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to the truck owner who was behind the wheel. so now you know. >> dana: how are they going to trying to blame the valet? speech you can't blame that guy. before we go -- when you were out last week, we are watching this every day. that is either jackie or shadow. we don't know if it's a mom or the dad. >> dana: they split the domestic duties. >> they are squabbling over whose turn it is to keep the eggs warm. remember, there were three, and any day right now we believe we will get a hatch. one of my sisters, saint and, she claims she captured on camera one of the chicks poking through the egg. >> i think she's right. i saw her little video. i would say she's correct, and i look forward to this result on super tuesday tonight. harris faulkner takes you through the next hour. he or she is. ♪ ♪ >> harris: you are doing it!
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americans voting for the largest single day delegate grab on the calendar, and voters are casting their ballots in 15 states, already a key victory in play for former president donald trump. that is because his name is actually on the ballot in colorado. after yesterday's rare unanimous decision by the supreme court. in short, states do not have the right to rip a candidate's name off a federal election ballot. i'm harris faulkner. you are in "the faulkner focus." trump in the his only remaining republican opponent, nikki haley, are competing for that big hall paid 854 delegates today. haley has not yet won a single state. she did win washington, d.c., this week, but she has picked up some delegates along the way proportionately with the percentages that qualify. here is the delegate count. going to the huge native primary results. trump has 273, including a victory just from last night in north dakota. that super tuesday eve.
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and haley has 43 with her victory on sunday in d.c. trump says he's feeling confident. >> she said she beat ron desantis in iowa and she didn't. she misrepresents a lot of facts. she is not doing nearly well, not doing very well against biden. there is no path for her to win. whether she liked hearing that are not, there is no path for her to win no matter what. >> harris: nikki haley is showing no signs of backing d down. >> so many people said they wanted someone to vote for because they think it's a terrible mistake that we are going with two candidates in their 80s that can't serve eight years. this is about me living the country i love so much. you look at the fact that they were 14 candidates in the race, we defeated a dozen of them. i've got one left. >> harris: fox team coverage
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for you today. let's begin with bill melugin in haley's home state of south carolina. bill? >> good morning. nikki haley is going to be here in charleston today watching these returns come in tonight. you just mentioned it, donald trump has been going after her a lot over the fact that she once said she would never run against him. obviously that didn't turn out to be the case. she addressed that on fox news this morning. take a listen. >> i've campaigned for a lot of governors and house and senate members, and after we lost all of those elections, that is when we decided to jump in, because we lost in 2018, we lost in 2020, in 2022. >> this is video of nikki haley in texas last night where she was campaigning her last spot on the campaign trail before super tuesday. we asked the campaign, are there any states in particular that are feeling good about tonight? states where they feel they've got a better shot? they told us they are not going to give us individual states, but keep an eye on the states
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they have campaign did in recent days. it would be an indicator. some of those include texas, minnesota, vermont, maine, and colorado. but he's got a lot of catching up to do. the current delegate count, donald trump, 273 delegates compared to nikki haley's 43. you need just over 1200 to secure the nomination. 874 are going to be up for gras tonight on the super tuesday. donald trump is hoping for a clean sweep. take a listen. >> my focus really, at this point, is on biden. we should win almost every state today. i think every state. last night, as you know, we won with 87% of the vote. we won north dakota. we are winning against biden in every single poll and everybody knows it. whether it's "the new york times," any of the polls that had been taken over the last months. >> and, harris, as of right now, nikki haley doesn't have public
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events scheduled here in charleston today or tomorrow. they tell us on background they don't expect that to change. back to you. >> harris: i got your background note, too. it's interesting, because my last interview with nikki haley was about whether or not she thought she could win a single state before today. so going into today, what were the areas they thought maybe? >> again, they didn't give us individual states but they told us look where they've been campaigning in recent days. i think virginia is one state you want to keep an eye on. minnesota, certainly going to be another state to keep an eye on. those will be probably some of her best chances. >> harris: gotcha. bill melugin, always great to see you. polling expert lee carter is here, and welcome. i bring that up because they may not want to name the states people haven't voted, but minnesota, that's an interesting one. what do you make of what's going on in minnesota with the uncommitted vote? much like they had in michigan. >> i just don't think you will end up playing to her favor as much as she wants to say there
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might be a chance she's going to win there. i don't see it happening paid all the polling suggests that minnesota is still going to trump no matter if the undeclared voters are still able to vote for her. >> harris: and on the biden side it's a big problem for him. >> a big issue for him. that's a big symbolic problem for him, because he's not able to get all these voters who are making a big statement saying they are protesting his foreign policy and other issues, as well. >> harris: arab american muslims in michigan sent quite the message with over 100,000 votes. they even picked up a couple of delegates against the president and the uncommitted column just sending that message. we will see how they turn out and vote in november, but they are sending word now. i do want to talk a bit about going into tonight. nikki haley also was asked if she would support the g.o.p. nominee. her answer was interesting this morning. she was with fox & friends. let's look at that and talk
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about the total race between these two. >> why the change cannot go out on the debate stage you said he will support the nominee, and now you're saying if it's donald trump it doesn't mean you're a democrat but you just don't support him? >> i didn't awful on that. what i said is that is not a decision i have to make today. i haven't heard him pledge to me that he would support me if i won. so i don't know why i have to go and pledge to him that i would support him. >> what do you think of that? >> i think she is unwilling to acknowledge that there is any chance she is going to not be in the race for the long haul. so i don't think she is saying she won't support trump. i don't know how she couldn't. she couldn't necessarily for her support behind joe biden, unless she has something to my plans to do something in a third party, which she said she isn't going to do. i think she's trying to make sure she doesn't say anything anyone can cut into a sound bite that sounds like she's admitting that it's over. >> harris: it's interesting, you don't want to do that if you are a candidate.
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i take her -- clearly she is saying she wants to be somebody else's choice in case they are looking for that today. so i take her very clearly on her word there. talk to me about today and how you see it shaking out. 854 delegates on the g.o.p. side. >> i think it's going to be a pretty big sweep for donald trump. it is all that done. there's not a single poll i see that suggests nikki haley has a path to win any single state. there are a couple states where we don't have real recent polls. alaska, arkansas, and colorado. we are not sure what's going happen, but if democrats or anything to indicate, i think they will still go for the eight. massachusetts, california, texas, alabama, tennessee, minnesota, maine, oklahoma. he's got a lead in utah and vermont. i don't see how she will get anywhere, especially in the southern states are he's really doing well. they are saying the worst performing states donald trump might have is massachusetts,
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vermont, and virginia. >> harris: virginia was one of the ones bill melugin just mentioned with me when i asked what you're hearing from the campaign that we can say on the record. he said, "i can't say definitively which states, but look at where she's been." >> it's also important to look where she's not going. she has no events planned beyond today. none. >> harris: what does that tell you? >> that she doesn't know where she's going to go and doesn't have a path forward. so we might hear she's out of the race, but she has no events, she has no tv, no radio booked. people saying she has digital player, but nothing else is but right now beyond today. >> harris: we will cover it as it happens. in fact, we are on track for a 202020b match potentially between biden and trump. what could that look like? here is kellyanne conway. >> everybody is pulling. fox news, "new york times," ap, reuters. it also is the same thing. trump is dominating biden in the swing states, nationally, and most important on who you trust
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more to handle the issues. >> harris: president biden, and a rare print interview, told the new yorker, "i'm the only one who's ever beat him, and i'll beat him again." but he'll have the same unpopular vice president on the ticket, kamala harris. former president trump has a big opportunity to go bold and new with his choice. when an opinion piece points out, smelled of the influence of the vp pick usually is, trump has several ways to turn the right choice into a winning hand. be seven has no choice. he's the ticket of 2020, four years worse for wear. while trump heads into the rematch with a new element on his side. your reaction? >> i think this is a really big distinction between the two. in 2016, when donald trump was picking his vp, it was something to balance amount, because a lot of people had concerns he was too chaotic, they weren't sure he had enough experience, so he went with a balance. this time we see something different. he is choosing his successor. that is going to say, what is the future of the party?
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and i think it will get people energized, excited, and i think it is a big distinction. >> harris: i know he has listed a short list that did not have nikki haley on it. i would point this out, when you look at people who vote for her and will only vote for her, the number is 59%. like, they are for haley. that's part of the party he may not get with his base being still around 35%. he is picking up communities of color, picking up based on biden's mistakes at this point. your last thought? >> there is no question about that. he has picked up with the black vote, the hispanic vote, even female voters. such a significant amount, young voters, as well, from 2020. i think it's a different race and he doesn't have to pick up in the same way he did. i think he can win without nikki's voters. as much as they say they won't vote for donald trump, i don't believe they will vote for joe biden. i just don't. >> harris: you've talked to so many of them, too. lee carter, thank you very much. so good to see you. super tuesday coverage kicks off
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at 7:00 p.m. eastern with bret baier and martha maccallum, right here on fox news channel page you know how i s say it, fnc for the cool kids. operation meltdown. they hope for severe damage if donald trump could be kept off the primary ballot across the country beginning with colorado. but we know the u.s. supreme court said, nope, trump's name stays. >> they honestly think that somehow they should decide who gets to be on the ballot, not the american voters. >> harris: however, trump legal battles are far from over. his next challenge, convincing that same high court to decide that presidential immunity shield him from prosecution. my guess, fox news legal editor. stay with me. meowners are callig newday to pay off credit card debt that's been piling up. many were shocked to learn they've been paying 22% on their credit card balances.
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>> harris: i mean, it is melting down on liberal networks, op-eds, and, oh, boy, the unanimous ruling against the ballot man in colorado, and some democrats have a new idea, a new scheme. >> i'm working with a number of my colleagues, including debbie wasserman schultz and eric swalwell, to revive legislation that we had to set up a process by which we could determine that someone committed to my committing instruction is disqualified by that amendment. >> harris: house speaker mike johnson's office is going after that idea. democrats need to get a grip, in this country the american people decide the next president, not the courts and not the congress. that's from the new speaker. and the trump team is looking to
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its next big u.s. supreme court test. trump's presidential immunity case, fox justice correspondent david spunt to set it up. >> hi, hair spray good be with you. donald needs at least five justices. it would be great for him to get marta back in on this issue presidential immunity. while he is celebrating the win yesterday, this could be a much tougher feat for him to get at least five justice to back them on immunity. they have said they will hear the arguments on presidential immunity and whether trump can use presidential immunity the week of april 22nd. we are waiting for the state on the calendar from the supreme court. specifically this relates to the federal case where the former president is charged with trying to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election. the high court agreed to hear his appeal, further putting his trial on hold. it was supposed to begin yesterday.
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all presidents republican or democrat should be protected from prosecution by present immunity, according to trump. here is his argument. >> if a president doesn't have full immunity, you really don't have a president, because nobody that is serving in that office will have the courage to make, in many cases, will be the right decision, or the wrong decision. >> special counsel jack smith argues that no one, not even a former president, can't escape accountability. his acts were not related to his official duties but designed to stay in power, subverting the constitution in the process. we don't know what they are going to do, but expected to be split on this decision if they rule against trump and realized that he is not protected by immunity. it starts all over again, and we are expecting this case in washington, d.c., with judge chutkan in late summer, early fall, which gets close to the election.
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if they agree with donald trump that he's protected and gets majority, that means this case essentially goes away. >> harris: david spunt, thank you very much. let's go straight to kerri kupec urbahn, fox news legal editor and former counsel to attorney general bill barr. first of all, what does this do for those impending cases coming up? and you need at least five on the u.s. supreme court. >> it is unclear what they are going to do here. i'm surprised they even took it up at all. they had full discretion, and the fact that the supreme court takes up less than 1% of the petition submitted them each year, and they chose to pick up this one, it is significant. however, the lower court, the federal appeals court, really rejected trump's immunity argument in a pretty sweeping way, so it is unclear if the supreme court is willing to strike that down in its entirety, if they are going to affirm it, or is split somehow. i expect to see some nuance
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arguments from the supreme court. >> harris: i'm curious, now that you have set it up that way, why did the u.s. supreme court take it to? >> that is what everyone wants to know. we don't know who decided to vote yes to take it up. you only need four yes votes to take a supreme court case up. if we knew who those justices were, it might give us a better sense of where their heads are at with respect to this issue, but we really just don't know. >> harris: a full-blown liberal media meltdown. you may have seen it, after the supreme court ruling on trump's ballot eligibility. so that was a reaction to his victory at the u.s. supreme court yesterday. let's watch. >> it frankly gives him a way out of being held accountable at the ballot box. >> unfortunately for america, the court isn't necessarily wrong. they are not doing their job on a lot of these big issues. >> a refusal to hold this man accountable, and those who
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engaged in insurrection. >> it just goes against what our judicial system should be about. >> donald trump, i believe, is a danger to american democracy. >> he can still be the president of the united states, and i though that the 14th amendment and our framers knew better. >> harris: she's an attorney and she is saying that. interesting. some headlines praised the decision. one, it shows that democracy is not partisan. another declares supreme court nine lawfare eight. and the courts won't save them from trump. i just want to catch, the journalist there, danna basch, said that the supreme court isn't doing their job. what would her argument for that be? >> it is unclear to me because it was particularly significant that the court chose to speak in a per curiam opinion, meaning they spoke with one voice, which is why amy coney barrett and her
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concurrence said let this be a clear message to all americans, this is where we had landed. it makes sense, harris. the idea that a state could unilaterally disenfranchise millions of voters across the country, removing from the ballot the choice of candidate from individual people, just defies democracy. you would think that everyone would be on the same page about this, whether you like donald trump or not. and yet, the reaction is troubling. frankly, that reaction says a lot more about where we are at in the state of this country than i think most other things do. >> harris: real quickly, they have this scheme that they are going use the federal government now to keep him off the ballot. >> they do, and it's interesting, because the opinion raises questions about congress' role. we know that congress has a remedial role because the plain text of the constitution speaks to this. only congress can undisqualify someone. but the question is, who disqualifies them? doesn't mean that they pass a law? that was unclear in the opinion. i will say, harris, the supreme court was pretty clear,
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and i want to read this one sentence. when they talk about, it is clear they are saying if donald trump wins and there is an effort to overturn that election, here is what is going to happen. the destruction would be all the more acute and would nullify the votes of millions and change the election results if section three enforcement were attempted after the nation has voted. and here is the key sentence that everyone should pay attention to hear. nothing in the constitution requires that we endure such chaos. arriving any time or different times, up to and perhaps beyond the inauguration. >> harris: wow. i do want to point this out, the gallup poll most recently found that immigration, number one, we know that coming out of the primary, for americans across the country, irrespective of party. number two, above the economy, above inflation, gallup. trust in government. and this is part of government. i mean, the justice. wow.
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we are awaiting another big ruling in georgia and a judge says he will rule against fulton county district attorney fani willis. this story is so steamy! she and her entire office could be disqualified from georgia's election meddling case against trump, and there may be an additional bombshell to throw in. a witness against fani willis. a new filing claim, a prosecutor named cindy lee eger overheard a phone call between willis and terrence bradley, her prosecutor paramour's former attorney. that's what i call nathan wade because he was married when he and fani willis were entangled. and this is a quote. "miss yeager heard district attorney willis tell mr. bradley, they are coming for us. you don't need to talk to them about anything about us. "how in the world do you have a conversation like that and be
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overheard? >> it's even more interesting is that the codefendant who filed this just yesterday said that this prosecutor would be willing to testify under oath that bradley, the when we saw in thed that said he didn't recall things, that he told her directly this relationship began long before what they represented to the court, which be a big problem, harris, because it goes against the credibility of bradley in terms of impeaching the witness, and the judge will have to contend with that, as well. >> harris: even with the person she formerly had hired and she stayed in the women's condominium, or that townhome, condo, whatever it was, the witness who said the relationship started before they said it did, you are discrediting two people's testimony under oath. nathan wade and fani willis.
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wow. always great to have you. thank you. i'm telling you, that story just gets more interesting by the minute. unbelievable. all right, anti-israel protesters are still going after democrats. nobody seems to be exempt. watch this. >> you refused to call it a genocide. >> i need you to understand this is not okay. >> it is not okay that you are not actively against it. >> harris: we used the part without all the f-bombs and other words in it. this went on for quite some time. even progressives like the congresswoman, alexandria ocasio-cortez, that you see there, are feeling heat. and the uncommitted, remember, that was the vote i talked to lee carter about just moments ago, that happened in michigan and is set to happen today. super tuesday in minnesota. that headache is getting bigger for president biden. more states have that line on their ballot after michigan's protest vote last week.
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wait. president biden is expected to pick up the most delegates he needs to lock up the democratic nomination today. that sounds awesome for him, right? except for one thing: something called the uncommitted vote. it is an unexpected challenge, and it reared its head with 101 plus thousand votes in michigan. in fact, he ended up having fewer people vote for him in that state then donald trump did on the republican side, about the same amount. interesting. progressive democrats are furious at biden's handling of israel's war on hamas, after hamas raped and tortured and killed people along the border in gaza on october 7th. people in michigan formed the uncommitted line on the ballot, and again 101 plus thousand votes for somebody named uncommitted anybody other than biden.
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nearly half the states have an uncommitted were no preference option on the ballot. >> their efforts on uncommitted in california and a number of other super tuesday states. it is significant. the president is winning overwhelmingly, in the primaries, and i don't think this is going to affect his vote total, but it is going to affect his turn out. >> i don't think we should be concerned about this as a political matter because this is such a critical issue relative to america's national security and the security of the middle east. i would hold the president make decisions about what to do in gaza or the middle east based upon how the votes line. >> harris: that was just an incredible thing to say. the president of the united states right now as the incumbent, no one pressing against him with more than about 16-17 points is winning overwhelmingly. well, of course he is. except for uncommitted is a problem. gianno caldwell, fox news
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political analyst, and leslie marshall, fox news contributor. you may pop up, but i know you are having technical difficulties with your studio where you are. but we will have your voice, so welcome to both of you. president biden is winning the primaries like never before, gianno. >> yes, but this uncommitted issue i think is going to be a very big issue for him. not just in terms of optics, but certainly in november. i think when we are considering these issues, we just heard with the president said, he would hope that joe biden would make decisions based on those votes, that he already started. he already started walking back things he said about israel and said, we need to have a cease fire, i'm going to press them to do that. he has been making policy decisions based on the expectations of some of the voters on the left that do not want to see israel fight back, which is their right. >> harris: leslie, first of all, i want your topline thoughts on that, and then i want to show you what's happening for other democrats.
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this is moving down-ticket. let's look at that first. this is moving down-ticket. this is what dems are facing. >> certainly. i wouldn't say you can completely discount it. nikki haley may be a problem for the right, uncommitted make a problem for the left. especially in a state like michigan was one of the five states that it comes down to if it is going to be, and it looks like it is going to be a rematch between joe biden and donald trump, because the country is so divided and the numbers are just so close coming up for this general election. however, and i've said this before, but i think i have said it here and other programs, the muslim community, which i certainly sympathize with their feelings regarding what is happening with israel and the palestinians in gaza, and my husband is muslim, and uncommitted vote is a vote if you are on the right provide an end if you are on the left for donald trump.
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a biden administration is going to do more in line with what these communities, the muslim community specifically, are seeking, which -- >> harris: apparently they don't agree with you. they are having a different experience than what you're talking about. quickly, let me get to this. jill biden, anti-israel protesters are targeting more democrats starting with first lady jill biden during a campaign stop in arizona on saturday. let's watch. >> sign up for phone banks and canvassing shifts. we are going to meet to this moment. >> you and your husband support the genocide of the palestinian people! >> harris: i showed you a bit of this. i said there is more of it with new york congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez, and what she was dealing with, demonstrators at a brooklyn movie theater yesterday. unlike the first lady, ocasio-cortez had some strong
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words for protesters, meaning curse words. >> you refused to call it a genocide. >> i need you to understand that this is not okay. >> it's not okay that you are actively against it. >> do you have any comments? >> you're going to cut this and you are going to click this so that it is completely out of context. i already said that it was, and you're just going to pretend it wasn't, over and over again. it is bleeped up, man you are not helping them. >> harris: leslie? >> the only administration out of the two we are looking at that is going to utter the words "two-state solution," or dropping aid in getting aid and medical supplies and, were cease-fire, whether it be temporary like the vice president was asking for for six weeks or permanent, that is coming from the current administration. that is not what we are hearing from the opposition, the trump administration. again, i understand we have a
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lovely country and a wonderful constitutional first amendment right to protest, but you want to protest toward a goal to get what you want. again, and uncommitted vote is a vote for donald trump, and that will not get to the goal that the muslim community, with regard to gaza and the palestinian's. >> harris: i think it's her point more than a vote for donald trump. that's not the case, that it really is them protesting. but when you say the president we have now is the only one who would be dropping aid, i believe you when you say you feel that way, but you've got to prove that one. we helped a whole lot of people, even in wars that we were in. gianno? >> i think this is something democrats think could potentially just go away, and it certainly is not. when we look at "the new york times" pulling back and no in october of 2020, last monthit continues to go down.
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if we moved just beyond this protest vote, if you will, we've got to look at the migrant crisis in places like chicago and new york and other places which has the ability to potentially flip more votes in favor of donald trump. if you were watching fox and friends this morning, he saw a guy by the name of joe collins running for congress out of texas saying, hey, we are going to support him. as a black man, we will support donald trump because he stands with us. and this is going to shape this race and i don't even think we have the parameters to really show what this is going to look like to his maximum capacity in november. it's bad for the democrats, it is bad for joe biden, but it's very good for donald trump or its view on both of you, gianno and leslie, thank you. next time we will see her face. we will fix your studio. thank you both. a huge super tuesday delegate prize at stake today. in texas, with poll after poll there and elsewhere, we are now seeing, as i just mentioned, because gallup has the latest,
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>> harris: so how bad is it for people living in our nation's capital? they are about to do something potentially you wouldn't have seen coming. we are now awaiting word on a criminal vote, the washington, d.c., city council with a conference of public safety bill before it. it would toughen penalties on offenders and give police more authority to do their jobs. that is exactly the opposite thing they did three years ago when the d.c. city council defunded police.
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and then it devolved into this hellish mess. overall, violent crime has gone up exponentially, homicides at the highest rate in 20 years, yet cannot defund the police. alex hoff has the latest. >> the counsel is expected to vote sometime this afternoon. looks like they are having a bit of a delay this morning, par for the course perhaps in a city like d.c. last month this bill passed the first required round unanimously, and it is quite a 180 from 2021 when the district's progressive council voted to cut police funding by millions. the secure d.c. amendment act now seeks to increase penalties for things like gun crimes, retail theft, it expands pretrial detention and cracks down on open air drug markets. the bill also stiffens penalties for violent youth offenders, something these cities the positivist democratic mayors say need to happen >> i want to make something
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clear. we don't want to lock up our kids, but we might have to if they are using guns. all right? it's that simple. [applause] because not only are they using guns, they are victims of guns. >> the mayor says she hears from concerned residents daily. last night violent crime as a whole rose 39% with young people being found increasingly responsible for attacks. just last week, d.c. police arrested and charged a 15-year-old in the death of an afghan interpreter who had fled his country during the chaotic withdrawal from afghanistan led by the u.s. he was working as a rideshare driver at the time he was killed. >> he was working extremely hard to support his family. he had just dropped off a passenger and was sitting in his vehicle when he was approached by several young suspects. it appears to our investigation that the suspect may have been trying to take his vehicle. >> this is something mind-blowing to me as somebody
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who has lived in this city. among those arrested for carjackings in d.c., the most common aid for those found responsible last year was 15 years old. we are awaiting the start of his hearing today. we expect the passage of this crime bill. harris, we will keep you posted. >> harris: i appreciate so much that personal note. it is tough. that's like children running around. all right, and they are deadly, potentially. thank you. critics are ramping up their attacks on president biden over his border crisis. after the former border patrol chief made these stunning remarks on "60 minutes." >> i have never had one conversation with the president or the vice president, for that matter, and so i was chief of the border patrol. i commanded 21,000 people. that's a problem. >> harris: oh, boy. that struck a nerve. national security to mediation's advisor john kirby then responded this way.
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>> the president engaged with dhs and leadership. >> but why not border patrol? he never met with the former or current chief. he's been president for three years. as met in the other day. >> i don't have the president's daily calendar with me. the idea that he somehow disengage from the border patrol flies in the face of the facts. >> harris: he's willing to go on national television and say it never happened, but he didn't have proof that it did? hmm. a new op-ed argues, if biden is serious about stopping the crisis at the border come he might want to start by calling border patrol, but instead he's blaming republicans in congress for refusing to go on with his half-hearted attempt to pass legislation on the topic. john duffy, former wisconsin congressmen and cohost of "the bottom line" on fox business. great to see you today. this is so disingenuous. i mean, all of it.
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john kirby is trying to argue that the president was talking with, in contact with a man who says they never met, and they also didn't meet the border czar, kamala harris. >> by the way, i watch the interview lives, and i felt for john kirby trying to defend the questions off of martha there, because there's no good answer. >> harris: well, the truth. but he didn't grab for that. >> because the truth hurts. he had to defend his boss, the president, who hasn't met with border patrol. he met with border patrol when he went to brownsville, texas, where the crisis is not happening at the border, but that's not enough, harris. because it is the number one issue americans care about, you meet with the border patrol and try to strategize on what tools you have to fix the border, but if your policy is to have an orphan to open border and get as many people into the country as possible, you want to sideline the border patrol and make sure that you open the borders and get as many people
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in as possible. >> harris: it is awful to think the president wasn't talking to the head of the border patrol. that person. just like, for three days, he lost touch with his secretary of defense, who didn't tell anybody he was having a personal hospitalization. a secret one. i mean, these are people the president, with our national security in mind, should be talking to every day. i've got to get to vice president kamala harris and i want to hear your comments. she made some pointed remarks over the weekend calling for an immediate 6-week cease-fire in gaza. and then yesterday said this. >> the president and i have been very clear that israel has the right to defend itself, that we have got to make sure that its civilians aren't being killed, and that we have got to get these hostages out. that is one of the highest priorities right now that we have. i will tell you, the president has been an extra ordinary leader and getting it to this point that we have this deal. >> harris: so hamas needs to do what it does.
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>> you know, harris, you have to look at this through the prism of american politics. in michigan, 100,000 democrat voters voted uncommitted. you have the youth vote across this country who are reliable democratic voters who are in opposition to this administration's position with israel, and because they are hemorrhaging all of these voters, they are trying to actually patch up their voter base. and in michigan it's not just 100,000 people who are opposed to the israeli policy, you have blue-collar workers who are angry about the ev policies hurting their jobs in michigan. >> harris: that's true. >> you put that altogether, they have true problems on their hands. again, i don't think you can put this together. i think good policy makes good politics but they are trying to reverse it and make a good politics be good politics. >> harris: to hear the vice president say hamas needs to do its thing when they have been so specific about what israel can and cannot do is just mind-boggling. sean, thank you. "outnumbered" is after the break.
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