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, april 18, chernihiv has declared a day of mourning for those who died as a result of missile strikes by the russian federation on april 17, i.e. today. well, actually, kuleba, the minister of foreign affairs has already reacted to this. he said that innocent people would not have died if ukraine had sufficient air defense capabilities. we will not only talk about aid to ukraine with yevhen magda, executive director of the institute of world politics. mr. yevgeny, we congratulate you. glory to ukraine. glory to the heroes, good day, good day. so, there is a statement by kuleba that ukraine needs anti-aircraft defense, ukraine needs both anti-aircraft defense equipment and missiles for these installations, and we understand that now we are already beginning to feel the lack of these missiles. zelenskyi's latest statement that trybilsk kutets could have been saved if there were missiles is evidence of the fact that, well, today we see the tragedy in chernihiv, which also

upsets us... very much, what do you think, in principles, are these tragic pages of ukrainian life, they can somehow awaken the consciousness of our partners and allies, should we still appeal to some pragmatically economic, perhaps moments, yes some selfish moments, because we understand that empathy for ukraine, it was in a certain period of time, and now you already know, such a tough diplomatic game begins, you have my word. you know, i would not like to speak, but i warned, i said, but in the fall of last year, and i think your colleagues from other channels will not let me to lie, i said that ukraine should position itself as a wisteria in the struggle between good and evil, because it corresponds to the canons of the christian religion, it corresponds to a certain extent, obviously, to the canons of judaism, and we have to... fit into the western concept,

you see, we we should not be a good russia, a part of russia, even a former part of russia, this is not interesting to anyone, we should be a victim of aggression against which there is a war, unprovoked aggression, which has become the biggest war in the world today. of course, that means the president. and the minister of foreign affairs, and everyone who can convey information to our foreign partners, they are simply obliged to whine about it, complain, say that at any cost we have to do it, we have to get it here, well, no matter what it costs us , but at the moment it is quite difficult, well honestly difficult, because there are many challenges. and world politics,

it does not simply react even to some stimulus, it reacts primarily to what... we ourselves will create, and therefore we need to act persistently, we need to work not only with the diplomacy of emotions, but also with our partners, to create various coalitions, you have heard a lot of broadcasts or rebroadcasts of andrzej duda's statements that he is on the air... of the lithuanian public broadcaster that he is in favor of the complete restoration of the territorial integrity of ukraine, there were many those are for them, their marathon is broadcast, ours, i just don’t watch, so just in case,

we don’t watch either and we don’t know, i’m for mr. yevgeny, i just found this article just now in the middle, so that they don’t say later that this , that winter makes everything worse, time magazine wrote about the 100 most influential people in the world in 2024, i even now gave a link, my colleagues will show down there, if you scroll, in the leaders section, there are various people, donald tusk, for example, there is a republican, gregbot, and there is mohamed bin abdurrahman al thani , jack smith, so there is andriy yermak, an article about him, by the way, was written by the former head of nato andrs fokras. and he is on this list, i wonder why, say, president volodymyr zelenskyy is not on this list, but in general, explain it in a country that today in fact, it did not achieve many things that it should have achieved, due to the fact that diplomats and military leaders are being broken through the country,

many things are going wrong, and suddenly among the leaders, by the way, in the company of javier milem, the president of argentina , we see andrii yarmak. journalists themselves know that no journalist likes to be told what to write about, how to write, what to write, but if time magazine, which has certain traditions,

went and did it in this way, well, that means they see it that way, they imagine a system of government in ukraine, what anders fograsmosen wrote... does not surprise me at all, he is yarmak's advisor on public grounds, and they are promoting different ideas about nato there, how it is better for us to join nato, but this does not mean that there should be some well, this is not despair, not a reason for despair, because tomorrow there will be new informational reasons, a reason for despair is a blow to chernihiv, everything that time magazine wrote, well, this is their editorial policy, how can we influence it? you know, the most important thing here is why among the leaders, how well, on the one hand, it is good that ukraine is represented by andriy yermak, or even andriy yermak, i don’t know how it is there, but here hey, why not put dmytro kuleba among

the leaders, for example, let it be dmytro kuleba, then, if there someone is influencing something, be it rustem umerov, president zelensky, or everyone in the world has understood who is the leader here, simple. in ukraine, well, objectively, whether we want it or not, objectively, just de facto the world, and the people who compiled this rating of the magazine understood that this is exactly the case, he said that he is the president's manager, but, look, mr. yevgeny, let's not have much time, but we still want to have time to discuss the so -called chinese peace plan, how he is going to help restore peace for ukraine, olaf scholz came with sijin ping... asked him to influence russia. we understand that china can influence russia, but the question is: does china want to influence russia in general, or is china not interested in this at all? first, china is one of germany's leading economic partners. and

many different industries are located there to mercedes and bma, so olaf scholz flew there. everyone met there, firstly, secondly, i don't think that china can in any way show solidarity with any western country. on the issue of ending the russian-ukrainian war for the simple reason that china has its own position, the position of the world's second economy, and china is not just clinging to this position very strongly, it is trying to use it as a platform to become the number one economy , and the reluctance of the united states... to help ukraine more, in my opinion, is due to the fact that the united states

does not want this fragment of the soviet union, which is called the russian empire, that is, the russian federation, to fall apart, and accordingly the trans-ural part of china, russia, sorry, fell under the influence of china, they do not want this, they they are afraid of it, they arise, and therefore act accordingly. what do we get from this, how should we act in this regard, what should we do in this sense? i think we should be aware that there is only one real transformation algorithm which will be convincing for all our friends, enemies, partners, opponents, whoever you want, we have to carry out reforms within the state. transformations, transformations to carry out and broadcast them abroad, that is

, we have to say, we are transforming our state in such and such a way, and we achieve from this, we move on, we move, we do not move, well then, excuse me, and this is the only thing, in my opinion, what is important is the possible option, our emotional cries, disintegration, whatever he wants? they will not be perceived as we would like them to be. we must realize that we we do not live on the globe of ukraine. and accordingly , we should act so that the world pays attention to us in a positive context, and not in a negative one. very briefly, i would like to hear your opinion about what happened after the secret briefing of the intelligence committee. he called on congress to immediately approve aid to ukraine, what is so little to say that the committee, after listening to the secretive data, said

to approve it on the run, or to resign johnson altogether, or whatever, what could they say to us? well, intelligence, intelligence always has more opportunities, more chances, perhaps they have data on the preparation of russian logistics for the transfer of troops to ukraine, perhaps they have data on how the mobilization is progressing, how successful it is, perhaps there is information on how many foreign citizens have been naturalized to date in russia, where they are taking place preparation, i don't know, i only know that it is very difficult to covertly prepare any strike in the current conditions, well, to gather hundreds of tanks at one point of the conventional front. this is without it, it is practically impossible, which means that russia either expects

to push the front, or it has some others calculations that we do not have at the moment, thank you, thank you very much, evgeny magda, executive director of the institute of educational policy, was at vterispress, we are now going on a short break, after it we will continue, by the way, you can see the qr code on the screen, join to our gathering, well, a few minutes and we return. thinking about a new mattress, but here's what's stopping you. have you ever thought about what you sleep on? old mattresses accumulate not only dust, but also moisture that a person releases during sleep. a new mattress pad or bed linen only will be able to improve the mattress aesthetically. choose a camel orthopedic mattress and your sleep will become noticeably better. take advantage of the super offer for half the price. shop now and order a camel orthopedic mattress. instead of paying the full price of the mattress, pay

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zelensky's law on strengthening mobilization, which will enter into force on may 18. we understand that the mono majority came, pressed the buttons in order to vote for this law, but we have what we have, what is it called, how do you even evaluate why we needed to spend several months in order to finally adopt almost the same law that was proposed to us at the end of december? well, you know that european solidarity did not support this law. the project, not because we do not understand today, how important is the support of the ukrainian army, and precisely because we believe that this bill will not motivate ukrainians to defend our country in the ranks of the armed forces of ukraine, and secondly, society will not perceive this bill as a fair

bill, but these two things, motivation and justice, in my opinion, are key in order to... to support the ukrainian army, in order to support the armed forces of ukraine, there will be an army, there will be a state, so what does european solidarity consider inappropriate in this bill, the first is this the absence of a rule on the release of military personnel, or as it is often called, demobilization, we believe that every soldier, let it be 36 months, but he should see a very clear understanding that if this happens, that as a result of his... military skill, courage , and in the end, when the lord god will be on our side and will save the lives of our soldiers, then he will be able to make a decision through this period, whether to... give up on him or make some other decision, and we believe that such decisions, moral decisions, must be supported by financial motivation, it was a huge scandal after it was passed, and

the verkhovna rada eventually went to increase the cash payments by 70,000 to those in the trenches, but really these things were not supposed to be after the law, some separate resolution of the verkhovna rada, the government's instigation, these regulations . should have been in the law, and the second thing is justice, well, let someone explain to me the norm of the law, which says that one hundred percent law enforcement officers must have armor, let someone explain the norm of the law, where one hundred percent the official must have armor, well, and i believe that this not just a slap from the parliament, what deputies did to themselves, i believe that this is a discredit to the status of a people's deputy of the parliament, when in this law it was possible ... to reserve two assistants from each people's deputy, what is this for, to cause confusion in society, to demoralize

society, which is the relationship to some is one thing, and the relationship to others is different, so i say once again, we understand how important the army is in the country, after all, during the years 14-19, poroshenko laid the foundations of this army, which managed to restrain the enemy during a full-scale attack. .. aggression, but we believe that there are two things missing in this law: motivation, moral motivation, no one drove ukrainians on february 24 , 2022 into the ranks of the armed forces, to military commanders, the queues that were in front of the centers, territorial recruitment centers, they became the main motivation to stop the enemy, they gave the main faith in our victory with you, so we should not strengthen the army with such methods, not with such attitudes and not with such norms, we should strengthen the ukrainian army today. mr. leger, you know, i have such good stories in the book

the words that the wise see danger and avoid it, and fools are nowhere ordered, but the president said that we will not be able to defeat russia in a protracted resource war without the united states, because we simply have fewer people, well , this is an acknowledgment of the fact, about which oleksiy goncharenko has been saying for quite a long time, he said very correctly. words, it's not because we don't need to mobilize, it's just a fact that we can mobilize 500,000, and they have a million and 500, because there are simply more of them, so why don't i blow your nose, you said that they are reserving law enforcement officers, retired officers of a fairly young age, the circus, some other things, assistants, that is, people who live on the budget anyway, and the people who pay must also be mobilized, and then you have to look at things realistically so that there is no then the obvious was said after some time, he says, oh, you know, we have no income in the budget, because there are no people... who earn enough and pay and there is nothing to pay pensions , well, it was obvious for a long time that this is how it is it will be, we just didn't think, finally we leaned our heads against the wall and realized, well, it's not first class, well, maybe we need to understand and

calculate already now there should be an effective mobilization of the reinforcement of the army, the economy should work effectively, the economy should be able to overcome the wall, well, because our goal is victory or delaying time, we need to understand this, already 100% agree, because the income figures for march are only confirm your thesis. today we already receive less than 50% of what the state budget spends from our own revenues, tax and customs, this is a very dangerous trend for the country, we perfectly understand that the help of western partners is for us today is extremely important and sometimes even decisive, in the end, well, besides that , we must understand that this is not a war of the united states, of western europe, it is a war in... the country for our freedom and independence, and therefore, first of all, we must rely on our own strength , you know, today, unfortunately, no matter how bitter it may be, we atone for this

choice of 2019, when random people , unprepared, unprofessional, in the end even immature, came to offices where serious, responsible adult decisions have to be made, and i am very danger which of these in the offices today there are accusations aside for our western partners, oh, you didn’t give f-16, oh, and you don’t shoot down with your planes the way you shoot down over israel, i, to be honest, when i heard all these insults towards israel , for some reason i remembered when in the parliament we asked to vote on an appeal to congress to recognize ukraine as the most important ally of the united states. america outside of nato, as such a transition stage to nato, as such a step that would give us the opportunities that many countries have today, including israel, so what, and then

it wasn't there? voices of the people's servants, and now you blame someone, but i say again and again, today is not the time to look for the guilty, today is the time to unite and make professional decisions necessary for the country, decisions that would, first of all, unite society, secondly, we did not lose our faith in victory, and thirdly, they were really a great support and help for the ukrainian army, there will be an army, there will be a state, we would like to still have time... to also discuss the recent news that andriy yermak, he entered the list of the 100 most influential people in the world for 2024, the former nato secretary general anders von rasmussen wrote a few words about him, he said that andriy yeremak plays the role of a decisive leader and a person who plays a central role in ensuring the work of the government, that's how he he said about him, well, but as our president is currently president zelensky, have we perhaps

missed something? read and listen to smart people, they probably know a lot, it's very unfortunate, it's very unfortunate when today all the power is concentrated in the office president, it is very unfortunate when today western democracy is told between the lines that there is a possible threat of the formation of a dictatorship in ukraine, it is very unfortunate when bloggers close to... the office say that we need a strong, concentrated government, and then we will win, this is not the way ukraine should go, we will win only together with the western world, and the western world will support us when we have freedom of speech, when we have the rule of law, when we have those values , which united different nations, different peoples in nato and in the european union, we have no right to retreat from

these. values, we have no right to exchange ourselves for some temporary ephemeral benefits, only a democratic ukraine can defeat great russia. you know, the most interesting thing is that in this time magazine, there is giorgia maloney, the prime minister of italy, there is donald tusk, the polish, again, the polish prime minister, and simply, well, people who have positions, everything has disappeared from us. the connection is yes. there are still a number of politicians, but these are politicians who have or have been elected, well mainly elected positions, and here we have a person whose actual position is not even spelled out in the constitution, but only in the law on the president, i mean andriy yermak, but without question, maybe he is a really influential leader, but ukrainians then need to explain hu in ukrainian politics, well, it's probably very unfortunate and very dangerous, you know, we will be

strong. when the institutions of power, the president, the parliament, the government, the army, the commander-in-chief of the armed forces will function in our country, and all this will not be replaced by a single structure, as you said, there is not even an office of the president in the constitution, this is a very dangerous trend, and the point is not even that someone is smart, someone may not have sufficient abilities, the problem is that ukraine must comply with democratic... principles, which united the countries in nato and the eu, only this road will lead us to victory. thank you very much, oleg senyut, people's deputy of ukraine, was with us. betteri espresso, well, but vasyl and i are already saying goodbye to you, at least in such a company as today, vasyl zima, today he will continue his work, yes, great vasyl zima's broadcast will be in literally an hour 's time, so wait, well, for today we are already

finishing working for you in this one. studio, we'll see each other tomorrow, we'll be in the same company, at 2:10 p.m., right after the news release, so be with espresso. then our colleagues will continue. and this is news. a rescue operation is underway in chernihiv. previously, the russians attacked the city with three iskanders. our correspondent dmytro didora is at the scene. dmitry, my congratulations, tell us updated information about the consequences of the terrorist attack by muscovites.