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of both.: but thank you for joining us. that's it for tonight inside the issues special. tune in each night to 8:00 at the show, the sworn enemyrn of lying, pomposity, smugness, and groupthink. tucker will be back on monday. ♪ >> gregg: welcome to this special edition of "hannity," issues facing america. i'm gregg jarrett in tonight for sean. jeffrey epstein's autopsy has been released to some extent. it's been officially ruled a suicide. but according to reports epstein was in great spirits. just hours before the suicide. and was confident aboutd his ongoing criminal case. coming up, forensic pathologist dr. cyril wech will be here for a full analysis. but first, joining us with
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more is trace gallagher. >> three of epstein's lawyers are challenging the autopsy report, planning their own investigation in the cause of death. the lawyers also blame the metropolitan correctional center for the medieval conditions and for not protecting epstein violating numerous protocols. meantime, the autopsy results themselves are vague. normally, we get diagrams, descriptions, and definitions to help decipher the findings. but so far, all the medical examiner is saying is that jeffrey epstein died by suicide and the cause was hanging. "the daily beast" is reporting that the marks on epstein's neck looks like those from fabric, which squares with the information that epstein tied a bed sheet around his neck and secured it to the top bunk. there are reports that epsteinin was found kneeling forward as if lungeing forward. but several medical examiners say lunging, as a rule, is not enough force to break the hyoid bone. and they add that just because he was found on his knees dndoesn't necessarily mean he didn't throw himself off the top
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bunk. and adding one more twist to an already dizzying canvas, fox news can now confirm that some mccri personnel, including prison staff, are not cooperating with the investigations into epstein's death. but with congress and the doj both conducting separate inquiries, the belief is that many will be compelled to cooperate. >> gregg: i would imagine. a trace, thanks very much. tonight, we know that epstein's autopsy concluded he hung himself, reportedly with a bed sheet. but, according to my next guest, there could be more to the story. joining us is pathologist dr. cyril wecht. great to see you. >> good evening. w >> gregg: o there is a great del of talk that epstein suffered hyoid fracture, right around the adam's apple area. but i want to caution our viewers, that is only from sources to "the washington post," which broke that story. we haven't heard that from the medical examiner herself.
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so that, i mean, it would be important to know a, that is confirmed. b, what i imagine the nature of that fracture. >> yes. it's my understanding that no details have been released. we are just simply told what the medical examiner's conclusions were. vis-a-vis, cause of death, hanging, manner of death suicide. i'd need to see all the details. let me say this. if this is a leaning into kind of a hanging, notng someone hurling himself from the top bunk, but if he were for example, maybe sitting on thee lower bunk, or kneeling by there, and no evidence of his having been on the top bunk and hurling himself off, then there is no velocity, there iso no force imparted to that scenario. leaning forward, in my
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opinion, would not lead to what we have been told are "multiple fractures." we don't know what was broken exactly. no details have come from the medical examiner's office.e. we are told by "thehe washington post," "the new york post" the hyoid bone was broken. that is above the adam's apple by a couple of inches in a good size man. anand then, the other fractures, if they are fractures of the thyroid cartilage, cartilage, adam's apple, in association with the fracture of the hyoid bone, that is highly suspicious. in my opinion, unlikely to be caused by leaning into suicidal hanging. >> gregg: but to be clear, if he is on the top bunk with bed sheet around his neck and propels himself off the top bunk, then the hyoid fracture
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and maybe another fracture or two, that would be consistent with that behavior? >> yes. if he were on the top bunk and he hurled himself, he jumped off, that is, i understand, five and a half feet high. you have his increased height from the waist to head. so you got seven feet or so, roughly. that drop could lead to those kind of fractures. so, ii agree. and i want to make that clear, that i cannot express an opinion with reasonable medical certainty.ni i can only repeat what i have said, based upon the cases i have myself examined. hundreds of cases over the years, in my 20,000-plus autopsies. 40,000 other cases that i have reviewed, supervised, or signed off on, that i have not seen multiple fractures on single simple, leaning-into suicidal
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hanging, where there is no velocity. velocity is what gives you force. >> gregg: right. >> if you don't have velocity, you don't have force. that is what this case is all about. they should have done, maybe they have, an investigation of the cell. first of all, why was there a double bunk cell. then, taking out the cell mate the dayta before. if you've got someone on suicide watch and he still should have been on suicide watch, don't you think, gee, maybe he might jump from the higher balcony? why are there two bunks like that? there are a lot of things have to be correlated with the anatomic findings. what was the position of the body? a was he kneeling, as if he had leaned forward? if you hurl yourself off, i heard you say, quoting somebody else, well, me might land like that on your knees. yeah, you can do that. you can even do itu with people, you don't have to tie their necks or so on. but guys that do stunts anddi so on, give them knee padding and
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let them jump off and see how they land. it's highly doubtful they will land in kind of a bent over, kneeling position from the waist. it's highly unlikely. >> gregg: sure, and you'd want to -- >> from five and a half feet high. >> gregg: you want to look for abrasions on the knee and the other evidence of trauma to the body. dr. wecht, many thanks for being with us. >> thank you.y. >> gregg: without a doubt, the irregularities surrounding jeffrey epstein's death are shocking. fox news learned today attorney general william barr dispatched two a senior department of justice officials to the metropolitan corrections center to gather additional information. those officials have been there, actually, since thursday. joining us nowjo with a full report is catherine herridge. catherine. >> thank you. we could get a reading next week of the justice department preliminary findings in the epstein case. they are investigating how the bureau prison staffing and overtime may have contributed to events surrounding his death.
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the attorney general william barr, as you mentioned, dispatching two of his top aides to independently gather information and speak directly with the bureau prison staff at the mcc where epstein was being held. that b team has been on-site sie thursday. separately, the department of justice has an after action review team working through the bureau prison, which falls under justice department authority. that team is still on scene at mcc preparing a high level debrief, analyzing what went wrong. f we are nearly a week out from epstein's death, and the key issues remain: staffing, who was working overtime shifts, and whether protocols on monitoring epstein were followed after he came off suicide watch, as well as the removal of his cellmate. fox news can report tonight that officials i found that 94% of the overtime hours during that critical period were done voluntarily, and also this evening, new information from our producer that there are indications that there was a lack of cooperation among some of the mcc staffers, gregg.
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>> gregg: catherine herridge in washington. thanks very much. >> you're welcome. >> gregg: joining us now is fox news contributor and retired lapd detective mark fuhrman, former special agent manny gomez and emily campagno, a fox news contributor. good to have you all. mark, let merk begin with you. it strikes me that a critical component of this are the videotape of the cameras that would have been in the hallway and general area. and you would want to examine the three-hour period of time in which he allegedly killed himself to determine if anyone had access or egress to his jail cell, right? >> absolutely. and the interesting part of the pathology report is that we don't have the summary or the protocols. but we have the cause and the manner of death, as dr. wecht stated. this gives you a finding combined with the detectives' view of the crime scene. and one of those is the
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surveillance video, that, during the estimated time of death, before and after, nobody entered the cell. nobody approached the door. nobody exited. so that eliminates the death at the hands of another. and thousand we have to conclude with the evidence that it is suicide. >> gregg: emily, the defense lawyers for jeffrey epstein are hinting that they don't buyon i. they want to conduct their own investigation. maybe another autopsy. it's a little bit unclear. i suspect they are driven by guilt, more than anything else. it was the defense attorney who was urging the metropolitan corrections center to take him off suicide watch. but for that request, epstein might still be alive today. >> there is certainly a level of responsibility at minimum, and culpability at maximum, that they hold. yes.he
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i want to point out that the fact that the autopsy ruled this a suicide means that epstein's estate can sue for what is essentially wrongful death at the hands of the state. what is interesting to note is that the standard of review for those kind of the cases, when inmates commit suicide and the family or the loved ones saying it was your fault, state. you broke the protocol or there was negligence that led to the suicide that you knew could have happened, the standard is deliberate indifference. sap it is a very tough bar toy cross. of all the cases i reviewed, the vast majority were moved out of court at the summary judgment stage, which meant that the defendant simply even falling asleep, it still didn't qualify. >> gregg: you know, manny, there is a report, and this may also be fed by defense attorneys who harbor guilt of their own by virtue of their actions, that well, he was upbeat. he was optimistic about his chances on a double jeopardy motion that had been filed.
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frankly, i always, as a defense attorney, discount the mindset client. >> absolutely. the mindset of this individualal before he, perhaps, committed suicide, apparently committed suicide, has absolutely nothing to do with the negligence, the recklessness of how m.c.c. behaved in this matter. in fact, they are acting as psychologist which has nothing to do with the case at hand, which is how is the most h highly visible inmate in thegh united states capable of committing suicide when they went against every protocol that they, themselves, have in place to prevent that? >> gregg: mark, if it's not suicide, but rather a homicide, that would require some fairly insurmountable s challenges to carry out, wouldn't it? >> well, it would. dr. wecht pointed out both sides of the coin in the medical evidence.
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but there was nothing filmed or witnessed inside the cell, so we don't know if he jumped from the top of the bunk, or he merely leaned over in a forceful way. we don't know that. so to change a suicide to a s homicide, in this respect, you are going to have to have a witness, or you'll have to have a film of the act or a participant in the act to come forward. so, we know nobody entered the cell. so, he did not die at the hands of another. we certainly don't know the toxicologyth yet. but if they are going to rule it a suicide, i would say that there was no drugs in his suicide that would make him compliant or unconscious so somebody could stage the scene. so that is a huge bar to change this from a suicide, or even implicate it was a homicide. >> gregg: all right. so where does the case go now? it's possible coconspirators could be charged. in particular, ghislaine maxwell has been identified a the madame
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who arranged the sex trafficking, allegedly. she was m.i.a. until somebody spotted her at an in-n-out burger in southern california, there is the cover "the new york post" ." she certainly knows where to find a good burger. the question is does she know where to find a good criminal defense lawyer? because i suspect she is going to need one. >> so, as of yet, she has been unindicted, unnamed. but, that said, there are unnamed co-conspirators in the charging documents.to she has a lot to answer for. accused in the organization of this vast network, but also an abuser, herself. she is right now the confident of civil lawsuits in state of new york in terms of -- as well as the defendant estate of epstein. note for the viewers to keep track of, this all, there is also an f.b.i. and a d.o.j. investigation in toin this correctional institution.
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there are many threads. bottom line as well with maxwell, with ghislaine maxwell, if she proves a useful source of information, then it would behoove her to -- >> gregg: flip. >> to be as transparent as possible to the government. yes. she would have to be charged first with something because as of now, we don't know. >> gregg: we need leverage. manny, there was back in the original case in 2007, in which there was a plea deal to two charges, a non-prosecution immunity agreement that apparently affects others. i suspect that is not worth the paper it's written on. for a couple of a reasons. first of all, it doesn't immunize you from future acts, so acts after 2007 are not covered. second, it appears that it victims the crime rights act, in which the victims were never notified. >> you are absolutely right. he had a hubris that he was falling under double jeopardy and he would not be prosecuted --nd not found guilty for this, and it would be thrown
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out of court. w clearly, that was not the case. he obviously was desperate, and apparently committed suicide. that being said, it still does not excuse the actions of mcc bureau of prisons, et cetera, and it certainly doesn't excuse the actions of coconspirators, as william barr said. they will still continued to be investigators andndon prosecuted, if needed. >> gregg: you can tell that barr is angry. he will get to the bottom of what happened here. >> absolutely. >> gregg: mark, i want you c to have the final word here. as the case moves forward, there have been identified at least a half a dozen women who were allegedly aiding and abetting, according to some of the victims. is that where the case goes now? >> i think it is where it has to go. they don't have epstein now so they will go with all the people they might have been able to flip. have them testify against
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epstein. now they will have to pursue some of the most important ones and have the minor ones testify against him to prove the case. but most of the crimes, if it wasn't filmed or witnessed and you don't have a victim, then you've got sex trafficking, but you really don't have a strong case. so they need someone on the inside. >> gregg: yeah, they need someone on the inside. of course, they need the alleged accusers to come forward and say this happened to me, it was sexual assault. which is a horrendous, violent crime.ou mark, manny, emily, thank you for being with us.ha coming up next, big breaking news in our investigation into the investigators.s. plus, we will recap joe biden's bad week. stay with us as this special edition of "hannity" continues. ♪ ♪ relaxing guitar
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♪ >> gregg: welcome back to this "hannity" special, issues facing america. big developments tonight in our quest to hold those who abuse power accountable. and to expose the deep state's effort to undermine a duly elected president.ta and it all starts with the rigged investigation in to hillary clinton, where we learned this week that f.b.i. officials "seemed indifferent" to a possible hack by china of hillary clinton's server, exposing the deep double standards inside the highest level of our government. and get this. according to a new senate report, the same clinton i.t. aide who defied a subpoena admitted to the f.b.i. he created an encrypted gmail account as a way to copy all of hillary clinton's e-mails for including classified documents.
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that's right, on a google server for everyone to hack. we have some of the most convincing evidence yet involving bruce and nellie ohr because new documents obtained by judicial watch show that nellie ohr, a former contractor free fusion gps -- remember, being commissioned by the hillary clinton campaign -- was funneling anti-trump materials through her husband, a top official at the department of justice, who had several secret meetings with dossier author christopher steele. and in some cases, nellie ohr didn't even need her husband to disseminate her seedy op research because other documents showed nellie ohr wasg communicating with other top doj officials while she was working with effusion gps. it's really unbelievable. now, of course, this is all just one way that intelligence was weaponized against team
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trump. don't forget about the use of spies. like this guy. alleged f.b.i. informant stefan halper. i'm going to erase the term "alleged," because it is pretty clear. who is now claiming that immunity affords him coverage in a defamation lawsuit against him, raising even more questions about the mysterious former cambridge professor. joining me for reaction to this is the former acting attorney general matt whitaker. matt, thank you for being with us. let's start with bruce and nellie ohr. nellie ohr told congress the only person she gave the anti-trump information to was her husband. now, it turns out, at least three prosecutors were given this information by nellie ohr. there are 339 pages of e-mails showing it. that looks like lying to congress, which, the last
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time i checked, and we can all check with michael cohen, that is a crime, isn't it? >> it is a crime. the entire situation surrounding bruce ohr and nellie ohr was very concerning for me when i was at the department of justice. this is a key thing that mr. durham is looking at, how did this whole investigation start? i know mr. huber, u.s. attorney from utah, is also looking at the fisa abuse. i know the inspector general is looking at it. i hope we can get full transparency and all the answers to the questions, gregg, because i know that you and others have been asking these questions, and really receiving unsatisfactory answers. but there was no doubt that fusion g.p.s. was trying to get the false dossier and the information it contained to anyone who could launch an investigation, or otherwisein throw a wrench in the campaign in 2016. and we have to make sure it never happens again. >> gregg: how is it possible bruce ohr is still employed at the department of justice?
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i mean, this guy is required under federal regulation to disclose financial benefits he was receiving. his wife is paid by fusion through hillary clinton's campaign. it's going to the bruce and nellie ohr joint bank account.t. he didn't disclose it. nor did he seek recusal in the case. isn't that a firing offense? >> financial disclosure is something that is important, and each federal employee fills outi every year to look for conflicts of interest. i think the process for employment for career officials, there is a -- it's a long process in order to terminate someone, and that has to be enough evidence, and a record, and so these investigations by both the inspector general and those two attorneys i mentioned, could be the basis for that. that is obviously what happened in andy mccabe's situation,
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where the inspector general decision drove the decision to terminate him. once the reports come out, it could be basis for employment investigation. >> gregg: all right. matt whitaker, thank you very much for being with us. >> thank you, gregg. >> gregg: joining me now is the former attorney brett tohlman and florida congressman matt gaetz. there is already a criminal referral against nellie ohr and probably should be one against bruce ohr in my judgment. we'll wait to see. i want to tackle another suggest with you. congressman gaetz, we now learned, you can read about inil "the daily caller," that according to a senate report, every single hillary clinton e-mail was sent secretly to a cryptic gmail address, including classified documents. so, you've got potentially hundreds if not thousands of documents that are sensitive, if not classified, that can be hacked on a google server. and an intelligent agent
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discovered it. notified peter strozk, who was "disinterested and dismissive." congressman, how can that be? >> the reason this is the case is because they all thought hillary clinton was going to win.asas remember, gregg, the trump russia allegations weren't the crime. they were the cover-up. because a lot of the folks at the f.b.i. and the department of justice thought they would be retaliated against by a future president hillary clinton if they aggressively pursued the facts and applied the law when it related to her unlawful conduct with her e-mails. and sensitive unclassified information. so the reason we get this drip by drip is you have people who were paving a yellow brick road to exoneration for hillary clinton, when they should have been doing their job. that is because james comey curated an environment where they were not doing investigations at the f.b.i. they were trying to shape publicicre opinion. and when you see the bias that was so evident of those investigating hillary clinton
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there is no excuse for the outcome, that she wasn't forced to account for the bad conduct. >> gregg: if you have classified documents on a google server, i mean everybody has got it. including the russians. and we now also know that the chinese apparently hacked hillary clinton's classified documents. and, once again, the f.b.i. is notified of this. a they didn't care. isn't that just the quintessential malfeasance of the f.b.i.? >> i know a hundred agents and executives of the f.b.i. that would have reacted differently than peter strozk did. and would have placed this at s the top of their priority list. the bottom line on classified information, think about this, gregg. taking any classified information and mishandling it to summarize what the laws
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state, mishandling of classified information is a crime in this country. perhaps the only one that is a bit relieved tonight isap hillary clinton because the story doesn't seem to come back to focus on the fact thatom she has a private server. and these e-mails are on a private server. and those e-mails end up going to a more public place. by her instruction, you have to believe it's by her instruction. she hired the company. and they put it on the public place for anyone to potentially see it. and let's face it, right now, and back then, china is absolutely one of our topck threats to this country's national security. >> gregg: paul kombata, the i.t. guy that worked for hillary clinton. unbelievably, congressman, he got immunity from the f.b.i. in exchange for nothing, which
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in my almost 40 years of a lawyer, i have never heard of that, never seen that before. he gets immunity from prosecution. and now he is refusing to even cooperate or talk to the d.o.j. inspector general. >> well, when we in the congress saw the immunity only that were given not in this instance but to a variety of other hillaryiv clinton associates, you wonder what was bargained for. an immunity deal isar exchange r evidence that leads to a high profile or a high priority target that the government has any particular case. but you saw the blanket immunity deals given to people. it didn't give them more of an incentive. it created less of an incentive.eaid it was really drawn into critique by the inspector general when he analyzed the bias that existed here, and the extent to which the bias could have impacted the outcome of the case. >> gregg: you can have the last word because i have 30 seconds left.av this is as crooked as the day is long, isn't it?
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>> well, it is. in 20 years of practicing federal criminal law, i was never able to get blanket immunity. not for a cooperator that i wanted d.o.j. to give immunity.ra not when i became a defense attorney. not for any of my clients. they got limited immunity, and they always had to m give something up that was substantial. what we have here is failure that is starting to percolate up at multiple levels. and it's just the beginning. >> gregg: yeah.'s well, this was james comey's f.b.i. listening to sanctimonious, vainglorious former fbi director. gentlemen, thank you for being with us. congressman gaetz, bret tohlman, thank you so much. coming up next, you can run but you can't hide. the biden campaign is allegedly considering scaling back his campaign to avoid putting his foot in his mouth. stay with us. as this special edition of "hannity" continues.
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♪ >> gregg: welcome back to the "hannity" special. president trump, at his rally in new hampshire last night, calling out joe biden's campaign over talks that they might dial back his appearances because of the former v.p.'s incessant gaffes. watch this. >> but i don't know, i think sleepy joe may be able to limp across the finish line. but today, they announced that they are going to cut way back on his appearances because he is such a disaster they are going to have fewer appearances. you have heard that, right? this is true. they are cutting way back on his appearances. can you believeac it? if i ever did that, it would be over.
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>> gregg: that is not all. "the new york times" is reporting today in a private i conversation, earlier this year, obama even discouraged biden from running. the report says obama told biden, "you don't have to do this, joe. you really don't." but that is not all. the report goes on to say that obama told biden's adviser in march that they can't let biden, "embarrass himself" or "damage his legacy." joining us now for reaction, ceo of the new voice, herman cain. always good to talk to you. is hiding from voters a sound campaign strategy? >> no. as you said earlier, you can run, but you can't hide. you are not going to win an election by the people not being able to hear and see you. so, it might be a good strategy to avoid some future gaffes by joe biden. but it's not a good strategy in order to endear voters to
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vote for you. so, no, that is not a good strategy.oo >> gregg: no getting around g the fact that joe biden has a reputation of being a gaffe machine. >> right. >> gregg: you know, which may account for why he was a plagiarist until he got caught. it's tempting to say he is not up for the intellectual challenge of either a campaign or the presidency. what do you think? >> i happen to agree with you. and if he makes it to the nomination, he will embarrass himself, and he will embarrass the democrat party. let's face it. he is not sharp enough to be in this race. the only reason joe biden is leading in the polls amongstea the democratic presidential wannabes is because he is the lesser of all the socialist evils. that is why.
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most normal democrats, if there are such a thing as normal democrats, they would rather go with someone like joe, more normal, to lead us back where we were, than the socialists out there. every one of the other candidates, every one of them, have proposed socialists ideas. that is why he is leading in the polls. so they think if they keep him out of sight, he's gonna continue to lead in the polls. >> gregg: i have news for them. he is not doing well these days in iowa. that is the first contest. if elizabeth warren wins there as one poll indicates that is finito for joe biden. herman cain, thank you so much for being with us. good to see you. >> thank you. >> gregg: joining us with more reaction author of "still winning," fox news contributor charlie hurt.
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also with us is fox news contributor doug schoen. when the former president ofou the united states says you don't need to do this, joe, is that a polite way of saying don't do this, joe? >> yeah. i think so. to herman cain's point, i think of myself as a normal democrat. and ideologically, i'm aligned with joe biden, but seeing gaffe after gaffe after gaffe, it's becoming clear to me, as youaf mention the polls in iowa and new hampshire and the national numbers, that joe biden is on a skid that i'm not sure he can recover from. >> gregg: but it's not something new, is it, charlie? joe biden has been putting both feet in his mouth for decades. >> this has been his shtick for years. it's why he has never managed to get the nomination for president, and it's why the closest he has ever come to the white house was being handpicked by barack obama to be his
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vice president. i think about this for a minute, though. think about how embarrassed barack obama must be to have the sky trying to go out there and uphold obama's legacy. it's got to be hugely embarrassing. but think about the other thing, leaked all of this stuff? who leaked these conversations to "the new york times"? it wasn't biden's campaign. this is hugely embarrassing to biden's campaign. the only people that could have leaked all this stuff to "the new york times" is barack obama's people. and, i mean, what a shiv in the back. >> gregg: it is a shiv in the back. it had to have come from obama's people. because they are watching, for example, doug, the debates. and fellow democrats are attacking biden over obama legacy programs, like theeg deportation of illegal immigrants. and obamacare. >> right. and biden has had trouble defending those policies,
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articulating his own policies. but what has been really a problem is he has been saddled with support for the '94 crime bill. he hasn't been able94 to defend himself, which also included an assault weapon ban. and the fact that he has been linked to segregationists in the first debate, and still hasn't really credibly answered that, this is a campaign in crisis, and indeed, i'd say some degree of disarray. >> gregg: yeah, i mentioned a moment ago, charlie. you look at one of the most recent iola polls, and it may be an outlier, but it does show a trend with the other polls, which is that biden is going down in iola, war and going up. if biden can't win iowa it's finito, isn't it? >> yeah, no, it's a real problem for him. of course, i think the rest of the field of the democrats t running, as doug pointed out,
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all of these democrats that are running, they have gone plum crazy. plum full socialism. i don't think that is where the regular, mainstream democratic voters are. my question then is, okay, where is barack obama? he's the most popular democrat in the land. if he is the leader of the party, why doesn't he step out and step into this, mediate some of this? because his legacy is going down the toilet with any of the socialists that get picked. and barack obama is just standing on the sideline. it's pathetic leadership. >> gregg: why doesn't obama jump in?el >> because the strongest candidate that barack obama knows well is named michelle obama, and she has made it clear she not going to run. this is an insoluble problem because the democrats moved so far left people like me could not vote for socialists for president. i'm a capitalist. >> gregg: yeah. all right. doug schoen and charlie hurt, good to see you both. have a great weekend. >> thank you. >> good to be with you.
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>> gregg: coming up, dems, radical dems, are ratcheting up their rhetoric. elizabeth warren and kamala harris spreading dangerous falsehoods -- i call them "lies." and the media is afraid to call them out on it. we'll explain. stay with us. ♪ ♪ (music plays throughout) ♪ ♪ ♪
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♪ >> gregg: welcome back to this "hannity" special. issues facing america. as the more than 20 democratic presidential contenders fight for the nomination, many are competing to see how far left they can go or how crazy they can be. yesterday, during a campaign event, beto o'rourke made this ominous prediction about president trump. take a look. >> when we allow this country to be defined along lines of race, and ethnicity, and
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religion, we allow a commander-in-chief to not only welcome that, but the violence that follows, to defy our laws, our institutions, and any ethical or moral boundaries. that if, at this moment, we do not wake up to this threat, then we, as a country, will die in our sleep. >> gregg: "we will die in our sleep." [laughs] also this week, senator elizabeth warren defended her claim that michael brown was "murdered" by a white police officer in ferguson. the liberal fact checking website politifact failed to call out warren and fellow candidate kamala harris for calling the shooting "murder" even though the officer was never indicted. and, in fact, obama's d.o.j. declared that the officer, "did not act with a requisite criminal intent to be charged with a federal offense." joining us with reaction. siriusxm radio host and fox
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news contributor david webb. and "the hill" media reporter joe concha. good to see you guys. david, "we're going to die in our sleep." when a candidate says something really profoundly stupid, one can reasonably conclude that the speaker is stupid. has he forfeited his right to be taken seriously as a candidate? >> he forfeited that a long time ago. when you look at what he has said on the campaign trail this is the fourth, maybe fifth restart of the campaign. it's failing.her it has fall on the the bottom tier.am and he needs the outrage, just like castro needs outrage to get any attention. >> gregg: yeah, you know, initially, joe, his campaign, beto's campaign took off like a rocket. since then, it has gone down like the hindenburg. fast and burning. is that the risk you run as
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you suddenly become a media darling of "vanity fair"? >> yes. he was the it guy, and then he didn't live up to those expectations. people thought because he ran in a couple of points of cruz in texas he must be viable candidate. but if you look at the polling, beto o'rourke doesn't have gravitas, he doesn't fillll the screen. he is running o for vice president, at this point. if elizabeth warren gets the nomination, he is positioning himself as a vice presidential candidate. or possibility. instead of actually winning the presidency, because he has no shot of doing that. he pulled out everything after el paso, in terms of calling the president a white supremacist and racist. it didn't get him anywhere in terms of the jump of the polls and now he is playing for second place, not first, gregg. >> if i could just interject, joe. i agree he is playing for secondnd place.
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the second part of the ticket is usually a complement. he is a not a complement to elizabeth warren or to any of them. he advocates for open borders with socialist policies so i don't think he is evenat qualified for that. >> david, not even open borders. he actually told chris hayesay of msnbc in an interview a couple of months ago that he would tear down the borders around el paso. not even open. he wants to take down walls altogether. that is even beyond open borders. but, again, that seems to be the way the democratic party is going on the issue in terms of not just allowing people to come in illegally. but also knocking down walls that are keeping them from coming in legally. >> gregg: we have run out of time for me to trash elizabeth warren and kamala harris for accusing the police officer in the shooting death of michael brown of murder. when, in fact, they are both lawyers. i mean, c'mon, they know the definition of "murder." >> gregg, one point. >> gregg: go ahead.
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>> politifact never fact checked elizabeth warren's claim that she is part cherokee indian. now, if you are a fact checking agency, i would think it would be at the top of the list in terms of things you fact check and don't fact check. that is all you need to know about politifact and elizabeth warren. in terms of their decision here, and their treatment of her in general. >> gregg: i have my own beef with politifact. they criticized my book and only read the preface. and not the book. way to go, guys. we'll be right back. don't go away.y. ♪ now's your chance to save big on america's favorite boats during the model year clearance sale. save up to $2500 on remaining 2019 tracker and sun tracker boats. save up to $3500 on tahoe;
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>> welcome to the special edition of hannity. intrigue surrounding the jeffrey epstein case continues following his death with so many unanswered questions looming. trace gallagher with more. trace? >> while the investigations move forward, the focus will be on the women in his life, alleged
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victims and potential witnesses like his girlfriend who some accuse of helping to orchestrate his teenage sex ring. and yesterday she was spotted on the west coast in a southern california in and out burgerer reading a novel about the cia, a nonfiction book about the cia. epstein did not speak about the accusations against her. one day after being taken off of a suicide watch, epstein spent two hours with a mystery woman possibly from his legal team, aw different attorney visiting the jail told nbc news the quote optics were startling because the woman was young and pretty and on it gos. >> that's all the time we have for this evening. thanks for being with us. if you haven't already, make sure to order a copy of my new book, "witch hunt, the story of the greatest mass delusion in
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american political history." you can order it on-line in all of the usual places. sean will be back monday. have a great weekend.. have a great weekend. >> this is a special edition of the ingram angle from washington. rashid talib makes a huge issue of wanting to go to israel and says no thanks when she's granted a visa. we have breaking news of jeffrey epstein's cause of death. and hundreds of google employees call for the company not to work with i.c.e. and c.c.p. you want to hear about it. tom holman and brandon judd of the national border patrol counsel are here to respond.