vice president. it took a lot of incoming but so did kamala harris, who had been a star and sparring with the vice president in the last debate. this will likely be the last debate stage for some of the contenders. who makes an extra? most-watched, most trusted, most gratefully spent the evening with us. good night from detroit. >> biden, harris, booker and seven others hit the stage and they hit each other over issues like medicare for all, open borders, race, and a lot more. and in moments we are going to talk to reince priebus, dennis kucinich, byron york and dan bongino among others. they will take you through all the highs and lows. plus, last night we told you the real meaning behind bernie's flailing arms much on delaney's cool and so what did candidates unknowingly reveal tonight? our body language expert's back. she'll be with us at the end of the show to tie it all together. but first we go live to detroit where shannon bream, anchor of "fox news @ night" is here with

one on the ground reaction you can't miss about tonight's debate. shannon. >> shannon: yeah, a lot of energy here in detroit, laura. and again we saw a lot of it was all last night, and ideological split up. primarily health care. again the candidates going back and forth about whether private insurance should be done away with altogether along with caution from some who say you're going to scare off americans who would never vote for a candidate who is proposing something like that. as they went back and forth after each other, senator cory booker said listen, i am worried that the person was enjoying us fighting each other this much is the man sitting in the white house. he went back to it more than once. here is senator booker. >> the person who was enjoying this debate most right now is donald trump. we picked democrats against each other while he is working right now to take away america's health care. again tonight we are playing into republican hands, who have a very different view and they are trying to divide us against each other. >> shannon: but again, that is

what debates are about, so of course there was plenty of infighting between the democrats tonight. the former vice president biden of course expected to take a lot of heat from senator kamala harris. that has happened along with senator booker and governor inslee and many others who have gone after the vice president tonight. another interesting dustup that was always between congresswoman tulsi gabbard and senator kamala harris. gabbard went after her hard on her record as the attorney general in california and about where she could have done things that would have matched up differently with promises she had made. harris fight back at her pretty well too. there are multiple fights here. if that is what debates are about and by the way, congresswoman gabbard is going to be our exclusive guest as we continue our live coverage of 11:00 p.m. here from detroit. back to you. >> laura: back to my fantastic. rock star penalty. reince priebus, former white house chief of staff and former rnc chair, byron york, "washington examiner" chief political course monica fox news contributor and dennis kucinich. former democratic congressman -- harmeet dhillon is with us.

from 2020 advisory board member. reince priebus, let's start with you, what a president trump and his allies thinking tonight watching what happened in the second democrat debate? >> as i was watching i thought there were two winners tonight. number one, president trump very clearly because, number one, the democrats are debating throwing off 200 million people off their private insurance. they are trashing barack obama. if they are talking about medicare for all, another 32 trillion. in the second winner is joe biden, because one thing i learned in 2016 is that when it was all trump all the time, no matter good, bad, in the middle, trump always won in that battle. tonight was all about joe biden, constantly attacking him. at nine on one. it was all about biden. he's plus 20 going into the debate. if anything he was helped by the debate and i think ultimately it was a good night for him and a great night for the president. >> laura: byron, what stood out when i watched this thing

was my goodness, if barack obama showed up on stage, he would be one of the more conservative people on that stage and they'd have to attack him standing right there. this was amazing to see, the party of doom and gloom. pretty much everyone was doom and gloom except biden, why think was saying he'll ask me and we are going to do obama 3. 3.0. >> he has always been the candidate of restoration. other candidates of transformation, he's the candidate of restoration. but watching this i think if you are a democrat and you truly think the house is on fire, that we are in a big emergency because of donald trump, the debate started out with 40 minutes of arcane discussion of health care in which they did discuss whether or not to take away peoples private insurance, came to no particular conclusion, and nobody gave that sense of emergency that the democratic base is feeling. they weren't seeing it in their candidates. >> laura: dennis kucinich, you've argued a lot of these

issues in the past that you have to take on the big dogs in your party to be a transformational candidate. but tonight, it was an odd thing to watch because again, barack obama, two-term president, extremely popular. global superstar. pretty much all of them are hitting it without necessarily saying it. obama, trade deals. they did it last night too and biden is there saying wait a second, that was the party of hope and change. >> there's a couple things here. first of all, i think we have to acknowledge that some of the deficiencies of the obama administration created the opening for donald trump. as far as health care, there is a real divide. among democrats on health care. and there has been for decades. in 2000 i went to the democratic platform's committee to present medicare for all and it was shot down by the gore campaign. this is -- and the support for

medicare for all is growing. you wouldn't know it by tonight's debate, but you would certainly know it from yesterday's with bernie sanders. >> laura: we had to lainey i think john delaney, the only one with his newest experience with other than andrew yang said i went to companies. medicare paid for 80% of what doctors actually need to cover their costs. medicare for all will look great or what is already going to crater, which is medicare. but the problem here is with god biden and kamala harris. i want you to get in on this, they are mixing it up at the very beginning of this debate over this medicare for all conversation. it's hard to follow for most people who don't know the issues. this is how it went down. >> vice president biden's campaign calls her plan "a have hit every which way approach" and says that just part of a confusing pattern of equivocating about your health care stance. what do you say to that? >> there probably confused because they've not read it. >> anytime someone tells you you're going to get on the good

ten years you should wonder why it takes ten years. it will require middle-class taxes to go up, not down. >> the cost of doing nothing is far too expensive. >> laura: did joe biden when that exchange? >> i think you pointed out the kamala harris is all over the place. he could have done a better job. he could've pointed out that actually yesterday bernie said that his plan was previously endorsed and previously cosponsored, eliminates private health care altogether. congressman harris as i wrote in the journal a little while ago, after that 20, 30 minutes of discussion in her having five times the airtime of any of the other candidates, she still wouldn't say how much it's going to cost and what it really accomplishes. i do think that biden did a better job than that exchange than kamala harris. >> i would have to agree that senator harris has been all over the map.

her proposal on so-called medicare for all really isn't. it looks like a duck but it quacked like an insurance company. >> laura: [laughs] okay. the most devastating blow to harris again, who was built up much like beto o'rourke was built up and buttigieg was built up and then it was harris. each candidate, build them up, she's been built up for weeks and weeks and weeks so this was another moment for her to shine. if this was the most devastating blow to her. watch. >> sheep at over 1500 people in jail for marijuana violations and then laughed about it when she was asked if she smoked marijuana. she blocked evidence that would have freed an innocent man from death row until the fourth, courts forced her to do so. she gets people in prison beyond our sentences to use them as cheap labor for the california. there is no excuse for that and the people who suffered under your rain prosecutor, youth owe them an apology. >> laura: and she basically answered no, that's not true, but she never really told us why

that wasn't true and i don't know who's going to fact-check kamala harris. that might work in the general for harris. she's tough on crime. but in his primary, in this temperature, does that work? >> it doesn't work. if you can't it both ways. but also, these candidates that are not kamala harris and not joe biden, they are preparing -- preparing for these attacks. tulsi gabbard went in there ready to attack kamala harris because she's in the second position. if these other candidates are on the attack. here's the one thing that reminds me of 2016, the difference between 2016 and now, the one thing the democrats are getting right, the rest of the field, is they are all attacking biden. they're all trying to take him down. i don't think it's going to work right now but they are all attacking him. remember in 2016 the republican candidates did not attack donald trump. they were afraid -- only until the end. they were afraid to attack donald trump. the only attack each other. they knock each other out of the game and trump was standing there and they were afraid to go after him.

they're not afraid to go after joe biden. they know that if they don't knock him down a couple notches within the next two months things will be very difficult. i also think the dnc is on the brink of losing complete control over this primary. >> laura: explains to us. this is an important point, everybody has to listen to what you're saying. >> want these candidates start to fade out. once the field starts to narrow, it takes nothing -- if cnn wants to do a debate every single night with seven of these candidates, they can get three times the viewership, so if you're at 1% in iowa -- we are all at 1% in iowa, laura is at 30% and i was very >> that's exactly -- >> why would we not have a debate every night on cnn, the three of us, to try to catch up with you? and the reason why the dnc needs to get control is that these 19, 18, 15 candidates are going to go on their own, they are going to go rogue and this is about to break loose and i think you're seeing this starting -- >> laura: byron.

interesting. i like the entry, the palace in drake at the dnc. dcc is having trouble too. >> this is the last time you'll see most of these candidates on stage in the debate. worlds change the next time. you have to have, to qualify for the debate, at least 2% in the polls internationally or a number of state polls. right now six or seven members -- >> laura: who falls out after tonight? >> the bottom dozen follow. >> laura: but who right now if you think is not going to make it? >> the ones who stay in the top four, bernie, biden, harris, warren and booker maybe and buttigieg. and that's about it. the rest of them are going away because they will not qualify. >> laura: your point is that they can still pop up on cnn because cnn needs their -- >> what is to stop ten of these candidates if they get knocked out, what's to stop this time from doing a debate on cnn?

the dnc -- >> laura: dental care about them. >> they have not tried the debate calendar to the nomination process. i have not tied -- >> laura: i get what you're saying. >> to rules of the nomination. so it is a free-for-all. there is nothing preventing candidates from doing their own thing. >> laura: dennis kucinich, you and i talked about this before the show began. i keep thinking of the guys who were the dash could be guys or gals, who were just master campaigners. barack obama, bill clinton, donald trump, george w. bush. not just because they won, but they were phenomenal just retail politicians. who on that stage tonight other than biden has that kind of common touch? he can be a little self-deprecating. yet he can slur his words every now and then. but i don't think anyone cares about that. who comes close to being a retail politician with some pizzazz? i didn't see it. if i was just trying to look at it as an analyst. i did not see that kind of

obama, trump go get it. i didn't see it. >> well, it's still early. >> laura: marianne williamson maybe. >> it's still early in the campaign and i think that you can't get elected to some of the office these people hold without having some skill at retail. but i also think that i would be very careful to write anybody off right now. while it's true that the president is in a debate can determine if there will be visible to the american people, there's still a lot of movement and i think tonight one of the dash i think you picked it up, tulsi gabbard for example. that exchange that she had -- >> laura: it shows her vulnerability. kamala harris a pessimist vulnerability. if you can't answer the door mike kelsey -- and i like kelsey everett -- if you can't answer or you think you're going to go toe-to-toe with tom? i don't think so. >> a prosecutor is going on offense and she's good on offense. but senator harris didn't do

well on defense. >> laura: it democrats have a new phrase for we can't answer or don't want to answer this question. watch. >> we should stop using republican talking points in order to talk with each other about how to best provide that health care. >> your question is a republican talking point. >> we cannot keep with the republican talking points on this. you've got to stop. >> open borders is a right wing talking point. >> laura: i mean, that's a cute trick, isn't it? >> that's lame when you hear it again and again and what they don't like is the republican reality outside that room, the reality that donald trump has been the best president ever for criminal justice reform, which is something they purport to care about for african-american jobs, for education, for a rising tide for all americans and for everything in our economy. so they don't like those facts.

if they are painting and conjuring this picture of this dystopian america where the seas are rising and we are shivering and huddles in cages on the streets and none of that is really true. so i think it's not working, it's very fake. i think you pointed to this, most of these candidates are totally fake. kirsten gillibrand, thanks for playing, but go into ohio and explained whiteness to white women. what is that? it's crazy. i think you are right.

we are going to talk about the facts here. if. staff to demonize the president, which is getting very tired. it is and talk about solutions for americans. they have a completely altered view of reality. on the one hand everybody from other countries can come into the country. on the other hand the taxpayers are going to pay for it. with what money? so i think they really failed at that and when it to donald trump getting up against any of these, i can't wait to see that. we're not going to see it as many of the other guests appointed out tonight, most people are going to take their consolation prize and go for the most part. i don't see how any of them are

going to better at a lot of the issues they talk about. biden was the leading candidate there. he took some hits for the fact that his demonstration had departed -- >> laura: i do want to get to what i just mentioned. other 2020 dems also piled on the president obama's legacy. watch. >> when the issue came up with all those deportations, the vice president of the united states, i didn't hear whether you are trying to stop them are not using your power, your influence in the white house. >> the president came along and he's the guy that came up with the idea first time ever dealing with the dreamers. compare him to donald trump i think is absolutely bizarre. >> i don't see, hear an answer from the vice president. >> he moved to fundamentally change the system. that's what he did. >> mr. vice president, you can't have it both ways. you and vote invoked present oa any more than anybody in this campaign and then dodge it one is not. >> laura: it is true that president obama had a lot of deportations, so now the conclusion is obama was too conservative for this democratic

party. >> i think it's a tough sell in the democrat party right now and that's why biden is 20 points out. i think the party has to be very careful here. i think that the party and me and others -- it's easy for us to dismiss this entire field is completely wacko, but the the e guy that's not necessarily in that category is plus 20 over the rest. so i think it's important for the party to focusing on joe biden, talk about the fact that he's for the green new deal. he came out in favor of it. 93 trillion. i think it's important that we don't lose sight of that and i think that barack obama is far too popular still within the democrat base. much different than bush in '08 and 2010 when you had ted cruz and mike lee and everyone just running from -- >> laura: 55% of americans -- democrats -- 55% of democrats today want to continue obama's legacy.

so they are up there trashing obama. >> dangerous deal. >> i do not think if i'm completely laid to rest concerns about his age, about his sharpness. there was enough halting in his performance. enough difficulties in formulating ideas that i don't think this was going away and h is going to be a problem from now on for him. >> i would have to agree with byron to the extent that the vice president seemed to interrupt himself a few times. and he broke the flow of his own presentation, which didn't help him. i also think that cory booker did a pretty good job putting the vice president to the test. >> laura: why is cory booker not really catching on? he is articulate. but we were arguing nor police policy. at one point we were arguing nypd, then we were arguing new work. not saying it's not important,

but for a democrat primary, it seemed very -- really, really granular. again, i think most of it went over people's heads. >> even if you don't get him down into the granular aspects, i do think biden laid a couple of good blows on him with respect to how he lied and the aclu accuses booker -- et ceter et cetera. he comes across -- if you just turn off the volume and look to the body language he comes across as very kind of shrill, kind of in your face. we saw that with the kavanaugh hearings, we see that in virtually -- all up at 11. this is spinal tap. one note, and this is too much. people don't want that. i think they want a biden who is functioning. think that's the problem. the halting and the kind of mini stroke type situation. that was very discomforting to watch. very difficult to watch. >> laura: panel, thank you for joining us. please stand by. we are going to check back in

with you in just a few moments. i'm going to go back out to detroit. peter doocy is life from the debate spin room now. >> a widely held position that too many people are being deported for illegally immigrating to the united state united states. at one point cory booker asked to joe biden it is that when he was in the obama administration he didn't do more if you got a problem with it. booker said you can have it both ways, you invoke barack obama's name more than anybody for the good and now you're saying that you have a problem with him. that's also something that bill de blasio challenged biden on directly in this exchange. >> did you say those deportations were a good idea? >> i was vice president, i am not the president. i keep my recommendations to them in private. unlike you, i expect he would go ahead and say whatever was said privately with him, that's not what i do. what i do say to you is he moved

to fundamentally change the system. that's what he did. but much more has to be done. >> and this was a real pile on joe biden and the obama administration's immigration policy and part of biden's defense was to say wait a second, i'm not the only person on stage who was in meetings with barack obama. julian castro was there too and i never heard him mentioning anything to the former president about too many people being deported, to which castro responded to biden, that means one of us learned the lessons of the past and one of us hasn't. biden has been taking it from all directions and it has revealed, as mentioned earlier, some problems with the obama administration that we did not know about before. laura. >> laura: peter, interesting. if you thought democrats would back off their extreme open borders rhetoric, guess again. joining me now to react, what he saw tonight, tom homan, former

acting as director and a fox news contributor. tom, there was kids in cages, there was conversations about the horrible separation of children from their parents -- decriminalizing the border. every time we revisit this group of democratic candidates, things seem to go more left. i didn't think it was possible. >> i think it's possible and i think it's going even further left and everything they've mentioned is not going to solve our number one crisis on the border. it's going to make it worse because their ideas are going to bring more people, entice people. when you reward illegal behavior, want to give away free stuff, free education, free medicare, let's decriminalize illegal entry. let's get pathway to citizenship to enter this country illegally and refused to leave, that's just going to bring more so it's going to make the problem worse. >> laura: why do you need even immigration reform at all if ones are here you just stay.

if basically you're saying anyone who's here can stay, then it doesn't even make sense to do competence of -- i want to play something now. julian castro said tonight that he would not only and family separation of the border, he'd also implement this. >> the only way that we're going to guarantee that we don't have family separations in this country again is to repeal section 1325 of the immigration and nationality act that we do a 21st century marshall plan with honduras, el salvador and guatemala so that we can get to the root of this challenge so people can find safety and opportunity at home instead of having to come to the united states. >> laura: your reaction to that? marshall plan plus no consequent as if you come here. but there will be civil penalties like jaywalking. >> if you want to make illegal immigration illegal, that's just going to cause a problem on the board. it's going to increase. his plan -- it's ridiculous. i guess he's admitting now

they're not coming here because of fear of persecution from the government because that's what they're claiming, right? if it's really a poverty issue, then none of them qualify for asylum. let's shut the door right now. he just admitting it's a big fraud. they are coming out because of fear of persecution, the economy -- it's about poverty and about a better life. that's not asylum. >> laura: such as economic circumstances. but that does not qualify as a condition for asylum. otherwise millions and millions and millions of people would want to, right now because they live in places where maybe they don't have a good income. >> i would like to hear one thing. i would like one of the commentators to ask them this question, if you don't want people deported after they've had to process in front of a federal judge, what is your option? that means everybody, end. just say it. that's what you're getting to. just admit it. because if there is no -- if there's no integrity in the entire system and a judge's order doesn't mean anything and

everybody gets to stay, that's open borders. just say it. it's not a republican talking point, like a herd. that's what they're talking about, that's what they mean, they ought to just say it. >> laura: there was a moment when cory booker was asked a question and he just would not give a straight answer. watch. >> you have a plan that would "virtually eliminate immigration detention." does that mean that the roughly 55,000 migrants currently in detention would be released into the united states? >> we are playing into republican hands. if we have no justifiable reason to be here, they are returned. if they are -- the people i met who were survivors of assault, we wouldn't even let come and present for asylum. we are butchering our values that are making ourselves -- >> senator booker -- >> laura: the man is ignorant, he doesn't even know what qualifies as an asylum petition. but doesn't qualify as asylum, as sad as it is. >> two points. number one, 90% -- 89% everyone

isis arrests -- they need to be detained. it's a community safety issue. 70%, 72% of every alien in custody of ice is statutory mandated by congress to be detained. congress has said they have to be detained for a public safety threat. how do we get around that? again, they are not being honest american people that these people are in jail for a reason. they are being detained for a reason. there are a public safety threat. >> laura: a good moderator would follow up and say so criminals in custody should be released, that is what you're saying? but that's not the question that was asked. >> absolutely. >> laura: the point he made though was if they don't have a justifiable for being here they should go home. what is justified -- what does that mean? that's not in the u.s. code. >> needs to look at the data. if there is over 700,000 people in the country who had due process, been ordered to removed and have not left.

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♪ >> laura: dems not only went after the president on race tonight, but there were also at each other's throats. biden, booker, harris, they all had to answer for their past tough on crime stance. so was this a reckoning on race the media was hyping? to join me now, dan bongino, former secret service agent, fox news contributor and pastor darrell scott, founder of the national diversity coalition for trauma. dan, let's start with you.e don lemon really has outdone himself. i want to play for you just a few snippets of how he was kind of phrasing the questions, especially on this. let's watch. >> why are you the best candidate to heal the racial divide that exists in the country today which has been stoked by the president of austria's racist rhetoric?

>> after the president's racist weeds attacking baltimore and congressman elijah cummings the mayor of baltimore slammed the tweets except the president "helpless." >> laura: i remember that cnn article that race relations had worsened, dan, under obama. remember that. >> you might seriously expecting don lemon to do journalism, laura. i hope you're being sarcastic. it's don lemon we are talkingm. about. no one actually takes them seriously so getting past that and getting to the real core of the issue because conservatives, you, me, and pastor scott, we are actually interested in solving problems regardless of the melanin component of someone's skin. i want to praise on the drum. you can argue about the language in the tweets all you want. fine, whatever. i'm from queens, language doesn't bother me. i like solving problems. think i president trump lived about baltimore because you know what happened? for a week now -- be fair, four or five days, we have been talking about a problem in our america with our citizens, the

citizens of inner cities who have been entirely left behind because the cancer of liberalism has burned their cities to the ground and for four days we've been talking about it because of who? because of donald trump. i don't care if there was someec grand strategy involved or not, it was the morally rightit thing to do to bring this up because now the democrats are going to have to answer questions about what they did. >> laura: pastor scott, race relations in america, i will repeat, at the end of obama's second term, or worse than they were when he came in?ic all the police consent decrees reinstituted, michael brown, martin -- all of this, baltimore. now they're acting like trump created all these problems. like they had eight years under obama to do a lot in these cities got worse and worse and worse. >> is fitted. i grew up in the '60s and in the '60s, black people, we were riding in the streets, we

were getting beat up by the police. we had light in our neighborhood and towards the end of president obama's tenure, black people were rioting in thela streets, black people were getting beat up by police. it was history repeating itself and even what you said aboutut don lemon having outdone himself tonight -- no he out-dumbed himself. they can't engage the president on matters of policy. the collusion narrative is dead. mueller was a dog. impeachment is not happening, obstruction is a nonfactor. all they have left is the race card out of all of their cards. the other carts that can't play, all they have is the race card and i will try to sneak some climate change in but armageddon al gore told us that we would all be submerged under polar ice cap. >> laura: it was very negative

negative. what happened to hope and change, dan bongino? again, flint, michigan, going back to busing and talking about lead in the water. stuff that needs to get solved for sure. but this was just a series of doom and gloom stories where the country is on the right track. we are going in the right direction. things are looking up for everybody but they have to pretend that they're not getting better and just say that trump is a racist. i think it's wearing really thin. that is just the sense i get. i might be wrong, but i think the race of session is solving nothing but obfuscating the real problem.th >> you are absolutely not wrong. i live in a effectively a split congressional district here in florida. it was democrat, it goes republican. there is a broadoe swath of peoe with a lot of ideas, unlike liberals. i don't hit people with a political -- ideology difference

to me. i talk to democrats in the gym all the time. i i've heard it too. people are tired of this. can we just be candid and go through the b.s. permit? liberals give up on america a long time ago. i have no problem at all saying there's nothing they like about this country. they hate freedom, they hate free markets, they hate public, safety, they hate giving parents school choice. anything that involves freedom or the constitutional republic as we know it theyst hate. is this wearingt, thin? of course it's -- that's why we got donald trump, because he wouldn't take it. he just fired back instead of apologizing every time someone taken the media disingenuously through the word of him. he fought back and americans said racism, listen, it's always going to be a problem but as a percentage of the population were racism is a systemic problem, it's infinitesimally small. this country has come a long way and everybody needs to recognize that. >> laura: the former hud secretary for obama, julian castro -- he has no chance but maybe he wants to be

in someone's cabinet again someday -- but he has no chance of pastor scott, he was acting like baltimore was created by drum. i'm thinking, you were the hud secretary for president obama. why didn't this get fixed under eight years of clinton and eight years of obama and democrat leadership in every failing american city is democrat leadership, period. but they are suddenly going to get the light bulb and fix it, i don't think so. >> during that boring debate, that ratings nightmare boring debate that they just had, they were trying to tiptoe around the fact that the major issues that they seem to be fixed in america were issues that were predominant during the obama administration. in the trying to make this big race issue as if blacks are waking up in the morning saying we hate whitey and whitey is waking up in the morning saying i hate blacks. that's not happening. they are trying to create this narrative, they want a racial divide so they can blame it on this president and then they act as if this president -- if you

were alive in the '60s and you had a civil rights encounter, that somehow -- from any criticism by white people. the president was right. there are areas in baltimore that are filthy, red-infested, dilapidated rundown places that no human being should have to live in. and because he said it there's a scripture in the bible that says buy therefore become your enemy because i tell you the truth and i don't see t any resident from those areas -- no resident in those areas of come out and said hey, o it's not so bad here. we like it here. >> laura: elijah cummings in 1999, dan -- this is what elijah cummings said aboutum baltimore. >> this morning i left my community of baltimore, a drug-infested area where a lot of the drugs that we are talking about today have already taken

the lives of so many children. same children that i watched 14 or 15 years ago as they grew up now walking around like zombies. this is only 40 miles away from here. >> laura: okay, so ten years later, dan, the problem apparently is worse and eight of those years were obama years. 20 years, excuse me. >> has also video of a sender calling it a ghetto, baltimore. he's a democrat, by the way. if we can argue the language all day. as i opened up the segment saying, you don't like the president a bunch of his language, you don't like his queens style, fine, i get it. suggesting that it's racist is utterly, completely ridiculous and absurd. people have used the same language. you just played the clip. canp. we point out just a few facts? baltimore has the same homicide

rate as new york city despite one 14th of the people -- not right -- number of homicides. if the baltimore schools -- i saw a stunning number the othern day. a third of baltimore city high schools, do not many kids were proficient in math? zero. a goose egg, nonburied >> laura: it's a failed state. nightmare, has to be fixed, but the idea the democrats who have been in power for decades in the cities have the answers is demonstrably false. dan and d pastor scott. great analysis as always, love having you on we will get back to our superstar panel in just a moment. but first, let's go live to the debate spin room where peter doocy is standing by. peter, what are youu hearing? >> we expect some candidates here in a few minutes. in fact, cory booker is just giving his closing argument and he might have had the most clickable sound bite of the night. it was an attack that he hinted

about joe biden's record. supported the tough on crime 1994 bill, that it led to mass incarceration. biden shot back that booker was a supporter of stop and frisk as theok mayor of newark and that s when cory booker said this. >> there was nothing done for the entire eight years he was mayor. if thereht was nothing done to deal with the police department that was corrupt. why did you announce in the first day a zero tolerance policy of stopop and frisk? >> mr. vice president, there's a thing in my community, you're dipping into kool-aid, you don't even know the flavor. >> and booker also owns the distinction -- he was the first person who was interrupted by a protester, something that was a problem throughout the course of the debate last night. it's on like people were shouting about various things as you can hear in this montage.

>> [inaudible] >> standby, senator. >> i will stand by. >> and to make sure it's a culture that puts working people first. >> thank you, mayor de blasio. >> [inaudible] >> please be respectful. please be respectful in the crowd.in >> the line to get into the fox auditorium did start queuing up around lunchtime, but as you can see, some of those people want to get a really good seats so they were as close the microphone as possible for that. laura. >> laura: peter, thank you so much. we will be standing by now. back to our panel, reince priebus, byron york, dennis kucinich. here is what some said was the s greatest threat that we face as a country. okay, we don't have it. okay, here we go, we have it.

okay, we don't have it.bi the greatest threat is sound bites, so don't't play them. one of the things we got out of this is the democrats for them, the climate change, they think they will get the young people to turn out. reminiscent of gore in 2000, but it's now worse. we actually heard andrew yang say people should move to higher ground. we had mike ensley say that either vote for me or basically we are all going to die. that was his closing statement. tulsi gabbard said both for me or basically we're going to have nuclear holocaust. i'm summing it up, but that's basically what itho was. you would never think that we had a record economy and consumer confidence, retail spending, all of this up, up, up. it you would never think that. it sounds like almost where living in the depression. >> right, they are going to have to deal with the trumpl economy. the trump record is outstanding and i think talking about his record is what the republicans need to do, but you know these

issues -- climate change is an important issue, i guess. but it doesn't resonate with voters. i hate to break it to everyone. people are horribly offended by those comments. through the prism of wisconsin, pennsylvania and michigan, is the issue of seeking higher ground because of flooding the issue that's going to win and election? there's the other thing, who votes in primary elections? another unpopular comment to i make his people who are 25 younger unfortunately don't really turn out in primary elections. >> laura: theyn think they have a turn on machine though. they think they have a turnout machine this time. >> they think they have. >> laura: we will see. >> they are trying to win the primary. wen. have to play what castro sd about the economy. i referenced earlier, watch. >> there are a lot of americans now who areen hurting. the idea that america is doing just fine is wrong.

this president always likes to take credit like he did's this. we've now had about 105 straight months of positive job growth, the longest streak in american history. over 80 months of that was due to president barack obama. thank you, barack obama. >> laura: such just so -- it's sad because manufacturing jobs obviously 470,000 from trump. >> that's the best they can do. because the economy is good, they have to try to invest voters that her mother things are more important than the economy. a number of articles, most democrats cite some other issue when asked what's the most important issue facing the country today. usually people say it's jobs at the economy, but -- >> laura: immigration is big. >> they will put immigration off thee list, they will put health care up at their list. sometimes people will put gun violence. it democrats will put gun violence or climate change. joe biden started his campaign with a video about

charlottesville. the idea was to say that there's something -- >> laura: the soul. he referenced that in his closing statement. >> the soul of this nation is in danger. that's what you do when you have a good economy and you can't talk about that. >> laura: nafta was brought up today and we haven't talked enough about this. very important, especially for those midwest battleground states.. watch. >> vice president i believe you're the only person on the stage of voted for the originalr nafta. are you ready to say here and now that you oppose a new nafta? >> yes. >> your response? your response, sir? >> yes. >> i consider that a victory. >> i love your affection for me. you spend a lot of time with me. >> we believe in redemption, joe. we believe in redemption in his party. >> well, i tell you what, i hope you're part of it. >> laura: i don't know if any of them actually know what's in the usmca but how is this working for them on the trade issue? >> you have to start with bill clinton and nafta.

nafta, workers rights, human threats, environmental principles. if there was a destructive undermining of a democratic constituency once the party did not deliver on the promises to remedy some of those deficiencies. >> laura: obama said he would renegotiate. he said that, but he didn't. >> i want to say though that candidates do have an obligation to express a sense of urgency about those things that they see coming up that could present a problem for the country and climate change, national and global challenge, the potential of wider war as tulsi gabbard pointed out -- >> laura: who kept us out of more wars -- more military involvement than from? again, he's taken so many of these issues off thehe table. >> he's taken them off the table but at the same time i think -- >> laura: he wants a better relationship with russia. we can't even talk to russia anymore. that was never mentioned tonight again. mueller, trunk allusion wasn't

mentioned last night and wasn't mentioned tonight. boy how things change. >> one that was going on more than year ago i sawha it coming and i predicted it and the democrats want the wrong way on the whole thing. >> laura: they wasted how many years? on mueller and russia collusion and they hope -- r he's going to testify, we are going to get something out. now we're looking that comey might be in some trouble. >> to this point that you brought up on what's happening here with the democrats in this debate, if the election were just about all trump, any incumbent, you're always going to have a competitive race in a presidential race. but what these democrats are doing is taking the voters in pennsylvania, michigan, and wisconsin who may not like everything trump does, but they're looking at these democrats and they are saying i don't like everything trump does but these people are crazy. and i talked to people today that represent farmers across america and i asked themho are farmers sticking with drum? talk about the china trade deal and they are nervous about it.

they've got traps stomach crops in the field. they are sticking with trump. the liquid is doing. they know that they need to take this bike to china and i asked the question, why are they sticking with trump if they are nervous about the china deal? because they think the democrats are crazy. in the democrats are killing themselves with these debates and i just -- i think that the winter tonight, started listing from the beginning, trump is the winner and biden is in second -- >> laura: biden apparently -- we don't have it yet but we will have it in a moment. biden might have made a screwup in his closing statement by urging people to go to his website joe 3030. i believe that's what he said. i want to hear for myself, but that's what i understand. it can happen. >> you can be optimistic. >> laura: it can happen. it can be optimistic! that satirical video. now it's biden 3030. byron, from last night to tonight, the progressivesas last

night -- you have progressives on stage tonight but you had delaney and you had montana -- you had some more kind of blue-collar voices. rich, but he was speaking for the private sector. what did you note in the differences between the large panel? >> it was a huge difference and when the day comes we have a smaller field and you have warren and sanders and then you have biden there, two on one or one on two. that could be really, really interesting, interesting matchup. but last night what was kind of interesting was there was as lot of talk about what democrats should be and it was a progressive saying that if you don't agree with us, then you're really just giving outre republican talking points. we democrats believe one thing, and that's the progressive agenda. at what you've seen is this constant tension between them and the fact that joe biden is leading by so many points. if that doesn't seem to be actually selling with their

voters. >> laura: i'm going to go back to what i said at the beginning and you can take it apart, there was no one on thatin stage tonit with that charisma and that drive, that singular drive to take this all the way to the finish line excepte, biden. he might've screwed up the 2020 -- might not be that joe biden of 20 years ago, but he's done this for a long time. it gets the ebbs and flows of campaigns. he ran himself and lost a couple of times too but i didn't see it. i just didn't see it. at that they are not interesting people. maybe they have interesting ideas, but this takes a huge amount to want to compete at this level, as you know.. and reince priebus was there in the trenches.he >> he comes across as a guy -- i don't disagree with you but he also comes across as a guy was running on a half a tank of gas. and we willha see. the one thing that these presidential campaigns do is really test your fortitude and your energy and i just don't know if he's got that.

>> laura: he seemed tired towards land. >> the party is looking for its center and its split right now. and i think that this process hopefully will cause some kind of coalescing where you see a ticket that balances these apparently conflicting interests within a aba party. >> laura: michael bennet was tonight's john delaney. more off the business-focused democrat. again, seem to be a little bottom step with today's democrat party. actually in favor of still having a private sector.ct watch. >> this has nothing to do with republican talking points for the pharmaceutical industry. this has to do with having faith in the american people that they can make the right decisions for their families and they can choose a public option. don't try to distract from the truth. >> thank you, senator. truth can't hide from the truth. >> i think delaney was a better delaney than bennett was but i think the biggest dynamic -- go back to the 2016gg republican race, 17 candidates.

i think the simplest dynamic was trumpp was big and the other candidates were just small. that's kind of the same thing with this whole group, are any of them of the stature of the president right now? they will grow if they would make the nomination, but my goodness -- speeone, harris just faded away. >> all of the samed flavor andhe donald trump, the reverse is happening here. you have all theni same flavor. the problem with bennett and he can look for and these guys -- they are not going to get that lane. biden owns that lane. >> laura: wise biden meeting, harris -- he's doing better -- >> he's been around the scene for so long -- >> african-american voters over the age of 50 and those people wer the age of 50 who are likely african-american voters -- >> laura: criminal justice reform. >> similar to what you saw in 2007 with hillary clinton bleeding up against barack obama, bleeding among

african-american voters all over the place. oncela he does well in iowa, thy say that barack obama is not a protest candidate, he is a real bona fide top-drawer candidate, boom, they support him. >> laura: doesn't make you think also the 2016 elizabeth warren should have just knocked down the clintons to run? that was her time. looking back on -- it's easy, 20/20 hindsight but that was really her time to run. you want to run as a real -- it got to take the clintons to run. it's like trumpeter take on the bushes or do what he could to distance himself. but it's a hard fit now because trump has changed the chessboard on the issue of trade -- >> chris christie 2012. >> change the chessboard, but there is something that have to keepg. in mind and this is the paradox of the primary season where you're speaking to people who vote in primaries but the truth is you are speaking to the whole country and you got to be

careful. >> laura: they were all out on open borders tonight though. other than biden and maybe bennett, it was basically you come, you stay, we will embrace you. can't afford, can't attain. children apparently who came alone have to just be released into the country. most of the people -- kids are being detained. we don't know who their parents are. that's why they are being detained. not because we are mean. >> this is a lot of centrist democrats were because they're basically saying the act of crossing the border illegally is not illegal and you cannot be detained. that is an effective open border policy. that is not where the american public is in last night -- you might want to at least ring the doorbell. >> laura: noted taming, no deportation. okay. trump wins that debate every da day.

that is all the time weag have tonight. a phenomenal analysis from this panel. great job in new york and washington. getting all that -- shannon bream and the "fox news @ night" team take it all from here live in detroit. coverage of the second round of democratic presidential debate, i'm live in detroit again tonight. can difference candidates facing off tonight, 10 different candidates. last night showed rad kl differences. tonight the highly anticipated rematch of former vice president joe biden and california senator kamala harris. now, unfortunately, for the former v.p. she wasn't the only one taking direct aim, biden faced attackses on immigration to criminal justice reform. we have fox team coverage tonight on spin room duty again.