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tv   13 Hours at Benghazi - The Inside Story  FOX News  September 6, 2014 6:00pm-7:01pm PDT

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>> you know, you hear on the radio, we're under fire and you hear the pleading in their voices that they need help fast. i actually dropped to a knee and that's when the rocket hit. he had a machine gun and he started laying down hay. >> i rolled him over, there was
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no response. i took a pulse. nothing. i justen kind of said a prayer over both of them. >> i grew up out on a farm. rode horses as much as i could and grew cattle. my mom had a book of that's what your career wanted to be, what you wanted to grow up to be. mine was always a police officer, a firefighter or a soldier. it was december in 1983 when i actually signed up. i wanted to be in the infan trey because that's where you get to do all the fun stuff.
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when i got out of the military, i started working as a police officer, and then after that, i picked up a job as chief of police in a small town. then moved ton contracting after that. i was going to be in again baz si for 60 days. that was my first time into libya. >> i remember walking through our university and there was an army recruiter and he picked me out of a crowd. he said hey, what are you going to do after college? he showed me a ranger video. i asked him that's pretty tough. if a lot of people can't do it, i want to do that. in 2003, i was medically dischar discharged. out of the blue, i got a call from blackwaterer just starting saying hey, we're looking for contractors to go to iraq. i said yes. the call to go to libya was early 2012.
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>> third grade. that's when we lived across the street from the station. i just kind of kept going there. i chose the marine corps. always hear they're the toughest guys. so i tried out for the toughest one i could find. got out actually two months before i got totally bored and had to find work. i ended up getting a job in air conditioning. i did that until i got into contracting. >> the first time i went to libya, the second time i went back, the third time, the fourth time, they were all in benghazi. >> this attack lasted 13 hours. four people died, including our ambassador. and it was on 9/11. so i want you to take us back to
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the beginning. for people don't know this job, contractors, how do you explain it to them? >> private security contractors, for us it was protecting cia officers overseas, doing protection. >> how did the hierarchy work? >> the nan guy in charge, he was our -- >> now, that was bob? >> yes. >> our team leader is a staffer. he's an employee and all the contractors are like, if you talk military wise, we were like the enlisted folks. >> other members of your team are not here, obviously. tyrone woods who you called rone. there are two other members who remain anonymous. jack and d.b. >> correct, yes. >> so you were set up to protect the annex, which is the cia.
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>> this gives us a perspective of the other facility, which you guys call the consulate. >> here's the consulate. and here's us, here's our come found. >> so pretty close. three-quarters of a mile as the throw flies. a mile maybe if you did the whole thing. so this site, was it well protected? >> it looked like. it was a beautiful compound. i mean, it had orchards, it had a really nice found dane, a sta swimming pool. >> they had their own security. >> they were their own security. >> the diplomatic security. >> the diplomatic security. they didn't have an american force like a marine detachment. they did it themselves. >> so what'd you tell them? >> me and my bluntness, i said if you get attacked, you are going to die. i said, remember, if you ever
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need us, call. >> what's your reaction when you hear ambassador's coming to benghazi on september 10th, september 11th? >> we were thinking there's only five guys to protect him and that's a huge compound. >> so 9/11 comes. pretty routine day. >> normal day. just doing normal task stuff, task organization stuff. >> you had a move late in the afternoon. >> went out to meet some people for dinner. town looked normal. there was nothing that looked any different than any other day. >> and there was no whisper that this video was a major problem in benghazi or something? >> didn't know about a video. had no idea about any video.. no. no, sir. >> so how do you hear that something's wrong?
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>> our team leader. he came across the radio. and i remember i looked at my watch and it was 9:32 when i got the call, first got the call on the radio that said, hey, we need -- >> grs. what is that? >> global response. >> i looked at d.b. and said something's going on, grabbed my stuff and threw my shoes on and started moving to our team room. >> where were you? >> myself and jack were building d, just getting dressed ready for bed. >> i remember saying hey, man, what's happening? he said consulate is under attack. you can hear the actual concentration of fire and some explosions. >> it was a relatively quiet night in benghazi. and by 9:00 the seven americans in the compound are settling down for the night. you've got the ambassador in his room writing in his diary. you've got sean smith, the communications expert online talking with a friend.
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you've got five diplomatic security agents. somewhere around 30 or 40 minutes later men stream on to the compound bearing ak-47s, chanting in arabic, shooting off their guns. almost instantly they've overrun the compound. 17 february militiamen who were supposed to be guarding the compound, they just flee. >> you ready to go? >> five minutes, we're ready. >> thumbs up, ready to go. >> then what happens? >> i go to the t.l. and he looks right through me and says you guys need to wait. he was on the phone talking with somebody. i assume they were trying to coordinate with us to meet up with 17 february. >> which is a local militia. >> it'd been 15 minutes, i think, and i got out of the car and bob and team lead were standing on the front porch. i said, hey, we need to get over there. we're losing the initiative. and bob just looked straight at me and said stand down, you need to wait.
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>> we're starting to get calls from the state department, guys, saying we're taking fire. we need you guys here. we need help. >> why are we waiting? >> ambassador stevens and sean smith are forced to take refuge in a specially protected area, the safe haven inside the villa. with them is scott, a security agent charged with protecting the ambassador. they hide behind a locked gate. wickland waits in the shadows with a rifle ready to shoot anyone who tries to enter. the attackers can't get in. they use nearby diesel fuel to set the villa on fire. from beginning to when you're ready to go, thumbs up, you're ready to go out, to the time when you actually pull out. >> uh-huh. >> what's that time? >> it's close to 25, 25 minutes. >> i went to bob, i said, hey, we need to go.
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and got the wait again. and i got in the car and told the t.l. get in the backseat and gave a thumbs up, i gave him a thumbs up and we left. >> you guys did that pretty much on your own. >> yes. we were never given the okay to go. we got -- the final straw for us to go or at least my opinion and how i felt was where one of the agents said, hey, they're starting to light the buildings on fire. you need to get here. >> they used the word stand down. a number of people now including the house intelligence committee they insist no one was hindered from responding to the compound. "there was no standdown order given to american personnel attempting to officer assistance that evening." what do you say to that? >> it happened. all i can talk about is what
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happened on the ground that night. >> to you. >> to us. to myself twice and to tig once. it happened that night. it happened. we were told to wait and stand down. we were delayed three times. >> you ask for support. >> after i was leaving i said, well, get us an isr, which is a uav, a drone. >> so the drone would have given you eyes -- >> eyes. >> above. and -- >> support. protection and fire power. >> exactly. >> i remember, i still remember, gives me kind of chills. they said there's a line of buildings on fire. if you guys do not get here, we are going to die. >> scott wickland leads ambassador stevens and sean smith to a spot in the bathroom inside the safe haven. the window there is barred. acrid smoke billows into the area. he hopes to get them to a nearby bedroom which has a window that can be opened from the inside.
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he says follow me and crawls toward that spot. it's dark and smoky. but he makes it to the window. he opens it and drops out. only then does he realize stevens and smith haven't followed. he goes back in several times but can't find them. finally, exhausted and choking, he climbs to the roof and radios alec henderson and dave uben, two security agents elsewhere inside the compound. his message, the ambassador and sean smith are missing. >> now, tig, you and jack and rone are going the front gate and it's open? >> when i was standing right here, the land cruiser came from this direction. i thought it was like bad guys still in the land cruisers. so i drew down my weapon. >> saw it was d.s. guys driving it. >> and that's when i heard, hey, we can't find the ambassador. started moving towards the front porch, getting up on the front porch and that's when they're
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pulling sean's body out of the window. >> sean smith? >> sean smith. >> but the ambassador's still lost. >> but the ambassador's still lost. >> to you and tyrone woods, rone, go into the building one of many times. but go in and there's a moment there. >> he was saying, hey, i can't find my way out. i was saying come to my voice, but he almost made another right into where, i think, it was the dining room. and it was totally engulfed in flames. i reached out and grabbed him and said this way. we went out and coughed up a couple lungs. >> now, you're back here with db. >> yes. looked one of the libyan guards in the back. came back, opened the gate, i looked at the commander. i said when you come through this gate, you close it, you lock it. and i moved forward.
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i find later that he didn't do that. and we paid for it. we paid for it down the road. >> you've been there for a while now. and you can't find the ambassador. you've been in multiple times. then you hear gunfire from outside the compound. and then rocket propelled grenades. >> also a big explosion. bam. huge. >> where does it hit? >> it was over in this area. so it was basically on the other side of where we were trying to mass and collect and get out. >> and another explosion goes off. and it's coming from the gate -- >> that was left open. >> and i just started returning fire. >> when i was inside the safe haven that's when i heard the explosion and gunfire started cracking off. >> what'd you do? >> i moved from here over to here crouched all the way down at the same time a guy with an
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rpg moved into the view of the gate. that's what he was coming up here shooting and he'd run away, come up here, shoot and run away. just as he was shooting i shot him. >> you shot him. he went down. >> and then it was just like a light switch, everything stopped. >> so you guys finally get together, you what? give up the search for the ambassador. >> the team leader, we'd done everything, it was his call. the state department guys had left the compound. they were gone on their way back to ours. >> rone tells them make sure you take a left. and in the confusion of the counterattack they take a right. >> take a right. >> i said to myself, well, i can't say what i said to myself on camera, but it was damn, knuckleheads. >> now we're holding a piece of property that basically there's nobody else on. >> the t.l. comes over the radio and says everybody get down. we're getting out of here. to stay away from the consulate.
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you need to be quiet. let me do what i need to do. >> now, you have been back on the compound in the annex for a while. you said before you felt like you wanted to be with your team. but you also knew you had a job to do there. and you're the only one -- >> we had two flight security officers who were a great help. but from the grs side i was the only one that was there. >> the ds guys come back first? >> yes. >> the armored car held up. but they roll in. >> i could hear when they were leaving they announced it over the radio and then i heard tons of gunfire and knew kind of where they were at just from the direction.
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and then all of a sudden they're calling that they're coming in. >> hot. >> coming in hot. >> which means? >> they're coming in fast. have the gate open. you hear that flap-flap sound of is tires. you still hear that sound coming through. both sides in the front windshield were all shot out. you can see the relief on their face once they got in. scott got out, he looked like a chimney sweep. i told him to get inside and get some medical help. the other guys asked what they could do and i told them to get up on the various buildings. and we had one get up on each one of these buildings here. and i went back up on this building until our guys come in.
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>> they knew where they needed to go. each one went to their pre-planned position. jack is up on this roof. rone's up here. >> artano and db are here. is tig is over in this corner initially. and i'm over in this corner over here. >> somebody probably had smoke inhalation and preparing for maybe another fight. >> my adrenaline went back up. >> it wasn't long after they showed up you start hearing tires screeching over in this area. we start asking over the radio to the t.l. if 17 is coming over to assist us. and the response is they're not sure. so we immediately assumed that anything that's coming in is coming in that are bad guys. >> asked the status and team lead came across the radio and said checking on it. and that's the last -- that's the last time i got an actual answer when we were going to get any support or not. >> i was expecting at least some kind of air support. even if it was just a flyover by a jet or whatever. >> sometimes that's all it takes. it gets the bad guys down.
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>> no doubt that would have been nice. >> i want to put this back up here just so you can describe what's outside the annex that you're most concerned about. >> the stockyards. >> a lot of concealment. a lot of bushes. and small trees in this area. and this is what we call zombie land. >> c intersection. >> and they're starting to stage here. this is just a big open parking lot. and here's the house that we're seeing people start to go into that little area. >> and they can come into here and get access to our back gate. >> so you're watching this develop and these cars and people going into this house that you don't know if it's bad guys or not. and what's the engagement? you're going to wait until they fire on you? >> wait until we see action from them that specifies them being attacking us or going to attack us. i mean, i'm not going to wait to get hit before i hit back.
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we start seeing movement coming from this direction through the night vision goggles. >> the caveat here. if this house had kids in there, they would come and pester us once in a while. you didn't want to open fire. i don't want to shoot somebody that doesn't have it coming to them and definitely don't want to shoot a child. they were just starting to come up on us. and d.b. says i got movement. >> are you laser? >> oh, yeah. i got my laser. i'm picking out targets people i see and get on the radio with oz and tig. >> at this point when they're is moving up, i mean, in my mind they're getting ready to be -- we're going to engage them. we're going to let them get as close as possible and then take them out. the first thing they fired was an rpg and it went flying over the compound. >> came over myself and db's head. >> i was bringing water over to oz. i got about right here, about the corner of the gym when -- >> huge flash bang. >> yeah. homemade explosive. >> so it goes off. it hit right here just inside. >> to me it was just, okay, it's on.
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and we started fighting. started lighting them up. i was just lazing targets and shooting them. >> the fire fight starts. what's it look like? >> it's gorgeous. it's awesome. >> it's a green hue with the lasers dancing back and forth from target to target, you see three, four sets of lasers just bouncing back and forth taking targets. and you'll see a flash of light, which is the enemy shooting at you. and hear the rounds going past your head and you're just re-engaging in those spots. >> anybody take a hit? >> me and tig were up on this corner and they were trying to shoot out the lights. secondary from one of the rounds hitting the wall or one of the lights splattered up into my face and cut me across the top -- the bridge of the nose. >> so you push back. you obviously take down a lot of
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people. and it stops. >> to me it's hard to explain. hey, we won that game. all right. good deal. morale goes down. >> i think all of us feel it still wasn't over yet. that was just a probe. they're going to see our defenses and they're going to be coming back with a bigger force. because that's what we would do. >> there's a big break there. >> two hours. >> two and a half hours. >> at what point do you hear about ambassador stevens? >> there was a ds agent up on the building with jack and scott wickland. and he got a phone call. and that's how we found out that he was at the hospital. >> by 1:00 a.m. local looters and curiosity seekers have entered the consulate grounds and infiltrated the safe haven. six apparently good samaritans
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come across an unresponsive man. they take him to the benghazi medical center where he's worked on for 45 minutes before being declared dead. they have scott wickland's phone, which had been given to ambassador stevens during the attack. calling wickland's stored numbers, someone gets to the american embassy in tripoli and says a man has been found and he's dead. the caller provides a description matching ambassador chris stevens. >> there's a car pulls up and parks right here. a guy comes around from the side of the car and he's reaching like he's throwing something. and right as he brings his arm back to throw, i engage him. i move and shoot him two to three times. he goes down. and whatever he threw landed just short of our back gate and
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exploded, which then engaged again. >> the signal. >> the signal. >> this was bigger. it was a larger force coming through. between 20 cars -- >> again, getting threats and clear -- >> like ducks in a row a shooting gallery. >> but it's a burst of fire. >> they were kind of spraying. i mean, they were just constantly spraying. >> we were doing controlled burst. aim and shoot. aim and shoot. it's not in the movies, you don't flip on full auto and go after it. because you can't hit anything. you're aiming, single shot, shooting, shooting, shooting until they turn tail and run. >> so so far you've taken ak fire, rpgs. >> yep. >> are you worried that something heavier is coming? >> after the second, yes.
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young kids. >> rone was extended -- >> he wanted to see his baby. >> he had twins. >> what's he telling you? >> every day and two or three times a day we would skype and send photos and videos of the twins. whenever i was expecting a phone call and didn't get one, that's when you start to worry a little bit. >> we always e-mailed or talked on the phone. and he would always call around 3:00, 4:00 p.m. our time, always. and if he didn't, i knew ahead of time why he wasn't going to be able to call. >> we talked every day. whenever time would allow. most often the same time every day. if he didn't call me, you know, at the time he was supposed to
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call me, then, you know, i would begin to worry. >> that's one of the reasons i'm fighting. it's one of the reasons i'm doing what i do. not only for the people here, for the family back home, but primarily you're thinking about the team. and their family. >> their family. >> because their family, we're all family now, we're brothers. that's the way it is. you're thinking of this family here as much as that family there. >> most of the people are staged here. >> i ended up on top of the command center in building c was rone at this point. >> more cars come by. what happens then? >> we don't know what they're doing. we didn't know if they were guys lost or still trying to probe us. >> and a guy with a cell phone. >> yeah. yeah. he just walked up, cell phone and walked back. maybe he was getting gps coordinates with his phone. >> just another thing about the guy that's eerie, i want to shoot him but is he just some guy taking a walk?
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weird things are still happening that night. we're thinking morale's up, we're good, we fought them off again. i was expecting, you know, more cars. the first was quite small. honestly was just happy to see them. three of the guys i worked with before. so i recognized them off the bat. >> including glenn. >> including glen. >> and you had worked with him. >> we had just done a trip in tripoli before. >> so they come in. they go to building c. >> uh-huh. >> and you guys are still kind of waiting for what's happening. >> the aircraft that they had wasn't big enough to take us all back. so they were going to take the nonshooting personnel and get them out. >> to the airport. >> to the airport. we were going to stay there and hold the alamo. >> literally. >> literally. >> yeah, literally.
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>> literally. and i think they'd probably been there about an hour. we were talking about that wondering what's taking so long, why aren't we getting out of here. the sun was starting to come up, but it was we better be ready for another attack because this is one that's going to come. it was about that time that glen come up on the roof. >> climbed up the ladder. >> come over and was talking to rone and rone had introduced me to buzz. i'd never worked with him before. buzz is a sniper. said hopefully we don't need you but glad to have another shooter up here. buzz turned and was walking back toward the front of the building and almost immediately a mortar come in and landed on top of the wall right there. >> when i heard it, and i didn't even know i heard it, basically sounds like when a rocket goes off and -- >> small arms fire started coming from this direction. >> rone had a machine gun and
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stood probably a three-quarter cross position and just started laying down hay. >> laying hay down through this avenue of approach from here. i started to engage with him. i ran out of ammo, knelt down, changed magazines and right as i'm coming up and i start to reengage, another mortar hits almost to the center of the building here. and that one knocked me back. and that's what hit rone. rone was standing to my left. i got knocked back. and as i stood back up i saw him out of the corner of my eye. and he was in a fetal position in the corner right here. i stand up and try to reengage with my rifle and i bring my hand up and from here down is hanging off at a 90-degree angle. >> your hand is just hanging. >> yeah. i just keep trying to bring it
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up and it won't stay. i can't make it work. and that's when the second round hit. that's when i saw buzz go downright about here. i wasn't sure if he was hit or if he was just taking cover. and then i turned back and again tried to engage and get my hand to come up and a third round hits in the same vicinity. and at that point, i mean, i just felt like i got stung by a thousand bees just up and down my side. i figure i better get to some cover now in case another one comes. the whole night went quiet after that. >> tough to talk about? >> yeah. >> yeah, just a little. >> i bet. >> but it's what has to be done. i mean, you're going to fight, you got to stay in a fight. that's the only thing i could think of is rone's down, somebody needs to continue firing. >> and you see this mortar
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attack happen. what are you doing? >> i'm still -- i'm over here on tower 3 still covering this area. to me it looked like it hit right around here. we had no cover from mortar attacks. i mean, even the buildings, i'm surprised didn't collapse. another explosion hits right here. when i heard another thump, that's when i moved back and got somewhere right around here. and that's when the mortar hit. and once that mortar hit, pitch black and dead quiet. jack came over and said, hey, man, there's no movement. and that's when i sprinted to the ladder and then i just kind of skid died on up as fast as i could and that's when i saw dave off to my left. looked like somebody in the center.
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and a couple other people maybe over here. but it was still a lot -- the smoke was still up there from just the debris kind of settling down. so i moved over to dave. i find a tourniquet because dave's leg was pretty much severed off. it was barely hanging on by a thread. same with his arm. so got the tourniquets on him. called back on the radio say, hey, i need help up here. i need help. i heard noise, so i moved to where the noise was and it was -- >> i was trying to get a tourniquet out and put on myself. and then -- >> meanwhile your hand is still flopped out. >> yeah. i pulled out the tourniquet and was trying to fix my arm. kept grabbing it trying to put it back in place. >> he's just sitting there kind of going, hey, check this out. his arm is like -- i'm like, dude, you need to stop. you're going to make it worse. so we had a tourniquet there, reached down and grabbed a
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tourniquet and threw it on him real quick. stood him up. >> he asked me if i could get to the ladder and i'm like i have to. i knew there were others we had to get down. >> you were pretty banged up. >> yeah, just a little bit. i got hit in the chest, up and down my side, got hit in the throat. and i'm like, yeah, i guess i'll have to. so i hooked my top arm around the top rung of the ladder and just climbed over and was concentrating on just thinking, you know, if i fall now i'm going to break my neck and die. and that's the last thing i want to do. so i'm just concentrating on getting my feet on that rung and sure enough i slip and luckily i had my arm and i caught myself.
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pulled myself back up and got down and then was able to inch my way down the ladder. >> after got oz up and moving i went straight back to rone. he was still in the fetal position. i rolled him over. there was no response. i ripped off his body armor and tried -- you know, got that off. took a pulse. couldn't feel nothing. got the flashlight, shined it in his eyes, no pupil movements, no dilation. put my ear to his chest and try to see if his chest was going up and down if i could hear a heartbeat. there was nothing. so i left him, went over to the other guy. so i did pretty much the same exact thing, checked him, ripped off his body armor. and there was nothing. >> when you realized they're dead, what do you do? >> well, i just kind of said a prayer over both of them. >> the quote is, god watch over him, guide him to where he needs to be, take care of his family." >> uh-huh.
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>> so after that, you know, i kind of -- they just want to get everybody off the roof. and when i was doing -- i just ignored them, you know? it was like -- gathered up everybody's weapons that was left. >> you got to get the bodies off the roof. >> it's tough. >> the d boys picked the bodies up and dumped them over the side of the roof. maybe that's not the right description, but they got them off the roof in the most expedient manner. by doing that it was just throwing them over the edge of the roof to get them down. >> just leave that to a person's decision, you know, right,
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turned on the news and there it was, you turned on the news and there it was, you know, four americans had been dead and two were unidentified. i'm like, you know, he hasn't called me. i tried texting him. i tried calling him. he hasn't -- and i just hit my knees and prayed. >> in past experience if i start panicking right away, then i just get myself worked up. so i just tried to not worry about it. and i thought, well, i'll hear from him in the morning or the next evening. >> there was a ticker on the bottom of whatever news channel it was, and it said something to the effect that there was an attack on the annex in benghazi.
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and my heart dropped. and i'm like, gosh -- and that was my first reaction. >> take you to when the bigger convoy arrives. they finally get there, it's like 50 cars, there's technicals, which are the big mounted machine guns. >> it was a mean convoy. >> remember the first vehicle coming in. i had my gun on them. i had eyes on aiming right at his head. and i just reached my hand off with my offhand and i went like
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this. and he reached out the car and did like a big smile. and one thing that we've learned on these jobs, you have to know how to read people. >> is there a part of you guys that looked at that convoy and said where was that? where was that before? >> yes. i did. like where the hell are these guys? >> hours ago. >> exactly. >> you get everybody mounted up, you drive them to the airport in this massive convoy that's still probably worried about attacks on the way. >> sure. >> you get there and there's another confrontation. >> between the militias, yeah. our militia and whoever militia was controlling the airport. we're the bigger militia so we got through. >> you have a smaller airplane. it's not exactly big for everybody. load you guys up. >> they're starting to pull me off and i walked into benghazi, i'm going to walk out of here. and i get up, slide to the edge and stand up. there's still blood dripping down my arm. and the -- because it was a private jet and there was a flight attendant. and her eyes just get as big as
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saucer plates. and she's laying towels down because she's worried about her boss's airplane getting messed up. and then they bring in dave. and he was in and out of consciousness throughout the flight consciousness throughout the flight and somewhere in between that, somebody clearing their pistol in the plane and a round goes off. and the pilot is -- i'm not going to -- he wasn't going to take off until there whether or not the fuselage had been breached. it had lodged against one of the seat posted and didn't penetrate anything. >> dave was bleeding out. if there was another delay, he probably wouldn't have made it because he was down to about as much blood as a person could lose before they die. >> you are taking off in the plane. the rest of you guys are going to wait for the next plane with
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the bodies and then eventually the body of master stevens. >> yes. >> i didn't the first time. i wasn't sure who it was going to be. if it was going to be him or if it was going to be some -- you know, representative informing me of what had happened. i just took a deep breath and i listened. and i just said, okay. and i love you. and i probably didn't sleep much that night. >> it was really great. he just said i'm okay. everything is okay. and click, he hung up. so it was super quick. >> finally at about 5:00 in the afternoon, he arrived there. and i was just like, i could breathe.
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just thank god. >> you'd do it all over again? >> definitely. i'd be there. >> that's just the way we are. >> we run to it. we're not returning away from it. >> how often do you get back to this 13 hours? do you think about it a lot? >> every day you think about it. there isn't a day that -- >> you don't? >> i'm reminded about it every time i go grab something. >> because of your hand? >> yeah. >> i still don't have full use of it. probably never will have full use of it. i mean -- but -- so it is a reminder. but it is -- it reminds me of the honor of fighting with guys like tig and tonto and jack and
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db. very few times in your life where you get to form a bond like this. and most of the time it's done in situations that suck. and but -- you know, i wouldn't give it up. >> when you see all of the back and forth that has happened over the past roughly two years, what do you think about all the political battle? >> you can't get it wrapped up. because we're not politicians. we're contractors, we're soldiers, marines, rangers, we still are. we'll always be. leave that to the politicians. i can't speak for why a politician did this or why a politician did that. all i can speak for is what we went through that night. >> if i gave you that 30 minutes back and air power would stevens and smith be alive today? >> yes, to me without the delay
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they would still be alive. my gut is yes. >> you in on that? >> i much strongly believe if we would have left immediately they'd still be alive today. >> i think there is a lot of things could have been different. i mean, air power, if we had some air support, they would have sent somebody in. >> the specter, he signatures -- >> they would have been -- >> which means that brown and mug would be alive. >> would it have improved our chances? oh, heck, yeah. yeah. waves don't care what age you are.
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>> is that fun? >> want to do it again? >> not having my thumb that opposes, it's very difficult to pick things up. and it's one of those things that you don't really think about until you don't have it any more. you like the red one? okay. you want me to hold your baby? >> watch over us and keep us safe and -- >> gaert love hath no man that this -- >> i think of tyrone and bub every time i read that.
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>> they are part of the team just somewhere else right now. i guess we'll all link up again some day. hello and welcome to justice. i'm judge jeanine pirro. fox uncovers the bonn georgiay smoking gone, my opus on isis and bill o'reilly, is he a sexist? but three u.s. security orptives on the ground in benghazi on that fateful night years ago tell fox news what really happened when four americans were massacred by terrorists. these men risked their own lives to same ambassador chris stevens and the other americans. they were repeatedly told to stand down and wait.

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