in a word, an interesting story. 9:00, in a few seconds. nationwide minute of silence in ukraine. we honor the memory of all those who died because of the russian occupiers. let's observe a moment of silence in memory of the ukrainian military and civilian citizens of ukraine who died in the war started by russia.

hello, this is svoboda ranok, i'm oleg galiv, and then we'll talk about the most important things. in poland, they do not rule out the possibility of deporting ukrainian citizens who are conscripted into the military, the financial times writes about this with a link. to the minister of defense of poland, why is it? will depend, and are they really ready to take such a step in europe? on the other hand , germany states that citizens of ukraine who receive or extend a temporary residence permit in this country do not necessarily have to have a valid ukrainian foreign passport for this. this was reported by vytanya doychevele. well, representatives of ukraine alyona alyona and jerry hale went to malmö, where the eurovision song contest 2024 will be held. the opening of the contest is planned. on may 7

, the participants of the first semi-final will perform on this day, among them representatives from ukraine with the song tereza and maria. below the broadcast , we have a chat where you can share your thoughts, in particular, what you think about the future of ukrainian men in europe, in particular, whether the eu countries will really return them home legally, it is illegal, what are the ways to do this and in general, how do you assess this development? the minister of agricultural policy, mykola solskyi, who submitted his resignation the day before, this morning in court, where a preventive measure is being chosen for him , solskyi's resignation became known the day before from the page of the ministry of agrarian policy on facebook, and the photo of his statement was published by the speaker of the verkhovna rada, ruslan stefanchuk. solsky called his resignation, i quote: the right step, but added that if the verkhovna rada decides that he should continue working, then he is ready to do so. i would like to remind you that the day before, the higher anti-corruption court did not choose a preventive measure for solsky, and this

morning there is already a decision in this direction, and our correspondent iryna sysak works in the court, she will tell us the details. hi iro. hello, oleg. so what is the court's decision. so, this morning at 8:00 am. the supreme anti-corruption court announced its decision. so, detention until june 24 with the possibility of a bail of more than 75 hryvnias, the higher anti-corruption court announced today such a decision regarding the preventive measure against mykola solsky, the hearing lasted two days, and today we already have a decision, thus the court partially satisfied the request of the prosecutors, who requested the arrest, or the alternative of 200 million hryvnia bail, they reported about this the day before and stated that this amount would be able to...

to avoid all risks, however, the court determined the amount of the bail, as we can see, it is almost three times smaller, what mykola solsky himself thinks about the court decision, we have not yet managed to get his position, because the journalists listened to the announcement of the court verdict, being in the courtroom and watching online broadcast, so we did not have the opportunity to be directly... next to him and we did not have the opportunity to ask him this question, that is why mykola solskyi, who was supposed to be detained, has not come out to the journalists, and we also do not know his position defenders, we remain waiting here under the court building, maybe one of the lawyers will come out and tell us about whether they plan to file, for example, an appeal against this decision and how they generally evaluate the decision of the higher anti-corruption court in relation to it. case, at the beginning of the week

nabu announced the denunciation of mykola solskyi, he is the former chairman of the agrarian committee of the verkhovna rada, and now the minister of agricultural policy, for taking over state land for... more than 291 million uah and also for trying to take over land for another 190 million uah. according to the investigation, we are talking about land in sumy oblast, it is said that the participants of the scheme allegedly destroyed the documents that gave the right to use the land to two state enterprises, and then, with the help of their people in the state cadastre, transferred this land to predetermined people who allegedly had the right to receive bezos. paid land, but the condition for obtaining this land was the signing of the lease transfer of land to a private agricultural holding, this is the position of the investigation, but solsky himself says that the events relate to the period of 2017-2018, and at that time he was still a lawyer and did not hold any

public positions, and on the eve of april 25 , mykola solskyi announced that he was resigning, wrote a statement about it and that the statement had been received... the head of the verkhovna rada, ruslan stefanchuk, confirmed to the parliament and said that this statement will be considered at the next meeting of the verkhovna rada councils olezhe, here are the details. thank you very much irina. iryna sysak, rfe/rl's correspondent from the courtroom, in fact, where a preventive measure was chosen for szczecin minister mr. solsky, but we know that he has written a resignation letter, which should be considered by ukrainskyi parliament. difficult question. yes, the representative of the us state department in brussels , daniel. saizek commented on the suspension by the ukrainian consulates of providing services to men of draft age. he said this in a comment to radio svoboda. there is no decision by the american government to return the ukrainian men or not. however, they respect the right of the ukrainian authorities to define their own policy in this matter -

saizyk said. it is important that europe and to some extent the usa also welcomed ukrainians who decided that they and their families needed to leave. with of ukraine. at the same time, it is correct that the government of ukraine needs to intensively and seriously study the situation and the situation of people for the armed forces, this is natural, and the us government respects the right of the government of ukraine to determine its policy. meanwhile, in germany they say that they can allow ukrainian men to stay in ukraine, even if they do not have a valid ukrainian passport. this was reported by an unnamed representative of the berlin senate in deutschevela's comment. according to him, if ukraine does not extend the validity of such passports, germany can issue them a travel document. however, this practice will act as an exception, and positive decisions on such requests from male ukrainian citizens will depend on the weight of their reasons for traveling to germany. in general, currently, despite the decision of the ukrainian foreign ministry to suspend services for men of legal age, the rules for their

stay in germany remain unchanged, the interlocutor of the publication emphasized. presumably, we are talking about the so-called gray passport, which, as unian writes, is a document that gives the right. stay for a foreigner in the country, even without a valid passport. in different countries different rules for obtaining it, so in germany, for example, it is a foreigner's travel document, which is issued for no more than three years. its owner can travel in the european union for up to 90 days without a visa, but the gray document does not replace an identity card, for this it is also necessary to issue a residence permit in the form of a plastic card. but in other eu countries, they are thinking about the return of ukrainian men home and... what does the european council on refugees say about this, our colleague olena abramovych will tell us, this correspondent of radio svoboda in brussels. they are unlikely to be deported by force, but taking away social assistance or even the right to work is an option, yes, clarified the discussions on

how to deal with ukrainian men of military age in europe, the minister of defense of lithuania. according to eurostat, as of january of this year , more than 4 million ukrainians lived in the countries of the european union. adult men of them are 860,000. the largest number of ukrainians are in germany, followed by poland, and while in berlin they said that the innovation from the ukrainian authorities will not affect the temporary defense, in poland they say, they are ready to help the ukrainian authorities replenish the ranks of the troops. i think that many poles are indignant when they see young ukrainian boys in hotels and cafes and hear how much effort we have to make. ukrainians will massively update their documents in march next year. it is not yet clear how exactly, since temporary protection will expire, but usually passports are needed to extend a residence permit, although, according to a

migration law lawyer, the main thing in the current directives is prior residence in the territory of ukraine. if you have a passport, but it has expired, that does not mean. that you lose your citizenship, they can tell you: yes, we need a valid passport, and then it will be a more complicated procedure for you, either judicial or administrative. there are already precedents when people have confirmed their identity through the court after arriving in the eu without documents, says the lawyer, meaning that most likely, the ukrainian decision will create more bureaucratic work in the eu countries, and much will depend on the political will of a specific country. there are many countries, for example, as in belgium, there is a huge lack of labor force, and the labor market, it is not filled, and of course, in such countries there will be more options to er... get a permit or legalize, for example, on labor grounds. according to lawyers, in

some countries there is a practice of protecting men who, in the case of returning home, are obliged to fight, but this applies to those cases where the army commits war crimes, that is, for such reasons , men from russia, ukrainians can now be given this option is unlikely to be suitable, although there is already one such precedents, last year in italy protection was given to a ukrainian man... based on some reports of war crimes, but still in most cases it is a refusal. olena abramovich, mark hajduk, radio liberty, brussels. we also asked oleksiy skorbach, a lawyer on migration law, and now an officer of the armed forces of ukraine, whether it is really possible to expel or deport ukrainian men who are in military service from european countries. this is how he explains the situation from the point of view of migration law. what deportation or expulsion of foreigners in any country is accepted by decisions

of that country, and not due to changes in legislation in ukraine. second, no one canceled the international protection of ukrainians, regardless of gender. persons who have received protection, refugee status, or temporary or additional status cannot be returned to a country where they are in danger. military actions are one of the key elements in determining additional protection according to international norms, that is, there is a real possibility that those countries. who decide on deportation will be simple absorbed in court cases about deportation, appeals, etc., that is, if it is clearly indicated, there will be a lot of trouble and inconvenience due to the change in the provision of consular services for conscripts, because communication with one's own state is complicated, but the decision on deportation, expulsion, termination a residence or stay permit is the exclusive competence of the authorities of a specific country, the decision of a foreign country is not associated with a change. migration rules in ukraine, well, we will talk about this topic from the point of view of the state of ukraine, what are its visions,

what are her views, ihor friz, this is a people's deputy of ukraine, the head of the subcommittee on the activities of justice bodies, bodies of punishment and probation, the committee of the verkhovna rada of ukraine on legal policy , is joining our broadcast at this moment, i congratulate you, good morning, sir igor, let's start with the main thing right away, whether ukraine will send requests to european countries, for example poland, regarding the return of ukrainian...men of conscription age, what grounds could there be for this, or the basis for an example, this will be an unupdated foreign passport, you know what they say in the committee that government officials report, so explain, the recently adopted law on mobilization contains an exhaustive list of sanctions, restrictions and actions of the authorities, as well as the actions of individuals, on which it distributes in terms of the need to update relevant information, such as for persons of conscription age, for military obligation. persons who are in the territory of ukraine, who are outside

the borders of ukraine. the problem that has arisen today is that, have limited the right of persons who have moved to their permanent place of residence, primarily those who are temporarily outside ukraine, to e-e, there is no need to update data, military service in the electronic cabinet or. in the tsc, if before the adoption of the specified law, persons who are permanently residing abroad, i.e. have practically closed all their cases in ukraine and have been abroad for many years, did not need additional registration, additional data update in embassies, in the tsc, in relation to his current phone number and place of residence, i.e. necessary information. in order to receive a corresponding summons, or for the state of ukraine to have an understanding of what

mobilization resource it is, what mobilization resource it has, as of today, and such persons who have a permanent place of residence in ukraine abroad, ukrainians must update such data, in which way they should do it is another question, unfortunately, to date , the electronic office of the debtor of the vidarbha does not work, but the law, let's be frank, has not entered into force, it only enters into force. from may 18, and only in theory , from this moment on, there should be certain restrictions, which have already been introduced by the cabinet of ministers today and are implemented by the relevant consulates. the fact that it is not possible to renew the document on the basis of which a person is staying abroad, first of all, raises the question of the country in which he is temporarily staying and the person who permanently resides in the country in which he permanently resides, namely the presence of a verified and valid document is precisely the connection with that country, c

which you are in and gives you the opportunity to use all the services and possibly... residence in the country that granted you temporary or permanent shelter, so most of all it is the national legislation of that country that will determine the question of whether they will have claims against such people, and the following actions, subsequent sanctions, whether or not it will lead to deportation, the question of any appeals in ukrainian legislation to other states where ukrainians are temporarily or permanently staying, for the purpose of their deportation or for the purpose of bringing them to ukraine or the suspension of granting them temporary or permanent asylum, at least neither the law on mobilization, nor the current resolution, because it has already entered into force of the cabinet of ministers, does not contain, that is, in essence, the state of ukraine will not apply, but i am just reading how you work in the parliament, in which groups, for example, you are the chairman, you are part of the parliamentary group of relations with

poland itself, and in particular in poland they have already started talking about the fact that they will help ukraine. to return conscripted men, let's perhaps clarify this what a moment: you say that it is important for ukraine to understand what kind of mobilization resource it actually possesses, i.e. how many men of conscription age there are in general, but what will this understanding give if, for example, a man is in the territory of europe legally, he will update his data, but he has no opportunity, no need, no desire, let's call it what we want to return to ukraine in order to go to the front, why does ukraine have these data, why does it have them? at least in this case, ukraine will know that the specified person is outside the borders ukraine and the state should not, perhaps should not count on him, in terms of the fact that at a specific, rapid moment in history, he will be called upon and will defend, fulfill his constitutional duty, defend ukraine, that is , he will, perhaps not it will be possible to calculate, or

it will be possible to calculate with some real prospect, if the state resolves the issue of the return of the specified persons to... that is , this requires both a certain time and certain procedures, which must be resolved at the international level with the countries that provided temporary asylum for ukrainians, this is the first question, the second question, let's not forget, we still need to determine, for sure, what is possible, i'm just predicting, in order to bring to justice the relevant persons who left illegally, who crossed the border of ukraine in a way that makes it impossible for them to return legally. it is possible that ukraine will return such persons who violated the law and left the law with the aim of bringing them to justice, and perhaps sooner than all its application to them of the measures of the mobilization procedure regarding their fulfillment of the corresponding duty. and what can these measures be? let's stop here, that is, they can be forcibly returned in case ukraine proves that ukraine cannot forcibly,

only the country in which they are located can forcibly deport them. that is, if ukraine, i am hypothetically just coming up with some idea, yes, it will apply with the aim of returning such people to us, because they left illegally, and the country will say in which they they are breaking through, okay, they really left ukraine illegally, let's review the legality of their stay on the territory of, for example, poland itself, but these are basically procedural actions, these are certain procedures, these are relevant changes to the national legislation of those countries, because they made a decision . in terms of guaranteeing the stay of the specified persons in the territory of one or another country, therefore, if it is necessary to stop this functionality, it is probably necessary to take the following steps in the procedural legislative field as well. mr. yuri, but by in essence, kabin did this, he does not give men the opportunity to update their documents abroad, that is, those men who, for example , illegally crossed the border of ukraine, entering the territory of the european union,

will not update them, will remain without documents, and this will give european countries the opportunity to consider their the future on their territory and conditionally think about their return to the territory of ukraine? i would not be so categorical, i would still wait for the implementation and entry into force of the law on mobilization, specifically in terms of updating data. after may 18, we will see that the electronic register will become operational, which will enable such persons who cannot, or do not want to, or in some other way are not in the territory of ukraine, to update their data, including via snappy. but this is ukraine, or the possibility of such tsnaps will be provided to embassies, because the embassy, ​​if they opened, for example, an electronic document for obtaining a passport, which prevents the opening of the corresponding center of the tsnap. who will be able to or give the authority to the tsnap to the relevant consular department of one or another country, where a person will be able to update his information and his data, and yet i would

expect the possibility that from may 18 an electronic office will be operational, which will provide an opportunity for individuals without physically contacting this or that relevant state body or service, update your data in tcc. mr. igor, i want to ask you, what is the general position of the committee on legal policy? solomiya bobrovska from the committee on... security, defense and intelligence was on our air a few days ago, she said that the ministry of foreign affairs implemented these temporary restrictions even before the entry into force of the updated law on mobilization, without the approval , in fact, without warning of the committee on national security, and they said, in particular, slomi bobrovska, that they would call representatives of the ministry of foreign affairs to themselves to the committee to clarify for them why this happened and why it caused the slogan that caused it, the business policy committee considers such a decision of the ministry of foreign affairs to be legal or illegal, there are some reasons to believe that this decision violates people's rights in some way, who... are abroad, specifically ukrainian citizens, well, there is no legal policy subject, not even a functional one or another, this does not belong to the subject

of the award, this is a human rights committee, this is a different issue, i am not authorized to speak from members of the committee, not from the committee as a whole, but i want to remind you, yes, but i want to remind you that when the law on mobilization was adopted, i, together with other deputies, was in the walls of the parliament and put the relevant amendments to the vote, which will make it impossible... even in principle, a procedure, a similar procedure, when a person will be limited in his rights, including the right to receive consular services and consular documents. you understand, the issue of separating such people from ukraine, in my opinion, should be much higher and much more important for the country than obtaining this or that information, which is necessary and which is missing today in the relevant state bodies, in order to understand what it is the number of people and whether it really... affects the understanding of that mobilization resource, i would like to receive the statistics of the ministry of defense, what is the number of people who do not update their data, what is the number of people, they do not know physically

where, where these people are and how to contact them, this is a key issue, the subject of legal , the legal policy committee makes decisions and is guided by completely different - let's say, state, state interests in terms of the fact that these are courts, this is a matter for judges, so when will there be a question... appeal of this or that issue in the courts of the work of judges and to which court one should go to appeal this or that procedure, this is a kind of competence, but next to that, the deputies on migration law, lawyers, excuse me, on migration law and those lawyers who deal with such an issue, say that somehow it may lead to the submission of a lawsuit to the european court of human rights, if, for example , ukrainian citizens will be restricted abroad, in particular those countries that will have claims against ukrainian citizens where they are currently located, so in this context. also questions may arise, i thank you for joining in and explaining your own vision first and foremost, how it looks from a legal point of view, and what we were told that ukraine will not forcibly return,

because there is currently no such opportunities to forcibly return ukrainian citizens from eu territory. ihor friz, people's deputy of ukraine, servant of the people, chairman of the subcommittee on activities of justice bodies, penitentiary and probation bodies, committee of the verkhovna rada of ukraine on legal policy, the topic we talked about last several days, one of the most discussed is the return of ukrainian men abroad and restrictions on consulates. services for them are currently temporary, it is not clear how it will be. well, our correspondents working at the front asked the military what they thought about the situation with restrictions on consular services for men of conscription age abroad, in particular in poland, a military man with the call sign "crazy" said that he had discussed this issue with his comrades, and here's what he says: no one has any questions here, no one wants to leave away from the family, from their own, and go here and there to sit, well, if not everyone. it's a pleasure to sit here, but if even they went, well, how should i say, they could even, well, you see how the border blockade was,

they could join in, well, in the neblo de blockade of the border, for example, well, this is my point of view , and it turns out that when they need to, they gather, you see, now for their own purposes, and as for what they need, if, as they now comment on it. what for, well, for their rights, yes, let's say, for their rights, then they ing there as much as there is 300 of them gathered, well, everyone has their own concessions, well, i’m not very much in favor of this, so, yeah, for me it’s normal, well, yes, because it’s not clear, yes, of course, i’ll tell you, because when there were, i understood people when they left there in the 2000s or there in the 90s, for example, well, there are more than 90. and when it started on a full scale, there were many acquaintances, but they returned abroad and left their families, here they did not understand the situation when a person, on the contrary,

from here and... scratches, let's say so, and we continue to discuss the announced topic, lukash adamsky is now joining the freedom of the morning broadcast, he is a doctor of history and a political analyst, deputy director of the mirushevsky dialogue center, i congratulate you, good afternoon, mr. lukash, what about ukrainian men in poland, they need to pack their bags and prepare for that they will be forcibly expelled from the country, what are your forecasts, what is the polish government ready to do, in particular after the statements of the polish government officials? well, i do not know the statements of polish government officials who would say that ukrainians from poland, ukrainian men have to leave, you probably mean the statement of the minister of defense, where he said that he would help the ukrainian authorities to return men conscripted to ukraine, this is if you directly quote it and it is not clear that this statement has any basis, maybe you a person who researches more the polish mood, the mood of the polish authorities, you can tell us, i...

defense, in particular, it should be noted that this is not the minister of justice, this is not a representative of some other government, that is, a ministry that can directly deal with such issues, and it was the minister of defense that also raised the question of why the minister of defense comments on such issues, because he does not deal with issues of conditional extradition there, nor issues of deportation and so on, but how important are those ukrainian citizens who crossed the polish labor market for ukraine , let's say so, and the legal territory of ukraine with poland, the border and illegal in front of, how much of the polish market, how do you see it, what do you think, what do you think, what do the studies say are needed in the labor force from ukraine, and is it beneficial for poland itself to have on their territory there was a large number of ukrainian citizens, let's ask like this, well, maybe i'll start with this second part of your question, because it's simple here, but i have to correct you a little, we literally still have a minute and a half left, so i'll ask for a shorter one, okay, i.e. poland is interested at the same time in having ukrainians stay, because the labor market really demands it, and the call...