nuclear power plants in the lviv region, yes, that is, in all other regions, there is no such concentration, there is no crowding, well, to be honest , if they are going to strike, well, let them strike, i will tell you honestly, because one rocket there will cost 10 times more expensive than repairs, after they hit, and this is also exhaustion, yes, that is, it is already a risk ratio and so on, well, in principle, they are rarely idiots, they would rather shoot something in a shopping center than just in a cheap transformer . but the crossings through the dnipro, they will beat and two transformer units will be operated in odeszko. as you think in principle, we can count on the fact that with this situation with the shunting thermal power plants, we will be able to get through the winter more or less normally for the population and for the industry, what should be done, and here the question is how it will be. the situation with crossings abroad,

it is clear that if you have 7 gw of generation left, and you sometimes need 14 at a time, then there will never be any, you understand, that is, well, nowhere to take it, the question is that to what extent we will be helped by dispatching assistance from abroad, and this is the most expensive electricity, to be clear, that is, price increases will begin in the country itself, i understand correctly, and there is no other point. well, it’s just not there anymore physically, they, our management, which deals with this, it dragged on and dragged on for a long time, and now, even now, listen, well, well, if they don’t announce the tariffs, which will be idiocy, then it’s already going along i don't know, populists like venezuela or russia are the same, but if they don't hang up tariffs, then a situation will arise that will be transferred from one pocket to another. so

the front is not going to get money, they don’t give us money for the front, we spend it ourselves, that is, if they don’t raise the tariffs, then it’s an act, but today i read, for example, yevhenna from trebin, there is such a guy who writes, it’s normal, he says, we need to stop engaging in populism, take and deliver from 7:00 a.m. to 9:00 a.m. and from 7:00 p.m. to 9:00 p.m. slap tariffs 10 times more . that feels, has not been loaded, but no, then let people feel what is happening with the pressure of the dispatchers at that time, when this happens, that's what you need to do at this moment, you need not to do it 10 times over and over again, as it corresponds to reality abroad, that is, well abroad, prices can soar 20 times during peak hours there in the summer, that is, they also pay, couples pay. here

, the question is simply how much ukrainian consumers will be able to pay such tariffs, we understand that part of the population absolutely won't be able to do it, ah, you know, these fears that a portion of the population won't be able to do this, these fears are greatly exaggerated, in what sense, neither are many of these people who actually won't be able to pay at this time, and if... they won't be able to pay half, then what the hell is included from the 19th to the 21st? well, that's a good question, but people will tell you that they only come from work at this time, that they have no other time, because they came there, so be it, let these people say not to me, but to the people of kharkiv, who at this time have the only opportunity in a high-rise building to learn an electric heating device, because they got the hell out of this heat generation. and that's all, let's look at the well-to-do residents

of kharkiv, who have small children, and nothing else but electricity, they won't be able to do what you tell me, i 'll pay, well, that's probably the last question, at the expense of nuclear power plants, to what extent as far as we understand, as of today, nuclear power plants are the main source of electricity production, well, in addition to... let's say so, wind and solar power plants, so we well understand that the rashists, too, there, they are putting together some puzzles in their heads, whether they can hit the substations that relate to nuclear power plants and in fact in this way , at least there, temporarily disable the power supply already from nuclear power plants , which in fact will be the finish line in this case. so before the complete

power outage, well, look, first of all, they already hit these transformer nodes near nuclear power plants, this is not news, and that's why i'm paraphrasing your question. when they hit the transformer nodes of nuclear power plants again, what will we do? i don't know, this is a question, maybe he is still picking his nose and projects are being done at the expense of a wonderful project with fistingaluz, in 10 years we will get two new nuclear reactors in five years, this is a very cool project and so on. and what will happen when they hit these transformers? i don't know, is mr. kutin ready to answer this question? thank you, thank you, thank you, mr. andrey, andrey zakrevskyi, an energy expert, was in touch with us, we will now talk about what is happening in the caucasus, oleksandr boshko, the extraordinary plenipotentiary ambassador of ukraine to

armenia in the period 1996-2001 and 2005-2010 we have here in touch, congratulations , mr. oleksandr, good evening, good evening, well, it was recently. the meeting of the prime minister of armenia nikolay pashanyan, the secretary of state of the united states antony blinken and the head of the european commission ursula fonlein. we can say that this meeting shows a change to some extent geopolitical priorities in armenia? it not only shows changes in priorities, foreign policy priorities in armenia, but it also marks the beginning of its era, one can say, of the modern history of the south caucasus, political history, which for a long time was under the influence of the dominant and economic and political russia, and in this regard, i think that this meeting, the

document that came out as a result of the meeting, is extremely important, it is primarily about economic issues. of course in the field of multilateral relations of armenia, the european union, the united states, it seems to me, armenia is simply transferred somewhere to the distant year, already 2013, the month of september, when it refused to sign the multi-format. agreement between armenia and the european union, now it is trying to make up for it, as a result, it lost a lot of things, in my opinion, and the geopolitical tragedy for the armenian people, i mean the exit of armenians from

nagorno-karabakh, it is also connected with the mistakes of the foreign policy course in armenia, which she admitted in 2013. ugh well, now pashinyan sees, sees what this led to, in the end he decided to diversify foreign political relations, but this also applies to economic issues, because in armenia, as we know, absolutely in absolute dependence on russia, and politics , and the economy... is the same as politics, so it is, of course, about solving these problems and geopolitical ones, which include both economic and political issues. mr. oleksandr, the question is about relations between the current kremlin and

yerevan. for example, the american institution, private, the institute for the study of war, says that the kremlin actually wants. a challenge to sovereignty in armenia, that is, de facto to carry out all kinds of measures to undermine this sovereignty, to undermine the current government in armenia, and in principle they are already taking such actions, unfortunately. how effective can such actions be, and how can armenia now resist the actual expansive actions of the kremlin, which in principle have always been there for many years. three years after the restoration of independence in armenia, and now these steps are becoming, shall we say, more and more aggressive, especially in the context of the fact that russia is losing its influence on politics, on internal political processes in yerevan,

in general, a lot of opinions were expressed about this meeting in brussels, and here... both in armenia and in other countries, in particular in russia, in azerbaijan, where they were wary of this meeting, regarding beliefs. i generally follow events in this country , i am constantly on facebook, so to speak, in armenian, since i speak the armenian language, i have many friends i know there, i support this country, so there were a lot of inflated estimates saying that this meeting will give armenia a ticket to... europe, but as we can see, in the end,

this meeting came down to purely economic issues, providing support for the stability, er, economic stability and institutional stability er in armenia, it is meant, of course, er... about opposing her attempts to destabilize the situation, both political and economic, in relation to expectations, i saw the meetings, watched the meetings and in parliament, when pashinyan met with deputies, later a congress of pro-european forces was held in armenia, fortunately we have such a political force, at times when i worked as an ambassador in armenia, this could only be dreamed of,

since armenia was completely dependent on russia, absolutely, so it is about that these expectations did not come true, and this is understandable, because armenia as a country, we have experience with ukraine, it must pass a certain stage, so to speak, pass exams. that the homework should be solved, so this meeting was about homework and not about what kind of exit is instantaneous, so to speak, from the guardianship of the political structural or that russia was not discussed, on the eve of this meeting , the relevant institutions in iran conducted an analysis of the economic situation. and e-e have reached such a high point that

it is impossible to make a breakthrough in some kind of e-e, some kind of breakthrough in this regard, since everything is connected by economic and other, and humanitarian, including ties with russia, it is impossible to solve it in a few months, er or years, even, we are talking about er not less than tens of tens of years, er... the course in irmania to europe, that it chooses such a course, it was confirmed at this meeting, but this path is not easy, as we know from our own experience, and we wish success to our armenian friends, friends on this difficult path. in your opinion, what are the prospects for a peace agreement between armenia and azerbaijan? there are prospects, there are prospects, and... work is being done in this direction, but at the level of expert groups,

because it is said, it is necessary to agree on many issues related to the border, some enclaves, with the determination of passage border, the state border between iran and azerbaijan, as well, by the way, until now. these issues have not been resolved with georgia either, armenia is also conducting relevant work there, but as for me, as for me, a person who is connected with that region, i see that azerbaijan does not manage to emerge from the role of the winner of the war, and the winner of the war, there is such an opinion that he should dictate his terms, because of that, to all appeals of armenians. before the signing of this agreement, some new

proposals appear from the side of azerbaijan for what to delay the signing of this document. at the end of february of this year , the prime minister of armenia, nikol pashinyan , stated that he considered it real that azerbaijan could attack armenia. that is , in fact, a new round of war. we see that, in principle, after these words, a month and a half have passed, these statements have not received any development, yes. but many analysts believe that such a development is still possible in the future, if this peace treaty, which you also talked about yesterday, is not signed. as new as possible the war between azerbaijan and armenia, and what should be done by both countries in order to

avoid it, whether to make some concessions, whether it is possible to involve... people's partners in order to settle the actual, even those issues that still exist, are issues of disagreement, disagreements between both countries? well, the war is still going on between azerbaijan and armenia, it is about the cold war, we can see it from the way border forces are shelled from time to time, as a result of which civilians die, but before that we also saw certain raids of azerbaijani units to the territory of armenia, when those villages that azerbaijan considers its own were captured, so the war

continues, only its scale is different, but in fact the tension is the same. it exists, and this once again confirms that it is necessary to find political solutions as soon as possible to end this confrontation, because in principle, i am recalling the period of our initial ukrainian diplomacy, when we created such an organization in the years we were involved before being created as a goan, because it was about including... in the composition of this uh political organization and azerbaijan, and armenia, and other post-soviet countries that believe that, that see their future in european integration. unfortunately, for certain reasons, it is said that there was no necessary

support from the west for the existence and activity, the proper activity of this organization. it did not give the desired result, but the desire was such and such, i am sure that just like armenia, which declared its european future, i think that somewhere there are such visions in a large part of the azerbaijani society, another the thing is that, let's say, the format in which the statehood of azerbaijan presented itself, it presupposes a somewhat different diplomacy, of a different kind, i would say, that's why sooner or later, it's obvious to us, and we have to talk about it, and this was discussed, obviously at the meeting in brussels, it is about the joint integration of both

azerbaijan and armenia, first, and then... it is excluded that azerbaijan will try to find itself in this union, so this step and that confirmation , that in principle and azerbaijan, as we know, it was a member of the european parliament, its representatives were there, but for certain reasons of a certain demarche, they left here, so to speak, but we will look at... this as a temporary phenomenon and express hope that we are together, but this is definitely after the victory of ukraine, after how can we free our country from the russian aggressor, by the way, the russian aggression found a response

in the discussion of this brussels meeting, because the tivirmen... activists, politicians who, when, who criticized pashinyan, they accused him of what you turning to europe, aren't you? you don't see how europe behaved with ukraine, it provoked, so to speak, ukraine into such a pro-european course, and suddenly , at the moment when it needs decisive support for ukraine, it does not provide this support. thank you, mr. oleksandr, oleksandr boshko, the former ambassador of ukraine to the republic

of armenia, was in touch with us. war and how the world lives, two hours to be informed economic news and sports news, two hours in the company of favorite presenters, presenters who have become like-minded to many, as well as distinguished guests of the studio, events of the day in two hours, vasyl zima's big broadcast, a project for... intelligent and caring people in the evening at espresso. good evening, once again to all viewers of the tv channel, saturday political club, live broadcast, and now we will have 50 minutes of communication with vitaly portnikov, we will discuss the most important events that concern both ukraine and the world. actually, mr. vitaly, i think so we should to start again, probably with the united states of america, because a lot depends on their help, and actually we 've heard various statements this week, we've heard

statements from trump, we've heard statements from mike johnson, from the republicans, from the democrats, and all of them are related, it is clear that with the help of our state, with the help of ukraine, that is, with the absence, you are absolutely right, and that's actually it. first, trump voiced a kind of condition under which republicans support aid to ukraine, in principle he already voiced it speaker of the house of representatives, mike johnson, he says that his own people, conditionally speaking, will support, and the same johnson will support aid to ukraine if it is given on credit, so on the other hand, we now essentially see publications, for example from ... it says that the biden administration is allegedly much more afraid of nuclear escalation than at the beginning of the war, and this may actually

be evidenced by the same statements that ukraine should not fire at russian oil refineries and so on and so forth similar what does all this indicate? trump's statements, whether or not to provide aid, fears of the administration. biden or some representatives of the biden administration that ukraine is hitting russian oil refineries, how is it all, as they say, to put it all together, will this help finally come and will ukraine finally be able to receive in full, well, approval so that we can fight russia not by 10, 20, 30, 40%. 100% so that we could, at least, as they say, hold the front and and could at least move forward somehow, well, regarding statements

donald trump, i find it very difficult to understand why people have such a short memory, there may be a lot of news right now, but it's amazing that not only the people out there who consume the news, but also the journalists and analysts, have such a short memory. you can open google and... watch february 15 trump wants the united states to help ukraine with a loan. on march 5 , trump offers to provide credit assistance to ukraine. 5 days ago, zelensky reacted to trump's proposal to provide loan assistance to ukraine. and here suddenly sensational news: trump wants to help ukraine with a loan. there is a completely different sensational thing about this statement by trump, which does not apply at all to all his credit statements. ukraine, he says that he wants financial aid to ukraine from the european side to be equaled by the aid of the united states, because it is a european matter, and he does not

understand why the europeans are paying. less when it concerns them more, and there is a certain trap in that, because they can, and this, by the way, is not only a question of the present, a question of, say, their politics, if trump suddenly wins the presidential elections, they can demand from the europeans that they increase their spending on helping ukraine, otherwise they will not help ukraine, this is a new round of the game. as for the fact that trump told mike johnson that he is... ready to help ukraine in case of lending, this is absolutely not a new position, which means that this position still needs to be removed somehow, first of all, there are no indications that , that mike johnson can be sure that he will not face resignation if he raises the question about

ukraine to vote. because the position of maj. taylor green, who promised to put this issue to a vote, did not change after his meeting with trump. and everyone remembers perfectly. mike johnson probably remembers better than anyone that trump supported kevin mccarthy before his resignation from the post of speaker of the house of representatives, which did not change anything. the question arises again: what is the point of trump's public support for anyone, when this does not change the position of his supporters in the house of representatives? maybe there is some kind of cipher? maybe trump has? something else to say to them realized that they have to act differently, i don't know, it is to some extent a religious sect with its own attributes that are beyond our control and reach, but seriously speaking, there are several options for the development of events, the number one option is that johnson will still put a bill that has already been approved by the senate to a vote, the problem is that the more he

drags it... the less likely it will get votes in the house of representatives, because just a few weeks ago when this bill was approved by the senate, we said the whole problem is in johnson, because if he puts this project to a vote, he will definitely get support. now the situation is not so rosy, and not only for us. the problem is that a part of the republicans, who could previously have completely calmly voted for... aid to ukraine, may not do so now, because this issue is becoming toxic for their voters, especially where they listen very seriously to trump, listen to him about the loan and listen to his words, which we do not have don't give gifts to anyone, some of the democrats who quite obviously voted for this decision now don't want to help israel, and this is a joint bill, let me remind you, it means that the united states helps ukraine, israel and taiwan, and the democrats

can think that this issue toxic for their constituents who want israel to stop military actions in the gas sector completely, and if the israeli-iranian conflict starts now, we do not know at all what the consequences will be from a domestic political point of view it will lead to the american, so this is a problem, problem number one, problem number two, johnson is ready to make a decision that will have this loan in mind, it is probably relative. but this solution needs to be worked out and agreed on at the bipartisan level. the republicans themselves do not have a majority for this, because it is obvious that this radical part of them will not vote for it, because it is generally against any help to ukraine. here is manager taylor green, who speaks, who says that ukrainians kill priests, she will definitely not be in favor of it to vote, and all the people close to trump, so that

he does not talk about lending there. they won't vote for it, so it takes democrat votes, in order to have democrat votes, again, what should this package look like, should it include aid to israel? well, obviously yes, without the help of israel, this project is not needed by the republicans, they will probably find a certain part of the votes of the democrats, that's enough. but here is another question, and what else will be there if the republicans want to write there, as they usually do, some issues that, say, have to do with lpg, with his terminal in his home state, michael johnson, mike johnson. i'm not sure it will pass the house of representatives. then i don't really understand, it's necessary to sit down and calculate how long such a procedure can take. let's imagine that the bill needs to be developed next week by the deputy.