budget requests 9.8 billion to deliver a mix of hypersonic and long range subson anything mess sills. this year's pentagon budget request is only a 1% increase from last year's as china's military is boosting its budget by 7.2%. martha? >> does not get enough attention. thanks, jennifer, from the pentagon. jennifer griffin. so that's "the story" for this tuesday, march 12. but as always, the "the story" goes on. we look forward to seeing you back here tomorrow at 2:00. looks like both candidates, president biden and former president trump will meet the marker to be their nominee. we'll see you tomorrow at 3:00. have a good evening. >> i did not share classified

information. i guarantee i did not. that's not true, is it, mr. hur? >> that is inconsistent with the findings based on the evidence in my report. >> it's a lie. >> you exonerated him. >> i did not exonerate him. that word does not appear in the report. >> mr. hur, it's my time. >> all i have to do when i'm caught taking home classified vehicles but i'm sorry. i'm getting old and my memory is not so great. this is the doctrine that you established in our laws now and it's frightening. >> you cannot tell me your so naive to think that your words would not have created a political firestorm. >> what your suggesting is that i shaped, sanitize, omit portions of my reasons for political reasons. >> i suggest you not shape your report for political reasons, which is what you did. >> that did not happen. >> neil: so it wentz for almost six hours talking past each other.

robert hur caught up in the food fight, right in the middle of a food fight. that wouldn't stop and didn't stop. why robert f. kennedy jr. says there's got to be a better way, another way. maybe an independent way. r.f.k. jr. says he is that way. he is here. welcome, everybody. i'm neil cavuto. let's get to it. it was going to be controversial and it was going to be in your face. probably what robert hur wasn't counting on is that he would be getting broad side attacks in his face from both parties oftentimes. david spunts on capitol hill with the fallout. david? >> hi, neil. republicans welcomed robert hur to capitol hill. some were upset that he chose not to charge president biden. democrats disparaged the former special counsel that just left his post at the justice department after completing this. the most important thing is to hear from him and this is why he says he did not charge the president with the any criminal

violations. >> we identified evidence that the president willfully retained classified materials after the end of his vice presidency when he was a private citizen. we did not, however, identify evidence that rose to the level of proof beyond a reasonable doubt. >> neil, the 345 paged report contains picture after picture of classified documents kept in torn, in brown boxes in his delaware garage and private offices. sensitive documents related to afghanistan and his time as vice president part of the larger pile. republicans argue that president biden took the documents while president biden was writing his book. >> pride and money is why he knowingly violated the rules, the oldest motives in the book, pride and money. you agree with that, mr. hur? you wrote it in your report. >> that language does appear in the record. we did identify evidence

supporting those assessments. >> democrats repeatedly brought up someone not in the room or even a subject of this report. that is the former president, donald trump. watch. >> you're doing everything you can do to get president trump reelected so that you can get appointed as a federal judge or perhaps to another position in the department of justice. isn't that correct? >> congressman, i have no such aspirations, and i can tell you that partisan politics had no place whatsoever in my work. it had no place in the investigative steps that i took. >> on the president's memory, democrats criticized hur for bringing up the president's memory. hur said he had to in explaining why he declined to charge biden. merrick garland did not push back saying the entire report was not out of bounds in any way. this really turned in to a proxy

fight between team biden and team trump gearing up for the election in november. a lot of conversations about donald trump as well in this room, neil. >> neil: you never know it was an election year, would you? david spunt following that. john yoo with us, the former assistants deputy attorney general. john, you know, when you get it from both sides, it's a sign that maybe you're resonating with both sides or not. the fact of the matter is, what hur is making clear here is look, i had enough i think to go on here, but bottom line, i stand by my comments that the president of the united states was an old guy and he was showing his age and that a jury would be sympathetic. that was the reason this didn't go further. democrats seized on that and thought it was gratuitous. did you? >> no, i didn't. i thought what you saw in today's hearing was a by-the-book straight arrow

prosecutor. he reminded me of the career prosecutors that do the work of the department every day that i met when i worked with the justice department. i think what hur did repeatedly and why nobody was happy with him is that he explained how a normal prosecutor would have approached this case. i think what you saw is hur basically saying biden did violate the law. he did keep classified information. he wasn't supposed to have it. and i think one thing that was something of a revelation that the special counsel relied on these tapes where biden is taking to his ghostwriter saying i was downstairs and i found the classified documents. that's a concession by the president that he had classified documents. the reason why you focus on this, neil, the reason why hur said he couldn't prosecute is because one justice department policy is you can't prosecute a sitting president and two, because of president biden's

reduced memory, because he's a well-meaning old man, he didn't think a jury would find that he had the mental state, the mental state to violate the law. >> neil: if he wasn't an old man and some of these issues have come up, not only here but elsewhere as you know, john, would he and should he have prosecuted? >> that's an interesting question that hur did his best not to answer. >> of course, many times. i'm glad he's not prosecuting me for keeping classified information. i don't have that defense. i think that reading between the lines, i think he -- would have been hard for him to say given the evidence that he had there that he would not bring a case if he was dealing with someone who was at the height of their career, had a sharp memory, had all of their papers in front of him. which is why for much of the

hearing, the democrats spent their time talking about why donald trump should be prosecuted and left hur alone on these points. >> neil: you can also say republicans felt there was a split justice here. other vice presidents have gotten away with this in the past. they argue that in the end, so did joe biden. but not donald trump. he sticks out like a sore thumb. what did you make of their argument, the ones that waged that argument? >> someone is like scoring points like the russian judge or the east german judge back in the the old days figure skating. i think the republicans missed a big chance here. a lot of the criticism of hur was why didn't you prosecute trump? i'm sorry. biden. that's another hearing. why didn't you prosecute biden? i don't think that's what they wanted to press. hur as he said, justice department policy is you can't prosecute a sitting president. he said that the reason he gave was that president biden's

mental state wasn't strong enough. that's actually gold for republicans. if i had been on the republican side of the hearing, what i would have pressed more, we did you decide president biden's mental state is not that strong? why did you think he couldn't stand up to a trial? compare him to somebody else that you ever prosecuted. you also drop the charges because you thought mental state wasn't very strong. that is i think what most americans want to know. what they drew from the report is the discussion of president biden's failed memory. questions about whether he's incompetent to the job of being president. put aside whether he should be prosecuted. >> neil: he left a lot of doubts there. thanks, john. jacqui heinrich is at the white house. he's had a busy day meeting with the polish leaders. did he have time to watch any of this? >> we're told, neil, that the president was monitoring the

hearing on capitol hill. we're expecting to hear from a spokesman from the white house's counsel office for their conclusions here. officials here wanted robert hur's testimony to re-affirm his conclusions that conversely with former president trump biden's handling of classified documents did not warrant a charging decision. moreover, they wanted to show that hur's commentary about biden's age was overwrought. at the end of the day, they found themselves arguing against hur's testimony from the hill today that in fact he never exonerated president biden. listen. >> did you reach a conclusion that this man was outright innocent? >> that conclusion is not reflected in my report. >> the white house counsel's office tweeted in america you're innocent until proven guilty. the case is closed here. in other words, the president

was cleared. in that tweet, they included a screen shot of the dictionary definition of the word exonerated. these live fact checks have been going on all day. the white house released biden's transcript to several media outlets to counter hur's decision of biden's memory. "washington post," biden does not come out as absent minds as hur said he was. special counsel hur defended his descriptions of biden's memory of willful intent. he had to get at the president's state of mind. we expect to hear more detail from a spokesman here shortly, neil. >> neil: thanks, jacqui. this is what robert f. kennedy jr. talk about when he days about disarray. he's been a critic of joe biden

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>> neil: all right. you heard him. you witnessed it. it was bedlam for a while. almost six hours of testimony from the special counsel, robert

hur on why he opted to take the route he did and not prosecuting president biden. but making note of his age and the fact that a jury would find that sympathetic. robert f. kennedy jr. witnessing a good deal of this. he gets back to the notion of an independent candidate of president of the united states that this is part of the problem. these guys, the two candidates, a repeat of the last race are the problem. robert, good to see you. >> good to see you again, neil. thanks for having me back. >> neil: thanks. let me ask you what you thought of the back and forth on robert hur and his issue that he didn't take prosecutorial issue with the president because of his age, because of his memory problems, significant memory problems? what did you think of that? >> well, you know, i haven't read the transcripts. >> but the issues that he pointed out that president biden

couldn't remember specific things that you would think he would remember, when he was vice president under the dates when was vice president under president obama, the date of his son's death and a number of other things are worrying. i think that it's important for president biden to do what he did the other night, which is come out in public and more importantly to have unscripted debates, unscripted encounters with voters to engage in the debate, which americans expect from the presidential candidate. this is a job that requires a lot of nuance of complexity of mind, of mental acutie. we have a right to assurances that the person in charge of taking that phone call at 3:00

in the morning when all of our children's lives are at stake that they're going to make good judgments. the best decisions. that they're going to be on their toes. i think it's important for him to persuade the american public, to show the american public he can do that particularly after these kinds of questions that have beneficially raised. not only by the prosecutor but the mainstream media that is now talking about these issues >> neil: whether he's too old. you like the president. you said he brought his a game to the state of the union. you said it was a hyper partisan speech. your not a huge fan of donald trump either. it looks like those two guys are not keen on debating each other. might happen. but it doesn't look like it will. what do you think of that? >> well, i think we're living in

a time when the two least popular mainstream or mainstream party candidates in the history of our country are running and would win the prize for the least popular candidate in the history of a major political party. 80% of the public says that they don't want a rematch of 2016. they want other choices. you know, now it's a three-man race as of today. both candidates will clinch their party's nomination in the three primaries that are being held told and we'll be entering the general election. i would hope that both of these candidates will debate and we should start talking about the issues that concern americans, the chronic disease epidemic, the destruction of our soils, the forever wars -- >> neil: we do have to get on that debate. you have to get in on the debate as an independent candidate.

you gotten on a few more states. very close to georgia, utah, nevada, south carolina, alabama. you need to get on a lot more state ballots. there's talk that you'll become a libertarian. any truth to that? that could get you on pretty much all of the states. >> yeah, we will be on all of the state ballots. we have now launched -- we're launching a push to get us on all the ballots that are open today at this point within four to six weeks. action they open, we will have four to six weeks to get on each one and we will make those deadlines. >> neil: when you say you make those deadlines, you'd be more than a spoiler? you have a real crack at it and more than just getting a spoiler role. the traditional wisdom is, you hurt president biden more than

you hurt donald trump. what do you say? >> i mean, my intention is to hurt both of them. i'm getting -- right now i'm beating both candidates and independent voters. independent is the -- this is the first net election in the history where independents are the biggest voting block. so independents represent 43% of american voters. republicans are only 27. democrats are only 27. i'm beating both candidates and independents. i'm beating them in really dramatic margins by 40% among americans under 35 in the battleground states. i'm beating them among americans under 45. those are -- i'm in a 3-way tie for hispanic votes that vote is increasing for me.

i'm winning in all of the major demographics with the one exception, baby boomers. we believe we'll make inroads with them soon. so i really -- i think we have a very good chance of winning in november. >> neil: that might be so. i haven't seen these shows that show you competitive in that regard. that could change. the more awareness you get. you've raised significant awareness, more than peel like jill stein and cornell west making their own third party runs. i'm curious when you talked about the president's state of the union. you had a different vision for how you would see the state of the union. a compelling reason to find an alternative to the same old same old. what did you mean by that? >> we published a simultaneous address. my own vision of what the state of the union is. we're talking about the issues that the major political candidates are not talking about. the fact that we have a $34

trillion debt. the last 100 days, the debt has gone up by another trillion dollar. it's unsustainable. we're already spending the equivalent of our entire event budget just on servicing the debt, paying the interest. within five years, every half of every tax dollar collected will go towards servicing the debt. within ten years, it could be every tax dollars collected. nobody is talking about this. nobody is talking about the chronic disease epidemic. when my uncle was president, 6 person of americans had chronic disease. today 6% do. we have the sickest generation in the history of the world. nobody is talking about it. we're paying more for treating diabetes than our entire defense budget. when i was a kid, a typical pediatrician would see one

diabetes case in their entire career. today one out of every three kids that walk into their office is diabetic or prediabetic. no political candidate is talking about these things. nobody is talking ant how we can get our kids in houses. none of them can afford a house. >> neil: you raise a lot of very valid points. that does generate interest and a lot of attention to you. you mentioned your uncle. you referred to john f. kennedy. your dad was cut down in the middle of running for president. what do you think your dad would say of you and your uncle jack would say of you running away from the party that for which they were iconic symbols? >> yeah, i mean my father and uncle -- my father specifically said on many occasions including directly to me, i don't vote for the candidate. i don't vote for the party. i vote for the individual. they understood the dangers that

george washington warned about, partisan politics. self-interests would replace and displace patriotism and patriotic impulses. >> neil: do you think your dad ever knew that you would be leaving the democratic party? you're an iconic family. >> i don't think my father would care about that -- party loyalty was irrelevant to him. >> that's not what your family members say. >> if you went down the issues that my father believed in, he felt strongly about -- i would check every box. so i feel like i am representing the values of the democratic party and maybe the party has slipped away from its traditional values. >> neil: you mentioned joe

biden. donald trump thought it would be a good idea to pardon the january 6th rioters if elected. what do you think of that? >> i would not comment on that. that's not something that i would comment on until i was president of the united states. >> neil: would you do something like that? would you ever consider something like that? >> i would pardon people -- i intend to use the pardon power quickly. i'll parton julian assange, edward snowden. i may pardon ross ulrich if i find his prosecution was -- that his sentence was the result of making an example of him or to punish bitcoin and cryptocurrencies. >> neil: you wouldn't extend that to those that rioted on january 6 and were in prison?

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much in this era of politics? >> [inaudible]. >> neil: all right. that is congressman ken buck from the state of pennsylvania announcing that he will be leaving congress. it's not a matter that he's not running for re-election but leaving next friday. he was asked about him being one of the three republicans that did not want to impeach mayorkas. that surprised some people. he did say mayorkas wasn't doing a good job but he thought that was overkill. he didn't get along with donald trump and didn't like the trumpization of the party as well. bottom line, he's leaving. gerry baker of the "wall street journal," what he makes of this. what do you think, gerry? >> i mean, i think -- two

things. one, it makes life more complicated for speaker johnson and the wafer thin republican majority. just two emphasizes the complete trump party, the trump takeover of the republican party. we've seen it with the rnc. the very last remaining of trump, the last remaining republicans bowing out because they see the handwriting on the wall. >> neil: i'm wonders, too, he's from colorado. i it is a pennsylvania. let's ask about the makeup of the house right now. they can't afford to lose anyone. down to two or three vote margin when it comes to crucial pieces of legislation. i'm sure the speakers and others want to get there. it's going to be dicey through the end of the year. >> look, i mean the possibility of speaker hakeem jefferys sometime between now and january 3 next year is rising rapidly. there they be more. some -- the handful of republicans that are holdouts

against trump that really don't have any time for him may decide to do exactly what ken buck has done and said i'm getting out first. i get a lot of attention and i can do something quicker than waiting for the axe to fall. as you said, we're down to two or three. if we have any more shenanigans over government shutdowns or debt limits, all of this stuff, you could see johnson's position being vulnerable. we're at the point where jeffries -- another couple of republican defections or resignations like that or republican gets sick or god forbid is unable to perform his or her duties, jeffries could squeak a speaker vote. >> neil: you're right. the math is so close it's possible. i wanted your take on something robert f. kennedy jr. mentioned. criticizing joe biden and the fact that he might not be up to

the job and his age is showing. similarly showing baggage that trump bring with him. there's another way. there's talk that he could be a libertarian candidate. bottom line, still a force to reckon with, or is he? what do you think? >> i listened to your interview. it was fascinating. whatever else anyone can say about kennedy, he's a fascinating person to listen to. you tonight have to agree with what he says. he has a different takes on politics. i think three things about kennedy. one he still has a certain name recognition. he doesn't have the glamour of his uncle or father but still has the patina of magic about his name. two, he's an extremist. you heard him say, neil, he

would pardon edward snowden and julian assange. they handed secrets over to the russians. so this is extreme stuff. he's extreme on environmental issues and vax and all that stuff. but he's scoring 10, 12, 15% in the polls. if you take that together, he's right in a sense that it does show the degree of d dissatisfaction with the two main candidates. someone like kennedy and the track record, if he can do that well, what does it say about maybe an alternative third-party candidate who might be more powerful and more mainstream and might draw more votes. >> neil: you never say never until you can never say anything again. gerry baker, good seeing you. the president did have time finally to meet with the teamster's general president. sean o'brien. he already met with donald trump. he's very close to deciding

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>> neil: president biden has been a lot in the news today. he was meeting with polish leaders at the white house. one meeting he wanted to make, a one-on-one with sean o'brien, the teamster's general president. sean, good to have you back. >> how are you, sir? >> neil: very well. did the meeting take place? >> yes, it did. it wasn't a one-on-one. it was before our board and rank and file committee. >> neil: how did it go? >> it went well. went just like every other meeting went. president biden is very strong on a lot of our issues. all the other candidates, they all support unions supposedly.

president biden has proven he's done a lot of hard work on behalf of unions. no decision has been made. it won't be made in the near future. we still have a lot of due diligence to do. our members, 1.3, they will be included in the process. we have polling going on right now and having town halls in every local union to ensure this decision we make is in the best interests of our members and their families. >> neil: doesn't sound like it's coming soon. what is the hold up? your counter part made his mind up. it's joe biden, no debate. >> we run our unions differently. i'm ant transparency. i'm not sure what their process was. >> neil: i don't believe he met with donald trump at all. >> yeah, that's on him. i don't think he met with any other candidates either. the reality is, we have a lot of decisions to make. we want our members included.

just like we did with the ups campaign where we did a lot of one-on-ones, we were successful because we knew that they wanted. we dealt with anheuser busch where we secured for those that produce american beer and drink american beer. we have a good result as a result. we're about meeting with folks and coming to make good decisions on behalf of our members. >> neil: who did your board seem impressed with more? the president or the former president? >> i think our board was impressed with all the candidates. we have never done this process before as a union. there was some strong candidates. you remember previous guest, robert kennedy, did real well. so you know, it's all over the map. we'll have a discussion next week. >> neil: so is he in the mix? >> everybody is in the mix. we're doing polling nationwide currently. at the end of the day, historically we haven't endorsed

until after the respective conventions. so look, this is a tough decision. this is the biggest decision we'll make in years to come. we have to make sure we get it right. >> neil: the natural assumption is that the leadership will go for joe biden. hasn't always been that way. you reminded me of how the vote pulled for people like ronald reagan. by and large, it's a democratic candidate you go to. is that safe? >> yeah, that's been the plan over the several decades prior. but we have a different membership now. we have a different society. we have different issues. and you know, look. we've been reaching a cross the aisle with senators, just to try to focus on the issues that affect us. most recently we've been working with senator josh hawley who

last weekend walked a picket line in st. louis. we had a big strike going on out there his presence and his support. we settled the strike earlier this week. we're focusing on people that will support our issues. look, like i said before, everybody has a track record. you know, what we have achieved in the past doesn't mean that those are the goals in the future. so those are the decisions we'll make and focus on. >> neil: you heard the back and forth and the five or six hour hearing on capitol hill featuring robert hur, the special counsel who said that president biden has significant memory problems. bottom line, he's an old guy and he's showing it. do you agree with that and do you think that could affect ultimately whether you support him or someone else? >> look, i'm 52. i'm slowing down. but president biden, he answered the questions, he answered them thoroughly. he was well-prepped.

it's like anything else. people can focus on the negative. i'm not going to do that. i'm not going to attack anybody personally. >> neil: you don't think he's old or febrile? nothing you see that he's losing his fastball? >> he grabbed my hand and pulled me tight. he's trying to squeeze the endorsements out. >> neil: that didn't work today. you think a decision after the conventions? >> yes, that will happen. >> neil: thanks, sean: >> thank you. >> neil: when we come back, the trouble at the border. i'm talking the terror trouble at the border. don't say a certain congressman crenshaw didn't warn you. confirmation of that today all the way up to the fbi. (vo) sail through the heart of historic cities and unforgettable scenery with viking. unpack once, and get closer to iconic landmarks, local life, and cultural treasures. because when you experience europe on a viking longship,

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>> what the costs and benefits of designating cartels as a foreign terrorist organization? >> it would give us enhanced abilities to go after their money that we don't have. >> who should be in charge of the whole of government strategy to battle mexican cartels? is this law enforcement or national security apparatus? >> i needs to be a whole of government strategy. >> neil: all right. give credit where it's due. dan crenshaw was on this and

concerned about what happened hat the border. he will be joining us in a second. gatrrett tenney first on what i at stake. >> intelligence officials said the flood of folks coming across is increasing the risk of a terrorist attack. christopher wray says that over the last few years, there's a drastic number of known or suspected terrorists coming through. those are the ones that we know about. more than that, the 1.8 million got-aways that have come across the last three years that we know nothing about. even with those, who are caught entering the country illegally though, ray says it's really tough to know with any kind of certainty who these people are before they're released. >> the bigger concern though, the bigger concern, is a situation, for example, where

somebody presents a fake identification documents at the border and there's not biometrics to match up so there's no way to be able to know that they're not who they say they are. then they get in the country. >> you can see in this video a group that almost got away. this is in kenny county. seven people made a break. the whole group from mexico, ages ranging from 25 to 35 years old. the kenny county sheriff said ever since the wires wentz up along the river, they're seeing more of these kinds of smuggling incidents out there in kenny county. neil? >> thanks. dan crenshaw has something to say. what are we waiting for? he's next.

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and better. downy. breathe life into your laundry. ♪ ♪ >> neil: nefarious elements at the border, and a good many of them may be already here. congressman dan crenshaw, texas republican, joining us. you have been warned about this as long as i can remember and now it appears all out of control, and top officials, and putting the fbi director you were dealing with today, kind of confirmed it. what do we do? >> they did confirm it. what do we do? we stop the incentive structures that make hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants come to our border and then pay the mexican drug cartels in order to do so. that's what we do. we change the laws that we

change their incentives. and we recognize what's really happening. you know, we are from our democratic colleagues sometimes that, well, you know, the fentanyl, it is not coming between points of entry, it is coming to the ports of entry. i always have to remind them, that is because that is where we have a lot of people actually watching and inspecting. there is between 1,002,000 got-aways every single day. we don't know what they have, they're trying to get away from border patrol and not turning themselves in so there is a massive security problem. 170 people on the terrorist watch list. we don't have a good idea what happened to them after they have been encountered. about the problem that we brought up today in the hearing. we have a large, very formidable, very well armed, very well-funded force south of our border. the mexican drug cartels. baked killed tens of thousands of americans a year and have potential to topple the mexican government. that is a real problem we have

to address. >> neil: you also wonder their influence on the mexican government already. that is a lot of money there. i am curious about what happens now. one of the things i was hearing from a lot of these intelligence officials as there might be elaborate networks here, working with those who have made it into this country, to plot god knows what. what do you think? >> yeah, look, the trafficking networks, you can look at them like supply chains. the cartels take their part, they take their pay. they establish mechanisms for immigrants to go into the u.s. maybe those immigrants were traffic to labor or sex trafficking or whatever it may be. but they absolutely collude with local gangs, local criminal elements, local financiers, it happens everywhere because there's plenty of money to be made. >> neil: so let me get your take on some developments today, congressman, concerning, you know, what some interpret to be a bit of a browbeating for the special counsel robert hur. from both sides.

disappointment among your republican colleagues that he didn't prosecute the president, even though legally that might have been tough. anger on the part of democrats that he went out of his way to criticize the president, calling him a doddering old fool that he didn't call him back, just significant memory problems, i believe, with the wording. what do you think of the back-and-forth? whether anything came of any of this? >> i'm not sure anything came of it and i wasn't following it as closely, so, i mean, i have been in the scif all day doing intel briefings so i'm not sure i have a lot for you on that. >> neil: i admire that. let me get your sense on something robert f. kennedy jr. was mentioning earlier, as a third way, an alternative way to the established parties on the way they do business beer they talk past each other, that the appetite is to avoid a repeat of the last election and seek out alternatives. i know you are a republican and all of that but what do you make of what he is saying? that that is something that americans share, a sense of frustration with another race

like the last race. >> sure, i get that. i ask americans a civil question: did you go vote in your primary? because if you didn't that i don't know what you are complaining about. our primary elections have extremely low turnout. if you don't like your choices come in means maybe you should encourage you and your friends to vote in primaries. i'm also not as may be pessimistic as he is at the state of american politics. the entire point of politics is for people to disagree, and to disagree peacefully. we will never all think the same -- and that's okay. that's the entire point. that is why we have a system the way we have it. >> neil: congressman, very good talking to you again. thank you very much. congressman crenshaw on all of that, again, the dow up today, the markets again, sensing the good economic times are at least better, continue, we shall see. here is "the five." ♪ ♪