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tv   Washington Journal Katherine Tully- Mc Manus  CSPAN  April 29, 2024 8:23pm-8:50pm EDT

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when republicans left there were questions about marjorie taylor greene and whether they would move on that motion to vacate. where are we as the house returns today? guest: we are still waiting. marjorie taylor greene file that weeks and weeks ago. the house has twice been on recess since then. she really can pull that trigger at any moment to try to move that forward. she has gained an ally in thomas massie. a couple others. which is very dangerous for speaker johnson. the idea of a growing coalition to remove him. that is how we got here in the first place with removal of kevin mccarthy. what i'm interested to see is if the anchor over the spending bills that johnson pushed through with democratic aid earlier this spring, if that anger will continue to foment
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and grow this marjorie taylor greene coalition with massey and others or if johnson can give any of these folks things they want to see if he can get them to back off. he was defiant when passing the spending bills, and then with the aid to ukraine and israel. he kind of said if this cost me my job, i will have done the job. that is what we are watching now. that defiance was adjusting thing to see from a very unexpected speaker. none of us at the beginning of this year thought we would see speaker mike johnson. host: a reminder of what the margins are in terms of votes in the house and what role democrats are likely to play if this motion to vacate comes up. guest: johnson's majority is tiny. minuscule. we are talking two to three votes. what is interesting, the larger
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marjorie taylor greene -- the longer marjorie taylor greene weights to activate this motion to vacate his there are a lot of vacancies in the house and almost all of them heavily favor republicans. some of those vacancies that are creating this tight margin, republicans are about the clawback a larger majority. not a significant majority, but more than a handful. it is less than a handful of republicans interested of removing the speaker. host: is that motivation for marjorie taylor greene to act sooner? guest: that is time pressure on her. as we get towards jude johnson for republican roster will be growing. unless we see major upsets. that throws a whole different calculation if democrats were to
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take a numerical majority. host: as we get to june, we just came off the foreign aid package that included the ukraine funding. what are considered to be must to do items or other legislative items that could further upset that certain block of the republican conference that is already upset with mike johnson? guest: up ahead, one of the deadlines is the may 10 deadline. they just released an agreement overnight. we do not have response to that. they will absolutely be talking about that as they hit in. that will start in the senate. what is interesting is what will get tacked onto that. there will not be that many major legislative vehicles for the end of the year. it is only the spring. it is election year. anything there voting on could
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become liabilities for their reelection and the election of either president joe biden or donald trump. hitching whatever they can onto this faa bill, those attachments , whether online child safety, whether expending the amount of flights out of dcaa in washington, those will be legislative fights on the sidelines of this big bill that could once again put speaker johnson in a pinch. host: may 10 is that deadline. staying on speaker johnson and the house. speaker johnson goes to columbia university. he said he will speak to the president about bringing the national guard. are we going to see some sort of legislative action that gets congress more involved here when it comes to campus student protests, free speech versus hate speech, all of these issues
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around these protests. guest: i think the easiest thing congress can do our resolutions, sent to the house, things in support of israel in opposition to anti-semitism. i do expect to see republicans leading the charge to condemn anti-semitic speech on college campuses. that is something that could come as soon as this week. i think substantive game changing legislation is going to be very hard to come by in the coming weeks and months. on this topic where there are divisions within jewish communities, divisions politically among democrats, and i think that will be more challenging. host: katherine tully-mcmanus
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with us until 8:30 eastern time. (202) 748-8001 four republicans, (202) 748-8000 democrats. independents, (202) 748-8002. perhaps the best in the business for telling you what is happening on capitol hill and why. a change of pace. this came out from politico last week. the top 10 list of the thirsty is members of congress. explain what we mean by that and who made some of the top 10? guest: thursday is a lighthearted term. we are talking folks. people talk about chuck schumer. the dangerous place in washington might be between schumer and a tv camera. we are talking to folks who you if they are so far on the periphery of an issue they would love to be front and center,
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they would love to be talking to you even more. they just want to have their hands in everything. on my side of things as a reporter, that means i am getting texts from their staff about every topic under the sun, even if it is not their state or their district, they have something to say about it. it is an interesting dynamic. there is the reason for me to quote this person in my story. they are so far removed. host: does this the first-ever list? guest: we have done it before. the funny thing is all press is good press. they take it with pride will some may cringe a little bit. part of the job of being in congress is reaching your constituents wherever you are. sometimes that is a media strategy. host: who are we talking about
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here? guest: the list is wide-ranging. the one my team interaction with is some freshman, jared moskowitz. he is a freshman, a democrat from florida. as a freshman you do not get a lot of big swings on serious legislation or lead any kind of coalition. that means his strategy has been to have a thought almost everything, even as he is brand-new for capitol hill. there is also the other side. desperate to think about, jared moskowitz. host: the next one down is mike lee. guest: mike lee has a reputation as a naysayer. whenever the senate is close to
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unanimous consent to speed things along everyone's eyes are turning to mike lee because he will slow it down. he will object, he will make sure he is on the floor when that unanimous consent comes through. he is less of a spotlight media seeker, but definitely someone all has turned to use of the -- maybe someone might come across the finish line. host: a head scratcher for me on the list. former congressman george santos is still one? guest: absolutely. this weekend he was rating reporters outfits on twitter. he just hung up his hat to not continue his reelection bid. can you call reelection when you have been removed? he is someone who is committed to keeping his voice in the mix
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even when his colleagues said we are not interested in your voice and having you here. host: for the artistic representations of these members and the fullest, politico.com. there is the artistic representation of senator john fetterman. let me get some calls while we have you. 15 minutes left with katherine tully-mcmanus. this is harry. good morning. caller: good morning. host: what is your question? caller: my question is speaker johnson is right -- refusing to give support ukraine. ukraine is a corrupted country. [indiscernible] i think that is true. host: when it came to ukraine
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aid, what assurances are in this legislation that money will not be wasted, abused? are there more efforts to track u.s. dollars going toward you? guest: there has been a huge motivation, especially many of the more trump aligned republicans did not want this aid to ukraine. they are ready to let ukraine stand on its own feet and see what happens with russia. the folks who are interested in continuing to send a, especially republicans are looking for more guardrails on the aid. there is not huge evidence of this aid being funneling other places like we have seen in other conflict zones but it is
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possible. something that was emphasized among republicans when they were considering that legislation was that so much of this most recent round of funding was going to the u.s. to reinvigorate and refill our stockpile of machinery, weapons, aviation because we have been sending so much ukraine already. this might be a boat with shiny stuff but a refill on the u.s. end of thing. host: an update on the acp extension, is that the affordable connectivity program? guest: i am not sure where that stands. i will say that programs like that, we are looking at at this
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point those being tacked on to other things. i think it might be a little bit unlikely at this point for that to move as a standalone. you are someone who is following that closely, be looking for that to be added to other big legislation moving forward. host: that story from politico, millions of americans could use internet aid months before the 2024 election going into the affordable connectivity program that helps 22 million households pay their internet bill. politico.com for that story. this is erica north palm beach party. -- in north palm beach florida -- this is eric in north palm beach florida. caller: i will try to stick to your topic about -- on aid the
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united states is supporting, particularly the israel and palestinian mass, let's see. in the protest you are talking about, also. just because you are questioning the jewish or the israeli positions, i do not think you can label those genitive protests as anti-semitic. then you are talking about endorsing israel. i don't understand and maybe you can elaborate how this may come in to the context of congress, how israel can be 100% supported when they are supporting land designated for the palestinians and are opposed to ongoing solutions and resolutions both
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by the fully visions of a two state solution. if there is new programming about how the context of the united nations has dealt with recommendations, that would be refreshing. host: you're asking about the debate among members when it comes to israel and how the human factors into this? guest: absolutely. i think that discussion of whether criticism of the government of israel, criticism of benjamin netanyahu and his government's policies is anti-semitism is one of these hot button and emotional debates, running -- happening in campus encampments and on capitol hill. there is division within the democratic party between members who are full throated in support of israel no matter what and
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members are really seeking nuance and seeking. -- bringing deep criticism for the way that benjamin netanyahu has conducted these assaults on hamas and -- in the palestinian territories. host: going back to ukraine funding, i saw this headline today. "republican introduces legislation to prohibit the waiving of foreign flags." this coming after the funding was eventually passed, foreign aid funding. some democratic members waiving ukrainian flags on the poor of the house. guest: that made some members really uncomfortable and they
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did not like the optics of american lawmakers on the floor of the house of representatives waiving a different country's flag. there have been calls of disloyalty. i think that is overblown. what i do think, those critical members are conscious of, how tides can turn. host: we are showing viewers of the images of members waving flags. guest: tides can turn. who knows who may lead ukraine in the coming decades. to have that kind of show of support legislatively is different than those images of waving that flag in the seat of the united states legislature. it is making people uncomfortable. folks have called for censure
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and ethics inquiries. it was dozens of democrats so i do not expect broad punishment. there collects on the other side of the aisle had some condemnation of that behavior. they were handed out by members themselves, so this was not any kind of seating by any outside organization. host: this push for banning that congresswoman come the congresswoman from florida, who brought this legislation. guest: that would require a change to the house rules similar to other decorum regulations. if you're not the person speaker you cannot have a poster. you cannot have and i disagree with him poster, similar to the
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dress code and things like that that would require changing the house rules, which we have seen in the past many times. i'm interesting to see if -- i'm interested to see if this is something where speaker mike johnson bites. host: we showed that video of thomas massie. he took the video of members of congress waving flags. members of congress are not supposed to take video when there on the floor of the south -- when there on the floor. he says the house sergeant of arms threaten to find him and it was speaker johnson who stepped in to say we do not agree with that assessment of the sergeant of arms and there will not be a fine here. guest: this is an interesting dynamic where sometimes the
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sergeant at arms is working at the behest of leadership. we saw that with the enforcement of metal detectors and things like that. sometimes they are making a call on their own and maybe not involving political leadership at all. i talked with multiple staff last week about this. there assessment was there's not a lot of evidence of these tight shot sophie's. they are also not allowed. it was a sweeping video and pay and panned the entire chamber. the staff i talked to said you could see why the sergeant of arms -- a little anxious about showing the security at exits and things like that. i do not like to talk about capital security because i'm working in there and i would
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like to stay safe. it was interesting to see the sergeant of arms trying to levy the $500 fine against massey and then to have the speaker say hold on, no. especially when both of those tweets were dispersing mike johnson directly. that is what this tweets were about. that was a colleague attacking him. he said you have to let this one go. host: democrats are celebrating johnson's "total capitulation with no victory for securing our border." a caller for michigan has been waiting. what is your question? caller: good morning. i would more like to make a statement instead of asking the question. how come we do not get better
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information from the news reporters and stuff like that. it seems like everything is slanted against one side and the other side and then the other side so it does not fix anything. that makes it not worth even having a government to begin with which is really nerve-racking. out here in the real world we are just working and doing our own thing trying to pay bills. this doesn't make sense to me why it is happening. host: in defense of congressional reporters? guest: i am the leading of one of the standard committees of correspondence on capitol hill and we credential a wide range of outlets, some with ideological viewpoints and some
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without. i would say the majority without. we do not exclude those with ideological viewpoints. i would say we are trying to get to the truth, we are trying to get the facts. we are in direct communication with lawmakers and staff and we are trying to convey not what is happening on capitol hill but why in the dynamics and power and pressures at play. what happens on capitol hill can be opaque and confusing if you are not a full-time government expert in trying to break down those complicated, whether it is procedural dynamics or interpersonal dynamics. why these democrats hate each other, why republicans fighting each other. is what we are trying to break down and provide the american people. host: we appreciate you and your
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colleagues come on because allowing people not just to read the story, but then to interact with reporters and ask questions and make it part of that breaking down those barriers. thank you for coming on and taking questions. guest: i do love a c-span caller. host: what else are you watching for this week? guest: i am looking at the dynamics within each of the caucus. it sounds crazy to say the final stretch of this congress, but as we stared down the barrel of the 2024 election, we have not been in session during these encampments propping up across the country. now that is in so many more members districts. i think we'll see a lot of response to that with multiple perspectives.
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the criticism of the state of israel and anti-semitism and those conversations will be hot and challenging on capitol hill. host: katherine tully-mcmanus. congress reporter with politico. >> c-span's washington journal. our live form involving you in politics and public policy from washington, d.c. and across the country. tuesday morning we talk about the history of student activism in the u.s. with history professor angus johnson. and then we will discuss addiction in the u.s. and policy approaches to address the public health issue. washington journal. join the conversation tuesday morning 7:00 eastern on c-span, c-span now, or c-span.

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