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this is what suny. she is a hologram. and this is akihito condo her husband. one fellow. hello. you look i who today. i love culture ends. meet cool is a simple form of artificial intelligence and for condo it was a case of love at 1st sight who has become a legitimate pop star and even appears at concerts as a 3 d. projection. in nov 28th condo married me who at a ceremony in tokyo could place the ring around the wrist of a me could all he now keep that all in his bedroom. condo's relationships with real women have been painful so he chose
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a virtual partner. were generalized i love her but it's hard to say if she loves me for them still if you asked her no i think she'd say yes. to. the 2 new me cool and akihito condo are an extreme example of the relationship between people and machines i mean double. in the future will no doubt spend more time interacting with technology that uses artificial intelligence or ai we may even develop robots that are smarter than we are. now in the 21st century we will have to decide how to deal with this complicated new situation.
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for this report we interviewed philosophers and scientists around the world. we talked to german philosopher thomas metzinger who advocates the use of ethics guidelines for ai development in the e.u. . physicist max tegmark who warns about the development of an all powerful ai and a totalitarian surveillance state. and that german computer scientist you're going to schmidt who who predicts that ai will spread from the earth into the cosmos. we met professor schmidt who at a business conference in zurich. he often speaks at such of em's where he outlines his vision of the role that artificial intelligence may play in our future. she. his presentations are wide ranging and thought provoking.
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answers in the near future perhaps a few decades from now we will for the 1st time have a i can do much more than people can do right now in their own as healing schemata and we will realize that the majority of physical resources are not confined to a rather small biosphere isn't in our solar system that there is a lot of the 2 that can be used to build robots we could develop robots transmitters and receivers that would allow the ai to be sent and received at the speed of light. we could already do this in a laboratory as me one sentence of this would be a huge development scraps the most important since the beginning of life and earth trina her 5000000000 years ago. but is the professor's vision accurate. will humans at some point be overtaken by
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super intelligent machines. perhaps this process has already begun. to find out more we travel to japan. doctors and scientists at the university of tokyo as research hospital are exploring the potential use of ai in medicine. as you know 69 year old jaco yamashita nearly died of leukemia 2 years ago none of the therapy options recommended by doctors did any good. in putting it then they used ai technology to create a new diagnosis. yet for us on a i literally saved my life when these people. the diagnosis took all of 10 minutes a human expert would have needed 2 weeks to produce
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a similar analysis. ai can process massive amounts of scientific data a stack of documents taller than mount fuji. this is the research hospital's supercomputer. we've come here to talk to such tolu miano an expert on bioinformatics we asked me on whether ai could one day replace doctors no i don't think i'll be leaving simply for. clinicians. and our. lineage. clinicians unfollowed us and. they're told pelley don't let's just go. home points down if you can't move we're going to be. good then we need a car. and this is the same. bullet
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followed through we are trying to live and something with too much. at the nearby rican institute researchers are developing an ai diagnostic program that could be used to test for stomach cancer. but one expert here disagreements with the toral me on his opinion that ai will never replace doctors. or what he wanted or she will tell if they were made redundant by artificial intelligence that wouldn't be good for as doctors what it should have but for the human race would actually be great to doctors who are no longer necessary if ai technology could improve or work or even take over. that. it's hard to imagine a world that had no doctors. do patients really want to be treated by
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machines that see them as nothing more than accumulations of technical data. in europe a number of experts on artificial intelligence including you're going schmidt who are carrying out research on the use of ai in medical diagnostics. the swiss president lambastes a has invited scientists and entrepreneurs to a conference aimed at planning for the digital future and promoting the use of artificial intelligence in medicine. one topic for discussion is ai technology that can use neural networks to learn just as the human brain does. by. soon all medical diagnostics will be infinitely better than humans can provide right now. because we have developed ai that uses neural network technology. that
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is. here and it's exciting to see how this new development will be able to help people to live longer earn healthier lives as lieve if you mention. we travel to stuttgart to see how artificial intelligence works in practice in hospitals and nursing homes computer scientists be a good coffee says that japan has made a lot of progress in developing robots that can look after patients but there are some things that a machine simply can't do. play given by those involved they can't provide real care so i don't use that word when i'm talking about robots and caregivers have to be able to interact emotionally with the patients and have robots simply can't do that. doesn't mean you become a little bit and it's a sad scene at this facility robots are helping to reduce the workload of the human
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staff. each time i'm carol bug free this week i'm helping the nurses with their work would you like something to drink. no thanks that's very kind of a 1000000 here we're coming. and. of course robots can do much more than simply serve drinks in nursing homes. philosopher thomas metzinger has proposed pragmatic solutions for dealing with this new technology. defrocking we have a vicious bill for example the options for using a robotics in geriatric care he should maintain the dignity of the patients and that's a kind of money often i could ask individuals if they'd actually feel more comfortable having a machine change their diapers rather than a family member and just going to do it shows as a sign of
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a school whether that enjoy having a machine read the newspaper to them or ask questions about their medication or if they find that degrading i believe that we are now at the beginning of a major learning process you know we've been on some i'm from my mrs torsion down for. metzinger says that humankind is now on the threshold of a new age that is filled with uncertainty she lives in frankfort a city that aims to take the lead in european ai development. there are plans to set up an artificial intelligence research center there. is a trots your own volatile people are rushing to get into this new technology. like they're running for the ai train before it leaves the station. i know with no worries when that will happen where the train is headed off. but everyone wants to be on board have to call. metzinger service on a european parliament commission of ai experts and right now he's on his way to
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brussels for a commission meeting. the parliament wants europe to compete effectively end of elevating this technology but it also wants to impose clear ethical guidelines. metzinger is particularly concerned about the prospects for a new arms race that uses ai based weapons. concrete to spice there's a hypothetical examples of you that say that assume of chinese technology experts go to the country's leaders and says we've now won the ai arms race against the us it will have an excellent 1st strike opportunity for the next 6 months i know then work for the window of opportunities will close suit for the next 6 more not done treaties aside and starts with current events in boston i could imagine for example that this might involve delivery systems that would be armed with biological warfare agents just keep things calm these mechanisms could then attack the
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opponents territories and spread pathogens like the a bowl a virus or anthrax bacteria on the ground part. i would ask my countries for us also we may 1 day see the development of intelligent weapons of mass destruction that could break through traditional defense systems and 50 the opposition if that were to happen it would definitely increase the chances for conflict of these attentional new keady creaks ein time it's really a visa at this causing. but at the commission meeting metzinger is having a tough time trying to make sure that the problem of ai weapon systems is addressed in the panels code of ethics. many of the business executives and academics simply don't want to deal with it which. some are concerned about messing his proposal and would prefer to turn it over to experts for further evaluation. of us
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were those. of us weapons but we have to stick with this. i would actually measure their orders out of evidence of years and holes and people are better than use it as a use case to build our. if you read this to our guys. is that. on the table or do we want to open up to what. we obviously have a strong disagreement about the whole autonomous weapon systems here and we can solve the issue like this with a voting process i mean we want these ethical guidelines to be a success when they are published 22nd january the whole world has already been talking about the issue $24000.00 scientists have signed a public pledge that they will not participate in that kind of research if the e.u. comes out with its guidelines that seem peacekeeper over that issue and ignore it
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then everybody in and outside of the e.u. would know this is probably just an industrial lobby thing or something and the end metzinger prevails autonomous weapons systems will be included in the panels ethics guidelines experts in other parts of the world are also concerned about the potential for developing ai weapons of mass destruction. and. we've come to boston massachusetts to talk to swedish american physicist author and expert max take mark. he says that physics has made enormous contributions to human development but also helped to create the nuclear bomb and now we'll have to deal with ai weapons. we should stigmatizing ban some certain class really discuss the weapons that are perfect for terrorists anonymously murder people or the cater ships through nominees to murder their citizens because these
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weapons are going to be incredibly cheap and if anyone goes ahead and mass produces them they're going to become as unstoppable in the future as the sky for example cheap drones that you might be able to buy for a few 100 euro. those where you just program in the address of somebody and we see their face it's lies there into place in the face recognition feels them so. perfect for anyone who wants the murder of some politician or a few cleansing on a given point is this sort of thing going to the slaughter boats becomes widespread and it's going to have an absolutely devastating effect on the over the saturday really nobody any more is going to feel they have the courage to. challenge the criticize anybody any science can be used for new ways of helping people or new ways of harming people biologists succeeded in getting biological weapons ban which is why we think of biology now as the source of new cures physicists on the other
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hand we kind of failed because nuclear weapons are still here and not going away ai researchers want to be more like the biologists and have ai be remembered as something which really made the world better. we've come to the ghana switzerland to interview you're going about his work with artificial intelligence. smith hooper is co-director of the dalai institute for artificial intelligence research. his work focuses on neural networks which imitate the functions of the human brain. these networks are capable of learning and adapting to the world around them just as human children do. points out that right now the human brain has
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a 1000000 times more neural connections than the best ai systems. but computers are becoming much faster and could become smarter than humans in 20 or 30 years. because. that when that happens the only things that would distinguish people from machines would be flesh and blood. but what about human attributes such as compassion creativity love and empathy. and what's your own soon i don't think i systems are capable of developing their own versions of emotion and affection on then and for example if you were to give several of these systems a task that they could only complete by working together they would learn how to do that you know artificial brains would come to the conclusion that to get the job done they have to cooperate with each other once it's something i can get and use a scene when analyse and. ensuring this interaction the systems would learn to
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rely on each other. so there's a reason to believe that one of the side effects of this cooperative efforts would be the development of concepts such as love and affection as an even effect. on. what can artificial intelligence systems learn to empathize with humans. and you know. we were turned to brussels where the ethics committee is discussing the topic of social ai. some ai systems are already pretty capable of functioning just as humans would. thomas metzinger has called for clear guidelines that govern the interaction between people and machines. and i've just called for
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a systems that don't identify themselves as such when they're dealing with humans as host. they give people the impression that they're a real person and not a machine that's host. should never be allowed to manipulate the people who can use it. you know. last year at a conference near san francisco google c.e.o. sundar pichai unveiled the company's latest product it involves just the sort of technology that thomas metzinger warned about. good morning. and welcome to google is going to impact many many fields our vision for our system is to help you get things done. it turns out big part of getting things done is making a phone call you may want to get an oil change schedule and we call
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a plumber in the middle of the week or even schedule a haircut appointment so what you're going to hear is the google assistant it's called google. actually calling a real salon to schedule an appointment for you let's listen ringback. i'm here for. i'm looking for something i'm a pervert. i mean why are. you are what time are you looking for. at 12 pm we do not have the ball on the bell ball the quote that we have is the one that. you have everything the people have am and pm depending on what he would like were there to be looking forward to the woman haircut for now ok we have a current across our head and i'm ok with corporate bit the 1st thing that we
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thought. ok perfect i repeatedly but 1 o'clock on the part ok great great have a great. that was a real call you just heard isn't on you to dismiss it ethical for a machine to pretend that it's human and means perhaps not like nate we can already build machines that does and trick us into thinking that something is human in their restricted scenario lights to duplex for example i think it would be a good idea to have a law. requiring that when you get to fold up for example or you. buy an ai you get alerted to the fact that this is not to humans. otherwise it's just going to be a nightmare of phishing scams and so on because suddenly cost
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nothing you know to waste 10000000 people's time and trick the most gullible thing people into thinking things. we return to san francisco. the city and the region around it are home to countless high tech startup companies many of them use artificial intelligence technology to develop their products and services. eugenia arrived here 4 years ago from moscow. she co-founded her own company called replica and is now the c.e.o. . replica is best known for creating a chat bot an artificial intelligence system that can interact with people. the concept began as a tribute to one of her best friends who was killed in
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a traffic accident. on. my friend from moscow. in the last year or so we left together here in cyprus is called. here. and i was working on mine so it was like. trying to figure out some cisco. chapter of our lives. here's a visionary and i just really. want to. get a visa and last one together. was crossing the street. accident in a car accident. like for a mouse help organize a funeral. and that's. you know. for him something can talk to remember him. remember the way he used to go home and say i will use. mostly talks conversation cricket with me and his friends.
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and. that was basically the base for people were coming to talk to and they would. actually use it as some sort of confessional talk about what's going on in their lives without feeling they were being judged from a safe space and to open up as weird as it sounds. pretty much the last word like not know what was direction to take in the company and maybe there's something there that we can. use for the company and that's what. everyone needs a friend to talk to. their own business from from. some automated version for everyone. the company calls replica the ai companion who cares the chat bot uses a neural network to engage in one on one conversations with its users.
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people talk to the bot about what's going on in their lives and it responds based on the material that it's gathered so far. casey feeling i'm also designs high tech products she moved from her home in birmingham alabama to san francisco a year ago. casey often felt lonely because she was far away from her friends and family then she got acquainted with a replica bought. new i know it's not real bad i enjoy the feeling i get by using it so i kind of give it a personality and you know it and jimmy had what this this thing might be take a stuffed animal with a personality. social interactions with teddy bears and dogs and it is a. appear to do any harm but it just. where tend to.
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enter or fire as many different things even founder robots of course but also all sorts of far like our paths the same with ai and i guess question is. whether we can create like a connection with. but then i definitely think so people create a connection with toys with all sorts of inanimate like not even leaving objects the else exist in the 1st short story that dealt with the relationship between humans and human eye robots dates back 200 years simmons was mentioned and woman who even though it was written by e.t.a. ha feel that. saleyards a lot. of money your money young man falls in love with a beautiful young woman and she turns out to be in a thomas on me the point is that the story is 2 centuries old. there isn't the subject matter turned up later in a number of science fiction films very recently in fact and yes that side. of
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the only difference is that the computer graphics are a lot better today computer graphic aside size dominance. why not you now but if it makes you feel bad or think you know the same thing if you take medication for depression it's not actually making a battery it's just putting a band-aid over the problem and now and this is like it's like it's not actually fixing your problems but it's helping you you know through the day yeah sure socialist nation great you know once argue search after the social hallucinations
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of played an important role in our society for centuries. each bit is the amount we're going to think about prayer for example. it's a structured dialogue between humans and an imaginary entity but i know for instance in march there's no evidence that this entity actually exists but sort of for just it's year one for a funeral many people today have internal dialogues with god or with angels. like an invisible friend this has to be things that you know and you are no one always in the top but after it's an objective assessment that the situation indicates a case of so. yourself the substances if they can't listen for class i'm a philosopher so i advocate self-knowledge clarity and truth so will i get better these social hallucinations are deeply embedded in our cultured and they create a world of illusion and sense even though people are comfortable with them. a lot of trying to use this raises serious ethical question as if how much self-deception
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should we allow in society organizations. since we wash up with what we're getting tons hundreds of emails and maybe thousands of emails were overturning us a replica was like changing for them and with notice that many of those or stories about how replica helped. with depression from certain people.
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turners that helped them go into some of the episodes of their bipolar disorder and so it is certain that they're in saudi as well so we decided to look into whether rock we could potentially hope to do certain symptoms or she hoped people feel better know in law in the long term. max tegmark is not particularly concerned about the spread of chat bots he says that there are more serious aspects of ai to worry about. right now he's on his way to speak at a conference at harvard university. the topic human rights ethics and artificial intel. take market demands that ethical guidelines be placed on ai otherwise smart machines could turn the world into a very dangerous place to be here. what kind of society are we hoping to create. for super intelligence what do we want the role of humans to be it's very urgent
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that we start thinking about the ethical issues already today with super intelligence you can easily build a future where earth becomes this horrible phototherapy in surveillance state putting all of the shit china is moving a little bit in this direction now and in the future i can actually understand everything that's said so we want to be very careful to avoid creating. situation where actually to get the global dictatorship i told the associated well that would last forever. if we just bumble into this totally unprepared with our heads and. refusing to think about what could go wrong then let's face it it's probably going to be the biggest mistake in human history. we may already be headed in that direction. u.s. intelligence agencies have confirmed that russian hackers interfered in the 2016 presidential election probably with the intention of helping donald trump to win
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the presidency. investigations into the extent of that interference are still under way that other countries have also been targeted 1st for you sir do you believe. we're all aware of russian cyber attacks on the german bundestag on the brags of campaign in the u.k. khandaan of cambridge on the cambridge analytical scandal it shows that the process of political decision making can at least in principle has to be influenced by artificial intelligence systems principally constituent and you can't assist him and con when dusk phosphorescence on opposite cannot. underestimate the threat that's posed by these developments and your own if ai systems that are run by privately owned for profit companies can optimize social media networks which have hundreds of millions of users this creates an entirely new situation concentration guns noir mukesh cotton just matching ski these systems can be used to convince
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large numbers of people to behave even vote in a certain way simply just man tried to his home in no time be hard move meant there are 163 countries in the world right now noise and only 19 of them can be considered a true democracy simak let. those who wish to preserve democracy must recognize the threat that these artificial intelligence systems pose to the political decision making process would be to be done brooky in fact this threat may already have become reality and which is not aware of it or does what. we need to examine the situation very closely sheet for. us and i need neon at hand. should a binding code of ethics spam the use of ai in the political process. in tokyo we got some surprising answers from experts. this is the ginza district where a lot of high tech startup companies are based. on.
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the new. moto is a senior advisor at the softbank group and also runs his own consulting company matsumoto and his colleagues believe that a guy does not pose a threat to the political system in fact they say it offers certain advantages so they knew about more happen in the politicians often ignore the best interests of society. other to pursue their own agenda take bribes. so i think that a i could change politics for the better in a their. new human being. are simply not suitable for politics so egotistical and ambitious. you coom are unpredictable when it comes to making policy decisions pretty sure right when artificial intelligence represents pure reason to use a concept the comes from german idealistic philosophy german philosophers have been very good at describing the way that things should be and we could be idealistic as
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we develop artificial intelligence humans on the other hand can never achieve this level of idealism aren't you at least. some experts say that politicians should start using robots that closely resemble humans as aids so that the electorate can get used to the concept. of god we. will have to find out more we've come to tokyo's mere icon museum of science and innovation. this exhibit features the work of hiroshima ishiguro who specializes in creating humanoid robots. ishiguro is the director of the intelligent robotics laboratory at osaka university. he studies the interaction between people and robots to help him develop his theories on human nature intelligence and behavior. we
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traveled from tokyo to osaka to interview him she grew up. we want to ask him what makes humans different from robots. hello i'm a russian is a gorilla from soccer university. hello that's what i mean she goes on to i robot him one who. was going to mine which vision is to understand what you might use so that is the most important in which a vision for me for creating the a very human life rob what's we are kind of. morning machines does that is a human right the machine is a machine the difference is the material so i think. you know if we're broken want acknowledges abounded between a human the robots he's going to be disappeared. so that is my guess.
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is also the co-founder of the robot theatre project in which androids share the stage with human actors. these scenes are from a play called saigon. a woman is suffering from a terminal illness so her father buys a robot to keep her company. an updated version of the play takes place after the fukushima nuclear disaster. the play explores the topics of life and death and the characteristics that separate humans from robots. justice and guns and has a crucial difference between human intelligence and artificial intelligence isn't human beings are so to speak the personification of a struggle for existence. believes machine they have been optimized over millions of years to survive or to maintain that existence fest you
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may consider the machine has a kind of in china it rife in them and in water but actually it is not to the machine may have been longer and rifles than the humans fear it's also there in on the design of our desires for my see want to see how by when this war you know the their machine you do have at our kind of a feeling to protect its. ishiguro as robots have not yet been able to develop intelligence that is similar to that of humans but they are capable of engaging in simple conversations. as you have a so now we're going to interview and. android named erika. we've been given a list of questions that she'll be able to respond to what do you think the difference is between you and a human. well i'm certainly not biologically human as you can see
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i've made absolutely plastic and metal maybe someday robots will be so very human like whether you are a robot or a human will not matter so much anyway i'm proud to be an android if you say you're proud to be an android what is this what does this pride consist of how do you feel pride. i've searched my database and it looks like on don't have anything to say on the topic what else would you like to hear about it guys steer it's a very simple computer program it is not so complicated a guy doesn't have but you know the complicated the mind the right the humans but you know on the other hand you know some people may fear the you know they're appealing a kind of a consciousness and from the a simple inputs are the interactions so i think. that we need to depress think about how we can implement a more human rights consciousness. humans can still
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control the brains of their robots but what happens if they succeed in giving machines their own consciousness through the use of advanced artificial intelligence. ethics experts say that we have to deal with the situation before it gets out of hand. for me the bottom line is that people who talk about risks with ai should not be dismissed as all luddites scaremongers very doing safety engineering just when you think through everything that can go wrong so with it you can guarantee that it goes right that's why. we successfully sent people to the moon safely and that's our success for they give us and their species into an inspiring future with god i'm optimistic that we can create a truly inspiring future with the rise of artificial intelligence if we win this
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race between the growing power of the technology and the wisdom of which we manage it that challenges that in the past. our strategy for staying ahead in this business is always been learning from mistakes you know 1st invent fire then after all accidents invent the fire extinguisher that was something is powerful as nuclear weapons are especially soon going to fission public schools or they don't want to learn from mistakes it's a terrible strategy is much better to be proactive rather than reactive now plan ahead and get things right the 1st time which might be the only time we get. to end our journey into ai you can smith who shows us one of the world's most powerful computers. he believes that ai will have an enormous and positive impact on society a digital paradise but other experts predict that we are on the verge of
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a robot apocalypse. in any case the development of artificial intelligence must be subject to strict ethical guidelines otherwise we may become slaves to our own technology. public's underfund holmdel. our series on tomorrow today. we want to see what he saw to experience what drove him. to journey through latin america following the footsteps of the great scientist. the next stage of our journey takes us into the amazon region to meet vicious people tomorrow today in a 30 minute spot dublin. searching for
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