"what we've been seeing for the past few weeks, months, is that ukraine is losing ground on the battlefield, and that's because of congressional inaction," karin jan pieher said. this week should be, if not decisive, at least symbolic for our aid, which has aid to ukraine from the americans, 61 billion dollars at stake, what do you think, will it be enough. other world leaders in order to convince the american congress that ukraine needs help, because it concerns the whole world, not only ukrainians. i think david has already met, or i 'm wrong, i saw somewhere on twitter, if not, i think he's meeting today, will he be able to convince anyone, i'm a bit skeptical about that, he's not... he knows how to convince , he

gets it, well, although, as you know, he initiated a referendum on brexit, then lost, so sometimes it would be better not to convince, i say this with respect to him, i know him well, without any, without any sarcasm or some unfriendly trolling, will he be able to convince someone in congress, well maybe a few critical congressmen, yes, i would very much hope so. i also have a feeling from talking to my friends and acquaintances there, that well, if not by the end of this week, then by the end of the next, well, plus or minus , we will have some minimal clarity there, they are repackaging this law there, someone says: let's divide it again into ukrainian aid to israel, and what to do with taiwan, there are still nuances. in

addition, part of the republican congressmen, they want to hook some with a locomotive there a credit element, some kind of credit component and component to show this to your voters, that is, to create such a hybrid, aid is aid, but partly credit, there are discussions about the economic part of the aid, well, there is more or less the military part, in my opinion it is progressing positively. well , the republicans certainly want to hitch something there with a locomotive, without this, no way, and now they want to hitch the cancellation of restrictions on the export of liquefied gas. the question is not easy for the democrats, i think that it is not particularly a question for biden either i like it, i wouldn't say they forced it, but somehow, somehow they put it on.

it's a question for him, but for the left such a progressive part of the democrats, it's such an important issue from an environmental point of view including, so how will they play there, democrats, republicans, plus there are various weirdos still trying if mike johnson, the speaker of the congress goes go ahead with these proposals, somehow drop it, although what i hear ... in the event that there is an agreement of such a thing between the democrats and the republicans, then the democrats seem to be ready mike johnson, let's say, support, let's use a better verb, protect, that's why i'm so moderately optimistic, but that doesn't mean that something won't change tomorrow, i've been following the congress for the last three months. and

i have the feeling that something is happening there every day, i don't know if they are taking this example from us or from someone else, but politics in the congress is becoming more and more interesting and more and more unpredictable. so you mentioned david cameron, what he already wrote on twitter, me found this tweet, or rather on the social network that he writes, he met with antony blinkin wrote the united kingdom and the united states. united in supporting ukraine against putin's aggression, we stand up for freedom and democracy when they are threatened, and blinkin and i work together to maintain critical international support for our friends in ukraine, their support is at the heart of what we both speak, if i translated correctly, at least, it is normal, well , what is written in official sources, you you know what is written is not always with... everything that

is discussed, but david's presence in the states is a cool story, he is known as such a balanced conservative, balanced. he has the opportunity to talk to both democrats and republicans, so if he succeeds in something, we will only applaud. thank you, mr. pavle, this was pavlo klimkin, diplomat, politician, minister of foreign affairs of ukraine in 2014-19. friends, we work live on the tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms, during this program we we conduct a survey and ask you about whether you consider the channels of a single telethon. strategic for the economy and security of the state, why are we asking this question, why are we articulating, because the employees of the channels that are in the single telethon have been booked from mobilization, so we are asking whether these channels of the single telethon, in your opinion, are in fact

strategic for the economy and of state security, no, everything is quite simple on youtube, if you watch us on tv, pick up your smartphone on the phone and vote yes 08'. 211 381 no 0800 211 382 all calls to these numbers are free, vote, at the end of the program we will sum up the results of this vote. next, we are in touch with ivan stupak, military expert, former employee of the security service of ukraine. mr. ivan, i congratulate you, thank you for being with us today. good evening, studios, thank you for the invitation. well, first of all, let's talk about strikes on russian territory, since ukrainian drones attacked that night. aviation breeding center in the voronezh region, it is reported that there is i training aviation center, there were production facilities there, it was in the city of boris aglebsk, the main intelligence department said that it was their special operation, or rather

, some anonymous people there confirmed, hinted that it was gur who worked, how do such strikes affect russia and do they affect , if... have a weak influence, what do you think is needed, mr. ivan, for them to have a stronger influence? oh, what a great question, the impression is that i work in the office of the president, responsible for all all all these blows, or there, i don't know, in the general headquarters look, well, okay, you and i are thinking here now, and immediately with your audience respectfully share your thoughts, they have their thoughts, well, i think you will have a discussion there in the chat, a discussion, of course, it is important to choose goals. isn't it, the goals in the russian federation are simply, as i say, a wagon and a small cart, well, there are many, and everywhere, and political goals, and economic goals, and military goals, many, many things, but our resources are limited, if in we were talking about, i don't know, 1000 drones per

month that we have, then it would be possible sit and pretend, let's give here 100, here 200 and here and there 400 and here and there the rest that will remain, we have a lot of drones. it is more difficult for the russians to have air defense , there is electronic warfare, there are mobile patrols like ours that shoot down drones that fly by, so so far i see that really the best targets that have been chosen are oil refining facilities, oil refining complexes, bulk terminals , which are destroyed, because it is fuel, fuel is money, except that fuel is the blood of war, money is also the blood of war, it is revenue. to of the russian budget, this is the payment of russian soldiers, this is the circumvention, well, salaries, this is the circumvention of sanctions, the purchase of various electronics, with the money that comes in, so the destruction is an occlusion, we are already seeing the first such careful results, so they are not yet obvious, but

14 approximately % of the russian oil and natural complex has become disabled, that is, it has been damaged or disabled for a long period of time. and the russians, that they are already starting to reserve their own fuel resources at belarusian refineries, plus they have booked in kazakhstan 100 00, they asked, or rather 100 00 tons of oil products in case the special operation does not go according to plan, well, in that case, the question here is whether kazakhstan will be able to provide such a quantity of fuel, it is in question, it is not clear, so i think that the next goals should be to be, apart from, or rather, apart from the refinery, the container. with fuel that has already been produced and is stored in the form of a reserve, a reserve for a rainy day. such objects, i think, they will also become objects for our hitting, except, of course, purely military objects, purely military airfields where carcasses, drying, birds and so

on are located. our western partners are quite stingy, to put it mildly, quite stingy, but they give weapons, long-range weapons, they believe that the ukrainians can... strike on the territory of the russian state and then the russians can fly to them, they still, on your opinion, they hope to find some common ground with putin and... the russians, because if they say that russia must be defeated, or rather, they say that ukraine must not be defeated, well with from which i conclude that russia must obviously be defeated, or do they want this war, conditionally speaking, to end in a draw, and they are again friendly with the russians, and therefore these weapons do not reach us, although it is quite obvious that such weapons are now necessary to defeat the russians . well , now i heard part of the conversation with the honorable pavel klinkin and where he says that now

the american parliament has turned into, well , almost like ours, it is also not foreseen when they will vote, hell knows if they will vote at all, well, the only thing is that it seems that there are no outspoken people corruption scandals, but santa barbara is really interesting in them, there is such a big drag, soap drags on in them, and there is such a big concept that the united states is afraid, well... i don't know, it is appropriate to use the term: afraid, wary, afraid, tense about the fact that the russian federation, well, of course, this is a retaliatory blow, this is a direct confrontation, the americans have something to lose, the russians, well, look how they live in the mud, well, in the mud except for moscow, of course moscow is there in gold and in stones and stones, that's all the rest are scumbags, that is, they have nothing to lose , the way of life of americans is built in such a way that everyone uses the dollar, new york, las vegas, everything is there. yes, well, they wouldn't want to lose it in the ashes of a nuclear war, that's what they're afraid of, of course, but to put it

more pragmatically, it's the potential collapse of the russian federation, yes, it would be cool for us, it's the dream of every average citizen of ukraine, that russia is disintegrating into 100-500 different separate principalities, and there they are all fighting, all shooting, raping each other and everything, but there everything is sid and gomorrah, we would really be interested in this, but the americans look at it from a geopolitical point of view... what they are afraid of is that the weapon is a classic conventional weapon, that it is like in the 90s, it will begin to spread to the middle east, to african countries, to fall into the hands of some i don't know, middle eastern, far eastern terrorist groups, and then it will turn against american military personnel, american citizens everywhere, all over the globe, they don't like it very much, even more they don't like falling into the hands of some incomprehensible traders nuclear weapons, components of delivery vehicles,

some missiles and the potential creation of, for example, or a real nuclear bomb by some other countries other than those that are, and also the creation of a dirty nuclear bomb, what is a dirty nuclear bomb? i will remind your respected viewers, this charge, an explosive, is something small, conditional in a backpack in a suitcase. it explodes, there is no chain reaction, there is no mushroom, there is no light, it just explodes and radioactive materials fly away, and there in the zone of damage of this explosive device is a geiger brush goes off the scale and i don't know there , no one will be able to live there for 500 years, but the americans are really afraid of this, that they can detonate this bomb somewhere in the manhattan or wall street area, that is , it is a very big fear, fear, and that's why i think that this is all in complex affects white's position. well, they are also afraid that the russians may commit, as they say,

dangerous actions at the zaporozhye nuclear power plant, just a few days ago, the russians reported that two drones were launched into the dome by ukrainians , apparently there in one of the premises of the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant, the spokesman for the department of the united states of america, matthew miller , said that yesterday. this drone attack the day before yesterday on the military did not endanger nuclear safety, but warned russia against dangerous actions. let's hear what matthew miller had to say. russia is playing a very dangerous game by seizing the ukrainian nuclear power plant, which is the largest in europe. this is dangerous, and we continue to call on russia to withdraw its military and civilian personnel from the facility, to regain full control above the station to the competent ukrainian authorities and to refrain from any actions that could lead to a nuclear

incident at the station. mr. ivan, all over the world they don't talk to terrorists, they don't urge them not to do what shouldn't be done, terrorists are usually destroyed, because, well, that's how it's always been, except that there are now some terrorist groups warning against terrorist acts, why... there is no black and white in the world now, well, there are terrorists and aggressors, there are victims of terrorist acts, if... terrorists capture a nuclear object, these are nuclear terrorists who are blackmailing the entire world, not even ukrainians, and well, in this situation, when the zaporizhia nuclear power plant has been in the hands of the terrorists who seized it for two years, it seems very strange that they are somehow trying to convince them there , warn, you don't need to do this, be careful there with

the reactors, why doesn't the world take a hard approach to nuclear... terrorism, because if some other group, not a terrorist state russia, was created, then probably that terrorist group would be put there i'm in some a very short time? let's break this issue down into components, let's eat this elephant piece by piece, and yes, i understand your point, well , terrorists, what negotiations with terrorists should be destroyed, well, the russian federation, it is not a terrorist, it is an aggressor country, well, let's define once, in secondly, it is a problem of ukraine. we lost control over our facility, this is not a problem of the united states, this is a problem of ukraine, this is not a problem of india, china, this is a problem of ukraine, ukraine will solve it. ukraine has forces, resources, means, there are no opportunities. secondly, if we use the term that the russian federation is a terrorist country and there, well, they should be treated as such, then the big difference is

that when the united states confronts a terrorist group, for example, the taliban in afghanistan, then they use what ... navigation, there are ground forces, there are large cruise missiles, and the taliban use terrorist tactics of shooting in the back. plus the nuclear triad, what is the nuclear triad, this is the air force, this is the naval force that can carry a nuclear warhead, the ground force, these are the big mines where they are opened. it's a strategic nuclear warhead out there , it can fly 5-10,00 km, and it's aviation, aviation that can carry nuclear, nuclear warheads, and the russian federation, as a terrorist country, it surpasses even the united states in terms of nuclear warheads. the last known figures were approximately 6,000 nuclear warheads in the russian federation, in total. and roughly somewhere, well, i was

parity by the united states for 1500 times inflicted e-e. in an active state, that is , it is very difficult to deal with such a terrorist, it will simply threaten a total nuclear war and the end of humanity as such, against the background of this terrorist anti-terrorist hysteria in russia, when they accuse ukrainians of being involved in what we have even already financed these terrorists there, who... committed a terrorist attack in crocusity hall, they are already saying, today already there, a russian spy began to say that the burizma company is there, to which, by the way, hunter biden was involved, do you remember this story, a long story, and trump once convinced zelensky that let's activate the case before the last presidential election, then this whole

story almost ended with the impeachment of trump, and then they dragged burism out of it, shake, show, you see. chiburism financed these terrorists, they were supposed to take this million rubles from kyiv, these tajiks who drove this unfortunate car from moscow, what do you think, this is what they are already tying both biden and biden's son into this, it designed for the domestic consumer exclusively, do they still think that some countries there, well, i don't know, the global south or there, maybe other countries, that they can take this... information seriously, apart from convenience, because well, this is burizma - this is true, maybe this is one of the last known cases when the united states crosses ukraine, well, it is very serious, and what can be used by the russian federation, this is how they bring in these tajiks, you rightly said about a million rubles, i just wonder, where they are quite understandable, this is such rhetoric, but

where did they try to find these million rubles in kyiv, well, you can find a million euros like that, you can find a million dollars... you can’t even find them in an antique shop in kyiv anymore, because they burned them there everything, here is a question, here they are somehow crossing these united states, they are behind this in the sims and here in ukraine, i am interested in ukraine, here is hunter biden, that is, it is all invested, i think it is working now for the election against the current president joseph biden and for donald trump, i think in this way... is trying to play along and so that it affects the electorate in the united states, what do you see, here you see, here this is how they work, because they commit terrorist acts, here they finance ukraine. ukraine is a terrorist on a par with idil and biden supports idil and supports the terrorist government of ukraine, so you should vote for another candidate. thank you, mr.

ivan, for the conversation, it was ivan stupak, a military expert, a former employee of the security service of ukraine. friends, we work in live broadcast of the tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms. subscribe to our platforms, participate in our voting. today we ask you about this, whether you consider the channels. telethon strategic for the economy and security of the state, why are we asking about this, i repeat throughout our program so that there are no different interpretations, because they booked employees of the channels of the single telethon from mobilization to the armed forces of ukraine, referring to the fact that the single telethon is strategic for the economy and security of the state, do you think that these channels are strategic for the economy and security? states, yes, no, everything is quite simple on youtube, if you pick up a smartphone or phone and watch us on tv, there are special numbers for you, yes 0800 211 381, no,

0800-211-382, all calls to these numbers are free, call, at the end of the program we will sum up the results of this vote. next, ihor reiterovych, political scientist, head of political and legal programs of the ukrainian center for social development, will be in touch with us. mr. igor, i am you congratulations. thank you for joining our conversation. congratulations! well, actually, here is our survey, which i am asking now, in which i am asking tv viewers, viewers to take part, it concerns the mobilization of 2024, tomorrow the verkhovna rada of ukraine should start consideration of the law on mobilization in the second reading, more than 400 amendments , i don't know which part of these edits will be approved which. has not been approved, obviously tomorrow the head of the specialized parliamentary committee will report to the verkhovna rada of ukraine, but this mobilization law, which will be considered

parliament, this will be a challenge for president zelensky, and it will be a challenge for all of ukraine, because after this, the rules of mobilization and demobilization must change or be regulated in ukraine, and this order will probably be affected. 95% of all men who will be recognized as suitable and the status of limited suitable will change to suitable, how do you assess the prospects for the adoption of this law, because it can be compared, except with the constitution of ukraine, well, such a fundamental law that will determine a lot of things that will affect the present, but also the the future of ukraine, what do you say? you say, watching the news reports and what is happening around this mobilization law, is there a prospect that this law will be passed? i

think that sooner or later it will be adopted, the key question here is when exactly it will happen, as of today the situation is quite sad, because as far as i know, those attempts to establish communication between the office of the president and, above all , the monomajority, they have not been proven there so far to the logical conclusion. and significant part of the deputies are from the people's servants, they do not yet know how they, well, they will participate in the discussion of this draft law, perhaps put forward some of their wishes or claims, vote there or not vote for the amendments, but whether they will be ready to finally vote for accordingly, it is already in the second reading, so far this issue is open, because there are several principled positions that will be decided from the wheels and decided directly in the session hall. at the same time, the office of the president tried to work actively enough with various groups that are in the parliament, including within the monomajority itself, in order to gather the necessary number

of votes and have an understanding that there, for example, in a week, in two, this bill will be voted on, you understand , there is another such nuance, voting for it, and as soon as possible, well, in the nearest period, it is also strategically important from the point of view of those processes that are unfolding in the united states of america. because a certain number, for example, republicans, they, well, not on camera, and some even on camera, say that we first want to see what will happen with the law on mobilization in ukraine, after that make a final decision whether or not to allocate aid, then if, in order to avoid a strange situation, that we money, and you're not doing the things that should be important to you, so in that context, well, i'm definitely predicting enough of that, you know, serious work and difficult work directly in the session hall. maybe even with certain attempts to somehow block the platform, bring up some questions, well as much as possible there in the informational and public space, somewhere to speculate on some

specific issues there, and then. to finally reach some kind of agreement, to some kind of compromise option, but at the same time there remains one more important point, which is related to the fact that there is a possibility that even if this law is considered and then voted accordingly in the verkhovna rada, the president , for example, can impose a veto on him, well, because he will see that he does not enjoy any support there in society at all, he will pay attention to some there several points, well, the most odious, and will require the parliament to change them, why this will happen, because... today, and this, by the way, is visible even from some statements of representatives of people who are close to the authorities, who are engaged in information support, government activities, they have not decided who and how will communicate with society about this law, the president, judging by the last interview, will not take the final political responsibility, he said that this is the prerogative of the verkhovna rada, and to many deputies of the verkhovna rada do not like this story, and i think that it can be

the very reason for the delay. considering this draft law, or voting for it, you know, in a very neutered form, which in turn may not please, for example, the armed forces of ukraine, who wanted to see there, let's say, one solution, yes, but in fact they will be seen by completely different people, which will directly affect the pace and quality of the mobilization that will be carried out in the country. the qualitative pace of mobilization can and can be affected. some stories that appeared literally before the consideration of this draft law in the second reading in the council, for example, the handing over of a subpoena to the slidstvo-info journalist, and who was conducting an investigation, regarding the head of the cyber security department of the sbu, ilya vityuk, and one of vityuk's subordinates brought two tetskashniki and

showed to whom it should be handed over. summons, they approached our colleague right in the trading hall and started handing him the summons, today it became known that ilyu vityuka, who was the head of the cyber security department of the sbu, if there is, he was sent to the front today, where he will perform special tasks together with the alpha unit, anna babinets, head of the slidstvainfo agency, said. let me remind you that vytyuk is written by anna. a figure in our investigation about elite property in pechersk, as well as a person who wanted to take revenge on the slidstvo.info journalist with a subpoena. now he himself went to the front, the punishment of war, as it is. punishment by war in quotation marks, of course. and today it became known that the head of the solomyansky tsk in kyiv, whose employees tried to hand over the journalist, to the journalist a summons ordered by the sbu, transferred to a lower position of one of the combat units of the armed

forces in... the country, obviously, obviously, these stories will be repeated in one way or another, and somewhere this story will gain publicity, somewhere it will not gain publicity history, to what extent the mobilization, which i will repeat once again, will obviously affect 95% of all men in ukraine, how much it will affect society, the temperature inside society, you have already said that zelensky can at some point veto this law and say that you are listening, the verkhovna rada of ukraine adopted the wrong law, shmygel submitted the wrong law, but i , as the supreme commander, believe that this should not happen, the probability that this will happen is high, well it is high enough now, why because there really is an ambiguous perception in society in general of this bill on mobilization, and this

ambiguity rests on two things: firstly, why did they start making changes to the mobilization legislation so late in general, and two years before that, they said that everything was under control, and there was no need for such a new mobilization, and the second point, well, this is really a question of justice, this story, which you mentioned with the delivery of the summons to the journalist, and then with the dispatch of people who were involved in this story somewhere on the front, it clearly has a negative effect on... in general, mobilization processes in the country, and punishment by war, well, in quotation marks there, or as a punishment sent to the front, but this is an absolutely unacceptable situation, or there transfer to some lower position, well it seems to me that if a person is involved in a certain scheme that may contain signs of certain corruption or the execution of orders by those who have nothing to do with it, then what does the sbu have to do with, for example, territorial assembly centers, well, they can only have a relationship , if they...