amodei. jordan. armstrong. jordan. arrington. jordan. auchincloss. jeffries. bacon. mccarthy. baird. jordan. balderson. jordan. balint. jeffries.

barr. jordan. barragan. jeffries. bean of florida. jordan. beatty. jeffries. bentz. jordan. jordan. biggs. jordan. bilirakis. bishop of georgia. jeffries. bishop of north carolina.

jordan. blumenauer. jeffries. blunt bost. jordan. bowman. jeffries. boyle of pennsylvania. jeffries. brecheen. jordan. brown. jeffries. brownley.

buck. buck. bucshon. jordan. burchett. jordan. burgess. jordan. burlison, jordan. bush, cammack. jordan. caraveo. jeffries. carbajal. jeffries. cardenas.

carl. jordan. carson. jeffries. carter of georgia. jordan. carter of louisiana. jeffries. carter of texas. jordan. cartwright. jeffries. casar. jeffries. case. jeffries. casten. jeffries.

castor of florida. jeffries. castro of texas. jeffries. chavez-deremer. mccarthy. chu. jeffries. ciscomani. jordan. clark of massachusetts. jeffries. clarke of new

jeffries. cline. jordan. cloud. clyburn. jeffries. clyde. jordan. cohen. jeffries. cole. jordan. comer. jordan. connolly. jeffries. correa. jeffries. costa.

jeffries. courtney. jeffries. craig. jeffries. cuellar. jeffries. curtis. jordan. davis of kansas. jeffries. davidson. jordan. davis of illinois. jeffries. davis of north carolina.

jeffries. dean of pennsylvania. jeffries. degette. jeffries. de lacruz. jordan. delauro. jeffries. deluzio. jeffries. desaulnier. jeffries. desjarlais. jordan. d' esposito.

zelton. diaz-balart, duarte. jordan. duncan. jordan. dunn of florida. jordan. edwards. jordan. ellzey. garcia.

escobar. jeffries. feenstra. jordan. ferguson. jordan.

fitzgerald. jordan. fitzpatrick. jordan. fleischmann. jim jordan. jeffries. foushee. jeffries. foxx. jordan. lois frankel. jeffries. scott

frost. jeffries. fry. jordan. gallagher. jordan. gallego. jeffries. garamendi. jeffries. garbarino. zelden. mike garcia. jordan. robert garcia. jeffries. garcia of illinois. jeffries.

garcia of texas. jeffries. gimenez. mccarthy. golden of maine. jeffries. goldman of new york. jeffries. gomez. jeffries. tony gonzalez. scalise. vicente gonzalez. jeffries. good of virginia. jordan.

gooden of texas. jordan. gosar. jordan. gottheimer. jeffries. granger. granger. scalise. graves of louisiana. jordan. graves of missouri. jordan. green of tennessee. jordan. green of texas. jeffries. greene of

griffith. jordan. grijalva. jeffries. guest. jordan. guthrie. jordan. hageman. jordan. harder of california. jeffries. harris. jordan. harshbarger. jordan. hayes. >> sandra: you have been listening live on capitol hill, voting to elect the next house speaker. right now it does not appear jim jordan has the votes for the

speakership. at last count, it was -- just had the eighth republican to vote against jim jordan. so perhaps the take-away so far, john, is not jordan not going through on this first vote, but there's more no votes from republicans than perhaps anybody was expecting here so far. >> john: yeah, nine looks like at last count, three for scalise, three for mccarthy, two for lee zelden, and one for mike garcia, doesn't look like jim jordan will get it on the first vote. the big question, how many votes are we going to go through before jim jordan is elected speaker or go to back-up plan number two, let's bring in chad pergram on capitol hill. he's been watching all of this. if not jordan, chad, then who and when? >> well, what we want to know is does jim jordan and do republicans stand behind having a second ballot.

by rule you have supposed to go to a second ballot immediately but these are different circumstances, a level of desperation in congress trying to get a speaker because of the last two weeks, what's going on in the middle east, they can't vote on anything. but right now that delta, even though we are still relatively early in the roll call vote as you stated, jim jordan does not have the math. you know, the magic number today was going to be 216. l there is a total of 432 members, let me check something here, 216 was going to be the number here, there is one absent who is for jim jordan, he's not here right now, and so you draw down the number as to how many people you needed for somebody voting for candidates by name. and right now you have several votes for steve scalise, several votes for kevin mccarthy, you have votes for mike garcia, a republican of california. is this just a protest vote by the members who don't like jim jordan or think steve scalise was treated rather poorly by his

republican colleagues last week after he got the nomination and do they -- they say all right, it's not going to be jim jordan. i was told this morning if jim jordan could not wrap this up on the first or second ballot, some may say it's time to move on, let's do something else. and i would direct you to what mike kelly drafted a resolution to empower the speaker pro-tem, patrick mchenry to be the acting speaker to get on with business in the house, fubd the government next month, addressing the crisis in the middle east. they cannot do any of these things until they get a speaker. the question is whether or not jim jordan wants to continue to push the issue. he has the same problem kevin mccarthy had. he has by far and away most of the republican conference. that's the issue. but can he get over that delta. it's a very special mixture of votes that you need to have to become elected speaker of the house. and we don't know the magic

number. until they get through the entire alphabet, don't know how many people will cast ballots. ken buck, republican from california who expressed in the past 24 hours some problems he had with jim jordan and for that matter, steve scalise, he did not vote when his name was called. you had don bacon, the republican from nebraska who certainly was upset at the treatment that steve scalise got. he was the first one out of the ballot here and he voted for kevin mccarthy. at one point i asked him last night, the alphabetically, and the first up to vote and wished he had a z, but he was the first one out of the batch here. unless something changes or members vote present, if they were to switch their vote, which they can, or present, diminishes the threshold you need to vote for speaker that would lower the

threshold. and some point what you have, and this is me reading the tea leaves, could you have maybe some members say okay, let's vote, even though we are for jim jordan, do we vote present that lowers the threshold. that's possible, although they are doing it in realtime. sometimes it's hard parlimentarily to call a play like that, like a play on the football field, but maybe say ok, let's go to a second ballot and try again if john and sandra, they think the votes are in range. >> sandra: as you have been speaking, there are some house members who are saying that they are aware apparently that several of the members will change their votes in the next go around from yes to no. if there's a second round here coming up. dave joyce, republican from ohio, stayed quiet on his vote. missed his name in the roll call. john james missed his name in the roll call. make it up in the back end.

so, we are left wondering what happens next here, chad, and if indeed perhaps you are going to tell me it looks more unlikely by the minute they will go directly into a second roll call here. >> i think that's a decision they have to make on the fly. i mean, we saw what happened with kevin mccarthy where you had a clear nominee who was, what was in the range of getting to the votes, time after time again. sometimes 2 and 3 roll call votes a day. this is a little different if maybe they think ok, these members are getable, this was a protest vote, take a time out, put names into nomination and do it again. the flip side, you may harden the opposition, people really against jim jordan or what you could do is by forcing the issue the phone calls start to come, the emails start to come in. i cannot begin to characterize the level of pressure that is about 40 feet away from me inside the house chamber right now because they will really

start to work on the folks, crack knuckle, twist arms, they talk about it on capitol hill all the time, they rarely do it. this could be one of the instances where they do, they say we are in a desperate situation here, we don't have a functioning house of representatives and we need to get a speaker of the house. but could some of those members be turned or do they harden their position? sandra, the flip side, if they were to take a time out and help jim jordan, recalibrate, talk to these people and say what do you need, what could we do to make it better or does the timeout make the dissention grow. that's a hard scenario to read right now. it could go either way, and the fact they have not had a speaker of the house for two weeks. we have not been in this position since 1849, how cobb was speaker after a two-week hiatus. he won on the 63rd roll call vote. the house has not been voting. this is the first roll call vote

for speaker since they deposed kevin mccarthy two weeks ago today, sandra and john. >> john: all right, and when you take a look at it, a little past the halfway mark it would look, nobody has voted present yet, but we do have four votes for scalise, five for mccarthy, and four others that would be garcia and zelden. let's bring in our chief political correspondent for the "washington examiner" byron, i don't. two weeks without a speaker here, when are they going to get this done? >> you know, right now i think we shouldn't underplay the importance of emotion in this vote right now. because the people who are voting against jim jordan, they were angry with how kevin mccarthy was treated. and then they were angry with how steve scalise was treated and they are not going to let

jim jordan sail through on the first ballot. maybe they'll vote for him later. maybe this could change later. but this is almost a statement they are making of how unhappy they are. at the same time, they are also likely to be in that caucus that says this is crazy, this is embarrassing, we need a speaker, let's move on so that ultimately they would be more likely to vote for him. so i'm going to look to see if after a ballot or two some of them are going to say we made our point and now let's elect jordan speaker. >> sandra: really interesting here. so now the tally, 13 house republicans, byron, have voted against jim jordan. the emotions of the moment is an interesting observation, with many standing up. casting their votes with enthusiasm or lack thereof. byron, what do you think is going to happen here? i mean, chad is saying it's

really sort of an unprecedented moment, we can't really predict a second vote, but if he has now 13 by last tally, 13 republicans in the no category for jordan, it's probably unlikely that they would move into a second round here. >> i think so. i think what we have seen in this first ballot, there are more no votes than i was thinking would happen, we are at now 13 no votes. and if you were, a lot of speculation ahead of time, that the people who would be against jim jordan would be called the moderates in the house, versus the bomb throwers in the house who deposed kevin mccarthy. the idea was the bomb throwers were hard core, vote against kevin mccarthy, bring down the house no matter what the consequences were and the feeling about the moderates was they would cave at some point, they would say this is crazy,

the house needs to go on, we don't really -- jim jordan is not our first or our second choice, but we really need to move on and get a speaker. now, what we are seeing now is a stronger display of opposition than some had thought, and i think clearly chad was saying, you know, it's either going to get stronger or weaker after this first vote and we are going to have to wait and see. >> john: kevin mccarthy was not pure enough, scalise was not pure enough, if jordan is not acceptable, where do they go next, tom emmer or somebody else? >> it happens in politics when you have two candidates in a death match and neither one of them gets in a death match and somebody else does. the possibility chad was talking about actually changing the rules a bit and letting patrick mchenry stay on as speaker

pro-tem with some of the powers of the speakership, i think that would take a lot of democratic input to do. but it might be a possibility if somebody says look, we are having so much trouble getting a speaker, do we have to have a speaker of the house to do some of the things that we need or is it a roadblock we simply cannot get around, no way, no how, cannot address the israel-hamas situation, can't address ukraine aid, can't address a government shutdown coming down the tracks. we can't do any of that until we have a speaker. so, this is going to be very, very tense and very emotional but i wouldn't be surprised to see possibility of a third candidate coming out of somewhere. >> sandra: byron, if you could stand by on the breaking news, we are looking live on capitol

hill, the vote continues, unlikely jim jordan will win the speakership on the first vote at least. chad, what do you know? >> nothing is ever final until it's final. again, when they go through the roll call votes, until they go back through the alphabet, remember, i noted that ken buck, the republican from colorado did not vote, so he'll get to vote at the end and also ask if members want to change their vote. so while it appears unlikely right now that you know, jim jordan is going to wrap this up on the first ballot and this would compel them to go to a second ballot, you could have members maybe, maybe keep the vote open, have some horse trading in the chamber there, some arm twisting, and maybe, you know, try to rally the troops. say ok, you made your point, can you vote for jordan or can you switch to present. i would never rule that out in these circumstances because this has been so wild over the past couple of weeks. some of these members are absolutely opposed to jim jordan. i talked to one member last night who indicated they thought

how steve scalise was treated by the jordan people was disqualifying, so based on my conversation with that member they didn't think they would ever get that particular member. but one wonders, again, this is being played live on the field, this is like a sporting event, you don't know what is truly going to happen until they go to that final gun. until they blow that whistle, this vote is live. this vote is hot and those members could be persuaded, are they persuadeable, that is an unknown. that would be the test of jim jordan and his power potentially if he's going to be an effective speaker of the house to be able to bring those people across the finish line at the last minute. that was one of the knocks that mario dias-bilart said after steve scalise got the nomination the other day, jim jordan threw his support to steve scalise and the jordan people didn't follow.

how strong a leader is he? that tells the level of control over the members, so does jim jordan have enough political juice to whether it be on the floor while the roll call vote is still open or afterwards or later tonight or tomorrow to bring those folks across the floor, that remains to be seen, john and sandra. >> john: all right. chad, i get the sense wherever you go to the horse races you put a couple of bucks on the long shot just for fun. >> you are right about that. >> john: now this. >> we feel we will die every minute, every second.

we hope we are still alive. >> we have today unlike the holocaust, a state, army and people that can fight back. >> the president believes this is the right time to go to israel. >> i don't like he is coming here, doesn't need to come here, doing it for the election. he's stopping us now from revenge and we need revenge. >> sandra: our coverage continues of the war in the middle east. waiting an update this hour from the pentagon, after 2,000 american troops are placed on stand-by for a possible deployment to the war. heightened state of readiness for thousands of troops comes as the pentagon is sending thousands of marines to the coast as the u.s. looks to deter iran and hezbollah from widening the conflict. >> john: president biden is set to fly to israel to show solidarity with america's

closest ally in the middle east. questions are growing at home or a new bombshell report that found more than $1 billion of u.s. taxpayer money has been sent to a u.n. group that may have passed that money over to hamas. sandra, by and large, a fairly quiet day today but did get a lot hotter this evening. our alerts have been going off mostly around tel aviv and the cities south. a couple of missiles that made it through the iron dome. one hit in the neighborhood of roshon, south of tel aviv, no injuries in that. another missile hit in the city of sderot, very close to gaza. we had the commander here to speak with the israeli defense minister and the important trip president joe biden tomorrow comes on the heels of the german chancellor here today and now announcements the british prime minister and the french president will travel to israel as we await the beginning of the

much anticipated ground operation in gaza. >> sandra: and the president will stop there tomorrow, and pointing out as president xi of china meets with the president of russia, vladimir putin. so there is a lot happening right now on the global stage. fox team coverage for you right now from across the globe over the next two hours on this breaking news from the war in the middle east. trey yingst live on the ground in southern israel. what can you tell us is the latest from there? >> john, sandra, good afternoon. a lot of updates for you. this hour, rocket sirens have been sounding in southern and central tel aviv. 11 days into the conflict, hamas has the ability to target major population centers. and new reports in the last 20 minutes, palestinians claim israel targeted a hospital.

we are waiting to hear back from the israeli military. and intelligence source that there are hundreds of american citizens trapped inside gaza. we are talking about palestinian americans, some are visiting family, others working for ngos inside the strip when the massacre took place that kicked off this 11-day conflict. i want you to listen a few seconds. i spoke earlier with a woman trying to cross into egypt, i want you to listen to her voice, fearful is the best way to describe it. worried about getting herself and family out of gaza and back to the united states. take a listen here. >> at a position in southern israel, officer from the brigade describes how his soldiers are preparing for battle. >> our mission is to wipe out hamas. if we won't do it, it's a crime against humanity. hamas has no right to exist. >> this unit will be one of the first to enter gaza when orders are given to launch a ground

invasion. you can see troops on the move here in southern israel. golani brigade are waiting for orders to enter the gaza strip. they say they are ready to fight and understand that it will be a difficult battle ahead. these soldiers come from reserve duty. many thought army life was over. after the massacre last weekend, they leave behind young families and big dreams with one common goal. >> i have to protect my people, the people i love. and i know that this hamas can danger them, after what they did here, after they, what they did to citizens, to innocent citizens, that did nothing to them. >> israeli from the north was recently married, his wife is expecting their first child. >> i really want to be with her but i also want her to be safe and my son who will be born to be safe as well, so i know i need to be here. >> get down, get down, get down.

>> as the troops get ready, rocket fire sends them running for cover. a rocket fired over the position, you can hear the interceptions overhead. soldiers working on the tanks just ran for cover in different positions. they got to make sure that the shrapnel coming down from the rockets does not hit anyone on the ground. >> what you saw there was a reporting from the golani brigade in israel. have you listen to a woman inside gaza we spoke with earlier today, hold on one moment, i'll play the sound for you. >> how are you feeling right now, as an american citizen? >> i'm american citizen, they are not helping us to leave gaza. we are trapped here, they start bombing at night. >> the woman saying they are trapped inside gaza as she is an american citizen. we spoke on the phone and you could hear the fear in her

voice. she's trying to get out, along with hundreds of americans, fox news has learned. back to you. >> sandra: trey yingst on the ground. see you again shortly. >> john: trey is in the hot zone. general michael carilla is in meetings, as the u.s. surges support to the most important mideast ally and marine rapid response force, is heading closer to israel. it is unclear at this point, though, if that unit will join up with the u.s.s. gerald ford strike group in the mediterranean. rich edson live at the pentagon. do we expect the troops on stand-by to head to the region soon? >> they are on 24 hours' notice.

they have to be ready to go on just 24 hours' notice. the way the pentagon is phrasing it, went out from the deputy spokesperson, secretary austin placed approximately 2,000 personnel and a range of units on a heightened state of readiness through a prepare to deploy order which increases dods ability to spobd to the security environment in the middle east. no decisions have been made to deploy any forces at this time. separately a u.s. defense official says the 26th marine expeditionary unit and sailors are moving closer to israel via the red sea. and extended the strike group deployment in the mediterranean, nearing the end of the assignment. eisenhower carrier strike group on the way to the region as well, and could arrive in the next several days. >> what the aircraft carrier gives you is -- gives the president more options if we

have to further expand our presence in the region, but a strong signal to iran and also to lebanese hezbollah, means less for the fight in gaza but means a lot about the opportunities we have to prevent the war from widening to a theater wide general war. >> the commander was in israel, and met with the defense minister, wants to ensure israel has what it needs in the fight and prevent the war from spreading to other parties, in particular, that's usually meant from the u.s. government, hezbollah and other iran-backed militias throughout the region. john. >> john: rich, thank you. >> sandra: from the pentagon back to washington and capitol hill, where we have an update from chad pergram. what do we know? >> they are getting close to closing this roll call vote, this first vote here for speaker

of the house and clear they have to go to a second ballot unless some members were to change their positions from the first roll call vote. the vote is still open, casting ballots. 15 republicans who voted for someone other than jim jordan. there were votes for kevin mccarthy, the former house speaker, there were votes for steve scalise, and a vote for mike garcia, and lee zelden, the speaker of the house does not have to be a member and we have some members cast ballots for people not members of congress. ten such persons get ballots, or cast ballots for people who were not members of the house since 2007. donald trump, a few years ago for david walker, controller of the currency. what they will do at the end, go through the members who did not cast ballots and see how they are going to vote, and here is the list we have here. so republican of florida away for a funeral, he is expected

back later tonight and he is a supporter of jim jordan. you also have ken buck, unclear what his situation is, although he did speak out against both scalise and jordan. tony cardenas, voted but was not present. john james from michigan, david joyce from northeastern ohio, a republican, and victoria sparks, republican from indiana, she voted they would not vote to bring jim jordan across the finish line and back and forth in terms of some of her statements whether or not she would vote present or vote or vote for somebody else. you can't rely on her vote what so far, and nobody is clear what her position is. what we do know is that jim jordan, unless something again changes dramatically, it's not final until they gavel down the vote and it appears kevin mccarthy is going to do that right now. they are going to go through the list of people who they did not get on the first round.

>> bilirakas. buck. emmer. cardenas. jeffries. james. cole. >> sandra: it appears that buck, the republican from colorado voted for emmer, the majority whip. i assume you heard the same that i did there. >> yes, i did, and actually right as you came to me they called the name of tom cole, the republican from oklahoma, one of the members did not vote.

that's another one. so by my lay count here, up to 17 total ballots against jim jordan. remember when they came out of the conference meeting on friday, you know, there were an awful lot of people, 81 republicans who voted for austin scott, somebody who had not even run, the republican from georgia didn't put any blood, sweat or tears into this and commanded 81 votes. they got the number down into the mid 50s and then whittling away since then. and i talked to a member off the floor, do we know what's going to happen next, we don't know. what jim jordan has done, this was part of his strategy to go to the floor, to figure out who were the persons against him. try to smoke out those members. and then maybe try to apply pressure. i was told by a republican source the pressure campaign was a card best threatened and not played.

if they try to threaten some of these members, you better vote for jim jordan, you light up the phone calls, people in the district, former president trump, of course has endorsed jim jordan for speaker, could that backfire, could that further cement the opposition to jim jordan. that is in fact possible because some of these members, they are very upset right now, and don't forget just how emotional all this is for members. i spoke to one very senior republican last night who said a lot of the members right now are in a desperate place. they are in a bad place. not making good decisions based on fact and precedent and everything else. they are doing this on emotion and that's a problem as they try to get the -- go through the roll call votes. what will happen here, they have gone through the rest of the alphabet, they have these tally clerks in the front of the chamber and go through to make sure that everybody has a consistent number of total ballots cast, who all voted for jordan, who all voted for

jeffries, scalise, mccarthy, some of the cats and dogs here, lee, mike garcia as well, and then read the vote total. does the house vote to adjourn, that's very possible, or does jim jordan and there's a lot of caucuses on the floor right now, as members try to figure out what is next, what does jim jordan want to do, what is the best next step and keep in mind that jim jordan, even though he knows who the people are that are against him and maybe can try to work with them a little bit, you also have a situation where people say i'm not changing at all. and so you know, that demonstrates the level of animosity inside the republican conference right now. it's the animosity that stems from one wing of the republican conference that ousted mccarthy as speaker of the house two weeks ago today and some members will try to communicate that urgency and say we have to get a speaker because we have been vacant for two weeks now.

it's a problem we cannot legislate. that's what the conversation will be over the next couple of minutes. >> sandra: chad, considering the right-hand side of the screen, you see the seven votes for scalise, can scalise somehow throw those votes to jordan? obviously one vote per member. but obviously scalise could hard sell them on changing their vote. >> right. and that's part of the question. was it just a protest vote, that will be up to kevin mccarthy. can he kind of unleash his people and send them in the direction of jim jordan, the same thing with steve scalise. that's a question. again, i cannot begin to underscore the level of animosity over some of the members how they felt steve scalise was treated after he got the nomination and then undercut, they think, by jim jordan and they went to the floor. so yes, maybe, that will be contingent upon them. do they want to do that, do they have the power to do that over those members.

members are very independent about their votes. it's one thing maybe to switch their position on voting for a bill or amendment, when it comes to voting for speaker of the house, where the microscope is so finally tuned and the lights are so bright on national television in the middle of a congress, we don't have very often, and two such votes like this twice in the past two weeks, that changes everything. that will force some perhaps to want to change their vote,s they feel the pressure and others might harden their position and resist, sandra. >> sandra: so right now -- they could go into a second ballot right away, there is some thinking there could be a recess here. we'll take the temperature of the members, and we are sort of just watching the sausage be made here, chad. >> absolutely. it takes a few minutes. during one of the speaker votes for kevin mccarthy, took almost half hour to run through and figure out, until they come back

and make an announcement. the next thing to watch for, what the official vote tally is on the floor. that's coming next. >> sandra: we will get back to you shortly with an update from capitol hill. we'll keep watching it. thank you. john. >> john: we are still learning new details about the horrific massacre at that super nova music festival in southern israel. at least 260 festival goers were murdered and unknown number taken hostage by hamas terrorists. our next guest was there and was able to make it out and survive by staying in a nearby river for hours. i know you drove more than an hour to get to us. appreciate you joining us. when you look back on it now with ten days of reflection, can you even begin to believe what happened that day? >> honestly, every day it's something i'm thinking about. it's not something that is very easy to comprehend that easily.

this is something that as -- i've never witnessed before, of course. i mean -- the horror i witnessed is something that i don't wish anyone to go through, but i'm here to tell the story of the people that can tell it and i'm here to say what i've been through and i want people to know the truth. >> john: tell me your story of survival. 3 to 4,000 people dancing all night in peace and celebration. sun comes up, hamas terrorists infiltrated the dance. what happened to you, what happened to people around you? >> we are all looking forward to this peace festival. saturday morning at right around 5:30, 5:00 a.m., together with a friend joining a group of a dozen people, around 6:30 the rockets start shooting. no one -- no one really expected the rockets to come. surely no one expected the gunfire and the terrorists coming in as well.

but when that happened, everyone took shelter, the police told us take the car, just leave. unfortunately, the reality we live in, these rockets do not surprise us. it's something you are used to. >> john: the gunfire was different. >> gunfire was different, that came later on. took our stuff and went to the car, 3,000 people in the peace festival, a lot of people -- very challenging to get out. so i suggested an idea, why don't we take the road less traveled. might do a shortcut. so the first -- the people that went first, they are the ones that went shot. the terrorists were blocking that road and they were shooting them with machine guns. >> john: we saw the carnage along the road, all the cars, all the bodies. >> so you can see that as well. and i was kind of last -- i was last in the line in the traffic. but the moment we understood things are getting out of control when i saw a wounded woman in front of me bleeding to

death, shot in her left knee. we see her bumping into the next car in front of us, and the door opens and all her leg is basically shot. we try to help her, block her wound, get water, so many people around her, wasn't really any point. a few seconds later there were gun -- there was a lot of gunfire coming northwest, we were not sure, but that kind of area -- we left our car there, all our gear, and went to the river next to it. >> john: you hid in the riverbed. >> we were hiding there in the bushes, behind the trees. gunfire kept coming and coming. people were -- some were panicking. most of us didn't know what was going on. >> john: how did you get out of there? >> well, that's something i ask myself every day. kind of a miracle because we left in time. basically the terrorists, they were coming from the north and they were closing down south. they tried to do a 360 on us.

unfortunately, they didn't, but they conquered the other villages around us. so when i saw the wounded woman, she was dying in front of my eyes, so we just -- i opened the maps and i saw the closest city next to us called patesh, 15 kilometer, not sure how much in miles but quite far east so we went straight there, straight line in the river. that kind of intuition, i don't know how to explain it, kind of something that i said maybe that's a safe spot, far away from the gunshots, and we were walking for four hours until we felt a shelter. >> john: 260 people died at that music festival, more than 1,000 in the kibbutzes and towns in that area. the ground forces amassed outside of gaza waiting for orders to go in, president joe biden is coming here tomorrow, president biden macron, the british prime minister also coming here. what do you believe needs to happen to respond to a week ago

saturday? >> very simple. you got to take down hamas. hamas doesn't represent the palestinian people. all they want is jewish blood, kill as many people as possible. we have to take them out because they are causing all this. there would have been peace a long time ago but not going to happen with hamas. take them down, do it aggressively, we all have to stand together. this is one of the most important points in history, might be even a turning point. i've seen these horrors, i've seen hamas killing my friends, five of them, and just can't happen. this reality cannot continue. so we are strong, and i hope people understand hamas, they are worse than isis, much worse and we have to be aggressive and hopefully we have the green light from the other countries. i hope for the best, i just hope

for the 199 hostages that will come back safe. i don't want to even know what they are going through over there. women are getting raped, they are getting humiliated, kids, babies, these are all evidence, a lot of fake news out there that spread like fire. people don't double check the facts. and we have to spread the truth. i am the truth and the evidence, i've been there, i've seen it. and we cannot have mercy towards hamas. hamas is like isis as i said, they are a terrorist group, and we just have to stand for ourselves. >> john: we will be following it closely to see what happens with the president's meetings and other meetings that netanyahu will have, and whether or not the ground operation gets underway. you are here by the grace of god and we thank you for joining us. we appreciate it. sandra. >> sandra: incredible story there, john. thank you for that. live now to capitol hill, we are tracking what is happening there on the floor. we have a tally now, 212 votes

for jeffries, 200 for jordan, 7 scalise, 6 mccarthy. listen to kevin mccarthy. >> we don't have to be stuck on the floor. the interesting part is why we are here every single democrat voted to stop one branch of government. they created this mess with eight republicans. every single democrat did this. and so i think what we'll do, we'll go sit down, we'll talk to those that have a difference of opinion and come back. >> excuse us. thank you. >> you feel bad for mr. -- do you feel bad -- for mr. jordan. you threw your support for him. do you feel bad for him? >> no, no, don't overread into this. this is about the same vote i had on my first vote out. no, no, no, no, let's go back to how i got here. we wouldn't be here if every single democrat didn't vote with eight republicans to shut this place down.

that's -- no -- >> republicans voted against jim jordan today on the floor. including -- >> every single democrat and eight republicans voted to shut down one branch of government. no other reason we are here today but because of that. now a vote on the floor, didn't get to the whole point, now take a break, talk to people and come back and solve it. >> is this going to be today? >> sandra: there he is, chad pergram, you have kevin mccarthy there, now we know a recess. don't know how long that will be, chad, before they go into a second ballot. what was your take away from that? >> you know, that's what i was trying to get from kevin mccarthy here to try to understand, you know, were they going to vote right away, what was going to be the next step. he continues to go back to last week, two weeks ago i should say when he was bounced from the speakership. there were just enough republicans who voted him out, ousting him as the speaker. he turned this back around on the democrats, and this is where

i asked him, i said this is not really a democrats' problem. you had 15 people who voted for somebody else than the candidates who you endorsed as the speaker of the house. you voted endorsed jim jordan, that did not happen. and you had votes for lee zelden, the former congressman from long island, ran for governor, votes for tom emmer, the majority whip, tom cole, thomas massey, all over the map. so rehashing two weeks ago, yes, that's the roll call vote that got them here but that does not solve the problem today. and i want to point to something that's very important. by our tally, there are 200 votes total for jim jordan. i've always been told in the house of representatives that that 200 vote threshold, even though you need 218 to move most bills, 217, 216 maybe today, 200 vote threshold is very important

psychologically, and had he come in a little lower below that, maybe the gig would have been up for jim jordan but he did come in at 200 and the thing for jim jordan now, he knows what opposes him and as kevin mccarthy said to me a couple minutes ago, perhaps he can say what do you need, was this just a protest vote, do you need to think this over, do something for you. this is -- as you put it earlier, sandra, this is the sausage that's being made. and i should point out, the sausage is made like this all the time on capitol hill on the bills, on amendments, but what's different over the past two weeks is the fact we are seeing this play out before cameras in realtime, and that's what's so important and that's why it seems so dramatic, it is. there's going to be a lot of anger, a lot of thinking, and don bacon, b as in boy, one of

the first persons when they went through the role to vote for somebody other than jim jordan. was there added pressure there. but that's a district that is a battleground district, it's a district that president biden actually won and the way they allocate the electoral votes there in nebraska, so joe biden got one of those. that might have been a smart political vote. so members are going to vote their district. i talked to one member who said they are going to feel the pressure from the pro jordan forces and gave me their area code, and said if i didn't hear from somebody in area code blank blank blank then your opinion does not count when it comes to me, sandra. >> sandra: and some reporting that gop lawmakers went on the record before the first ballot that if it went to a second, that they would not support jordan the second time around. so, is it safe to say as i leave this off, chad, that in the second ballot there would be likely less support for jordan? >> you know, that's what we have been told, they said ok, one

shot here, maybe two, maybe two, so maybe that second ballot. and this is where the timing question is so important. is it better to go right away. well, obviously they are not going right away. does it get worse if they take more of a timeout. >> sandra: got it. chad pergram, we will get back to you shortly as we see how it plays out. john. >> john: let's bring in the wall street journal columnist and fox news contributor bill mcgurn. thank you for being with us. seems incongruous, being in a war zone and going to a second vote, did going to get better for jim jordan or worse? >> i can't predict that. if i could predict that, i would be a rich man living on some island. but i do think it's important to note chad said a lot of congressmen are voting their districts. they might be in pro biden