crow, seal, wallflowers -- >> dana: that sounds like pharmaceutical ad. >> greg: we have to go. have a great weekend. welcome to "red eye." i'm greg gutfeld. president and founder of your heart. if you leave me i will kill if you leave me i will kill >> don't fake the funk or your nose will grow. coming up, gingrich, paul, debate round up next. plus, a tsa agent finds weed in a passenger's bag and doesn't confiscate it, but leaves a note. some say come on, son. it is called a tease, people. and finally our el -- are ellen degeneris and porshe daw gross see developing a pet

food? it is so out of our league. >> let's do this. >> we will do this. >> i was talking to greg probst. >> that was mean. >> bye. let's welcome our guest. well, she's so hot that yule logs gather around her to keep her warm. i am here with meet the boss .tv. and if hilarity was a chimney, fat man in red suits would enter him every december. he looks marvelous against that backdrop. and he is a commi you could bring to mommy. and for bill schulz who may or may not be dead, writer john devore. and he is so bright that lost sailors follow him home at night. sitting right next to me, kind of, kevin williams. he is author of the politically incorrect guide to socialism. delightful. no pinch tonight. >> just me. >> taking a day off. so did he get a pass for flying with grass?

rapper freddy gibbs, ask your parents who it is, allegedly didn't get stopped for pot by airport security. but he tweeted a pic this week of a bag of marijuana next to a tsa note of inspections that says, quote, come on, son. the likely commuter also wrote on twitter, quote again, the tsa found my weed and let me keep it. they left me a son, come on, son, lol. what a nark. this happened after another agent left a note saying, get your freak on, girl in the bag of a female passenger with an intimate item. ie, something with batteries and not a flash flashlight. the agency said, quote, tsa takes all allegations of inappropriate conduct seriously and investigating this claim. for more let's go to "red eye" national coryespondent, casper the bath loving dog.

>> that's sarah jessica parker. i was just thinking about her. i love that dog. i have to ask you, you know, the tsa gets a lot of grief for their actions. but in this case, aren't they america's heroes? >> i couldn't agree more, greg. and it is the first time i have ever said that to you. >> yes. i get notes from the tsa all the time. sometimes they hand them to me after they pat me down. they say things like, what a groovy man bag. or, nice package. if i was ups i would stamp you and deliver you. first of all i love that we rbling the rapper didn't do this himself saying, come on, son, on his own tsa voucher. and i think the gullibility of the public is matched by the

awesomeness of the tsa. >> the thing is, if in fact he made that up, then we would not have an a block story, so we chose to over look the possibility that this could be a fake story. and wouldn't you say that is kind of heroic? >> i would. i would say trusting a stoned rapper to give you your lead story is one of the bravest thing your show has ever done or any show on tv. if i don't smell a peabody, i think i do. >> i hope a peabody is some kind of award and not a euphemism. assuming the story is true, which i will for the purposes of this show, does it prove there is one set of laws for citizens and another set for rappers? >> that's always the case. we have all of this nonsense living under the rule of law and not the rule of men. but the fact is you always live under a system where you rely on the discretion of people and power. i like that the tsa did this. i also doubt it because my experience with the tsa is

these guys would steel the weed and then go and smoke. it most are high on-the-job it seems like. one of the worst security forces in the country, not as bad as the atf, but they are pretty bad. you can believe the story or not believe the story. but i hope it is true. >> i hope so too. i hope for a lot of things. sometimes i hope you get hurt, but that's wrong. might this be the most sensible tsa agent ever? by the way, i like the tsa. i fly a lot. i think they are trying to do their best. just covering my bases. >> i showed up to the airport without my driver's license and i thought, i can't get on the plane. they were so nice to me. i just had to empty my wallet. >> of course you did. this is a better story than the rap -- rapper story. they let a hot girl on without identification because you were hot. >> they call it the christmas bonus. >> apparently i met another

woman with nothing on her, no wallet, no anything. she had to play 20 questions with her partner on the other line of the phone and that's how they determined she was who she said she was. >> i have a feeling if it was john devore, a homely grotesque male they wouldn't have done this. but you -- i don't have identification. okay, do you mind if we frisk you? okay. it will be invasive. >> it was a woman. the moral of the story was they were nice and professional and they helped me out of what could have been a hairy situation. >> i'm kidding. don't answer that question. that was a disgusting question on my part. i will do a preemptive apology. >> greg. >> john, john, john, john. here is the thing. it is not a bomb or a knife. no one will go down on that plane because of a gram or ounce or whatever of pot, right? >> this guy is a hero in the war against the war on drugs. a terrible government policy.

i think everyone in america agrees with that. he is a hero. the tsa is the coolest, funkiest beurocracy. >> i came up with the idea scpirks wanted to run it past you. why does the united states create a beurocracy? it is called the office of discretion. and it is not a judge, but it is a really cool dude who judges things, and it is stuff like this that goes to the office of discretion. and it is like, it is pot. wouldn't that make the world a better place? >> i think putting matthew mcconaghey in any position of authority over my life is an outstanding idea. i have been spending the last few idle moments of this girl on girl frisk as deeply and richly ace -- as i can. i would like to hear more about that. >> i think you are absolutely right.

and i want to ask you something. was that a mistake? should i let it go? >> talk about invasive. >> okay. in the break i will talk more about it. i want one more question before i move on. if this is true, isn't the real nark the rapper about bragging because it will cost this guy his job? >> how do you not talk about it? >> you got away with it. he got away with it. >> you need to start talking about discretion. >> if i was a girl who had a vibrator and the go get your freak on girl, that's creepy. >> as opposed to the uncreepy side of the tsa? >> that person was just being sex positive. >> you go girl. >> what makes you think it was a guy? >> i want to move on, but we hillary visit this frisking thing.

from weed to weeding out. will the last debate hold any weight? yes. thursday night's fox news hosted forum was the 71st and final one before iowa gets caucusy on january 3rd. the candidate's last chance to romance the fine people of the buckeye state. and they did an okay job. mitt romney was calm, cool and collected which sadly means no highlights for you, mitt. newt gingrich gave history lessons. >> first of all, have they studied jefferson who in 1802 abolished 18 out of 35 judges. 18 of 35 were abolished. >> something highly criticized. >> not by anybody in power in 1802. >> he would be a great trivial pursuit partner. >> and for rick perry? >> there are a lot of folks out there who said tim tebow wouldn't be a good envelope -- nfl quarterback. they say he doesn't have the right throwing mechanisms and not playing the game right. he won two national

championships and that looked good. we were the national champions in job creations. am i ready for the next level? let me tell you. i hope i am the tim tebow of the iowa caucuses. >> throwing mechanism, could have said arm. he is like the lost brother from bonanza. and dressed like she came from a logans run fan fiction party, michele bachmann was extra fiesty. >> i think it is outrageous to continue to say over and over through the debate that i don't have my facts right. as a matter of fact, i do. i am a serious candidate for the -- for president of the united states. >> that was good. and then there is the guy with two first names, ron paul, who made some sense. >> i would be a different ind could of person. i wouldn't be looking for more power. everybody wants to be a powerful executive and run things. i as a president wouldn't want to run the world.

and i don't want to run the economy. >> and of course he then did make sense. >> all we are doing is promoting their desire to have the defense minister for israel who said that -- if he were in iran, he would probably want a nuclear weapon too because they are surrounded for geo polit cal reasons. that's an understanding. the fact that they are surrounded, they have a desire. and how do we treat people when they have a nuclear weapon? with a lot more respect. >> all i was asking was where the light bulbs were. you could have said aisle 7. and then jon huntsman was talking about china, but it is too boring to tell you. and rick santorum was there. >> are you a jerk. >> that's him. >> how is the rest of the world react together gop race?

>> it has been around a longtime. >> it takes a longtime to make change. >> i can watch that every day for the rest of my life and not care. i can't expect you to watch the debates because you are a very busy nightclub legend, comedian and actor. so is there anybody that stood out? i thought it was a strong debate. i don't think it moved the needle anywhere. i didn't get uh hold of my dealer. but what did you make of it? >> i was going watch, and then i remembered i was cool. i had stuff to do. last night was a fashion disaster for a lot of them. i don't know who is giving rick san for rum his ties. but he looked like the dude at the kiwanis club with too many beers.

ron paul looked like he was selling used cars somewhere in texas which freaked me out and i have been to lake palestine and it is divided. i don't think anybody made points. i understand mitt romney is running for president, but a lot more people would be comfortable with him as a game time host. >> by the way, you are a game show host, so you would know. you are quite good at this. i have to tell you, i thought -- and kevin i will go to you. i thought this was a substantive -- i wish i could say that word instead of sounding like an i had yesterday -- like an idiot, debate. they were going after stuff from fast and furious. i thought michele bachmann was really strong against newt. i thought newt was newt and mitt didn't make any mistakes. what do you make of it? >> i think bachman has been good through awful this stuff. but when you feel the need to proclaim your seriousness, it

is like the hot chick talking about how hot she is, and nobody will brig believe that. the debates have been pretty strong. there is a lot of nice intellectual back and forth. there is some real disagreement and real different spur tech tiffs -- per eek spec tiffs -- perspectives and they have real disagreements. it has been a constructive thing. >> people say, anna, vut republicans ripping each other apart which will help obama in the future. but actually this is important. it is a primary. this is what has to happen. i thought everybody came off better than -- i thought it was a nice end debate. >> i thought everyone was respectful of each other. i agree with you. bachman did a great job, and i think she had to defend herself. newt was being condescending and dismissive of her. >> he was saying, great, you're back. i don't think he would have said that and i hate doing it. i am not a pc freak, but i felt it was a woman thing. >> i agree. he was belittling her.

>> i got the stair. >> it was more of a tin foil hat and gardasil vaccine thing. she has been crazy about it. >> and i think what it showed and -- is he came off jrky and that's why romney should have gone after him. that's when gingrich looked bad. he looked like in a hottie way that turned people off from gore. >> good point. john, major boy rick perry -- >> my boy? why not ron paul? he is a texan and smart. >> ron paul is like a chocolate covered piece of fruit. >> i like chocolate, but i hate fruit? >> ron paul is -- i think he -- i don't know what to do with that. i am scared. >> i apologize. there are a lot of i think

center democrats. there are a lot of people from the spectrum attracted to paul. i don't think last night was his best performance. i think he looked a little confused, and i just love that he goes up there though. i love his anti-war stance and i love that he challenges his own party. and i will say that as a democrat we don't have someone in the party who is directly saying stuff that challenges us. i am excited by that kind of intellectual pose. from debates to delete had, will spam help elect bam? they are launching an effort to collect addresses by asking supporters to submit info about the righties they know. a message on obama's stwo -- 2012 website quote, we are giving uh chance to have fun by letting them know they inspired you to make a donation to the obama campaign. simply enter their names and

addresses and we will send a message letting them know we inspired them to donate. not right you morons. they now have a ton of e-mails they can do with and as they please. roger that. >> this is the world we live in, people. a world i am considering leaving somehow. isn't this whole idea based on kind of a mate that democrats have republican friends and republicans have democrat friends that exchange e-mails? >> sure. >> awkward pause. >> i think asking republicans to get on the internet is an interesting call.

a lot are on myspace. we are dragging them kicking and screaming into the new millenium. it is the only thing he has done in two years that is cute and funny. my question is, why are republicans bummed out? what has he not done for you guys? i don't think anybody with a nobel peace prize starts a war. when he walks into the oval office does the peace prize go, i don't feel good. >> i agree with you on 70% of what you said. the guy has been -- the funny thing is, i -- i think he has been excellent on terror and he kept gitmo open, killed osama bin laden which i'm sure you are happy about because i am happy about that. that's about it i think. there is something else, he keeps smoking. i like that. is this a good strategy or a

bad strategy? >> it is a dumb strategy. i think they have a bad sense of humor. it is not funny at all. i would upset any i would send this to. i am donating because of you and i gave your e-mail away so you will get spam until the end of time. >> it is a great way to get into the heads of republicans. >> remember the attack watch thing where if they said things about the president, report them here. these guys are creepy. they can't help themselves. >> i don't know. i think that it is a belief that snarkiness is funny when it is not really snarky. >> they would have luck saying give us your republican friends e males. >> we have to move on. should average guy usas approach -- approach beautiful women in bars? we will talk about her book, if you even look at me i will stab you in the face. 17 weeks on the top. congratulations. is college worth it?

what about collage?

should you ab abstain from the candycane? and can peppermint take a hint? at a massachusetts school, is there any other kind, christmas candies are criminal along with sodas, cookies and other sugary snacks. parties should be sugar free meaning kids should bring fruit, unsweetened juices and popcorn and raisens which i believe come from rats. but officials say it is not political, it is physical. their beef is kids who are obese. the super inen it dent telling a radios station saying we are not trying to take the christmas -- the enjoyment out of lives. we are trying to act responsible. while the kids can't eat sweets, they can at least

exchange presents. >> maybe they are obese. this war on christmas is outrageous. it is another example of schools trying to destroy something we hold dear to our fabric. >> it is disgusting. when i went to grade school we drank coca-cola out of a can in front of people and we were unapologetic about it. we held christmas in our hearts by exchanging lavish gifts with teachers. we didn't get to have sex with steveers the way -- with teachers the way the kids do now. i never had hot teachers. i recent this generation eating healthy. i recent the war on christmas. i think there should be a war

on all holidays. if we are going to do christmas, let's do arbor day. trees are harbingers for birds and other vermin. >> that's true. that is a disgusting fact. and should parents get to decide if kids eat crap as opposed to school? >> yes, they should be able to decide. i was not uh you lo i had -- allowed sugar until once a year. i would gorge myself and to this day i can't process sugar like a normal person. but it is good. >> that's exactly why. >> it is good because i don't really eat it. i think it gave me good, healthy eating habits. it should be banned from school. >> i just want to point out that anna's parents did a lot of things with anna that were also unusual. >> i turned out okay. >> you did turn out okay. one did involve an unusual camp. i won't greet into it. -- get into it. kevin, you think it is the worst idea ever. >> no, worst idea ever. they can't even have a cookie.

they have their menu from the first week in december. monday, cheeseburgers and fries, tuesday, belgian waffle sticks, hammer sausage. wednesday, pasta, mo swre rella string cheese, barbecue chicken. friday, pizza. cheeseburgers, waffles, string cheese, but you can't eat a cookie? what is the matter with these people? >> it is clearly an attack on the holiday snack, john. as a communist, this must make you happy. >> i love it. i want an end to christmas. i do. >> i did not know you spoke with regularly. >> first of all, we want kids to eat healthy, right? if you want your butter ball to eat the hoover up, fine. the principal kids should eat healthy in public school lunchrooms or whatever this menu notwithstanding.

>> you're welcome. >> we have to take a break. do you have a comment on the show? e-mail us at red eye at fox news .com. and to leave a voicemail on my direct line it is so simple your head my fall off. 2w0* 12-462-5050. i can hear it falling off now. still to come, the half time report from tv's andy levy. an unlikeable guy. >> tonight's half time report is sponsored by dancing cop santa. he uses his fancy dance moves to spread holiday cheer to those stuck in traffic. thanks, fancy cop santa.

s . welcome back. let's find out if we have anything wrong so far. let's go to andy levy. hi, andy. >> hi, greg. >> yes. >> no. >> yes. >> no. >> yes, it is you. >> all right. tsa agent leaves note in rapper's bag. doesn't take his weed. you said trusting a stoned rapper to give us our weed story is one of the bravest thing this show has ever done. you missed the week we sent bill schulz out with a special force detachment in afghanistan. >> sadly, yes. >> he will be missed, by the way. >> not really. >> kevin, you said you like the fact that the tsa did this. if in fact it is true. i think come on son should be

sop for first violations for everything. >> maybe not. -- maybe not murder. >> if you are going to get picky. >> it sounds a little familiar. >> so, anna, let me get this straight. you were at an airport. you have no picture identification. >> correct. >> they let you on the plane on the condition that you undergo a full body frisk. >> yes jie. are you sure this was an airport? >> i didn't have to go through one on the way home. >> i saw that movie. vie i am not the only one. apparently this is what they do to anyone. >> if you arrive without your driver's license, don't turn back around. don't assume you can't get on the plane. >> i think most of us are

turning right around. >> andy, isn't this the movie "taken" withly yum -- with liam-nissan. >> it was a different version than that. >> john, you said freddy gibbs the rapper is a hero of the war on drugs. >> i'm sorry. i meant to say the tsa agent who wrote -- >> okay. i just want to point out that gibb els earlier all of the fuss over a half ounce of weed, i love it. >> i do too. >> i am going to download his hit singles. he is probably best known for dropping mixed tapes like midwest gansta and it is obviously a reference to a ride in the early 80s. he had an 83 that they used to smoke out in. >> you know who turned me on to all of that? john gibson.

i think he is still alive. that's been going on a longtime. >> still tapes keep coming up. >> you said you were going to watch the debate, but then you remembered your cool -- you know what is cool? caring about the future of this great country. >> i do, and that's why i didn't watch. i i want to be like michele bachmann and rick perry and herman cain. and i will have a vague awareness for what is going on. it hits me between the eyes. >> herman cain is still alive, by the way, greg. >> i meant late of this race. i just miss him quoting donna summer poe -- pokeman songs. if i was him i would have quoted "hot stuff," looking for some hot stuff baby this evening, toot-toot. >> you said the debates were really strong. the candidates have gotten

better at them. my theory, and tell me why i am wrong, newt gingrich is doing so well because of this -- because of the way the campaign has been structured so far with all of these different debates. it happens to be his strength. the retail politics is probably not his strength. >> i will tell you why you are wrong. i think that's about the right analysis. newt is really good in these sorts of holding forth kind of things. unfortunately that's some of the weaknesses that are not going to carry him as far. >> if he can't raise any money -- debates are great if you can't raise money. sooner or later you have to raise money. >> but the fact we have had so many debates, i can remember being in primary seasons. i think without them newt is nowhere near -- he is in the back of the pack. >> that's probably right. >> i didn't expect you to come back from my comment. >> i'm sorry. we will take it out. >> you agreed with greg that

newt was being sexist in attacking bachmann and he wouldn't have done that to a man. i agree he would come off that way. i believe he is an equal opportunity condescender. >> i hope you are right, andy. >> greg, you said that as you said before, ron paul is like a chocolate covered piece of fruit. >> wow. >> where in the hell did you say that before? >> i think i might have said it yesterday. you know when you buy chocolates and there is a part of chocolate you like, and there is another part you don't like 1234* it is like a chocolate covered piece of fruit. that's how i feel about ron paul. when ron paul talks about bloated government, that's the chocolate. when he starts talking about foreign policy, that's the fruit. >> just for the future, if you didn't say it before on this show, it doesn't count. >> all right. i apologize for those of you who only watch "red eye." >> a couple things about your texas buddies, rick perry and ron paul. >> yes.

>> i thought the best moment of the debate when he said tim tebow is his favorite supreme court justice. >> favorite in what way? >> i don't know. he just said he was his favorite. >> after the debate and, quote, influential iowa republican said, quote, ron paul lost the iowa caucuses tonight. >> well, yes. his statement, his confused statement about iran, i know what he was trying to say. iran is contained. geo politically, iran is surrounded by afghanistan and by iraq, israelis. it is a contained country. he flubed that. it alienated a lot of the republicans. >> i'm not sure that's what he was trying to say. >> iran is a country. wants nuclear devices because it is contained. >> you said the same thing about iowa. >> john, i understand that's what you are trying to say. but i don't think that's what he was trying to say. >> you are confused by the

fact that that's what he was trying to say. >> obama wants e-mail addresses, cheap shots at the republicans regarding the internet. come on, son. >> thank you. thank you for your tsa words of fatherly advice. and thank you for recognizing a cheap shot when you see it. i am happy to throw them out here. i was going to show up at the airport next week with no id and see if i could get by. i have in under roos that are swinging. >> you are killing everybody's visual right now. >> they will go in your waistline, just saying. >> what? >> i'm just -- most of the terrorists they tell you what they are going to do. they go around the waist. i am just say figure you have weird underwear. >> i don't think i will be able to process sugar the rest of the night. not like normal people.

>> school bans christmas cookies. kudos foregoing after the trees. >> really, nature? if you have ever been outside, outside is where you stop the car to your nate before you go -- urinate before you go somewhere interesting. nature is full of butterflies and bananas and things that will eat you. i am much more comfortable in a town with chinese food. >> what kind of freak bananas did you grow up with? >> the kind that attack. >> okay. quickly because i have to go, anne i want to pointed out you are a little fashist. >> what? >> you think everybody should be banned if you don't like it. >> i think sugar is really bad. that's why we are all fat as americans, too much sugar.

>> john, you talked about how kids should eat healthy. fine. let him have some cookie teaze holidays. >> i would like to add i love pea pea swraw. >> how is your pod cast doing? >> thank you for asking. it is going quite well. it is called the smartest man in the world. if you go to itunes and write it in, it will pop up, and it is free to download. >> excellent. >> i guess that's the end of this segment. >> yes, it is. >> see you later, andy. >> coming up, jennifer garner is dead -- tired of being dead tired raising two young children which is tired, people. but first -- vegandubvu, that's how you do a tease.

should your beef go

without meat? ellen may be launching a vee -- vegan pet food brand. one newspaper reports discovered a void in the market. i have done that and been thrown out of a supermarket c. some folks are outraged saying it is frocked with risk. even the website vegan cats .com, fyi, where i get all of my news, recommends that owners mix in some meat for their hairy little friends. so must we discuss? we must in the -- >> lightning rrrrooooouuuuunnnnd. lightning round. >> if we are making vegan cat food in the united states of america, things must not be so bad in this country. >> i guess you are right, greg. i don't know that many animalsthat are strict vegans.

i know a couple that are lactose intolerant. i know anna wants to ban vegan food as well as sugar because she thinks it is bad. as you know bad things are bad. they are very, very bad. i find it is funny that portia de rossi -- >> i don't think you should give vegan food to pets. they are not meant to eat that way. it is dangerous. >> no, it is bad, anna. >> it is simply not good. >> here is the deal, kevin, wouldn't these pets if they were place netd wild eat meat on their own, and aren't they depriving them of that joy? >> the day i see a tiger eating a coconut maybe i will buy it. i don't want to hear about recessions and we have money to spend on vegan cat food and there is a market, i hope there is a depression.

>> wouldn't vegan cat food be cheaper? it is just grains. >> no, it costs more for no reason at all. >> when it is organic or vegan they are selling to -- >> to the 1%. >> my concern is people will trust this is okay just to solely feed your pet because ellen degeneres is behind it and we will have malnourished cats and dogs. >> and that's bad. >> now poor impoverished vegan grandmothers have something to eat. >> you should have this as a conservative, greg. it is capitalism. they found the market. they are going to profit off -- >> stupidity. >> that's capitalism. you give people what they want. they give you money. >> it makes it beautiful because -- >> for the record, i don't think vee beganism is bad. if you can do it, more power to you. it is good for your health.

>> i am glad you think it is good. lastly, one more question before we take a break, and isn't this the bottom line with animals or domesticated animals? they would eat you if given the chance. >> i agree. i think animals have two functions in today's sawiety, to be delicious and to fit well. after that they can -- >> on that note we will take a break. we are coming right back with another story. stick around.

welcome back to "red eye." so a "new york times" blog asks, is college worth it? it offers evidence that grads think it is, or sort of think it is anyway. what am i talking about? according to a research study, this year only 55% which i believe is half claim that it was very useful in helping prepare them for a job orca rear. the remaining 45% says fluff -- i have no idea what is going on right now. kevin, if many people go to

college, wouldn't that be a good thing? >> we have basically the four-year degree and that and grad school. we need to have a lot more choices. for some people college is a good job preparation. for english majors we are unemployable. >> college did nothing for me. i was an english major and i basically -- look at me. >> i agree. is it worth it? but if you didn't have a college degree you couldn't get some of the basic entry level jobs. >> that's true. >> i think people need to reevaluate how much they want for a name college. there are lots of great state colleges that people should go to instead of the named schools. >> there was one college i was proud of in my neighborhood called the college of san mateo. it was up on the hill in san mateo. one of the most famous alumni was mr. greg prubst.

it was a community college. did it prepare you well for your career? the college of san mateo. >> it was a two-year school and i went there for four and a half years. i never graduated. i majored in chasing and rolling while riding a 10 speed. is you it was a longtime ago. i didn't ever graduate college. i'm famous and successful, and i live here in the swirling vortex of gay, baby killing celebrities and vegan dog food. i don't think college is necessary at all for anyone. and this is a message to any young people who are up, high right now watching your show at 3:00 in the morning. don't stay in school. in fact, put your weed in your suit suitcase and you will probably learn to spell from tsa agents. just come on is a -- whatever that is in english. >> i'm with him on that. >> i couldn't agree more. >> i agree even when i don't

even understand it. john you are an academic. should trade schools become the norm? >> i think they should. one of the problems with the academic bubble that is happening, all of these kids in debt is the fact that higher education has become an enormous industry that sells a four-year vacation. it is loosey goosey, find yourself sort of era that is too expensive. it is just too expensive for what it gives back. i am all for trade schools. >> if less people go to college, then college is cheaper because the loans created a mals -- false demand which allows the tuition to go up. >> it is like housing. you have cheap financing prices, the price goes up. we are spending four years for something we can do with a two-hour iq test. >> that's interesting. >> that would save us a lot of time. >> college teaches you de duck

tiff reasoning and how to digest literature. >> are you a -- were you a college graduate recently? >> we are all college graduates. if no one developed you beyond being 18, you might not be here today. >> and i am married, but i appreciate that. >> thank you, greg. always a pleasure having you here. >> thanks, you guys. it is awesome. i know, right, like the dating game? >> go away. we will close things out with a post game wrap up with tv's andy levy. to see recent shows go to fox news .com/red eye.

time to go back to andy levey. >> how do we balance this budget of ours? >> amazingly back in the 90s

we balance the budget by raising taxes and cutting spending. it is a turns out arithmetic works and you don't need a fancy theory about it. >> correct. >> interesting. >> i don't see that happening. >> i hate when you agree. i will have to reconsider my position on that. >> when you raise taxes, people just spend. >> have to do something. >> all right, try to beat me down with your facts. >> that was exciting. >> where can we see kate gilligan who may or may not be a relative of yours? >> you can watch it on-line and it is on my facebook page. it is on the episode called high road and a guy road. >> is she the one that got the show canceled? >> no. it is still on the air. >> i don't believe it is. >> it got canceled. >> john, blah, blah, blah, twitter? >> john devore. that would be twitter .com john devore.