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lives of several children. and a young mother of three, giving her life to protect her baby. >> i'm looked at as a hero for it, but that wasn't the reason for me. i'm just focused on all the ki kids. >> i think the father tried to shield him. then she shielded him. there is no way. >> i would give my life and pray for her. any day, i would give my life. >> bill: that was from el paso. then 13 hours later, dayton, ohio. 30 seconds was all the gunmen needed to kill 3 people, includg his own sister appeared rapid

fast police response. less than a minute, shooting that killer in the street. >> dispatch. we've got shots fired. we've got multiple people down. we are going to need paramedics. >> i've got everybody coming to you. >> we think there is one shooter. he is down. >> sandra: authorities treating the el paso shooting as domestic terrorism as they examine an anti-emigrant manifesto believed written by the suspect. the president and first lady condemning the attack. >> i just want to say that these are two incredible places. we love the people. hate has no place in our country. we have to get her to stop. this has been going on for years. years and years in our country. we have to get her to stop here at be once we start with fox coverage from byron york and a melon. mike tobin is standing by live with the latest and dayton,

ohio. joe powell the mike dunn mike jeff, hello. >> and the memorial here outside of the walmart where the shooting happened, it continues to grow as more and more people show up. they tried to honor the 20 people who were murdered in this attack. you can see that there is still a heavy law enforcement presen presence. the shooting happened, and we could expect that for the coming days as investigators methodically pieced together this massive crime scene. prosecutors are now moving forward with this capital murder case, treating it as a domestic terrorism case. they say they're going to pursue the death penalty. there is also a manifesto of sorts that investigators are looking into as well that was posted online, supposedly before the shooting. they are trying to confirm if it was in fact written by the suspected shooter. officials who has read it say it is full of vulgar language

and -- >> it is this hate that is at the root of much suffering in our country, and when we fail to pull it out, we give it cover. there are deadly consequences to bigotry, racism, and hate. there are deadly consequences to dehumanizing our fellow human beings. domestic terrorism is one of those deadly consequences. >> investigators say after the suspected shooter killed 20 people and injured more than two dozen others, he gave himself up to police. the police say that he is cooperating and is being rather forthcoming with information, going beyond just the typical yes and no when they ask him questions. we also know that he is from allen texas, which is about a ten hour drive from el paso. that is a suburb north of dall dallas. family spokesperson read a statement that was written by

the grandparents of the suspected shooter. >> we are devastated by the events of el paso. we pray for the victims of this tragedy. he lived with us and our house and allen, texas. while he attended junior college. that focus has made us a focus of media, of course. we are talking only to law enforcement agencies. >> coming back here live, you can really see the spirit of this committee do my community here in el paso. "as one, we can overcome." this is what we have really been seeing in the day and day and a half since the shooting. we have seen memorials and vigils, and the mayor here, says that what happened at this walmart is now something that represents this community, and they are going to be stronger as the day goes on. >> bill: go to work over the weekend and again today.

live and el paso. >> sandra: dayton, ohio, police releasing footage, showing officers running towards like on fire. 30 seconds after the shooter opened fire late saturday night, it was all over, leaving nine people dead, including the suspect's sister. >> if dayton police had not gotten to the shooter in under a minute, 2600, nine dead, you figure that hundreds of people . >> sandra: we will hear more from the mayor of dayton, ohio, at half as they are. mike. >> sandra, once again, you have people in a traumatized community piling up flowers, all they can do to memorialize my labs snuffed out so senselessly on saturday night and sunday morning. meanwhile, police have released a video that panic people

running from the gunfire. ultimately, you will see the shooter, shooting indiscriminately as he attempts to enter net peppers bar. six police officers shoot him dead. two former classmate saying that the gunman was one suspended for compiling a hit list of suspects and a rape list of girls he wanted to sexually assault. there was nothing that would have prevented him from legally purchasing of the guns used in this massacre. >> there is nothing in this individual's history or records i would have precluded him from purchasing that firearm. >> is that illegal? >> there is no indication of that, that it is illegal at this time. >> police say about the gunmen drove to dayton with his sister and an acquaintance and their

parents gray toyota corolla. that sister was one of the first people killed in this massacre. i just spoke with residential hopeful tim ryan. he is calling for a ban on assault weapons and background checks, noting that the public sentiment is very high, and the national rifle association is in a state of turmoil. he says maybe this is the time that gun control advocates can put a knife in the heart of the nra. >> sandra: mike tobin, thank you. >> bill: as the country mourns, several 2020 democrats are quick to point the finger at the present, starting on sunday morning and again today, demanding new gun-control legislation. >> you talk about mexicans as criminals and rapists. you have unstable people who see that as a sign that they have to take up arms. >> the environment that we have created in the united states, that the president has created in the united states, this

echoes the kind of language that our president encourages. >> there is no question that white nationalism is condoned at the highest levels of our government. >> donald trump is responsible for this. >> bill: byron york with me now. good morning to you. the president is going to speak in about an hour. what does this say about him? >> he raised a lot of hopes with a tweet this morning, saying that congress should he called strong background checks on gun purchases. he did mention that perhaps that would be combined with immigration reform, which would probably be a nonstarter with democrats, but universal background checks have long been a goal for gun-control advocates. and these would be background checks out a plan not to just purchases from a gun dealer, but

from so-called gun show purchases, private party purchases. it has long been a goal. if the president actually supports it, it is possible that something could happen on that issue now. >> bill: here is the tweet that you reference now. "we cannot let those killed in el paso, texas, and dayton, ohio, die in vain. likewise for those so seriously wounded. we can never forget them, and those many who came before them. republicans and democrats must come together and get strong background checks, perhaps marrying this legislation with desperately needed immigration reform. we must have something good, if not great, come out of these two tragic events!" that is what you were referring to. what do you think of the democratic reaction? >> it's absolutely to be expected. there is a lot of them. there's a lot of media time to be talking. it's just not a surprise that they would be blaming the president for this. the big question here is going

to be whether anything is actually done, and you have to remember, we have had horrific mass shootings in the past, and congress has not done anything about it. in the newtown massacre, 20 children between the ages of six and seven were murdered, and congress didn't do anything after that, so it's entirely possible that emotions are high now. they will be talking about action, and nothing will be done. there is one big difference, i should mention. it depends on how sincere, how determined the president's, but also the nra. the national rifle association. basically in turmoil now. leadership changes, scandal spirit all sorts of internal disarray. it may not be as effective on the hill as it has been in years past. >> bill: near post cover. here it is. president trump, america is scared. we need bold action. it is interesting to point out that you think something could

be different now. you had clearly away nationalist in el paso. dayton, ohio, it's a different story. this man has a track record of being a very disturbed individual, going back to his days in high school. >> you are absolutely right about that. there is so much attention to white nationalism and whatever the president has said, that some democrats say for both of the shootings, but you are absolutely right. we have one shooting, the one in el paso, and which white nationalism appears to be a factor. then we have another one in dayton, in which it appears to be not a factor at all. it is true that both of these shooters appear to be profoundly alienated young men, which is exactly the way other shootings have worked there. it is exactly like so many other mass shooters in the united states, but there will probably be because of politics a disproportionate emphasis on the el paso shooting.

>> bill: byron, thank you. we will see what the president says an hour from now. >> sandra: we will have much more on these attacks coming up this hour with nan whaley, we look forward to speaking with her. national security advisor john bolton will be joining us to be live. a lot to talk with him about, but of course, we will get reaction. >> bill: that mary and dane, she has really been the face and the voice for her community. in the persian gulf, iran's regime saying that it has seized yet another oil tanker. the foreign minister blames the u.s. yet again. general jack keane reacts on that again. what we need to know next. >> the united states is not interested in diplomacy, period. had they been interested in diplomacy, they would not have left a diplomatic table for negotiations, which existed, but out there disposal.

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>> bill: sent us flying under the radar a little bit appeared before, an iraqi ship that they say was smuggling fuel to several arab states. retired four-star general jack keane. good morning to you. where do you think this is going right now? it is not letting up, general. >> well, they were executing their playbook here. right from the beginning, they tried to this loved tell mike tell mike disrupt did not work. part of the nuclear deal to get the europeans to provide economic assistance to them. europeans rejected that. that hasn't worked. now, they are seizing the third tanker. again, it is back to disrupting the oil flow. i don't believe it is going to work. why? because the europeans in the united states are stitching together a coalition to protect those tankers and keep that oil flow going. what the iranians want is an

economic crisis as a result of this disruption of oil, which will force the united states to back off on the sanctions. i don't see it happening. >> bill: here is the foreign minister who had sanctions slapped on him. "the u.s. is standing alone in the world and cannot create a coalition in the gulf." i don't know, are we so alone on this? >> no, not at all. the u.k. very much in the lead here. denmark, netherlands, france, trying to work other nations as well you're not counting the arab states who certainly are all going to contribute. that is not an issue. second longer to put it together comprehensively because there are so many nations involved, but it is not a question of lack of wealthier germany, and decisive. shameful on them that they are not willing to participate, given what they represent in europe, but i don't think about is an issue. >> bill: we are going to talk to the mayor in dayton, ohio, in a few minutes. in the meantime, el paso, it

could be a death penalty case. here is the -- >> we are treating it as a domestic terrorism case. and we are going to do what we do to terrorists in this country, which is deliver swift and certain justice. >> bill: we expect that to be carried out. >> there is no doubt about that. it just dealing with that issue, i was surprised to see that we have these cases active in the u.s. right now. we had 1,000 last year. we made over 100 arrests. this is the fbi now. they would indicate to us that the hate version of this, and terms of racial hate, involves about 40% of it. that is on the rise. clearly, we have got to get our arms around this, creating an awareness, hopefully we will let law enforcement do their work, but most of these people, they are living among us, bill.

they do their work, they have families, they are alienated, to be sure, as we can see as a common denominator, but still, there are people. their behavior. they are clearly identifying themselves as to who they are to us. >> bill: thank you, general. jack keane in washington. we will get some press conferences out of those towns and bring them to you. thank you, sir. >> take care, bill. >> sandra: new video coming into our newsroom right now, showing the terrifying moments out the gunman opened fire in that texas walmart. you can see a man they are laying down, hiding from the shooter, as shots rang out. less than one hour from now, president trump will be addressing the nation, following those weekend attacks. we will bring that to the unit

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>> sandra: canadian police searching a river for two teenagers accused of killing three people, including an american woman and her boyfriend. a specialized dive team was deployed after discovering a damaged rowboat among the shore. what are we learning about that? >> the search has shifted to manitoba, where investigators spotted this damaged aluminum boat along the shore that they think could be connected to the marathon manhunt now entering another week. it is dominic much needed lead in the case. bryer schmegelsky and kam mcleod. releasing these photos of the boat that they found, which some have called the biggest breakthrough i in the case in

recent days. it is the small northern manitoba town where police believed they dumped their stolen toyota rav4 on july 23rd and disappeared. they say they dispatch that the underwater recovery team with specialized a diver, searching a section of the river with any clues or signs of them on the run. the police in canada announced they would be scaling back their man aunt after extraordinary difficult search it turned but no new leads in the case. lucas fowler and his american girlfriend, chynna deese, were found shot to death july 15th. you will remember, four days later, the body of leonard dix was also discovered. survival experts have said that they would struggle to stay alive if they attempted to hide in the swampy, bug infested wilderness without shelter and equipment. we will have more as it

continues today. >> sandra: thank you. >> bill: wall street said to open considerably lower this morning. the u.s. and china are deadlocked on tariffs and trade, and the talk that goes back and forth, so we will see where we go in a moment here. >> sandra: and as an ohio community mourns, questions about the shooter's troubling past. we will hear from the president himself. first, the mayor of dayton, ohio, will be joining us. that is next. >> we came here tonight to unite, to show each other hey, regardless of what has just happened, i want to be here. people are hungry for an answer. when did you see the sign?

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"china drops the price of the currency. it's called "currency manipulation." are you listening federal reserve? this is a major violation which will greatly weaken china over time!" we will see where it traits out the morning and into the afternoon. the white house trade advisor weighing in. he and chris wallace went back and forth. there is a sample of that. >> they were put in place back in 2018. the chinese fell by almost 10%. so they offset virtually all of these tariffs, and the consumers are not seeing any price hikes in any significant way. we could have a bigger question about whether tariffs in general might cause rises and consumer prices, but not in this case. >> sandra: it was a really

good debate. >> bill: so we are trading well off of the highs for the dow. all time high, 227,400, roughly. so a good 13 or 1400 points below that. that high mark didn't happen, but a couple of weeks back? >> sandra: the conversation, and no one that peter navarro and chris wallace out over the weekend was the short term pain versus the long-term gain of these tariffs. peter navarro was making the point that this has not affected the consumer yet. chris wallace brought up a lot of data that would forecast that it would eventually hit the consumer, and in some cases, it already is. it is a debate that is going to continue as long as the president continues to more tariffs. >> bill: he suggested that he could go even tougher on china to exact more change, perhaps, but it seems like these two sides have really dug in, sandra, to a point where there is very little room for

movement, i should say to try and get a real tree deal done in the long term. >> sandra: why does the president keep going tough on china? intellectual property theft. a lot of folks back of the president being tough on china, but when you see how this hits our agricultural sector and the farmers, it becomes a very emotional argument and a back-and-forth that continues in these markets right now. a lot of uncertainty. as you know, markets do not like uncertainty. >> bill: the chinese run government has told their state owned industries what to do, and they have told some of their state run industries not to sell agricultural products to the united states. i mean, that is stuck at the moment. we will see what gives. >> the officers immediately advanced towards the gunfire, and within approximately 20 seconds, they engage the suspect. the threat was neutralized after

approximately 30 seconds of the suspect firing his first shots. he was wearing a mask, a bulletproof vest, and hearing protection. he was armed with a .223 caliber like rifle with the 100 ground magazines. >> sandra: we await president trump is addressed to the nation. that will be happening 30 minutes from now. meanwhile, new surveillance footage. the suspect wearing a bulletproof vest, a mask it, and hearing protection, as authorities say he opened fire outside of a bar late saturday night and a popular nightlife district, killing nine people, including his own sister, all in the span of 30 seconds. joining us now, nan whaley. good morning to you. i know it has been a rough couple of days. how is your community doing this morning? >> well, good morning.

we are resilient, we are gritty. we are sad, but we always of the community come together. and i have not been surprised at how our community has responded. we had a vigil last night in the oregon district at 8:00 p.m. it was an enormous crowd of people coming together. people that were sad for our community. and people who wanted to take action as well. >> sandra: the president is about to address the nation from now, what would you like to hear from him? >> well, i talked to the president yesterday. he called to offer his condolences. we did have a discussion around why this kind of gun even exists in our communities. you know, this person, the shooter bought this gun legally, and did so much damage in the course of 30 seconds. it really begs the question why does anyone need to have this

sort of gun? and i share that with the president. he was open to that. i was pleased with that. you know, for us indian, as mayor, we have to take care of our families, take care of the victims, really, the 250 is a mass shooting, we really want columbus and d.c. to take some action and do their job. >> sandra: you heard that when he and the first lady responded, they say this has to end. when you questioned the legality of what this particular shooter was using, what did you mean -- what did the president say? >> well, he asked what other people in the community were thinking about it. he agreed that the amount of damage someone can do in the space of 24 seconds was pretty

horrific. you know, we had police officers at the scene, so six officers that were acting heroically, running towards the shooter, and if they had not been there, this shooter would have gotten into an establishment, and hundreds would have been dead on sunday morning instead of nine. and i think the president recognize that. now, it's not my job to decide the action for congress, but i just really want to know when is enough enough? is it going to be -- dayton is the 250th city. as a going to be the 300 city in america this year? or the 400th? when are we going to do something about this kind of violence? >> sandra: god bless those first responders. in this instance, within 30 seconds of that government opening fire outside of the bar, he was shot and killed by police. thank god for those policemen that were there and acted so

quickly. have you been able to talk with them? >> yes, they have been quite heroic there as per the normal standard of any officer-involved shooting there. five of the six officers i responded had only been on the police office dominic force for three years, which is amazing. they are really well-trained. our police and fire responders have been through a lot this summer. in may, we had devastating hurricanes, 14 of them that tore through our communities. and then this action, one is an act of god. another is completely preventable, and that is what i am hoping that washington and columbus will start doing something about making this more preventable so we don't have to have these communities going through this.

>> sandra: that is amazing. five of the six police officers that responded had only been on the police force three years or less. unbelievable. thank you to them. the motive of this attacker, we know that his sister was among the victims. anything else you can tell us about that this morning, mayor? >> well, unfortunately, we have more questions and we have answers around motive. this was a young man that lived in the suburbs of dayton. there are different stories based on who people have talked to you. you get a very different sense of who this person is based on my conversation. and so, honestly, we may never know the motive of this man. and if that is painful for us because of course, we always want more answers, and sometimes, the answers are there. >> sandra: there are reports that when he was a student in high school, that this shooter was obsessed with guns. have you learned firsthand any other evidence of that?

>> i have an out. i have just seen the reports that the news media outlets have put forward. >> sandra: your community has a long way to heal, i'm sure. a lot of work to do. we are all grieving with dayton, ohio, this morning. we appreciate you coming out with us this morning. >> i appreciate it. dayton is gritty, resilient city. this tragedy will not define us, but how we respond will define us. >> sandra: thank you, mayor. >> thank you. >> bill: she has really done an outstanding job in her community throughout the weekend. the voice on the face of this tragedy. there's tornadoes in may, they ripped through the community, it has a lasting effect, but this thing here, when you consider ohio, southeast of town, it is a quiet little community. just the description that you get from what the fbi and the police have done. you go to this cul-de-sac, it is

quiet, the lawns are very nice and organized, and it is a slice of everyday america. that is where this young man was living, and what he was thinking back in high school, as you point out without question, what he was thinking since then, it is far beyond us to try to figure it out this morning. the answers to that. >> sandra: now a community has to heal. as we heard from the mayor there at the top, they are gritty, but it will take time. >> bill: to the cops in dayton, ohio, you can just see the image of them taking action. bravo. bravo. and a moment here, president trump saying that hate has no place and our country. the deadly shootings in ohio and texas, what will he say? what can he say to bring americans together? a minister and former governor, mike huckabee, has a message about this. we are going to hear from the governor coming up next.

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i know in your last life as governor, part of your job was responding to the people in your state. go ahead and give it a shot to the people of the country who are watching. what would you say? >> in the aftermath of anything like this, we experience the school shooting in 1998. the one thing that has to be given his comfort and care. that is the most important single thing to bring some level of identifying with the people who are genuinely irreparably broken by this tragedy. the second thing is to let the criminal justice system do its work. that is an important part of this whole process, and the third factor is to look for the cure. what because of this? what really caused it, and what can we try to do to try and alleviate it? recognizing that we are not going to get rid of every act of violence because there is evil in the world. people choose to live by their thoughts, feelings, and beliefs, rather than something objective, like what god tells us to do,

loving other people. that will never happen perfectly, and we will continue to see if it happens because of political ideology. bill, what troubles me over the weekend was that some people, before the bodies had even been removed from the walmart in el paso, many candidates for public office already making this a political point. already believing that they have all of the answers, and i just find that distractive and not very helpful to ultimately bringing some type of solution to this level of hatred. at this level of violence, that just divides and hurts all of us. >> bill: a few things he said in his tweet this morning. one of them was about strong background checks. do you have an answer for that would be? >> i don't know that anybody has the perfect answer, but certainly, being able to screen those people who have tendencies towards mental illness and quite

frankly, with all the disadvantages of social media, and it does, i believe, fuel a lot of hate and animosity, it also reveals a lot, and i think we could screen a lot of people social media and really realize that there are some warning signals being given out as apparently was being given out by this kid in ohio. and it was certainly true in parkland. but you know, we tell people if you see something, say something, and then if you say something, they are accused of being bigoted. they are accused of being a biased, and then they get in trouble. so we are going to have to make our decisions. do we want people to speak up when they see somebody doing something that could lead to destructive behavior? i think we do, and you don't give people like that firearms. they are not mentally capable of it. >> bill: he drove to the bar with a sister and companion. they apparently got out of his

trunk locked and loaded, literally. going back to the background checks. desperately needed immigration reform. do you see a way that that can happen, or can you tie those two together here, governor? >> well, they don't naturally belong together, let's be honest. there is not a conjunction the there. there is not a connection. i think what he's looking for there is the political possibility that there are people who really, really want some reform and background checks, and people who really want reform and immigration, and if they want them bad enough, are they willing to compromise? that's how government works. they get something that they want, they give up something that they don't like, and then you come up with something that everybody gets a little of what they like. nobody gets at all. i have often thought, bill, that in politics, if your attitude is all or nothing, you're going to

get nothing, and you're going to get it all the time. >> bill: one last comment personally. how did you -- you know, you see the news on saturday, you go to bed, you wake up sunday morning. i think so many people had shared a reaction. like "not again." not twice in the span of 13 hours. >> you know, the el paso shooting was i got punched to begin with. so many innocent people just out saturday shopping, then you wake up sunday morning, and and it is just devastating. emotionally, for every american, it is devastating we don't want to believe that fellow citizens would do this to people who have harmed them in no way. that is what is troubling. we realize that we could be the victim. it could be asked. but by the grace of god, it would have been. it is a horrible thing, but let's be real clear. a common denominator is not the particular weapon. it is i hate inside the heart.

it is the loss of morality. it is that disconnecting from a god who values all people, and would never want you to do that to another person because i would be basically doing it to god and to myself, to just destroy another human life. that is just not how we are hardwired from the father above. that is what i believe hurts me the most is that we have got a lot of our country that are utterly disconnected from any sense of identity, with their creator, and with his love for them, and with his love for the people that they hate. >> bill: thank you, governor. mike huckabee, thank you so much for your words of wisdom today. >> thanks. you bet, bill. >> sandra: moments from now, the president will be speaking live from the white house. addressing the nation following back-to-back massive shootings in el paso, texas, and in ohio. he is expected to take to that microphone at 10:00 a.m. eastern

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>> sandra: we are wedding remarks from the president as america mourns 29 people killed in mass shootings over the weekend. in el paso, texas, killing 20 people before he surrendered. just 13 hours later, in dayton, ohio, a heavily armed man wearing body armor open fire outside of a bar. nine people were killed there within 30 seconds before he was shot dead by police. sharing stories of horror and heroism. >> i wasn't really paying attention, but i heard -- like closer together. that is when i thought it was gunshots. >> i don't want to think about

it because i was a tragedy. i'm telling you, this was the worst thing i have ever been through in my life, and i don't want to keep having flashbacks of what happened. >> sandra: this is a live shot of the white house. this scene, following the mascara dayton, the tragedies have sparked renewed calls for action. 2020 democrats hitting the sunday shows, pressing the need for gun control, while republicans and the white house say the issue needs more than just a quick fix. >> after every mass shooting, we say how long until the next one? in this case, they answer was a matter of hours. sooner or later, we have to face up to a fact that we live in the only country in the world with more guns than people and the only country in the world where this happens all the time. >> there is also a discussion of analyzing the laws that are on the box today. >> the president is just as saddened by this as you are, just as angry, and wants to do

something about it just as much as everybody else does. >> sandra: the cover of "the new york post" this morning. "urging the president to take action on assault weapons." indicating on twitter that he is open. "we can't stomach cannot let those killed at die in vain, likewise for those so seriously wounded. we can never forget them, and those many who came before them. republicans and democrats must come together and get strong background checks, perhaps marrying this legislation with desperately needed immigration reform. we must have something good, if not great, come out of these two tragic events!" and tragic, they were a pure horrible over the weekend. bill, i heard you say, when speaking to the governor a few moments ago, it can't be happening again. we were all thinking that. >> bill: i think collectively that was the reaction. as for dayton, ohio, in that city has its share of violence. gang violence.

the mayor would freely admit that, but this part of town was considered a mostly safe yet it is 1:00 in the morning, it is visited by countless young people every weekend. just on the eastern edge of downtown dayton, ohio. and when you think about some of the surveillance video that we have watched, sandra, and the cops and the way that they reacted, it was just remarkable. and if you can kill nine people in 30 seconds, imagine what you could do in 2 minutes. and these police officers took this killer down and stopped it in its tracks. >> sandra: 5 out of 6 officers that ran forward in that 30 seconds had only been on the police force for three years or less. so they were new to the force, they reacted quickly, and they saved lives. in addition to that, when you look at el paso, the acts of heroism that would take place, the hero that was my mother who shielded her baby and said that

walmart from death, and she got herself. unbelievable stories of those who put themselves ahead of others to save lives and both of these instances, bill. >> bill: in regard to el paso, apparently, this killer wanted to be taken alive. he drove eight hours to get to el paso. when he arrived, we do not know. a lot of those questions are still out there. in regards to dayton, ohio, this really is a big, fat mystery. he killed his sister. his sister drove with him in the car to this spot in downtown dayton, ohio. what will be interesting to hear, as the mayor was saying, we don't have motive, we have a lot of questions. what do the parents have to say? so far, i have not seen anything just yet from them, and certainly, they are in grief at the moment. perhaps they can shed some light as to what was happening in the mind and the heart of their troubled son. >> sandra: to communities who

have a long way to heal. both communities grew this morning, the loss of so many. >> bill: the president will be out in a matter of moments. he had a few words yesterday. he said yesterday that he had spoken with the fbi director and bill barr and a few members of congress. we will see how that is reflected in his remarks. >> sandra: president trump to address the nation at any moment now. those two mass shootings over the weekend that have left america shot, grieving, and demanding answers. welcome to our brand-new hour of "america's newsroom." i'm sandra smith. >> bill: and on bill hemmer. we will go through this together. a gunman killed 20 people at a walmart in el paso. saturday night, sunday morning, dayton, ohio. the president saying that he will speak on this. it tweeting a call for stronger background checks earlier today. here is the mayor, nan whaley,

who talked with sandra just about 30 minutes ago. >> i just really want to know when is enough enough? you know, is it going to be -- dayton is the 250th city. is it going to be the 300 city in america? or the 400th? when are we going to do something about this kind of violence? >> bill: kevin corke leads our coverage this hour. he is live out the white house. let's begin there as we await the president's remarks. >> this is a circumstance where the president has a massive opportunity not just to assume the role of healer and she is, this is a chance for him also to unveil a bold new strategy. a way forward, if you will, to try to keep the country from falling apart. this is just the latest in a long line of devastating attacks on american citizens. 255 mass shootings in our country just in 2019 alone. to say nothing of the scores, if

not hundreds, who have been injured, some of them permanently so. a chance to talk about not just what happened, but a way forward for our country. you mentioned about our president has been active on twitter, i do want to let the people at home know, he has talked about this particular shooting, he has not specifically addressed white extremism or white supremacy. his daughter, ivanka trump, did in a tweet today. it previously assailed all forms of evil, including white supremacy, but has not done so in the wake of what happened in el paso. we continue to await his comments. we do not know what he will say, but certainly, the nation is in desperate need of healing. bill. >> bill: thank you, kevin. from the north lawn there. the now investigating the el paso shooting as domestic terrorism. what is that designation

actually mean? u.s. secret service, she is with us now if your doctor, good morning. what does that mean? >> good morning, bill. thank you for having me. i would like to start off by offering condolences on behalf of the men and women, the families of the victims, as well as the communities impacted. in terms of these incidents, i want to tell you about the secret service as an unparalleled history of prevention of assessing individuals and coming up with mitigation strategies. that is the same model that we use to protect our interests. prevention and the communities. so in answering your question, if you see some of the reports we have really slightly, looking at mass attacks in public spaces, you can see that there is a variety of motives. some of them are ideologically based, but others are related to workplace violence, domestic issues, and so on.

one motive that contributes or because of some to act in this way. >> sandra: doctor, so often, after a tragedy like this, we look back and wonder if there were any signs. if there were any red flags i could have possibly prevented this. what have we seen, and what are we learning about that? >> i can tell you just in the last two years, we have started studying mass attacks, 2017, 2018, because we are seeing about this is a trend. we want to know where they are current? the country wants to know. no community wants this to happen in their space, in their area, so what we are seeing is not for the majority of these perpetrators, they are concerning behaviors. they are eliciting concern and those around them, and those who are concerned range from people who are intimate with them, family and friends, coworkers, all the way to strangers in the community. and i will tell you that in this last report, nearly every single attacker made concerning

communications, whether it was online and to others around them. in addition to communication, they are having other behaviors concern such as escalating anger and aggression, social media postings with concerning content, stalking, harassing, paranoid, so on. what that tells us is that there are avenues for intervention because these people are on the radar. >> bill: doctor, we have been in contact with a lot of people in dayton, ohio, and they say that so far, they are reaching dead ends in terms of motive. how much do you think they really know in these early hours? >> yes, bill, sorry to interrupt. it is very hard to tell. law enforcement are on the ground. federal, state, local partners, working very closely together to try to find out why these things are happening. i can't comment on the ongoing investigation, but i know that law enforcement is doing everything they can, and they will be sharing information once

i have that. you don't want to put out that information to relay. we know that even from our research. trying to get information. but i will tell you that the majority of these perpetrators, from what we've seen, whether it's a school shooter, these incidents are preventable. maybe we won't be able to prevent every single one of them, but there are avenues in terms of identifying these individuals so that we can take care of it, even legal remedies. >> bill: conversely, the killer anna el paso wanted to be taken alive. it looks as though he may have willingly surrendered. what does that indicate to you about what sort of -- what sort of message he wants to carry? >> right. it's hard to read into someone's mind, but i can tell you from the last report that we release, seven of the offenders, seven

left soon after conducting it, but three of them committed suicide. others worked through law enforcement intervention. it is hard to tell. in some of the attacks, you see that someone may have written ahead of time or indicated that they don't intend it to survive, however, they do surrender at the time, so you can't really get to what is inside someone's head. you can just look at the facts, and what the investigation uncovers. >> sandra: we know that officials have announced that they will be holding a news conference at 11:00 a.m. eastern time, likely after the president speaks, so we await that. doctor, thank you for your time this morning. >> bill: terrific information. thank you, doctor. we are going to pause for a moment and allow the fox stations around the country to join us. we believe that we are well within the two-minute warning of that. you should be out momentarily. we saw some nuts being put on the podium, and we should see the president stop in front of

the portrait of george washington in a matter of moments from the white house, so as we await that, we will see what the administration has gone together overnight and what they want to say to us. let's pause there. so, you are looking at live coverage. i am bill hemmer along with sandra smith. we continue to get coverage from the shootings over the weekend. first, el paso, then dayton, ohio. a president trump about to speak from the white house. the deadly mass shootings that have really rocked the nation from this past weekend. when he comes up, we will bring those comments to you. he said after leaving new jersey yesterday that he has been talking with his fbi director, bill barr, and we will see what the messages in a moment. >> sandra: 29 dead. what we have heard from the president, condemning the attacks, and then via twitter, the president saying that he wants something good, if not

great, to come from these tragic events over the weekend. what can he say in this time of tragedy? here is the president. >> president trump: good morning. my fellow americans, this morning our nation is overcome with shock, horror, and sorrow. this weekend, more than 80 people were killed or wounded in two evil attacks. one saturday morning in el paso, texas, a wicked man went to all walmart where families were shopping with their loved ones. he shot and murdered 20 people and injured 26 others, including precious little children. then in the early hours of sunday morning, dayton, ohio, another twisted monster opened fire on a crowded downtown street.

he murdered nine people, including his own sister, and injured 27 others. the first lady and i join all americans in praying and grieving for the victims, their families, and the survivors. we will stand by their side forever. we will never forget. these barbaric slaughters are and assaults along in our communities an attack upon a nation, and a crime against all of humanity. we are outraged and second by this monstrous evil. the cruelty, the hatred, the malice, the bloodshed, and the terror. our hearts are shattered for every family whose parents, children, husbands, wives were ripped from their arms, and their lives. america weeps for the fallen. it we are a loving nation, and

our children are entitled to grow up in just, peaceful, loving society. together, we lock arms to shoulder the grief. we ask god in heaven to ease the anguish of those who suffer, and we vow to act with urgent resolve. i want to thank the many law enforcement personnel who responded to these atrocities with the extraordinary grace and courage of american heroes. i have spoken with texas governor greg abbott and ohio governor mike dewine, as well as mayor dee margo of el paso, texas, and mayor nan whaley of dayton, ohio, to express our profound sadness and our unfailing support. today, we also send the condolences of our nation to the

president of mexico and all the people of mexico for the loss of their citizens in the el paso shooting. terrible, terrible thing. i have also been in close contact with attorney general bill barr and fbi director ray. federal authorities are on the ground, and i have directed them to provide any and all assistance required. whatever is needed. the shooter in el paso posted a manifesto online, consumed by racist hate. and one voice, our nation must condemn racism, bigotry, and white supremacy. these sinister ideologies must be defeated. hate has no place in america. hatred warps the mind, ravages the heart, and devours the soul. we have asked the fbi to

identify all further resources that they need to investigate and disrupt hate crimes and domestic terrorism. whatever they need. we must recognize that the internet has provided a dangerous avenue to radicalize disturbed mayans and perform demented acts. we must shine light on the dark resources of the internet and stop the mass murders they sta start. the internet, likewise, is used for human trafficking, illegal drug distribution, and so many other heinous crimes. the perils of the internet and social media cannot be ignored, and they will not be ignored. in the two decade since columbine, and our nation watched with rising horror and dread as one mass shooting has followed another. over and over again, decade

after decade. we cannot allow ourselves to feel powerless. we can and will stop this evil contagion, and that task, we must honor the sacred memory of those we have lost by acting as one people. open wounds cannot heal if we are divided. we must seek real bipartisan solutions. we have to do that in a bipartisan manner that will truly make america safer and better for all. first, we must do a better job of identifying and acting on early warning signs. i am directing the department of justice to work in partisan partnership with local state and federal agencies as well as social media companies to develop tools that can detect masters before they strike. as an example, the monster in the parkland high school in

florida had many red flags against him, yet nobody took decisive action. nobody did anything. why not? second, we must stop the glorification of violence in our society. this includes the gruesome and grisly video games that are now commonplace. it is too easy today for troubled youth to surround themselves with a culture that celebrates violence. we must stop or substantially reduce this, and it has to begin immediately. cultural change is hard. but each of us can choose to build a culture that celebrates the inherent worth and dignity of every human life. that's what we have to do. third, we must reform our mental health laws to better identify mentally disturbed individuals who may commit acts of violence and make sure those people not

only get treatment, but when necessary, involuntary confinement. mental illness and hatred pulls the trigger, not the gun. fourth, we must make sure that those judged to pose a grave risk to public safety do not have access to firearms, and that if they do, this firearms can be taken through rapid due process. that is why i have called for red flag laws, also known as extreme risk protection orders. today, i am also directing the department of justice to propose legislation, ensuring that those who commit hate crimes and mass murders face the death penalty and that this capital punishment be delivered quickly, decisively, and without years of needless delay. these are just a few of the areas of cooperation that we can

pursue. i am open and ready to listen and discuss all ideas that will actually work and make a very big difference. republicans and democrats have proven that we can join together in a bipartisan fashion to address this plague. the last year we enacted the stop school violence and acts into laws, grants for school safety, and strengthening critical background checks for firearm purchases. my direction, the department of justice band bump stocks. last year, we prosecuted a record number of firearms offenses. but there is so much more that we have to do. now is the time to set destructive partisanship aside. so destructive. to find the courage to answer

hatred with unity, devotion, and love. our future is in our control. americo will rise to the challenge. we will always have, and we always will win. the choice is ours, and ours alone. it is not up to mentally ill monsters. it is up to us. that we are able to pass great legislation after all of these years. we will ensure that those who were attacked will not have died in vain. may god bless the memory of those who perished in toledo. may god protect them. it may god protect all of those from texas to ohio. may god bless the victims and their families. may god bless america. thank you very much. thank you. >> bill: we will see if he takes any questions there

appeared clearly not from the white house. you heard him expressing disdain for the evil attacks that have left america second and outrage. at one point, and one voice, saying that our nation must condemn racism and white supremacy. working with social media companies to identify killers before they strike. stop the gruesome and grisly video games, culture he says that celebrates violence. we must reform mental health laws to identify those who may commit acts of violence before it happens. anthea's red flag laws that he refers to, legislation that will impose capital punishment. stay tuned fo for continuing coverage on the story. el paso and dayton, ohio, and new york city. until then, i'm bill hemmer in new york. when there are developments on these stories, we will bring them to you. until then, so long. as we say so long to our viewers

watching across the country on fox stations, we continue our coverage here on "america's newsroom" on cable. th>> sandra: following up on speaking with the dayton mayor earlier today, saying i am open to discussing all ideas that will work. it let's bring in michael burgess. he represents the 26th district in the dallas-fort worth area. the el paso suspect had previously stay. good morning to you. thank you for joining us. you are listening to the president. what did you take away from his message that? >> can i just say that our hearts are heavy for the loss of our fellow texans. we stand in solidarity with those who lost their family members and loved ones. the president came out with a forceful statement. obviously a statement of conciliation, which the nation needed to hear, but also a statement about the path going

forward. i for 1:00 a.m. glad and to hear the department of justice is willing to step up. you know, the cautionary note that we have all seen, when the information is revealed around the shootings, that there were a number of things that were blinking red, and no one did anything, so i think i heard the congresswoman say this morning on another channel that if you see something that is posted online, take a screenshot, get it to someone. he recommended the fbi. i will go a little further and say your local police or sheriff's office. certainly should be aware of that screenshot that you have saved, but there is no single thing that is going to do this. i like the concept of this temporary gun violence protective order that the president has discussed. if there are red flags, is

law enforcement needs to do something, until the issue was settled, provide all due process protections for law-abiding citizens, but this is one of the things that i think i'm go a long way towards alleviating this problem. >> sandra: you heard so many things there. we condemn white supremacy, reforming mental health laws on this country. he calls for their red flag laws, the death penalty for mass murders, and mass shootings. what did you hear from the president in the wake of so many calls, particularly from democrats running for the presidency, what did you hear from the president as far as their willingness to change or adapt gun laws? >> i think you heard that he was open to suggestion. let me share with you the reality in which i live every day in the united states house of representatives.

there are people in the house of representatives who do not want to give the administration a single win on anything, whether that be a drug crisis, whether that be health care. they do not want to see the president win on anything because they are positioning themselves for 2020. that is perhaps part of the tragedy in the situation. >> bill: can you shed any more light on the investigation and taxes? it is our end dominic understanding that he drove from dallas. do we know why that happened? >> no, i certainly can provide you anything other than what has been available on the national and local news media. obviously, they have contacted the individuals family. i believe his grandparents. they are only talking to law enforcement, not the news media. that is a responsible position for them to take. and of course, when you have these two episodes occur back-to-back, extremely important to know is there something else waiting in the

wings? is there another shoe yet to drop on this? they do appear to be completely unrelated. as far as the individual who left the north texas area to go to el paso, it seems like that was the action of a single individual and not all larger block, and the president also mentioned the death penalty. obviously, the death penalty is alive and well and taxes. this individual is being held without bond in the jail in el paso, and he is being charged with a capital crime, which would be akin to the death penalty. there are federal provisions as well, so i guess the question is where is that going to take place? texas or kansas? i don't care. i wanted to be fast. >> bill: democrats are calling for them to come back to august -- i know you are on the house side, but is not something

that would lead to anything? >> it is hard to know because again, my remarks about no one on the democratic side wanted to give the president a win. it is useful when we get to gather and deliver it. if it is a requirement for the house to come back, i am absolutely okay with that. i think that we should be willing to reschedule anything that we have on the august recess. this is an important part that needs to be done, but realistically, that would be up to nancy pelosi, not one that i could make. >> sandra: we appreciate your time this morning, thank you. >> bill: to john roberts we go now. he is now on the north lawn. good morning. >> good morning to you, bill. the president did not take any questions. it was unusual. he mentioned in a trade this morning that congress needs to come together to act to pass new laws regarding background checks. there was nothing about that in his speech. we asked him on the way out if

he is asking for the senate you reconvene to pass the house bill, regarding closing certainly paul's and background checks. the president wouldn't take any questions. it was significant that we saw him come out and strongly condemn racism, bigotry, and white supremacy. his daughter, ivanka, had a tweet out yesterday, in which she strongly condemn to white supremacy, saying that hate in all forms has to be condemned. we wondered if he would echo the sentiments today, and indeed, he did. we talked about the need to reform mental health laws as well as come together in a bipartisan fashion to do something about this. the question has long been what do you do about it? people on one side of the aisle are calling for a ban on assault-style rifles. people on the other side are saying we have to enforce these mental health rules and laws. we have to reform them so that people who would demonstrate that they may be a threat to

society can actually be monitored. the president would like to see that happen. he also talked about the dark areas of the internet and how it is a place where people who may feel ostracized or somehow shot out of society and other ways get radicalized. the president pointed to the manifesto that the el paso killer had and how he was influenced and was roaming around on the dark web of the internet. he wants to get together with internet and social media companies in order to better monitor these people. on the one side, you will hear this between now and the time that congress comes back. unless it comes back sooner, do you solve this problem with typing out gun laws, or by trying to identify people who are a threat to society? that has long been the debate, and it is probably the debate that will continue. in a very strong bipartisan prompt remembers that congress

on both sides of the aisle, coming together, doing something about this. >> bill: he mentioned to the fbi director and bill barr. who do you think has their ear on this issue, john? >> i think that bill barr probably has his ear to a greater degree. he testified back in april, recently testified about the threat that is coming from white nationalism, white extremism. over the past 18 months. seven mass shootings have been perpetrated by white extremists. christopher wray testified to congress that it is definitely a problem. it is pervasive. something about the fbi's tracking down, though it wasn't specifically singled out in a budget request to try to tackle domestic terrorism that the fbi has submitted to congress. so, they're looking at it. we don't know to what degree. they are putting the focus on

it, but there are a lot of people out there who will tell you that white nationalism, white extremism is a growing threat to this country. and it is perhaps an underreported threat to this country. one that certainly now is being paid a lot more attention to you in the wake of what happened in el paso. what happened in dayton appears to have a different route in terms of its genesis. there are some reports that this individual long had a troubled history, that there were a lot of red flags about this person, the people paid attention to but were never acted on. so that is going to infuse itself in the debate as well. i think that people will tell you that there is no one answer to this. it will take a lot of different pieces of the puzzle. i think the president recognizes that, but he does want to get something done and quickly. >> bill: that phrase, cultural change is hard.

>> it is. >> bill: john roberts at the white house. >> sandra: we just heard from the white house. he addressed the nation moments ago on the mass shootings in texas and ohio. our a-tm is here. they will join us next. >> we ask god in heaven to ease the anguish. it we vow to act with urgent resolve.

>> bill: so, we are watching this in addition to the reaction from the white house now. we are down about 2%, which is -- for any observer of the stock market, significant. 500 points now. below 26,000 for the dow. 30. there was a lot of action over the weekend in regards to the weekend and the trade fight. he will go forward on the first of september, exacting 10%

tariff charge in addition to what has already been slapped on chinese goods. so beijing turned around over the weekend, lower the currency, and told some of the state owned agencies not to sell farm products to the united states, so if you thought we were trying to climb their way out of this, it appears, based on the headlines, that we are far from it. stock-i'm stuck between washington and beijing. this is a result of that. we will see where it goes. sometimes these things have a way of flipping in the afternoon. i don't know if today is that day. >> sandra: full 2% sell-off there. you have major analysts on wall street, saying that this is a trade dispute. trade situation that has gone off the rails at this point. a lot of them, and i reference wall street analyst, criticizing the use of tariffs as a tool to take issue with china, so all of that uncertainty is getting backed into the stock market now with the dell off 530 points.

>> bill: here is the president a moment ago. >> though shooter in el paso posted a manifesto online consumed by racist hate. and one voice, and our nation must condemn racism, bigotry, and white supremacy. these sinister ideologies must be defeated. hate has no place in america. hatred warps the mind, ravages the heart, and devours the soul. >> sandra: that was president trump just a few moments ago, saying that the nation must condemn white nationalism. let's bring in our a-team, mary anne marsh, howard kurtz, and that david avella, chairman of gopac. good morning to all of you. you are on the air over the weekend when all of this was happening. your thoughts now that we have

heard from the president. >> well, i was glad that he called out some of these dark social media sites where these mass murderers hang out. he unambiguously condemned white supremacy. but there was a glaring omission, sandra. the expectation had been raised by the president himself into its this morning, talking about the need for tighter background checks work on purchases. there was nothing about that. just sort of a generalized call for a bipartisan solution. he has the unique opportunity here, you will recall that he brought in members of congress, both parties, even some republicans, he said he would take the heat, but after meeting with the nra, he decided to drop the background checks, the bum stocks prohibition. so the question is -- and congress has been so gridlocked, the nation is shocked and horrified by these twin mass killings, could president trump

actually lead it -- could he lead on modest gun control, or as happened after parkland high school, las vegas, some of these other tragedies, dominating the news media for a couple of days. >> sandra: she said she felt when she spoke to the president that he is open to change, and what he said when he was speaking from the white house, i am open to discussing ideas that work, so why did he not get then more specific? especially when it does come to you background checks, if that is something that he ultimately will propose? >> he was specific. do you think about the tone, it was very much reminiscent of resident george w. bush's tone after the 9/11 attacks. then need that law enforcement all needs to be working together. the silos that keep government agencies from working together need to be taken down, that we need to go after the hatred ideologies. he talked some about mental

illness. it would have been good, had he talked about the need to get more men and women into the health care field. mental illness health care field, to put more money into mental health facilities. he set the right tone because for the present today, he talked about taking on violence. not just gun violence, and these horrific acts this weekend were all done through firearms, but keller's look for any way they can to take people out, and what he talked about was a holistic approach to taking on violence in the u.s. >> bill: a racist hate, at mary anne. >> actions speak louder than words, bill. he has a right to condemn all of those things, but unfortunately everything he condemned in the manifesto, you can hear at a trump railing or read on his twitter feed. he didn't call in mitch mcconnell to bring the

senate back to pass bills with republican votes that would close all of these background checks. he didn't call to end assault weapons, which is what the mayor of dayton asked him to do. when bill clinton banned the sale of assault weapons, mass shootings went down by 43%. when george w. bush and republicans allowed that band to expire, mass shootings went up 230%. the last point here, he points to video games and mental illness. the fact is every country in the world hasn't video games and people with mental illness, yet no country kills its own citizens with guns more than the united states. the fact is more people have been killed in the united states united states by gun since 1968 that every single american that has been lost and/or combined since the revolutionary war to this day in iraq and afghanistan. that is why we have a gun problem, and that is the problem that should be solved. it should not be linked to immigration because it has nothing to do with it.

>> bill>> bill: it continues toa substantial pile on. cory booker, a moment ago. "the president is weak and wro wrong. they are a tool that white supremacists used to fill their hate." what do you think about the finger of blame that we are seeing? >> it is a pattern after every mass shooting. it just tears my heart out because the people who are to blame ultimately are those who are pulling the trigger, the twisted monsters, as the president called on. i want to be really clear on this. the president uses divisive rhetoric, incendiary rhetoric, fox news poll had nearly two-thirds saying that he had crossed the line with his tweets against the freshman congress women of color. that is absolutely fair game for an important debate, but it is very different to slide into guilt by association. as beto o'rourke erected on cnn. saying that the president condones and encourages this --

i saw this when barack obama was president, one police officers were killed. some conservative voices said he had blood on his hands. you can absolutely criticize rhetoric as having the wrong tone and the climate, but it is very difficult to blame politicians for the axis of evil, twisted people. i think we in the media and in politics, even those running for his job need to be careful. >> sandra: leslie, david, you are the present, as he has called for the red flag laws, he said we need to identify early warning signs. what does the president do next? we are just hours out from both of these tragedies this weekend. >> let's keep in mind, talking about gun control, it has had bipartisan opposition. that is why it doesn't get through congress. it is not just republicans. there are democrats, thus when president obama had the house and senate, he couldn't pass gun

control measures. to your question, specifically, the president has to start seeing where the courts are going to allow the use of artificial intelligence and image watching and all of the things that you see big data companies gathering. other courts going to allow that type of information to be used by law enforcement to get out ahead of violence that could occur, based on trends and stats that are coming out, suggesting that violence could be happening? other courts going to allow that type of surveillance of americans to give law enforcement another tool to try to prevent tragedies like this? >> bill: we have to squeeze in a commercial break. to all three of you, thank you for your thoughts. >> sandra: the president declaring hate has no place in our country as democrats demand congress comes back into session. karl rove will join a live from texas next hour. forget things,

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>> sandra: stocks are plummeting this morning. here we are just over an hour into trading. the dow is off 605 points now, sinking to its lows, after beijing ramps up its response now to the president on a new round of tariffs. china's currency falling to its lowest level, i should just say, against the dollar, and more than decade. here now with charles payne, host of "making money," talking about that currency manipulation, as he is calling it. beijing is denying that, but what is happening? why are we seeing the sell-off, charles? >> this takes us to another round of the currency war. the factual parts of it. certainly it hurts american companies selling to china because the dollar so much stronger than the chinese currency. american products are so much more expensive. they are sure to lose market

share. that is why it is interesting. people say don't worry about tariffs. that is not necessarily the case. this read on the screen represents more corporate profits taking a hit. the big multinationals. also the uncertainty factor because now what does president trump do? he makes it a lot harder to come to a resolution. tit-for-tat. >> sandra: the white house pushed back on that over the weekend. peter navarro was talking about chris wallace. he says the consumer is not feeling the pain. >> they are not, and i agree. he was on my show on friday. i agree. i think the irony is that on friday we got a report on manufacturing prices. they are in a deflationary death spiral. the tariffs have been on for a year have hit manufacturing products. remember, we were told that prices were going to go up, so how do you explain manufacturing prices -- i'm talking a deflationary death spiral right now. let me tell you, even before

this currency devaluation, there was only going to be a limited impact for a variety of reasons. but here's the thing. when do we resolve it, and how much further does it go? i think with most of this, it is more anxiety driven then anything else. >> bill: charles handed me a sheet of paper as he walked in the studio. the sell-off in may of this year, where is the market a week later? 2%. it is up half of the point a week later. it was back up 2% of a week later. august 2015? down 5.5%. >> sandra: so what conclusion are you drawing from that data? >> it is saying that this is an emotional sell-off right now. >> sandra: so you are saying buy the sell-off. >> i'm going to be looking for opportunities.

i would suspect that president trump and/or the federal reserve, we will hear from them very soon. >> sandra: because this escalade? morgan stanley is saying plan on a global recession of that were to actually happen over period of time. >> we will see. a lot of people are hoping that maybe the back channels are being used right now. i think jay powell got real political last week, and he made a huge mistake by bringing up the trade war so often and that q q&a session. he give china and opening up. >> sandra: very interesting. we will be watching to see where this market goes. >> bill>> bill: police will hola news conference at the top of the hour. we will bring that to you live. the trouble in class, going back to high school, so we are watching that out of dane. >> sandra: more aggression from us before, after it seizes another oil tanker in the abrsian gulf. we will have more reaction from tehran in the pentagon coming

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>> the third oil tanker seized by iran since july. the same day about the trump administration, sanctioned after declining an invitation to visit the white house. >> the united states is not interested in diplomacy, period. had they been interested, they would not have left the diplomatic table for negotiations, which was at their disposal. >> the iraqi oil tanker was seized near the persian gulf 40e strait of hormuz where iranian forces seized those other two last month. one from great britain, the other from the united arab emirates. detaining the ten u.s. navy sailors in 2016. iran's provocations come more than a year after the trump administration pulled out of the nuclear deal, crippling its oil exports. sunday, they denied any ties to the oil tanker seized by iran.

i iranian state media said "during a meeting with the u.s. senator, they invited him to meet trump." senator rand paul made the offer. >> sandra: lucas tomlinson. >> bill: thank you. dayton, ohio, gunmen killed nine, including his own sister. mass shooting over the weekend. we will take you there live in a moment. that will be up after this break right here.

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>> sandra: fox news alert, awaiting an update as president trump shares on message of unity with fellow americans, calling on congress to act after back-to-back mass shootings in texas and ohio over the weekend, killing 29 people appeared welcome to a brand-new hour of "america's newsroom." >> bill: sandra, good morning to you. the gunmen there saturday night, sunday morning outside of the bar, killed nine people that included his own sister who rode with him to the bar in the same car. at moments earlier. before police responded and less than a minutes time, they shot him dead in the street. no doubt saving countless lives. 13 hours earlier, saturday morning, gunmen attacking shoppers at a walmart in el paso. killing 20 in the aisles of that story.

two senseless tragedies, leaving one troubling question. why? president trump addressed the nation this way one hour ago. >> we must seek real, bipartisan solutions. we must do a better job of identifying and acting on early warning signs. i am directing the department of justice to work in partisan partnership with local, state, and federal agencies as well as social media companies to develop tools that can detect matchers before they strike. >> sandra: mike tobin is standing by with the latest from dayton this morning. we await officials in the news conference. mike, good morning. >> good morning, sandra. you can see that the life is returning to normal here in this hub of restaurants here driving past the row of cameras, and another row of cameras and flowers. all the people can do to memorialize the nine lives that ended so suddenly and senselessly.

police have released a video that shows the panic people running from the gunfire of fifth street here. ultimately, you will see where police officers enter the frame, weapons drawn. they gunned down the gunman, clad in body armor, with a mask and hearing protection as he attempts to enter the crowd at ned peppers bar. they say that it would have been a lot worse if he would have been allowed to enter. despite reports that he had been suspended from high school after compiling a hit list and a list of girls that he wanted to sexually assault, there is nothing that stops them from acquiring the guns in this massacre. this is something that the mayor took up in a phone call with president trump. >> he called to offer his condolences to the people of dayton. i appreciate that. we did have a discussion around why this kind of gun even exists in our community. this person, the shooter, bought

this gun legally and did so much damage in the course of 30 seconds. >> ohio congressman and presidential hopeful tim ryan wants congress to come back from break, pass emergency legislation, background checks and banning assault rifles. >> this is [bleep]. the american people are fed up with what is happening when people get slaughtered on their own streets and absolutely nothing happens. >> he says with the national rifle association and turmoil and public sentiment high, now is the time to act. sandra. >> sandra: the mayor was on with us as we just played a little bit of sound from that interview. she said her community is resilient and gritty. if folks are getting back to work. what are you seeing as far as the sense of community there and a community that will so desperately have to heal and come together in the wake of this horrific event over the

weekend? >> frequently now, you are hearing of the term "day and strong." you see a lot of people hugging. big show of unity. where the blood was shed. right now, frankly, i think people want to come together, they want to have that sense of unity and community, but there is also a sense of helplessness. this has happened to some 250 times, and people are wondering what they can do to make it not happen again, other than come together. sandra. >> sandra: mike tobin on the ground. we will bring that to you live and it begins. president trump offering prayers and condolences to the families of those affected, saying he it has no place in our country. let's bring a karl rove. fox news contributor. carl, good morning to you. first, if you could respond to the words from the president just a few moments ago. >> well, i thought they were good.

this is a moment where the country needs to be brought together and where we need to have a sense of common purpose, common goal. it is tough in these times. everybody in our political system needs to do better. the president needs to do better. his rhetoric at times has been raw and dangerous, i think in terms of being easily misunderstood. the charlottesville statement, for example, but he's not the only one who is not rising up to the level that america needs. i looked at the comments of the democratic candidates for president. i get it. this happens in the middle of the campaign, but their readiness to blame this on the president strikes me is way, way the top. for example, cory booker. there is complicity in the president's hatred that undermines the goodness and decency of americans. mayor pete buttigieg. he is condoning and encouraging white nationalism. harris, "we have a president who

has chosen to use his words summing hate and division among us." bernie sanders. "please stop the racist anti-immigrant rhetoric. creating the kind of violence that we see." imagine for a moment the thought experiment, imagine for a moment after supporter bernie sanders attempted to kill multiple members of the united states congress. republican members of their baseball team who were practicing for a baseball match against the democrats member of the house. what if somebody had amber those words at bernie sanders and held him to blame for the incident? this is not what our country needs at this moment. >> sandra: in addition, any club o -- mental illness and hae pulls triggers, not the gun. she said that it is a dodge by the president, and he is avoiding the truth of the

matter. obviously, they are calling on the president to act here in the form of changing gun laws. he said during that speech, open to discussing all ideas that will work. he has proposed some things on twitter. how far do you think he is willing to go and work with congress to enact a change? >> it sounds like he is, but let's talk about the kind of change that the democrats want. bernie sanders insisted that the senate come back and immediately pass to bills passed by the house that have to do with background checks, but as you heard earlier in their reporting, background checks -- there is nothing in either of these instances that would have stop somebody from buying a gun. we are also talking about an assault weapons ban, but that will still leave numbers of assault rifles, semiautomatic weapons out there. talk about dodging. really at the end of the day, my suspicion is that a lot of the democrats would like to follow the example of australia, which after having a series of mass

murders basically banned all weapons, and maybe that's where they want to go, but they are not willing to say that right now because my feeling is that this is more about politics and this is about -- taking advantage of the moment is more what it is about. let me talk about two other people. both are texans, they have a different approach to this. we have robert francis o'rourke. in this moment, where we needed someone to strike a moment of unity and eloquence, here's what he said. "you know this. you know what he has been saying, he has been calling it mexicans rapists, members of the press. what the blank, connect the dots about what he is doing in this country. he is promoting racism. if we ever needed any indication that this is somebody who was not worthy of the highest office, there it is."

by contrast, i thought julian castro hit it almost right. he said that he did criticize the present, describing, saying that he ought to try to unite americans, instead of these claims. i thought that the first part was good. here is what the president ought to be doing, but he said i'm not going to hold the president responsible for the shooter. the shooter pulled the trigger. i thought that was a better way to approach this in a moment where we don't need more hyperpartisanship. we need unity. >> sandra: the president did tackle a variety of things. he addressed all of that in that speech. 29 people killed. dozens more injured. karl rove, thank you. >> bill: thank you, karl. the mayor of dayton, nan whaley. senators from ohio. during the introductions here,

also congressman michael turner who lives in downtown dayton, ohio. the mayor is with sander about two hours ago. they were precious few details that we have learned based on the interview that we had with her. perhaps they are about to reveal a little bit more. >> folks coming together in the oregon district. the oregon district is open. a lot of you who may not be from here, just a point of reference. it is a locally owned business, so a lot of them close regularly on sunday and monday. that it's very difficult for them, so if you are regularly and dane, you know which restaurants are open on monday and which ones aren't. the majority of them, that is their weekend. so i want you to make sure your coverage -- i have heard about a couple of times. they say it's open, but it seems to be close, it is because it is sunday and monday. i know that some of the places are planning on opening, just because of this on monday, even

though they are normally not open, but we are respecting what they have to do to go through as local businesses. i'm going to turn it over to you the chief to just give an update. not much movement on the investigation is early, but i wanted to see if he had -- give him some time for some comments this morning. thank you. >> well, thank you, mayor. i do have just very brief updates. i will remind you that we are less than 36 hours into this incident and this investigation. we can't confirm that if all of the magazines that we recovered from the suspect were completely full, and we have not had a chance to examine that, we just know that we have magazines with bullets in them, but if all of those were completely at full capacity, including the loose rounds found on the ground near him, as well as in a backpack

that he carried, he would have had a maximum of 250 rounds in his possession at that time. we can confirm that at least 41 spent shell casings from his weapons, based on their location and his path of travel. that is at least 41. as you can well understand in a very dynamic and chaotic scene as this was, with people running through the crime scene, first responders. ems traveling through the crime scene. evidence can be lost. at least 41 spent shell casings. we have recovered 48 .45 caliber shell casings. 16.233 shell casings. and one shotgun shell casing. in terms of the persons injured, we are getting different information from other sources.

persons treated in the hospital. we previously said 27. some information said there was 32. i can confirm to you that there was at least 14 of those injured, whether 27 or 32, andrew through gunshot wounds. many people injured through other means in their flight. there are autopsies currently being completed by the coroner's office, that is process that is still undergoing. it will be sometime before that happens. that is all i really have to share thus far this morning. >> mayor whaley: next, i am going to invite the fire chief to speak about some of the first responders and the fire ems response. >> good morning, everybody.

so, received their first dispatch response to the oregon district. we responded wit with one fire w and one medic, which is dispatch protocol. upon arriving on the scene, we realized that we had multiple people down. we upgraded it to a mass casualty incident, which called for additional response personnel and command units. and then it was expanded once again shortly thereafter. our cruise transported five people to the hospital. one from medic ten, and riverside medic transported to another. many of those people that did make it to the hospital self transported.

and so we initiated our mass casualty protocol. we put command units in play, we did our triage and air treatment, and then we facilitated the transfers to the hospitals. so we didn't overload anyone hospital. there are 37 total patients treated at area hospitals, and they resulted from injuries as a result of gunshot wounds, being trampled. then lacerations from fleeing the scene, broken glass. as you are aware, nine victims, plus the shooter were pronounced at the scene. as of 9:00 this morning, we have bludgeoned victims still hospitalized. that's all i have at this time. >> mayor whaley: thank you, chief.

i would like to invite michelle to come forward to talk about what we are doing with funds for the victims family and those that have been affected by this incident. michelle. >> we have been approached by community members, companies, individuals, tons of people wanting to know how they can help and what they can do. once again, the dane community is such a strong community. unfortunately, after the tornado and now this, the community shows once again that we are dayton strong. we have developed a fund out the dayton foundation. anyone can give to that. the dayton oregon district, it is 8365, so you can get right on our website at atdaytonfoundation.org. that is listed in the memo line. we have had a lot of questions about how we are using the funds, how much we have

collected, we are just as anxious as all of you to get our arms around that. less than 24 hours with the funding open. we are meeting actually today at noon to talk with -- we have been approached by community foundations all across the united states that have unfortunately been through situations like this, so they are providing guidance to us. we are consulting with our foundation to find out how we should appropriately manage these funds and how they are put out into the community and the best way possible. >> mayor whaley: okay. i will now open it for questio questions. >> do you have any greater clarity on the sister and of the mutual friend of the gunmen, and whether you talk to the mutual e situation? >> we have had the opportunity to have some conversation. i will say that there is just

more conversation needed. i will not say at this point that we have clarity of the entirety of that relationship. >> can you talk about how the three of them separated? did the other to know -- did he get the gun out of that car -- >> we have no information at this time to suggest that they were aware of the weapons or when they were introduced into this environment. we have no information at this time. >> where they in the trunk of the vehicle? after they separated -- >> yeah, we don't have that determined with certainty. we do know that the shotgun was recovered in the trunk it, but exactly how they were transported to the scene has not been clarified.

>> what was the condition of the companion? >> he is still being treated? he received a gunshot wound it to torso. >> how close are you to finding motive? >> not close enough. we have a lot of evidence still to go through. just based on where we are at now, we are not seeing any indication of race being a motive, but we are not through all of the evidence. until we are, we cannot rule that out, but i am saying we are not seeing any at this time to suggest race is a motive. >> your community, if you could, going to the vigil last night, seeing all those people, i can't imagine the stress that you are under. can you talk a little bit about what you have seen?

>> i think i have spoken a lot about the grit and determination of this community, and surely at the 8:00 vigil, it was no different. grieving is a process, and as you have said, probably 35 hours into this process. but you know, i have no doubt that this community and its resilience, and its willingness to see through, we have seen through many things in this community, and i know that we are coming together strong again. i'm going to let the commissioners answer this question as well. >> it is very interesting -- thank you all for being here. very interesting to see such a sea of so many people who have their hearts showing on their, those who are concerned about the victims. the uppermost in terms of everyone's mind, thinking about them and their families.

the kinds of things that they said, helping people understand our reason for being here. our goal is to provide as much safety as we can for our city. we escaped it to major tragedies. from a hate group, back a couple of months ago, and we were able to escape even the 14-15 tornadoes without any loss of life as well, and that for this to come and hit us at such a hard time, we are still all emotional about this. in terms of how we address these issues, we start talking about assault weapons. being a vietnam vet, and i understand clearly the damage that those types of weapons can inflict upon individuals, and they have no place in the hands of average everyday citizens, so we do need to have more work done at the federal and state

level to make sure that we minimize these types of situations in the future. thank you. >> i agree with what the mayor and commissioner said, grieving is a process, and we have had great sadness over the last many hours, but now it is really turning to anger. anger about the lack of movement on gun control. we don't -- we are not the first community that has been affected by this gun violence, and we won't be the last, but we have got to do something, and i think we are about the work now. pushing the legislature and the federal government to move on responsible gun control in this community and this country. so that's what i want to leave you with. >> when he turned the corner, his sister and friend, do you think you targeted them, or was it an accident? it firing indiscriminately? >> you know, it's a question i've asked more than once.

and i don't think we can know that for certain. it seems to justify believability, he would shoot his own sister, but it is also hard to believe that he did and recognize that his sister. so we just don't know. >> as far as a companion, do you have any idea what time they got there, and why they were there? >> josh, i don't have that information available. i believe we appeased some of that together with a lot of cellular information that we haven't gone through yet, so we do know that there was some communication once they separated, but i don't think that we have all of those timelines established yet. as best as i know. [indistinct question] >> yeah, yeah. >> do you have information about

earlier in the night, they may have tried to get in earlier? >> yeah, there was some information i mean, early on, but i haven't been able to be a part of any conversations to tease that out and to clarify that, but i do know that there was some information about them being denied entrance, but i can confirm that. >> investigators today -- >> pardon. not that i am aware of. not that i am aware of. again, there is a lot of things that we are working on today as well as our federal partners, which are expediting the transportation and analysis of digital evidence, so there is a lot more going on behind the scenes here then just following up with various individuals that we need interviews with. there are a lot of parts in motion. >> do you know anything about the gunman? anything about that --

>> i know that there is information out in the media that we are clearly exploring every possible piece of information we have. i am a little bit reluctant, even if there is such evidence, to interpret it ten years later as somehow this is indicative of what happened yesterday. so i think -- i will tell you the mistake that is made in understanding your interest you try to get information out, help people understand, but by taking pieces of evidence and coming to conclusions about its significance creates mistakes. large mistakes at times. i have seen it too often in national incidents. piece mailing information does more to you misinformed then inform. so we really don't know until we have all of the information and all of the evidence available. >> mayor whaley: we will take one more question. right here. >> we were wondering how many were hit by bullets and shrapn

shrapnel, and will it be made available? >> the officers are still on administrative leave, so they're not going to be available for interviews -- and i'm sorry, your first question was -- we set 14 that we could confirm pure nonfatal, that have been treated. and i think you had a different number. so, clearly, a couple of dozen people who were treated for nonfatal injuries. 14 of which we think we can confirm war through gunshot wounds. >> mayor whaley: yes, i spoke with the president yesterday evening. he called it -- i think it was around 6:30. okay, we appreciate you all being here. i know you will be out and about through the community. what we are really going to take, yesterday, we did like every three hours. i don't want to keep calling you and when we don't have anything

new, so the investigation will take longer, so you will hear from us the next time that we do have something new to share. [indistinct question] >> mayor whaley: may be. >> if i can answer. >> chief, can you talk more about the firearm? thoughts on citizens owning the arm to magazines? >> it's problematic. it is fundamentally problematic. to have that level of weaponry and a civilian environment unregulated is problematic. >> and the ability to purchase that online, bring it into your community -- >> modify the functions a as a rifle. >> how do you do that? >> i'm not the expert, but i can tell you that it was modified to function like a rifle. not much i can tell you. you can talk to experts out there about how that gets done. how to avoid any legal

prohibitions. >> mayor whaley: thank you. thank you. we are really done. thank you. have a good one. >> bill: 's there was more information that we have been given today in regards to the dead sister and companion who ws in the car. he is being treated in the hospital, shot in the lower torso. more conversation apparently needed with him. no information to think that the sister and the companion were aware that so much an ammunition was loaded into the car. not enough to determine motive. we have 250 rounds in possession, shot at least 41 times before he was brought down within 30 seconds. 45 seconds by police right around the corner. after working his way down the alley. where the sister and companion had just gone. putting the timeline together. that was only 16 miles from the downtown of dayton, ohio.

what is not clear is whether or not they have spoken with more relatives or parents or neighbors to find more as to motive. that is what we have from speech. sandra has more. >> sandra: let's bring in the commander for the boston marathon bombing. thank you for being here. 37 total patients were brought to area hospitals. 11 victims are still hospitalized at this moment. we know 29 are dead. 36 hours into this investigati investigation, there is no clear motive, as you just are described by the chief of police at this time. your thoughts on what you just heard. >> the chief is clearly working through the evidence. he is being cautious to make sure that any statements he is making correspond with the evidence. i think that is wise. he wants to focus probably on the healing of his officers and community first as they build up the information to find out why

this shooter did what he did. >> sandra: going back to what they said it was found around the shooter at the time, including in the vehicle. magazines completely full. there were 230 rounds of capacity there. 41, they said, spent shell casings found including one shotgun shell. there's still a lot to learn about what he had on him. 30 seconds it took for them to come in and stop this shooter, but we now know he has the capacity to act a lot longer than that. >> absolutely. thank god for those officers. they would be dozens dead today if they hadn't responded. they responded with handguns. outgunned, outnumbered. the 30 round magazine. i don't know why anyone would need i 100 round magazine and the civilian population. clearly, they went up against them. as a result, people are alive today. >> sandra: do you care to weigh in on the debate that now

is gun laws in this country? should there be change? >> you know, if we've got people -- if it is true that he is making statements about who he wanted to kill in high school and sexually assault, and my state, if he came across our desks, we could use that to deny a license. he would have to take us to court to appeal it. that is something that should be in consideration. mental health plays out hugely, and we've got to combine mental health with eric on laws. we are seeing the extreme protection laws actually saving some of these events from occurring. they are being denied access to family firearms until they deal with whatever mental crisis they are in. that is just common sense for me. background checks. when we have a terrorist watch list, and we can prevent people on the terrorist watch list from preventing firearms, there is something fundamentally wrong with our system. >> sandra: you just heard the police chief talk about it, and he suggested that they should

not be legally allowed in the hands of civilians. 36 hours from this investigation, the police chief just that it's a long road ahead. what does this look like? how do they proceed now? >> they are going to do exactly what they talked about, reach out to family members, neighbo neighbors, back to his internet search history, browsing histo history, see what kind of cause for concern could have been out there, if he was being treated for mental illness, any medication. that is the other thing that they need to do, heal the community. police officers in el paso, shielding a 2-month-old baby. they will carry that trauma for the rest of their career, and along with healing the community, we need to make sure that we are keeping our officers healthy. >> sandra: the loss of so many innocent lives, just trying to go about their daily lives. we appreciate you this morning.

thank you. >> bill: so you heard from the president about an hour ago, calling for red flag laws. dr. marc siegel is with us here now. fox news sr. judge we go in dift directions. why don't we start in el paso, texas. he is eligible for the death penalty. we will seek the death penalty, says the idea. >> right now, you have a battle between the state and federal government, charging him as a perpetrator of a hate crime, which prescribes the death penalty, if somebody dies as a result of a hate crime. the federal government would also prefer to charge him as a domestic terrorist. the definition of domestic terrorism is two or more acts of violence, so we certainly have that. intended to affect the policy of the government. now we know what he was attempting to do because what he

claimed he was attempting to do is in the manifesto. he said he was attempting to resist the invasion of hispani hispanics. of the federal government will not do anything about it. as horrible as that sounds, that is what he said. the state government has an easier and more effective case. one that is certainly more likely to result in the death penalty. that is old-fashioned mass murder. you carried it out, you killed innocent people. we find you guilty. we are going to execute you. but the feds will get their way. >> bill: in the case of el paso, he wanted to live. >> yes. even though in his manifesto, he says as difficult as this is to live, read, bill, "i will most likely die at the hands of police." he changed his mind, dropped his weapon. >> bill: you can weigh in with your expertise. the president said four things last hour.

"trying to identify killers, working with the social media companies, stops are grisly and gruesome video games, a culture that celebrates violence." he talked about reforming mental health laws to identify those who may be inclined to commit acts of horror and violence. end of the flag laws that would make sure that capital punishment is imposed. you are steeped in knowledge when it comes to mental health issues. where would you as a doctor begin to explain what we witnessed earlier? >> first of all, i agree with all of the statements that the presidents out in the last hour. one of the big problems that we have is that our criminal background check system, bill, lack of information exchange. yes, 47 seats now bring mental health information to that nic has, but it says there appear

millions of file sitting there. laws have to be put into place, which provoke action. the dayton shooter, for sure, he should not have been able to buy a firearm. when he has reportedly hit lists and rape lists, and was suspended from high school, he was not pushed to see a psychiatrist. a lot of these laws say -- >> bill: you heard what the police chief said. it is a mistake when you draw on a moment that has occurred ten years prior. what do you think about that? >> i don't agree with that. i think that that is a warning sign where you have to get mental health involved. ten years prior can predict what happens ten years later. remember what the law say. someone i can do harm to themselves and others. someone who puts up a list, saying i'm going to get you, suspended from high school, someone who might have a

psychotic break ten years later. remember, the key word here is "might." that would be enhanced mental health screenings. down in texas, with patrick, it is a different thing. what the judge was talking about, it only came out -- but there were signs on social med social media, that he had some of this white supremacy thinking that should have been a warning sign. the president is right that social media is stoking the flames of this. the anger and social media, the aggression. the depersonalization. your political enemy is not a person. anything to destroy them. anything that starts the problem, then the reporting of this. not all reporting, but the reporting of this, that it is somehow glorified in a horrible way. >> bill: mentioning the names of those who do the killing.

one of those being treated is now passed away, so the numbers 21 dead in el paso, texas, pay just to go back to the last here, what do you see, from the legal perspective -- >> so the president likes red flag laws. they can do nothing about encouraging the states to do it. >> bill: is not like a background check? >> there are to go. is constitutional, one is unconstitutional. there is a guy around the corner who is shooting tin cans in his backyard and has pictures of them. you better go see his leg on, and then he will have to prove his worthiness to on the gun. the other is my cousin has got a very violent temper, i think you guys better look at him, we will see whether or not we should sue him to take the gun from him. the gun is taken before due process, and in the second, there is due process, and a trial decides whether or not the

person is inherently dangerous. second red flag law is probably constitutional, the first is clearly unconstitutional. the president didn't distinguish amongst the two. >> bill: gentlemen, thank you. this conversation will go on for a long time. thank you, judge. >> sandra: fox news alert. the florida men convicted of sending pipe bombs to prominent democrats will be sentenced today in new york city. calling for him to serve life in prison for spreading terror last year. bryan llenas is joining us now live in manhattan. brian. >> sandra, good morning. prosecutors are treating this as a domestic terrorism case. he is expected to go in there and be sentenced by federal judge behind me. weeping and tearful, pleaded guilty to 65 felony counts.

weapons of mass destruction. a mailing 15 pipe bombs to democrats and political foes of president donald trump. last october, they were milled around the country from california to new york. the people included former president barack obama, hillary clinton, current presidential candidates, joe biden and senators cory booker and kamala harris. his lawyers argue that the pipe bombs were nothing but a hoax, that the bombs were not functional. they were unlikely to explode. his lawyers insist no one was injured from these devices. the bombs made of shrapnel explosives and chemicals could have exploded. the 57-year-old is a victim of a series of traumatic life. dominic circumstances. he is a strange from his family and obsessed with president donald trump as he lives out of his van.

they also say that he has untreated mental illness, and they note his addiction to spirits. because of his cognitive limitations, he believes outlandish reports in the news and on social media, which increasingly made him unhinged. he became obsessed with the tax those that he saw as president trump's enemies. they blame in part his religious feeling of the fox news channel, an argument that prosecutors shutdown. "millions of people watch the news, experience personal challenges. only the defendant constructed 16 pipe bombs packed with glass shrapnel and mailed them across the country." i one point, sayoc said he wanted to pull back on his guilty plea but he chose not to. asking that he be in prison for ten years. prosecution says he is a danger in the community and should spend the rest of his life behind bars.

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this mass shooting. in texas, nine more in ohio. the president just said we are overcome with shock and horror, outraged and second. how do the president's words just not from the white house, how has his message, how was it received? >> well, it was appropriate. it was appropriate to denounce the killings and do so from an emotional heartfelt point of view. his denunciation of white supremacy that some people were looking for. i'm glad he set it to simply say it. giving it condolences to the people of mexico as well. good to hear. so i think he is responding well, and what are the solutions? how many of these have we been there before? we wrestle with what the right solutions are. i just want to get rid of the politics from all of this. what bothers me so much is that people say that president trump's rhetoric is to

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they should be seen for that, as mistakes. i don't think you use this to go after somebody. >> sandra: our hearts are shattered. we lock arms. and we should pray together. thank you for coming on this morning. good to get your reaction. thank you. >> bill: in about 10 minutes, "outnumbered" is going to roll your way. melissa and kennedy have a preview. >> hey, ladies. good morning, bill. condemning the two mass shootings over the weekend, saying hate and bigotry have no place in our country. democrats are pointing the finger at him, saying he is not doing enough when it comes to you gun control. >> sandra: ramping up the trade war and response to the latest terror threat. pushing back on claims that this is hurting consumers. are they read? all of that, plus our hashtag, #oneluckyguy. >> bill: moving forward with

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>> sandra: gun violence stretching beyond el paso and dayton this weekend. the city of chicago and during its most violent weekend of the year. seven people shot dead and another 48 wounded in shootings across the city. one shooting injuring seven people at a playground, another injuring eight, only blocks away a few hours later. the situation getting so bad, chicago's mount sinai hospital had to stop taking new patients for several hours. >> bill: another alert from overseas. the u.s. and south korea starting joint military exercise pure north korea has been

warning that they put diplomacy in jeopardy. running that down for us today in. greg. >> a, bill. going forward and south korea. action again now from north korea. the defense ministry confirming that the military drills have begun. in about two weeks, they are scaled-down from what we have seen in the past. strictly limited to operation centers. may or may not be field drills, but nevertheless, all of this was canceled last summer, and that has gotten bein -- they hao that they will wait until the end to see what kind of impact it may have on diplomacy. they have already made a statement, though, remember that there were two different mantras by north korea.

they are limited in scope, but still pretty dangerous for the folks in south korea and including military bases in south korea. all of this is no real sign of any restart of talks between u.s. military regarding the nuclear arsenal. remember, we have a meeting in late june involving president trump, chairman kim. so jump-start, perhaps negotiations. it was supposed to be a mid-july meeting, but that never materialized. security officials watching once again very closely of that. >> bill: greg palkot reporting in london on that. >> sandra: back to the deadly shootings over the weekend. president trump speaking out, following 30 people killed into separate mass shootings. one in texas, the other in ohio. condemning white supremacy and racist remarks. at the latest from both,

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>> bill: a few more details we learned in the past 30 minutes, unfortunately in el paso the news has gotten worse. more grim by the hour. one of those being treated at the hospital has passed away. now it's 21 dead in el paso at the moment. >> sandra: speaking to the mayor indeed in the short time ago on this program, she believes in the resilience in the determination of the people there. it's going to be a long road to recovery and healing and a community certainly trying to come together this morning. >> bill: the president made a statement calling out racist hate and bigotry and also calling it white supremacy. "cultural change is hard," had four specific proposals that will be debated likely not just today but in congress when lawmakers come back to work. >> sandra: a rough week and for everyone in this country, to make up and see that news and hear the news and have it happen again a few hours later. certainly a country coming together to support both of

those. >> bill: in ohio, it's a real riddle. there's very little information given estimate of. perhaps we learn more throughout the day today. when it happens we will pass it to you. grab each other a little tighter today. as a tough road. >> sandra: continuing coverage on fox news channel. "outnumbered" starts now. >> melissa: fox news alert, new reaction to president trump addressing the nation from the white house after the country is rocked by two deadly mass shootings in less than 24 hours. in el paso, texas, and dayton, ohio, as officials at the justice department are now considering bringing federal hate crimes in connection with the el paso massacre. we are awaiting a news conference from the hospital there. this is to is "outnumbered," i'm melissa francis. here today is the host of "kennedy" on the fox business network, kennedy. fox news headlines 20 for seven reporter, carley shimkus. fox news contributor