environment is not responsible make up your own mind. dw, made full minds. the presidential elections in russia, of the usual foregoing conclusion, with nothing left to chance, not even the death in jail, as the leading opposition figure. i liked saying about me, whose name poston cousins, bring himself to speak. my guest is the russian commentary to andre kalashnikov, who had split kindly. he rush, are you ready just sent that in moscow? wasn't of only such a serious threat to put in his regime that he had to be killed either to be in prison or when it was a threat to pretend that competitor may be invisible in an information feel about the same time, quite mighty. and way to compress it for, for the parts of that population. then because of that, it was important to,

let's see, eliminate him from the political fuel. so what's it like to live with a government that kills its political opponents and seem for most go, why the sub space of warnings by nato officials, about a russian attack over the next few years. what does a know we done? on the color of welcome to complex of excellence. it's much, it's time for presidential elections in russia of id may i put in once a 5th time. that'd be my food and always gets once he once is, this is close to absolute power as it gets in russia. yes. so this is one more step to choose actual power. but so when we ask yourself, where was this 20 points for she seems as a decrease michigan mostly because development because of june was somewhere in the year 2020. when she told the referendum about some of the med,

most of the constitution, both of may think about 0 and copious prison essential terms. and now she is over to the president. and the after is that all the doors were open for any steps. functions sites like to this war of february 22, 22. unfortunately of nevada means the same year 2020. it doesn't have much to do with democracy. it does it. these elections, even mr. perkins spokesman dmitri pest golf, tell the new york times last year, presidential election isn't really a democracy. it's a costly bureaucracy. so why bother with this show? because this is one more attempt that demonstrates to the majority of the rest and populations that they, they are still the majority, which is obedience, indifference and ready to continue to accept the pretense initiatives.

and just as important as that's minority minority is a must understand that they are still minorities as they can to influence that i think is this country because we have a majority which is in flash which supports proteins. so nothing to do with this political system. we can't change anything because of that. so these electrons search to no significant is the same time just this one more, really around the flex. why not to, to repeat this kind of really into refresher legitimacy or for see what the correct o. credible candidates of being eliminated way before the polling stations open bar is not just in the anti war candidate. he was disqualified by the states because some traction for a while. was he a, a threat? was he didn't that's right. edition was squares attracted to the public who was

liberal views and you know, in the rush or millions of people who are sharing to liberal pro the critic pro western the anti porch and the vision of the world. and because of the my dish and was kind of afloat for this people wednesday sun and it for she and it was understandable that criminal decide it's not till ocean to participate because she puts it undermines the feeling of absolutes comes to the dish and around put him in a case of getting, i don't know, $56.00, even 10 percent of it, man it was, it could means that the paternity is not the only one who is so who deserves. so the supports and there are people with the enter your agenda, not to mention that and zip case. and that doesn't include demonstrates enter your agenda via television. and the code says shake because of use. so for the majority, which is still not connected to the tv set. so, so with no,

they decided not to not to risk you from that slide risk. i'm alexa in the bottom, a dad and a prison camp in the arctic circle. was he ever really an electrical threat to prove to or was it that he and all those like him, we're never going to be allowed to get anywhere near that status. the only didn't have an opportunity to participate in the legal political process. but so when she did participate in the year 2013 during moscow's mayor's elections, he was extremely efficient, astonishingly efficient for kremlin. and after that they decided to not to allow him to participate in any kind of like options. so he was a real threat to put him down to some moments. so moment to he needs a pass to the whole political process reduced busy. now this is fine between the

and the fall knee and approach him. and is that sense even being can prison? that when it was a threat to pretend that competitor may be invisible in an information field about the same time, quite mighty and square to compress it for, for the parts of the population. and because of that, it was important to, let's see, eliminate him from the political field. do you by the story that he was about to be swapped for a kayla. so having time in germany, due by that story of, we don't know the truths may be, will not know it, but it looks like global story. and in this sense, simple, it wasn't requested dance. uh that she was, let's say maybe killed maybe by some maybe something else. so we have to wait

for some results sofa. she's still able to search. true. maybe is the gym to clear up some good deals. and i found this family is pretty clear and his colleagues are pretty clear that the state did kill him. you wouldn't seriously argue with that, would you? i would say likely. so the experience of this regime demonstrates that it's as possible. let's remember as a case of st policy or in any other cases and put in the several times to repeat it and you are anxious, courier. that's my pets, realty color oriented, or again, since people do that, but these and because of that among people with uh, let's say liberal views, there is no doubt. that's why they put the keels. uh no, no, we don't have the controls if evidence of it. so,

but the feeling is very strong, come on, russian civil society. we know that they tried and failed to kill him back in 2020 and we know because the millions listen to a government assassin describing his previously unsuccessful attempt to kill him about me. little realizing that he was actually talking to him about the i'm being recorded by him at the time. so nobody's going to believe any government denials of a underscore. uh, you know, which means what do we mean by nobody to because of the majority of still prefers to believe freedom, main unofficial version. or prefer us not to think about this. the horrible story you know, so low to for russian. so they didn't know about the place of things that i didn't know about that the so it's not what it means it in this camp on your arctic circle,

but the majority prefers not to boulder itself. uh uh, not to pay too much attention to, to this for us in order to keep for themselves mentally normal. um this would be more old, but the majority prefer is not to know. and it seems about uh like, uh, uh, casualties still with his, uh, does so through etc. and because of that, that's more about the leaf with disbelief amongst people with the normal view space, a democratic fused record revive from a lawyer at the human rights group. memorial said, if they could kill no violently, they could kill anybody else. if he's right, where does all this end? all the kennings of the political prisoners. why does this and i know the real threat is to political prisoners. i'm sure we don't have

a political position in the proper sense of civil worth right now because of a high level of for patients kyra's in the names of substitute new new orleans of last year or so for his existence. and i, i, i would say that unfortunately, for instance, people like to let him know cut them. it was a, really, a yes from could be under threats. and not everyone in dissidence community, but the main of the most local people from mazda political, a position, because barto was a political position as a broad sub parts. so for the looters are in prison. so for people who are in prison, so there is a real threat. i think unfortunately, you spoke of the value of this funeral about moral resistance among the population, people carrying flowers and candles to his memorials. how much of that moral resistance is left in russia. uh, like

a stress of sorts moral because as i said, political position isn't so efficient right now. and this is more about a moral resistance and about political resistance. this people can fight as they do not want to fight for power. they don't have for literacy. they don't have organizations which are totally liquidated by the regime, even small in jewels, but the dose of not only demonstrates as a funeral and around the dentist way to that this single society still here must be for a society search which is very different. so i'm passive and full of confirm is and that civil society, the society of responsible citizens who us to who for the best for, for the country, for in a permanent order because of this war, they demonstrated that they are here. it was extra route step for people club for

who were going to to the funeral because of the, the face recognition system is working and sometimes, but listening to coming to a to is if last. so was this people after a different kind of events, wolf, the funerals like the link flowers as the man, as a place is of no ma'am, there we go, for political repression, so cetera, et cetera. so if you want to see the so civil society in the rush, we can overcome. for instance, a website over the, in for with the concrete statistics about persecutions about the criminal prosecutions, administrative persecutions, extension useful persecution. spent a lot of examples of these kind of problems for russian citizens, but she resist civil society, which is still ready to resist. and i'm ready to at least to

think of all the constitution, think about so as a responsibility collective responsibility you, you talked about valid is legacy. i'd like to know how long you think it will last . isn't it inevitable that as the years go by, there will be less and less opposition? a moral or real repression works? doesn't it? impressions efficient? yes for patients work, but at the same time no. this fatigue from room is also sheer. and in a case of mine, there was successful for a civil society and demonstration that was to use uh, some people quite hesitating corpus difficult for me says they can't share the view sofa. and this actually, if a single society activities a so in that sense or actually isn't hopeless and i think it was just like and so the attempts were when men else people were ready for change of skin color. which

of key when government, which refers to cook, the power ends is being a bunch of population is also ready for changes. but so, you know, in current circumstances kind of a single though must came from the very top. and the was out a change in the 1st person, i guess. so the serious changes in russia are impossible. veteran now extraordinary efforts and you've outlined some of them to, to clamp down on even the slightest infractions of this expanding penal code that the author already is. keep adding to. we hear of teachers in schools reporting a 1011 year old pupils to the security police books, a band people arrested on the metro because they were reading something. but the fellow passengers didn't like every case pursued with the utmost vigor and brutality. and i suppose my question is, is the state really that insecure about its hold on paul and its people?

you know, it's smarter. bells cell development of russian style. all sorts here is my would say this is not simply and assorted terrorism is more about him. it's high, but it's a tell it to it and it's the same utilitarianism because the state is trying to infiltrate into all this for yourselves. a private life of people you to want it wants to control. for instance, theaters repair to ours. uh, uh, book markets, libraries, etc, etc. but nevertheless, this societies mother in law has it's this a sort of a well educated society and people are trying to keep for the private space to see more and more or less normal situation. and it looks us to print it's some, some what we sorry poor who could appear in this such a strange hospitality or in space. assume a yes or

a difference. the threats like denunciations from your competitor else. but nevertheless, it is still, it is still civil society and i can repeat it, it is not so hopeless and get the chance survives this period. but the, the space of deliberate to you for free to my snare rooms. this is through, but if you wants to do something, you can try. and some people are trying to, to write to articles, to be vocal and to, to, to talk at least to talk about the constitution. it's, it's not sales or it's not help does it by the fact that so many ordinary citizens appear willing to inform on each other on their colleagues and their families and their friends. how destructive is that to the fabric of russian society destroys trust on the to yes it's true, it's to,

the trust is not so the strong side of the society is a trust each other. but some people simply prefer not to talk with unknown persons . they prefer to talk and also who they are trying not to be so vocal sitting in congress for instance, to say prefer not to discuss political issues. this is true, but you know, it's the same time uh, again who, who wants to resist can try to do it. for instance, if there is such a new magazine which was initiated by the nova, laura, it's a mr. moran is a title going to be in a corporation with gorbachev foundation. and this is one of the attempts to to, to, to, to create something to you,

even in the circumstances. there was some problems with this magazine, but it is still in the fields. so why not to transfer this all think uh, and this it's, it's a, it's contribute. so, something like hope for the future. when we talk about hope, let's also talk about the war in ukraine, which has of course, exacerbated the repression left good cough. leading russian sociologist says there's a high degree of support for the war highest among the educated and the educated in moscow does not surprise you. yes. is there a lot of surprising stories, especially in the field of mess? psychology miss. so, so a g and uh, you know, this is all about people who are afraid of changing their life. so they are trying to avoid problems with themselves. which means that as a full flip, say,

double thinking of a pretending the ward doesn't exist. so they can to avoid the mentioning fee to thinking about it. so that's a trying not to do it publicly. maybe is the same people, but who they want to continue as a career, as for instance, in the university. so something like that. but as a private spacing, their quizzes selected to us. and so we have time so they can discuss freely the current situation with the core, with the some assessments which are not public. let's see, this is more about privates assessments private life. so this is more about double thinking. you said recent pay that pretend as make clear russia is fighting a permanent background war with the west. best argument gives is him his rational, his way to maintain power?

does put in one fact war in your view. oh yes, she wants me. she's the main initiator, i'm sure. is that, and is this personal, this decreasing? put in was the main source of, of this war was this idea. ology, which justifies for the russian id with nation alanta in nationalistic and imperialistic ideas. the very archive now that deals to the, to the, to tradition, send the spiritual values, etc, etc. and she must in advance of the goal for the society. so it's just not coping is more capitalism. and very inventive and traveling this permanent for was the best, the best was also taking us. so we must defense our sales. and even though we're expansion expansions, this is kind of, this is more about defense. and uh, the reason the reports, reese, i'm sorry to interrupt you,

reset the intelligence reports in the west of suggested russia intends to double the number of its troops on the border with the baltic states and finland. and people have spoken. officials, government officials in several countries have spoken of the fact that that could possibly be attacked by russia on the nato countries over the next few years. how plausible do think that these things this is because p r o to be so then to to, to, to, to look so mighty, so impressive. uh, uh, and i guess he wants to create i am, she's a political philosophies. this is a part of russian for sure, and she wants to return and strengthen as he says, so this territories. and she doesn't care about voltage states for the length or, or pulled this as a loop service. in my opinion. she will not have enough resources for one more

flank, one more front uh, she simply wants to continue this permanent toward was the best as a goal for the society, but at the same time in the practical terms and apply it to her. and she doesn't want to take the, for instance, baltic stays because it will mean the real world was native. it was really much more serious. um, that's just sort of a situation that was your brain. doesn't need to look weak to russia to put in a not so weak about to what was this very majority of the society, which in looks like a strong man, coolly queasy, equal to the tomato nature. this more of those that you mature for the main enemy? or united states of america, nathan, in europe is kind of a such a line to of uh, of nato in the ends of united states. you said last month that despite all the new,

clear se but rattling, but we've heard from fulton, they don't want the afraid of nuclear war. what makes you so sure of that? held as a no. so as you settled, they must understand that. so you're going to use those that technical uh, ukes, uh, could be suicidal for uh for say every gene for the country they want to leave for. they want to enjoy this life and because of that, so yes, so the, so nuclear black mailing, she's quite impressive and quite effective as it is quite effective because it's presented to prevents as the west from giving the sophisticated weapons to you. correct? yes. as a problem for actually so that's a very conversations that talk about the nuclear work became such a light. my talk, we can do it. why not? this is a main danger to proceed the domestic public so that it is possible. this is

a danger of furniture story and wrote recently that society is like russia, autocracies don't bend, but they can break. do you believe that after all russia has broken, the soviet union broke up. the button wall came down, communism was denounced as a failed experiment. under what circumstances do you think russia could conceivably come apart? now? you know, when we're talking about this, the future ends the behavior of our lights. they're behaving like that according to the drover up in order to look after us as it is the slots and in that sense, they hopelessly as they have enough resources to continue this work until the physical end of uh, putting them to his team. but uh,

their services could be depleted and the next generation though, for petitions, they will have to take responsibility for the country for the european security. and this as an interest of the west coast call and interest mutual interest of the russians at west said to have a new generation of people who can recreate discounts for you from 0 this summer full count because the resources i'm not to the terminal. so the bills are full, russia, that's the alexa in the valley you talked about does exist somewhere down the line and you'll view it exists in the, in the soul, southern brain sofa pro democratic russians as they are here. and as they will be ready for changes when the time will count, i'm very classic of thank you very much for being on comforting. so thank you. thank you for having me here. the,

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