz: jim jordan doesn't go with strong-armed tactics and being blamed by outside groups that jim jordan has no control over. we want to meet with our colleagues and get to a comfort level with jim jordan. we, in january allowed the
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assent of kevin mccarthy. we had specific goals and willing to work with the team. our call with fellow republicans, help us elect a republican speaker. >> can anybody say strong-armed tactics. back in january it was vote after vote after vote. he holds one vote and tries to talk to these folks. i here a lot you have to support the team, you have to support the majority. what do the american people say. are you hearing what the american people saying? he is the second most popular republican. americans want jim jordan. a lot of the representatives don't care what the american people have to say about it. >> kevin mccarthy only lost
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votes for nine rounds and wasn't until the 12th of round. jim jordan has 2/3 of republicans. it is better to smear him than to tell your constituents that you don't want to vote for the person and continue to represent the special interests. >> heading the wrong way. >> he lost it for nine rounds and jim jordan was voted on three rounds. 14-20 members and folks want to report that jim jordan has no path to victory after two rounds, now three rounds. if we keep voting, he will be elected speaker. >> this is bigger than us. we are offering ourselves on this thing. that needs to be made clear. not about the 435 but about the
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eight of us saying this is what we'll do. [indiscernible question] >> work with the democrats? >> that is an option. hakeem jeffries is on record of the nine multiple elections -- why would he have that working in secret why would you disclose that to the public? that is to cast doubt. he rings the bell and everybody comes running. >> when patrick mchenry reid his own the other side of the chamber cheered roundly for that. he is doing a fine job as speaker pro tempore. >> speaker mchenry pro tempore deserves credit for resisting
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calls of how it is contemplated. he has earned our respect for abiding by the limitations and for that, he should be commended. >> what are the things you are willing to do? >> we are eager to better understand who are unwilling to vote for jim jordan. we violated no rules of the house. we violated no rules of the house republican conference -- >> kevin mccarthy voted for those rules. >> we have to get on the business of governing. we are open-minded. >> we stand behind what we did. we believe the republican conference needs to change and congress needs to change. if we are the reason that the conference can't come together
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and select a speaker designee. if you were removed from the conference, that would lose your committee assignments and if nominated by respective districts. we share the stated values and if they want to bring consequence individually and will help them. >> you mentioned they should continue to vote. >> need to keep voting. >> mr. nehls said his vote was going to vote for mr. trump. >> he isn't going to stand between them and jim jordan. thank you, guys. >> that's the goal of this. breaking news there on capitol
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hill, tim burchett, eli crane, bob good and gates. they would accept a creance surand accept removal from the conference and remove them from committees and will continue to support the republican party. nancy mace who voted to oust kevin mccarthy. >> the pressure on members for not voting the will of the people and voting their constituents, they are feeling that pressure as they should. people want jim jordan and that's who they want. some of our colleagues are putting personal politics ahead of the people and we have a huge
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opportunity to change the direction of our conference, change the direction of our country, leadership that is honest, trustworthy and works hard. at the very minimum that's what the american people want and need and deserve. >> you voted your conscience two weeks ago. maybe these members are voting their conscience. >> they have to square that away with their voters. >> i received four death threats another one two weeks before that. i have had my house vandalized two times in three years. the truck at home has been keyed. i have two family members this summer had their cars broken into. my 80-year-old parents have been threatened and siblings whose lives were threatened. this is something i have been
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dealing with three years. breaks my heart and some of my colleagues are going through this. i go through every single day. i have to carry a gun at home. i have to have security because of the death threats i have received. and reflection of the times tay we're in, i see it on both sides of the aisle and breaks my heart i just want a leader who is going to be honest and tell the truth and work hard for the pell of this country. >> the numbers only getting worse. people actually behind him? >> your constituents calling into your office, overwhelmingly positive and they have to square that away with their voters and constituents. i would like to see us come together and not leave this place until we elect a speaker.
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thank you so much. host: nancy mace talking to reporters there. she is in jim jordan's camp. they are headed behind closed doors at 1:00 p.m. eastern time calling it another family meeting. here are some other tweets from reporters on capitol hill. jake sherman, several house republicans tell us that they will vote in a closed meengs to whether jim jda remain the nominee. that could happen behind closed doors in about 40 minutes. and jordan doesn't answer if he will go another round. all he told reporters is we're heading for conference. let's go to capitol hill.
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>> if you will help the republican party -- >> we still need their votes. we have to stop focusing on the rear view mirror. you can lose four. i don't want to talk about retribution. i disagreed with the motion to vacate, 96% of our conference disagreed with the motion to vacate. 4% of this conference voted for chaos. 100% voted for this. we had a speaker. i think -- >> what is the path forward? they are saying it is retribution. what is the path forward. seems like the only solution is to face retribution. what is the path forward?
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>> respect the conference rules and spirit of precedent and go through the process and have a nominee and 221 republicans vote for that. you don't see that all over the country. there is a reason you have a majority. >> at this point -- [indiscernible] >> he was the first one that won the conference. when you lack -- this is what i said back in january when kevin mccarthy was having this problem. and i said to them, they're all my friends, when you do this, it could come a day that people on the other side of the spectrum do it to you and precisely what we have today. i don't think -- i didn't feel
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like i was -- >> we are going to leave pat fallon and hakeem jeffries holding a news conference on capitol hill. mr. jeffries: -- so we can stand by israel in its time of need. stand by ukraine in its time of need, stand by our allies throughout the world. provide humanitarian assistance to civilians in gaza who may be in harm's way. and reach a spending agreement so we can keep the government open, avoid a shutdown and continue to solve problems on behalf of every day americans. house democrats continue to make clear that we are willing to find a bipartisan path forward
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so we can reopen the house and solve problems for hardworking american taxpayers. it's time for traditional republicans to get off the sidelines, get in the arena and realize that the chaos, dysfunction and extremism has to end and the only way to do it is to figure out how to partner in a bipartisan fashion to reopen the house and govern in a reasonable, examine commonsense way. time for house republicans to embrace bipartisanship and abandon extremism once and for all. that is your only way out of the house republican chaos and
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dysfunction. embrace bipartisanship and abandon extremism. questions? reporter: thank you, mr. leader. president biden sent up this foreign aid package, how concerned are you moving that forward not because of aof a speaker but also given opposition for additional funding for ukraine and what kind of conversations are you trying to shore up support whenever this gets resolved. mr. jeffries: i am confident that the votes exist in combination between house republicans and house democrats to support national security package to meet the needs of the american people and the free world. we have to get the house reopened. it's my expectation that the senate will act on president
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biden's security package sooner than later. and lives will be jeopardized. this is a serious situation, which is why the chaos and dysfunction has to come an end. you have several extreme maga republicans on the other side of the aisle will say they will only ever vote for jim jordan. if that is, in fact the case, it is an an additional data point that there is only one way out, a bipartisan path forward to arrive at a reasonable arrangement to embrace common ground and common sense on behalf of the american people. reporter: the bipartisan path. some school of thought that
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mr. mchenry should try it out and put a resolution forward. do you think that's the message you should put forward. mr. jeffries: in the aftermath of the september 11 tragedy, this was put in place for designation for an active speaker pro tempore whose sole is responsibility was to organize the house in the context of a speaker election. that was done under a house republican majority with bipartisan votes on the democratic side of the aisle as well. and so it's clear that acting speaker pro tempore mchenry's authority is to preside over an election for a permit in the event speaker. the other alternative is for the house to act in a bipartisan way
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to elect a speaker pro tempore. that doesn't have to be patrick mchenry. there are many good men and women on the republican side of the aisle. i believe they are patriotic and care about america and care about our democracy and care about the communities that they represent, who would be reasonable individuals to consider. but there's going to have to be a move on the republican side of the aisle to make a decision to break with the extremists who are tearing the republican conference apart. it's a mess on the other side of the aisle. and the problem is the american people are paying the price. reporter: the house is dysfunctional -- mr. jeffries: the house republican conference is dysfunctional. house democratic caucus is
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unified. reporter: how does the dysfunction bode for passing appropriation bills, are you concerned about that? mr. jeffries: we need to reopen the house so we can do things like make sure there is child care funding for working class families, low-income families and reopen the house to ensure that the affordable broadband connectivity program that provides access to people across the country in urban america, rural america, small-town america, the middle of america, the heartland of america, in appalachia has access to affordable internet service. we need to reopen the house of representatives so we can provide additional disaster relief to americans across the country in blue states, purple states and red states whose
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lives have been devastated by extreme weather events. we need to reopen the house to solve problems for hard working american taxpayers. and house democrats are saying we are willing to do it in a bipartisan fashion. because clearly the house does not exist in the house republican conference alone to elect the speaker. house republicans rejected mccarthy. house republicans rejected scalise. house republicans rejected jordan. they have apparently rejected mchenry. this can only be done in a bipartisan fashion. and we're serious with partnering with house republicans in a reasonable way to do the business of the american people.
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[indiscernible] mr. jeffries: we have not discussed concessions because our view is that we want a partnership in the best interests of the american people. that simply requires the house to reopen and function in a bipartisan way so that bills that we know have support from republicans and democrats get up or down votes on the house floor and can't be blocked by a band of extremists on the hard right. that's all we want. that is a reasonable ask, can we govern in a bipartisan way to solve problems for the american people. it's not about the individual but the interests of every day americans and integrity of our institution which house republicans have broken at this moment. reporter: have you heard from republicans on this joint
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resolution or anything of the sort? do you need a guarantee they will bring up the house supplemental for a vote? >> common sense suggests to me if we are going to reopen the house it should be done the pressing people is -- and that would include the national security issues presented by president biden for congress' consideration so we can be there for israel and its right to defend itself against hamas' terror, for ukraine and the courageous struggle to defeat vladimir putin and russian aggression in the indo-pacific, for civilians in harm's way and other parts of the free world. important to reopen the house so
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that we can pass an end of year spending agreement that meet the needs of the american people consistent with the bipartisan fiscal responsibility act that was passed at the end of may and negotiated by house republicans with president biden, with more than 300 members of the congress supporting it in a bipartisan way. we are asking house republicans simply to do one thing with respect to avoiding a government shutdown and funding the government by the end of the year. stick to the agreement that you negotiated and supported as a majority at the end of may. these are commonsense things. and if there is an agreement to move forward consider these commonsense pieces of legislation, then i think there is a clear bipartisan path in order to reopen the house to
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solve problems for hard working american taxpayers. reporter: have you talked to republicans today? mr. jeffries: i have not. reporter: are you waiting for them to call you? mr. jeffries: there have been conversations member to member about coming to an enlightened agreement to reopen the house because our republican colleagues understand that they have to find a way to end the g.o.p. chai use and the dysfunction and extremism and end the house republican civil war. it is bad for the house republican conference and it is bad for the congress and country and communities that all of us took an oath to fiercely represent. reporter: when you say member to member, within the democrat
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caucus or democrats and republicans. mr. jeffries: democrats and republicans having conversation. i have not had any conversations with the other side of the aisle. a leader has to emerge in order for that to occur. reporter: at what point do you feel -- mr. jeffries: conversations have been ongoing and intensified throughout the week and i have been briefed on every single one of them. and it involved different parts of the house republican conference because as we can see on the house floor, there are different parts of the house republican conference who have rejected the extremism of jim jordan. and so conversations hopefully will intensify today, perhaps continue throughout the weekend
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and get us to a place where we can reopen the house no later than monday of next week. reporter: is it possible on monday? >> it's possible. host: you just heard him tell the american people that conversations have been happening behind the scenes republicans and democrats and those conversations are intensifying about some sort of bipartisan path forward. many of you may know congressman joyce, a republican has a resolution that would patrick mchenry temporary powers so they can move legislation to the floor.
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family meeting at 1:00 p.m. eastern time. we learned from reporters there is the possibility that congressman jim jordan just raled off his third round of voting for speaker, that republicans tell us athey will vote in the closed door meeting a to whether jordan should remain the party's nominee for speaker and the ohio reblican leaving the capitol today asked if he will go another round and did not answer only telling reporters we will report in conference. a republican from columbia,
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maryland. let's get your reaction? caller: very interesting. i think it's interesting that matt gaetz said he would be censored. that is quite a plan. i am very surprised to hear that and hakeem jeffries continues to talk about bipartisanship go for him and that doesn't make sense. if you want to have bipartisanship, they have to flip -- host: democrats have been united behind jeffries in opposing jim jordan as the nominee for speaker. as you heard him say, they want a consensus candidate. caller: i understand that. but i happen to like jim jordan. he is called an extremist, but i
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think he is puts the truth forward. and i like what he does. host: thanks for hanging on the line. a tweet after the vote was gaveled. jeffries 210. jordan, 194. 25 opposing him. that number has grown from 20 on tuesday, 22 on wednesday. today because there were absences, the magic number was 214, not 217, includes a quote there from the speaker pro tempore. a speaker has not elected. independent line. >> i could solve -- i have to answer to this whole problem,
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ok. trump that is responsible for all this turmoil in the house. and the only way i think that jordan can get the votes even though i'm not happy to see him be the house speaker, but i might change my mind if he comes out of this conference at 1:00 and tell the american people and say that i'm sorry that i misled in the voting that has been rigged. the election has been over and 7 million people voted over. no cheating going on. if he can admit it -- former president trump had brain washed
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jordan and mccarthy. and that's the problem. two days ago on abc news, the reporter asked jordan, do you still deny the election. he wouldn't answer the question and just walked right by. that republicans are seeing that. they want an honest man to be speaker. and only way that's going to happen if he apologizees for -- and distance from trump totally. host: kathy in toledo, ohio. >> i'm from ohio and jim jordan is not right for the united states. if republicans were smart they could vote him out because i think the democrats would come over to nominate a republican that picked somebody that was a
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moderate. host: who would that moderate be? >> i cannot come up with a name but there is a committee that works together to solve problems between democrats and republican. host: co-chair of the problem solvers' caucus is representative fitzpatrick from pennsylvania and he voted twice in the first two rounds of voting for jim jordan. he then flipped,ri fitzpatrick, republican of pennsylvanialipped today and voted foratrick mchenry, making him the first lawmaker to heir vote away on this round. and the ninth to vote against the ohio republican. sherman noting for you, in 20
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minutes republicans will go behind closed doors does jim jordan continue or not. caller from florida, republican. caller: i want to start off by saying, right now i am ashamed to call myself a republican. i feel that the party has launched away from the mainstream and people like jim jordan who is seen as the best choice tore the party. a lot of republicans are feeling otherwise and look for more moderate representation but i don't believe that's there. i'll have to look into the name you said but the republican party has become the party of trump and i feel like our values as a party have been tarnished by donald trump and his agenda. most republicans i would say they are not republicans but
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trumpist and cult of personality and seeing that now with the speaker race. with the speaker of the house being vacant, inaction in congress and seen inaction in congress long before that. no votes are being done and i believe the longest vacancy of the house is 18 days and two more days and this will make history if it has not already. so i'm quite displeased. host: a lot of history has been made in this congress and in this year. reporters noting that this is the 18th roll call vote held in by name for a speaker. 18th vote this year, alexander. caller: whole kevin mccarthy was a joke, too.
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host: dennis, independent in florida. caller: well i was a lifelong republican and went to independent. i vote for the best person. i like the republican party but unlike together. they seem more radical. i won't democratic because they gave away the country. the border is open. politics in this country is the worst situation i have seen. host: three new no votes d two jordan supporters did not ve who were thereesrday. representative -- the republicans were representatives hunt and van orden and not here
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toy for the vote. not as many new vote -- no vos. five to eight votes ith third round but three. two democrats were missingles. hakeem jeffries in each round of voting has secured all 212 of the democratic colleagues. that number was 210. portland, oregon, democratic caller. caller: you know, it was kind of laughable with the mccarthy thing. but it's really getting out of hand. these people need to figure it out. and i just hope like the american voters see this, that,
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you know, these people in the g.o.p., they say they care about people. if they cared about people 17 days ago they would have had a speaker. i hope that we can get a speaker. i hope something -- if mchenry -- i'm not sure his name. oklahoma. host: i think you are thinking of tom cole. caller: yeah. he seems to get along with everybody. i don't know -- i just hope and pray these people can figure this out. this is embarrassing. we are getting laughed at around the world. thank you for taking my call. host: swanson reports that 12:02, mccarthy loses and couple
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of hours after he gave his speech that that is a question im whether jordan should drop out. he called this quite a shift coming from the speaker. we'll go on to annabelle in sterling heights, michigan. caller: i have been watching the speaker votes i don't see a way out of this. and republicans are going to gain more votes. he keeps losing more and more, only candidate i could have possibly running or mccarthy and scalise. i don't see anyone else who can win this. at this point for me the best
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option is a consensus candidate and mchenry was setting precedent not going to run. huge mess and i don't see any way out of it. host: the hill newspaper mark month lynn airo is the third repuic today to flip their vo away from jordan and voting for former representative lee zeldin. john, democratic caller. caller: thanks for taking my call. i think what the democrats should do is make a deal with the moderates and asking them to come on over and put jeffries as the speaker, because the republicans, it's a clown show. you know, i realize nancy mace
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on the capitol steps complaining about the threats. all of this started under trump. trump is the reason for the position we are in right now. and i think the democrats should get together with five or six republicans and say, you know what, give them something. give them something to become speaker because the country has to move forward. we cannot stagnate and only way to do that is to put hakeem jeffries as the speaker. get some republicans to come on over and join them. host: nancy mace was on the capitol steps and one of the eight republicans who ousted kevin mccarthy from the speaker ship. the eight he written a letter to their colleagues, the eight who voted to oust mccarthy called for members to elect jim
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jordan defending their votes. and you heard from good, crane, gaetz and burchett. they can sense you are on the house floor and willing to do that in exchange for jim jordan as speaker. betty in alabama, independent. caller: first of all, jim jordan needs to step aside and doesn't appear to be getting any better. there are people who are just not going to vote for him or his policies. so he needs to step aside and there needs to be some other consensus. the gang of eight people, that's a joke. they are getting more attention now by this offer and there's
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plenty of people that are voting against jim jordan that aren't just wanting to punish them they are wanting to get their person elected. host: you have people like kay granger, chair of the appropriations committee that she is voting against jim jordan because of his record on the government shutdown and appropriations bills. caller: they have -- they shut the whole thing down by voting against mccarthy. eight people, he never should have been ousted. that is a clear majority and democrats need to put their big boy britches and take responsibility that they voted to oust him also. so they are partly to blame,
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too. plenty of blame to go around. i'm not embarrassed, a lot of people, a lot of personalities and we need to go on. host: those three additional no votes on the republican side camerom mark molinaro and flipped from being a jordan supporter voting for lee zeldin, member of congress from new york. and brian fitzp, a republican from pennsylvania. he flipped after two votes from jordan movin away from the ohio republican and vulnerable new jersey republican tim cane. all three republicans are in
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challenging districts, swing districts. we are going to listen to george santos talking to reporters. >> that's up to jim jordan and for time to. i think he should stay in and the conversation should be had. it comes down to the point of if we don't have a real family conversation, the tough ones we have at thanksgiving dinner. not shouting, no disrespect. ask questions that haven't been asked. thanks, guys. host: george santos on his way into the republican meeting and see if we hear from more of them as they make their way behind closed doors. karl from north carolina,
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democratic caller. caller: i don't think he cares about anything. they should go empowering -- [indiscernible] host: you are a little muffled and i'm going to leave it there. ralph norman. [indiscernible] mr. norman: we profoundly support mr. jordan. he has been true to his word.
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everyone's got an opinion but we are strongly voting for jordan and told him that on the floor. keep voting until we get there and let the american people, stand up and casting your vote. reporter: are you worried the math -- mr. norman: how many rounds. took 15 and before he got it. on the seventh or eighth vote. he came back up. [indiscernible question] >> unless it is done today. i hope they don't. [indiscernible question] host: you heard him repeat what we have heard from other conservatives today after this third round of voting failed
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which is keep going that kevin mccarthy won after 15 rounds and think that jim jordan should keep pushing and he will pick up as the voting continues round after round. let's get your reaction. ken in forth smith, arkansas, republican. should jim jordan keep pushing for more votes. caller: i think a certain number of reasonable rounds, i'm not sure it is 5 or 15. a caller said he should apologize and will vote for him. that's the radical mag as. i actually liked jordan until he became a member of this committee and he -- how is he
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going to lead the house? the house needs a rules change that after a number of votes, each side six members that are removed from the representatives and they can't be re-elected when you run with a smaller amount. companies do that. they eliminate the most radical poorest performer and maybe the house needs some such rule. host: happening during the vote, image captured by the associated ess. here is representative greg steu, republican of florida holding a resolioon the house floor to ren -eme speaker pro tempore. removing patrick mchenry as temporary speaker. you heard matt gaetz and bob good praising the role that
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patrick mchenry has been playing over the last 17 days but don't want to give him additional powers. any resolution to do so, they would vote against it. golden valley, arizona, republican. caller: hi, how are you? i think this whole thing has a good side and bad side. jordan did not get voted in. the good side is that until he is, they can't spend any more money and sick tired of our open borders and the money going out to ukraine and other countries. i think it's a goodwin for america because the -- as long as they cannot get more money, we are in a better place any day. thank you and god bless you.
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host: on a lighter ne here is an image put outlauren boebert a picture of her and jim jordan and she said i'll keep voting for jim jordan until yellow ties and blue shirt. she dressed in a similar fashion. new jersey, democratic caller. caller: what i would like to say, i don't understand why they think democrats should want to salvage them. we have never been helped by the republicans when we are short votes. why do they think we should do it? so many republicans believe that money is the problem. is the united states of america, we are the richest country in
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the world, why is it how much money is spent when it comes to something that is helpful and don't have a clue when it's not? they help the rich out, how about helping the middle class out? host: we are going to end the conversation for now. thank you for watching and having a conversation with us today. right now we'll bring you back to earlier in the day when the former speaker, kevin mccarthy, gave the nomination speech for representative jim jordan. house will come to order. nominations are now in order. the chair recognizes the gentleman from california, mr. mccarthy. mr. mccarthy: mr. speaker, i rise to nominate jim jordan for the speaker of the house.

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